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bouncybouncyweee
11-08-2003, 01:36 PM
I wanna hear the leaders opinions on this:

I have about three feet worth of hair, down to my butt. how much do you leaders hate long hair? And would you rather I had it up in a pony tail to whack you in the face,(but you can reach my back), or have it all down so it won't hurt you (but reaching my back is a problem), or have it in this enormous bun that impedes some moves especially in salsla such as a duck?

youngsta
11-08-2003, 01:58 PM
That's a tough question. I used to dance fairly often with a woman who's hair was down to her but. When you do it often avoiding the ponytail is no problem. If you don't dance with women with long hair often...OWW...OWW...OWW!! :lol:

Sagitta
11-08-2003, 02:19 PM
When you do it often avoiding the ponytail is no problem. If you don't dance with women with long hair often...OWW...OWW...OWW

Right on youngsta.

Used to be a big deal for me. I was petrified of engaging the OWW factor! Now however, it's not so bad as I am getting used to the long hair.

If you don't want to risk pain the bun or tight ponytail is the safest option for you. [/quote]

salsachinita
11-09-2003, 01:36 AM
Hey guys! I'd have to confess that I belong to the long hair clan as well :wink:
In the past I had received nothing but compliments on my hair (down to my butt right now) but recently a couple of guys (kinda newbies) have told me that they are not sure what to do with my hair :shock: in the way.
As Bouncy, I had tried both the ponytail (hit the guys in the face) and the bun (comes undone as soon as I do one of those over-head moves) :roll:
Guess I am due for a hair cut.....!
On the other hand, some guy at a club BEGGED me to whip him with my hair :shock: :lol: just the other day!
But seriously, would you guys stop dancing with a girl because of long hair? Or you would just avoid a few moves?

MadamSamba
11-09-2003, 03:28 AM
I know one guy who makes a beeline for girls with long hair, the longer the better. He grabs them for salsa in particular and loves doing dips, particularly those ones from one hib to the other, just to watch their hair sweep across the floor. I don't see it myself, but different strokes for different folks, eh. :)

It must be a boy thing.

salsachinita
11-09-2003, 03:53 AM
Oooooh :P I LOVE having that done to me.....!
I love dips especially when the leader is smooth..... and when I come up, my hair flip forward & covers the guy briefly before I flick it back...! :wink:

Swing Kitten
11-09-2003, 04:06 AM
french braids? or low braids? that way you'd just smack him in the chest istead of his face perhaps.


ooh ooooh ooooh Princess Leah buns!!!!

Sagitta
11-10-2003, 01:13 AM
I wouldn't stop dancing with a person because of their long hair. [Bad breath, a nasty attitude...these are turn offs, but long hair, tall, fat, skinny, white, black, pregnant, young, old...no way!!!]

Would I only do what I feel I am comfortable with? Yesss!!! If it means fewer moves now, it is a fewer moves. I can live with that, but can you?

bouncybouncyweee
11-10-2003, 03:34 AM
I s'pose I'll live just dandy with fewer moves! I couldn't cut my hair. I'm like samson, except my hair is my personality, not my strength.

SDsalsaguy
11-10-2003, 12:18 PM
My personal preference is ponytail... I've become used to blinking and/or turning my head in accordance with what move I'm leading... and it only looks silly when I keep doing it with short haired partners. :lol:

jon
11-10-2003, 11:47 PM
Some years ago I danced country two-step with a woman was was just about my height in her dance shoes. Two-step typically involves lots of spins. Combine that with shoulder-length hair and I found myself suffering the weed-whacker effect. Fortunately few women are that tall :-)

Pacion
06-28-2004, 06:30 PM
Any other tips/suggestions on what to do with one's hair? Has anyone (guys can answer this too :wink: :lol: ) ever worn wigs/hair pieces? How did they, or more importantly, you :wink: survive the experience :D

pygmalion
06-28-2004, 06:34 PM
LOL! The first time I wore a hair piece, I had a major up-do. (Does everybody know what that means? My hair was pinned up in an elaborate style.) Anyway, right in the middle of my exhibition routine, my teacher, who was only about an inch taller than I, bopped me, right in the middle of my hairpiece, and down it came! :shock: :lol: :lol: Fortunately for me, I'd had enough performance experience that I knew things go wrong, so I just kept dancing. what a laugh!!!! ( At least the hair stayed attached. It was hanging way down my back, LOL, but it didn't fall off! :lol: :lol:

Laura
06-28-2004, 06:35 PM
One thing you can do with long hair is braid it and then pin the braid to your dress somewhere. Competitive Latin dancers were doing this for a while, not sure if it's still in fashion or not.

dancin_feet
06-28-2004, 06:52 PM
I suppose it depends on the type of dancer you are whether it causes a problem or not. A friend of mine has hair down to her butt, but it isn't a problem because she doesn't spot when she turns to create the whip action with her hair.

I on the other hand got mine cut to shoulder length because I felt really guilty about hitting my instructor all the time! :oops:

Jmatthew
06-28-2004, 07:50 PM
My girlfriend's hair is intensely long, which is really great for me, I dig on it, but it drives her nuts. She's got the whole bun-making thing down to a routine that barely takes a moment, but it still annoys her having to rebuild it after almost every dance.

Sakura
06-28-2004, 07:54 PM
Yay, long hair! I've got hair down to the bottom of the small of my back, and I have plans to grow it further! (If I can that is... I really want a braid that hangs below my butt; but I'm not sure if my genetics will let me grow my hair down that far! :shock: *crossing her fingers* I hope they do!)

I try to put my hair up into a tight bun so that I don't hit anyone; because if I put it into a pony tail (high or low), it'll still go for my lead's face. It has a tendency to eat people... It prefers small children though! :wink: :twisted: :wink: I'd like to leave it down occasionally though; putting it into those buns and pony tails can be bad for the hair; causes breakage and split ends... :shock: :shock: :? :evil:

I may be a tomboy, but that doesn't mean I don't love my hair! 8)

Sakura Kitty :kitty:

jon
06-28-2004, 07:58 PM
My girlfriend's hair is intensely long, which is really great for me, I dig on it, but it drives her nuts. She's got the whole bun-making thing down to a routine that barely takes a moment, but it still annoys her having to rebuild it after almost every dance.

I dated someone who had lovely long hair once, and made sure she knew how much I liked it. She went home for Christmas vacation and came back with a major haircut. I expressed shock, dismay... and she pulled the hair, bundled into a cylinder, out of her suitcase and handed it to me.

It was a great teaching moment. I had what I wanted so badly, so how could I complain any longer?

pygmalion
06-28-2004, 08:04 PM
Yes. I never have understood that. Why are men so stringent about keeping a WOMAN's hair long? But a lot of them are.

Not to minimize any of this, but when I want long hair, I buy it and have it woven in. Otherwise, I keep myself comfortable. I've never had a boyfriend who was emotionally invested either way. What's that about? I really woud like to know, as I'm in boyfriend-hunting mode LOL!

Laura
06-28-2004, 08:17 PM
You never know what a guy will go for. My college boyfriend liked my hands. My husband likes my hair. If you're serious about the boyfriend-hunting thing, then find a style that makes you feel like flirting. A favorite author of mine once wrote that it's impossible to flirt if you're having a bad hair day! And if you can't flirt, then the next step of meeting a boyfriend is also impossible.

pygmalion
06-28-2004, 08:24 PM
LOL! I can flirt in pretty much any circumstance. so maybe I shouldn't worry about hair? :roll: :lol:

Sagitta
06-28-2004, 08:29 PM
And if you cann't flirt how are you going to latin dance? :(

jon
06-28-2004, 08:40 PM
What's that about? I really woud like to know, as I'm in boyfriend-hunting mode LOL!

Can be sexy to watch, enjoyable for me to brush for her (and perhaps a bit of a bonding activity), fun to play with. OTOH it can get in the way and tickle at just the wrong time :-) Wear it however suits you, not how some hypothetical guy might respond to it.

Sagitta
06-28-2004, 10:03 PM
What's that about? I really woud like to know, as I'm in boyfriend-hunting mode LOL!

Can be sexy to watch, enjoyable for me to brush for her (and perhaps a bit of a bonding activity), fun to play with. OTOH it can get in the way and tickle at just the wrong time :-) Wear it however suits you, not how some hypothetical guy might respond to it.

Well in AT I often get my nose tickled. If you want a decent dance for me that hair has to be tucked away ladies. :)

jon
06-28-2004, 10:15 PM
Well in AT I often get my nose tickled. If you want a decent dance for me that hair has to be tucked away ladies. :)

Er, I wasn't actually talking about tickling during dancing, if you follow the context back to pygmalion's question :-)

Sagitta
06-28-2004, 10:19 PM
Well in AT I often get my nose tickled. If you want a decent dance for me that hair has to be tucked away ladies. :)

Er, I wasn't actually talking about tickling during dancing, if you follow the context back to pygmalion's question :-)

I know, I know :P Just giving the more serious dfers a chance to jump back in on the thread topic, that's all! :P :)

salsachinita
06-29-2004, 02:37 AM
... and she pulled the hair, bundled into a cylinder, out of her suitcase and handed it to me.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I grow my hair down to a length that annoys me (when I actually can't avoid sitting on it)........then cut it back to shoulder length.

Which means I get a haircut every two years 8) ! More money to go shopping :P !

I always keep my bundles of hair though. One day I'm gonna have a stunning wig made, all out of my own hair!

MadamSamba
06-29-2004, 02:42 AM
BBW, the other thing, from the other dancers' point of view, is that long hair can be bloody annoying!

I've got relatively long hair myself. It's just past my shoulders so it's nowhere near as long as some people, but there are some women who whip around forgetting that while their partner/boyfriend might be enjoying it, the other girls getting whipped by it aren't so impressed.

I was almost blinded once by this woman who whipped around in a Viennese Waltz. Then there was the time I saw a woman's hair getting stuck in her partner's watch while they did some complicated salsa move... :lol: and, of course, from a martial arts perspective, long hair is one more weopon an enemy can use against you! LOL

SDsalsaguy
06-29-2004, 03:47 AM
...from a martial arts perspective, long hair is one more weopon an enemy can use against you! LOL
Sure... but from dance floor experiences it is also one more weapon that you can use against others as well! :wink: :lol:

Sabor
06-29-2004, 04:57 AM
i took up boxing for a while to perfect the art of slap evasion .. so, after some long suffering i believe i have made it out barely alive .. and can handle it now.. :lol: so keep the hair.. if it looks good well all the better for u :wink:

Sakura
06-29-2004, 10:24 AM
LOL! I can flirt in pretty much any circumstance. so maybe I shouldn't worry about hair? :roll: :lol:

One less thing to worry about I'd suppose! The one can be more serious about hunting! :)

And if you cann't flirt how are you going to latin dance? :(

He's got a point you know... *"Wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I mean?"* 8) :wink:

Sakura Kitty :kitty:

Larinda McRaven
06-29-2004, 10:02 PM
I have very long hair, I can just about sit on it.

It has taken me years to develop an effecient method for teaching, practicing and social dancing. Leaving it loose it absolutely not a option. When a guy goes to take hold and he gets a handful of hair it is disruptive, especially in Smooth as I move in and out of closed hold continually. Everythig comes to a screeching halt... Also my hair tends to get caught in watches, buttons, or any other peices of adormnent that my partner or students wear, or blinds me when I spin, not to forget the already accounted for "whack factor".

I used to pull it back and just do a sort of bun everyday for work. I have a ton of hair, very fine, but a ton of it. If I put it in a bun I have to use so many hair pins and pin it so tight, I ended up getting headaches, not to mention I lost quite a bit of hair around my forehead one summer.

Now I just braid it and wrap the elastic around the top of my bra strap. Once I had tried pinning it to my shirt, what Laura just mentioned, but it was way too annoying, the weight of my hair kept yanking my shirt all over. My way, the braid sits nicely across my shoulder and never moves. Most people have no idea it is attatched to anything and are amazed that I can fly all over and my hair just sits there.

cocodrilo
06-30-2004, 12:40 AM
Mine's down to my butt and thick as a mop, meaning it's hot as hell if I wear it down for salsa. (A 2-towel evening!) The latinos say they love it but the salseros sometimes start to whine( to which I say "Then don't spin me so damn many times!")... :twisted:

lily
06-30-2004, 05:02 AM
I've had the same problems - my hair reaches down to my butt and if I leave it loose I just get way too hot. I often put it in a high pony tail and if the guy I'm dancing with gets whipped in the face I tuck it under my bra strap for that dance. I always thought that it depended on the height of the guy as to whether or not my hair would be a problem, but it seems that there are techniques you use to avoid the whip!

The best hair style I have found, however, is 2 low braids. That way when I spin around I only strangle myself! I like this style the best as it's cute and it helps me balance when I spin!

What I do somethimes if I want a short, high pony tail is first braid my hair in a low braid down my back (leaving the end untied). Then I pull the braid up and clip it near the top of my head where I want the pony tail to start. I then tie a ribbon or scrunchy around the clip and the 'doubled-over' pony tail hides the braid at the back of my neck. This way I get a nice pony tail but am no danger to my partners :D

Sabor
06-30-2004, 06:52 AM
The best hair style I have found, however, is 2 low braids. That way when I spin around I only strangle myself!

did that sentence strike any one else as.. umm.. just a tad odd? :lol:

Sabor
06-30-2004, 06:57 AM
I have very long hair, I can just about sit on it.


and then what happened!?! :shock:

cocodrilo
06-30-2004, 07:10 AM
Sabor, amore, what gives? Maybe you need another pisco sour then you can get on track with what us members of the female persuasion are thinking!!! :lol:

lily
06-30-2004, 07:27 AM
The best hair style I have found, however, is 2 low braids. That way when I spin around I only strangle myself!

did that sentence strike any one else as.. umm.. just a tad odd? :lol:

:oops: I suppose it does sound strange :lol:

What I meant is that when I wear my hair like that, it can only be annoying to me rather than my partner; the braids can wrap themselves around my neck if I spin very fast. It's an odd feeling, but not as uncomfortable as being whipped in the face by a pony tail, I should imagine! :shock: :D

DWise1
06-30-2004, 10:35 AM
Speaking from the "spear side" (opposite of "distaff side" http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifwhtppstdstffsd.shtml ), I would first say that I do understand that longer hair can present many problems including overheating (a very definite problem in Lindy and, I've heard, in Salsa). Second, I wish to assure you that I'm not gloating over being able to wear my own hair "high and tight" -- longer than a crew-cut, but still much too short to acknowledge the ministrations of a comb.

I do not tend to "have a thing" for a particular length of hair on a woman. I do feel a bit uncomfortable at first going into dance position when her hair hangs down her back, but that it because I'm afraid of pinning her hair there and so causing it to pull and so cause her discomfort. However, this does not seem to remain a problem once the dance actually starts.

As for long hair whipping around and hitting me in the face when she turns, I can see it coming so I protect myself by keeping my mouth and eyes closed during that instant. If anything, I kind of enjoy it, but only because of the *******ing cool breeze it generates, not because of any innate kinkiness (at least I hope not!).


Among the options for wearing your hair up, I don't think I've seen mention of using a scarf to help hold it in place. One girl in class is always dressed in a 40's/50's retro style and keeps her hair up in that manner. Or is that simply not fashionable?

Pacion
07-01-2004, 07:40 AM
Trying to keep this 'equal' and not directed at any DF members :D what about you ladies? Have you ever danced with a guy with a ponytail? Did it get in the way, like guys complain about ladies?

(As an aside, it always amazes me how some guys have such gorgeous hair :roll: what on earth do they need it for/do with it? :roll: It is not like if some 'caveman' is going to grab them by the hair and throw them over their shoulder now, is it :roll: :lol: )

Sakura
07-01-2004, 01:38 PM
Trying to keep this 'equal' and not directed at any DF members :D what about you ladies? Have you ever danced with a guy with a ponytail? Did it get in the way, like guys complain about ladies?

(As an aside, it always amazes me how some guys have such gorgeous hair :roll: what on earth do they need it for/do with it? :roll: It is not like if some 'caveman' is going to grab them by the hair and throw them over their shoulder now, is it :roll: :lol: )

I've danced some WCS with a guy who had about shoulder-length hair. However, he was about two or more heads taller than I was, so it was no problem! :shock: :roll: :shock: (Seriously, I didn't even come up to his shoulders! :shock: :? :shock: Way to rub my short-ness into my psyche, huh? :wink: )
Personally, I'm rather fond of longer hair on guys, but many men either don't try for the long hair, or it just doesn't look right on them, so I'm content with short hair. :D I'm not picky, guys are my buddies. (In a good way, of course!**)

To your aside, Pacion, it's true! So many of my guy friends have this awesomely soft, shiny hair, and they don't even TRY for it!!! :evil: And I have to do all this work to keep my long, thick hair from being *consumed* by the stupid split ends I cause by all my ponytails and twist-buns... :x Not fair... And while no caveman is going to come for them and grab them by their hair, it is entirely plausible that a gaggle of women should come along, tie them up, whisk them away to a secret laboratory, and try to unlock the secret of their luxurious hair! 8) :wink:

Sakura Kitty :kitty:

**'Cause we all remember my, "Single and loving it," phrase, with my ego going, "I am waaaay superior to any of the guys around my age level!" :lol: And the biggest thing to remember is that none of them dance, so how could I possibly grace them with my presence!

Okay, end of the ego trip! :roll:

TemptressToo
07-01-2004, 05:51 PM
My hair is very long as well. For ballroom and swing, this is what I do.

1. Put slightly damp hair into a ponytail located around the middle of the back or the head or slightly lower (closer to the neck).
2. Braid ponytail all the way to the bottom (sometimes, incorporating smaller braids, ie braid each of the three sections before doing the final braid, helps in keeping it all in). Put an elastic at the bottom.
3. Wrap braid around and around the base of the ponytail making sure to tuck the elastic under a coil of hair.
4. Take several neutral colored elastics and band them around the coil or braids.
5. Insert 5-7 strategically placed bobby pins around the base of the coil for good measure.
6. A spritz of hair spray will typically lock any fly aways in.

This normally stays up all night and I have very thick hair. It has withstood 4 hours of ECS, a night of ballroom, and evenings of salsa/merengue.

Good luck ladies...

Pacion
07-01-2004, 06:04 PM
What about the hair pieces? Has anyone tried those?

dancin_feet
07-01-2004, 06:21 PM
What about the hair pieces? Has anyone tried those?

We had one of the more advanced dancers recently do a performance with a hairpiece. She hadn't even worn it to dress rehearsal so it was the first time she had danced with a sizeable mop of hair. She covered it up quite well, but you could tell she wasn't quite balanced and she nearly lost some costuming over her head because her hair was so heavy. Her lead wasn't all that bothered by it because he was used to others with long hair. The main affect was on her.

salsachinita
07-02-2004, 02:14 AM
What about the hair pieces? Has anyone tried those?

I have one but only wear it occasionally. It all started because I wanted Afro micro braids but it would cost too much for my hair (I have a lot of hair & very long at the time), plus, my hair grows way too fast, the maintenance would be too expensive too.

So I found this piece like a big ponytail with micro braids & some thick, soft curls beneath it. It's a shade darker than my natural colour but it was the only thing that would hide my whole mop!

It takes a while to put on (main job was to hide my own hair) but once on, it's relatively secure. I've done some serious salsa with it on (Casino style with lots of over-head tricks too!) & it was fine.

The only drawback is that I get a pretty sore scalp where the bobby pins were :x .......

(I will dig around for photos)

Victoria
07-02-2004, 06:07 AM
Thought i should join in as i have been browsing for a while.
I'm a member of the long hair club - i sit on mine. Its very fine and flyaway. I have to say that i never dance with it down or in a ponytail as i alwats end up strangling myself or flicking my partner in the face.
I always put it up in a bun, twisted tightly round and held in pplace with 4 pins - it lasts all night. The trick is to twist and twist the hair as you wrap it round itself.

IJust a quick funny story:- I was having a lesson once, after duly putting my hair up in a bun for the lesson, the teacher asked me to take my hair down into a ponytail and proceeded to dance with me, whilst pulling my hair back to get the right sort of lean and shape out for a ballroom hold!!!

squirrel
07-02-2004, 06:38 AM
my hair is going down to the middle of my back... it is not so long, but still gets in the way :)... gets caught in stuff... gets all over my face when I dance... if I make it a ponytail I just slap everybody around me :)... I usually just let it be... :)

Sabor
07-04-2004, 05:07 AM
IJust a quick funny story:- I was having a lesson once, after duly putting my hair up in a bun for the lesson, the teacher asked me to take my hair down into a ponytail and proceeded to dance with me, whilst pulling my hair back to get the right sort of lean and shape out for a ballroom hold!!!

and then what happened!?! :shock:

pygmalion
07-04-2004, 07:35 AM
The teacher PULLED your ponytail? Is that what I'm hearing? :shock: My mind is boggled.

Sagitta
07-04-2004, 07:38 AM
The teacher PULLED your ponytail? Is that what I'm hearing? :shock: My mind is boggled.

OUCH!!

Sakura
07-04-2004, 11:24 AM
The teacher PULLED your ponytail? Is that what I'm hearing? :shock: My mind is boggled.

OUCH!!

:shock: If that's what happened, then I'm going with Sagitta's answer! :evil: Hair pulling is not allowed! =^__^=;;

Sakura Kitty :kitty:

Sagitta
07-04-2004, 11:28 AM
You mean to say no playful tugging? :( Flirting? :cry:

peachexploration
07-04-2004, 11:48 AM
Mine's down to my butt and thick as a mop, meaning it's hot as hell if I wear it down for salsa. (A 2-towel evening!) The latinos say they love it but the salseros sometimes start to whine( to which I say "Then don't spin me so damn many times!")... :twisted:

Mine is past my shoulders and the guys in this area love it and actually say they love it when it hits them in the face. At first, I thought it was sacarsm but they were like "No, please do it again!" :shock: LOL! Silly guys. :lol: :nope: Think I'll buy a T-Shirt that says "Hair Slapper, Beware!" :lol:

cocodrilo
07-04-2004, 04:26 PM
Some guys have told me that, too, Peach(the latinos! They LOVE long hair!) I'm gonna get me one of those T-shirts! :lol:

Sania
07-04-2004, 05:04 PM
One thing you can do with long hair is braid it and then pin the braid to your dress somewhere. Competitive Latin dancers were doing this for a while, not sure if it's still in fashion or not.

I always liked that look but I haven't seen it for a while - especially disappointing since I now have enough hair of my own that I could attach a hairpiece and get that look. On the other hand, if I haven't seen it for a while, it must be due to come back soon!

Sabor
07-05-2004, 04:30 AM
and i'm getting a T-shirt that says ''slap me silly!"

Victoria
07-05-2004, 05:25 AM
To clarify - the hair pulling incident (well it wasn't pulled, but held taught!)- yes it was to get the right shape & lean. We waltzed around with my hair being held backwards for a couple of bars. It it certainly something i remember when i practice!.
It was all done in fun and by very nice people :)

Sabor
07-05-2004, 05:33 AM
allright .. we now seem to have:

hairpulling and slapping..

anyone for scratching and biting so we can complete the set? lol

cocodrilo
07-05-2004, 05:38 AM
allright .. we now seem to have:

hairpulling and slapping..

anyone for scratching and biting so we can complete the set? lol

But Sabor, you've ALREADY let us know that YOU'VE been scratched and bitten!!! :lol:

Sakura
07-05-2004, 07:26 AM
You mean to say no playful tugging? :( Flirting? :cry:

A little bit, just so long as it's not the, "I'm pulling your hair because I know it hurts!" route. =>_<= That hurts. Otherwise, I suppose a bit every not and then is okay! :wink:

Peach, sign me up to recieve one of those t-shirts! :twisted: My evil hair needs warning labels... :roll: :mrgreen:

Sabor; maybe you should just go get a tempermental cat... Or two... Or five! Or you could go for lucky number seven like my friend Sarah! =^__^= I'm sure they'd love to be adopted! And you could give them names relating to Salsa! :lol: 8)

Sakura Kitty :kitty:

pygmalion
07-05-2004, 08:10 AM
To clarify - the hair pulling incident (well it wasn't pulled, but held taught!)- yes it was to get the right shape & lean. We waltzed around with my hair being held backwards for a couple of bars. It it certainly something i remember when i practice!.
It was all done in fun and by very nice people :)

Nice people using your ponytail for a teaching tool? :roll: Okay. I guess I'll take your word for it. :wink: :lol:

Sakura
07-05-2004, 08:15 AM
To clarify - the hair pulling incident (well it wasn't pulled, but held taught!)- yes it was to get the right shape & lean. We waltzed around with my hair being held backwards for a couple of bars. It it certainly something i remember when i practice!.
It was all done in fun and by very nice people :)

Nice people using your ponytail for a teaching tool? :roll: Okay. I guess I'll take your word for it. :wink: :lol:

Hey, they call those people in the White Coats nice... :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

SK :kitty:

Victoria
07-05-2004, 08:22 AM
Hey, they call those people in the White Coats nice... :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

SK :kitty:

They weren't wearing white coats, but they did charge lots of money! :wink:

peachexploration
07-05-2004, 12:36 PM
and i'm getting a T-shirt that says ''slap me silly!"

Hilarious!!! :lol: :lol:

pygmalion
07-05-2004, 01:42 PM
and i'm getting a T-shirt that says ''slap me silly!"


I can't imagine that you'd need such a shirt, Sabor. I figured you'd already have lots of volunteers. :roll: :wink:

Sasashay
07-05-2004, 05:15 PM
I can't say that I've ever had my hair pulled or used as a teaching tool :wink: Unless I'm really hot and sweaty, however, I try to keep my hair down because when I put it up in a bun on top of my head, it always gets whacked by my various dance partners when they turn me. It almost feels like I'm being beheaded :D

Sakura
07-05-2004, 05:30 PM
Hey, they call those people in the White Coats nice... :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

SK :kitty:

They weren't wearing white coats, but they did charge lots of money! :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah, that money bit tends to cancel out the the "nice," doesn't it? :wink:

and i'm getting a T-shirt that says ''slap me silly!"


I can't imagine that you'd need such a shirt, Sabor. I figured you'd already have lots of volunteers. :roll: :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It's a good thing everyone here on DF knows we love each other! ...Well placed, Pygmalion! :wink:

SK :kitty:

pygmalion
07-05-2004, 05:57 PM
Sabor knows it's a love thing, don't you, Sabor? :wink: :friend:

Sabor
07-06-2004, 04:14 AM
violent love .. oh mondieu! :shock:

squirrel
07-06-2004, 04:17 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sabor, are you violent???

Sabor
07-06-2004, 04:22 AM
only when attacked and got no where to run :lol:

squirrel
07-06-2004, 04:43 AM
I don't know... I prefer not to speculate! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

MacMoto
07-06-2004, 05:18 AM
Hi Sasashay, welcome to DF!

I can't say that I've ever had my hair pulled or used as a teaching tool :wink: Unless I'm really hot and sweaty, however, I try to keep my hair down
I'm in the "keep the hair down" club with you. Hopefully it will deter guys from spinning me too much :lol:. One of my dance friends did try to use my hair to lead once (anyone thinking about this, no, it doesn't work! :x).

pygmalion
07-06-2004, 07:17 AM
Use your hair to lead? Um... how? And how hard did you kick his shins?!? :twisted: :lol:

Sakura
07-06-2004, 03:45 PM
Use your hair to lead? Um... how? And how hard did you kick his shins?!? :twisted: :lol:

I just wanna know how hard you kicked him!!!! :evil: :evil: Nobody mistreats my hair and gets away with it!

Poor Sabor, we're all loving you so violently right now! Just remember, it's for your own good! :friend:

SK :kitty:

LauraB
07-06-2004, 05:53 PM
My hair is almost halfway down my back, but *extremely* thick. I can't dance with it down, ever. It gets in my face, makes it hard for me to spot, gets really messy, and makes me hot to boot. It's so thick, though, that ponytails don't stay in. The heaviness of the hair pulls it right out. If my ponytail does stay in for a whole song, it's killing my partner everytime I turn. I have to take a couple heavy-duty hair bands, wrap 'em a few times around a ponytail, then take another one or two and give myself a little 'bobbed' ponytail. It keeps it mostly off my neck, it's short enough to not hit my partner in the face, and the multitude of strong hair bands usually keeps it it in place.

Sakura
07-06-2004, 08:15 PM
My hair is almost halfway down my back, but *extremely* thick. I can't dance with it down, ever. It gets in my face, makes it hard for me to spot, gets really messy, and makes me hot to boot. It's so thick, though, that ponytails don't stay in. The heaviness of the hair pulls it right out. If my ponytail does stay in for a whole song, it's killing my partner everytime I turn. I have to take a couple heavy-duty hair bands, wrap 'em a few times around a ponytail, then take another one or two and give myself a little 'bobbed' ponytail. It keeps it mostly off my neck, it's short enough to not hit my partner in the face, and the multitude of strong hair bands usually keeps it it in place.

Oh, I feel for you! My hair's soooo thick, I *have* to use those really tight buns or it just falls out on me. Of course, eventually it tries to come out, so I have to redo it.

Bless the person who made the strong hair bands with no metal parts! :D

SK :kitty:

cocodrilo
07-07-2004, 01:46 AM
In Japan you can buy a 2-foot long length of hairband-like material. I cut it a size to accommodate my substantial ponytail. You just tie the ends together in a knot, which can be hidden under the ponytail. It's perfect all the time 'cause it's neither too loose or too tight! :D

Sakura
07-07-2004, 01:48 AM
That sounds really cool, Cocodrilo! :D

SK :kitty:

cocodrilo
07-07-2004, 01:58 AM
Yeah they work really well! Come in all colors of th' rainbow, too! The hairbands that I buy from the states actually rust 8the metal part!) becaus I use them for sports & get them all sweaty. (The 200% humidity in Japan helps, too...) :?

Sakura
07-07-2004, 02:00 AM
(The 200% humidity in Japan helps, too...) :?

:lol: :lol: :lol: Just a little bit, right? :wink:

Sakura Kitty :kitty:

cocodrilo
07-07-2004, 02:05 AM
I am in a skimpy camisole and pants(rolled up to my knees) and sweat is dripping down every crevice of my body! I am going to wash my face as my make-up is history and i have a kids' class to teach in half an hour...
UGHHHHHHHH!

Sakura
07-07-2004, 02:11 AM
I am in a skimpy camisole and pants(rolled up to my knees) and sweat is dripping down every crevice of my body! I am going to wash my face as my make-up is history and i have a kids' class to teach in half an hour...
UGHHHHHHHH!

:shock: :shock: You seem busy! Tell me, what time is it there? It's 2:11 AM here in Indiana!

SK :kitty:

(PS- Good luck with that class!)

MacMoto
07-07-2004, 02:32 AM
My hair is almost halfway down my back, but *extremely* thick. I can't dance with it down, ever. It gets in my face, makes it hard for me to spot, gets really messy, and makes me hot to boot. It's so thick, though, that ponytails don't stay in.
My hair is also halfway down my back and very thick. Visibility is a problem as you say, and although I leave my hair down, I need to use a hair band or clip to keep it off my face. When I don't want my hair to be messy (my hair is curly and its volume seems to double after a night of dancing), I use a bow clip with hair net attached to it.

Larinda McRaven
07-07-2004, 08:27 AM
I am in a skimpy camisole and pants(rolled up to my knees) and sweat is dripping down every crevice of my body!

uumm, don't let Sabor hear you say that, or he will hijack the thread with his shameless flirting :D

Sabor
07-07-2004, 09:18 AM
uumm, don't let Sabor hear you say that, or he will hijack the thread with his shameless flirting :D

*sigh* luv it every time she writes my name.. especially between the words 'let' & 'hear'.. *sigh* :P

Danoo
07-07-2004, 09:35 AM
lol ive been hit in the face about 5 times already with long hair and ive only been dancing for 8 weeks..

it doesnt bother me tho :)

Sakura
07-07-2004, 04:21 PM
uumm, don't let Sabor hear you say that, or he will hijack the thread with his shameless flirting :D

*sigh* luv it every time she writes my name.. especially between the words 'let' & 'hear'.. *sigh* :P

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

*clutching her sides* Hilarious! Absolutely hilarious!!!!!! Of course, we all know Larinda's right! :twisted:

SK :kitty:

(PS-Danoo, are you going to get one of Sabor's shirts too? :D )

squirrel
07-08-2004, 07:22 AM
how can you even say Sabor is flirting! Why, he's the most serious person I have ever met!!!!

Sakura
07-08-2004, 10:14 AM
how can you even say Sabor is flirting! Why, he's the most serious person I have ever met!!!!

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Scandal!!! Are we to believe we've been being mislead by tabloid rumours?!?! 8) :lol: 8) :lol:

SK :kitty:

Sabor
07-11-2004, 05:46 AM
how can you even say Sabor is flirting! Why, he's the most serious person I have ever met!!!!

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/spezial/Fool/inc.gif

Pacion
07-11-2004, 09:52 AM
Ummm Sabor, isn't this => http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/spezial/Fool/brsh.gif the smilie you should have used? :roll: :roll: :lol:

standardgirl
10-27-2004, 07:08 PM
To clarify - the hair pulling incident (well it wasn't pulled, but held taught!)- yes it was to get the right shape & lean. We waltzed around with my hair being held backwards for a couple of bars. It it certainly something i remember when i practice!.
It was all done in fun and by very nice people :)

Nice people using your ponytail for a teaching tool? :roll: Okay. I guess I'll take your word for it. :wink: :lol:

I have the same experience, my standard teacher also pulls on my ponytail to make sure I achieve the right position for standard. He even asked me once to pull my hair to a really high ponytail, so that he can "use" it. He is really nice though.

jenn
11-10-2004, 10:02 PM
gosh, this was such a long thread to read! :?
i didnt want to start a new thread on hair, so i ll continue here.

all the ladies offered a lot of good ideas about what to do with long hair that whips, gets caught in things, and blinds. while they are awesome suggestions, (and you all must have beautiful faces to do this), i cant sport a braid or ponytail or a bun. i look horrible in them!! :cry:
i know that sounds really vain and superficial, but i want to feel as good as the next person while im dancing. :oops:

but lately, since my hair is getting longer and longer, it keeps getting caught in those watches and inner elbows (:lol: yep, inner elbows).
and my hair is getting yanked off little by little. i end up with all this breakage. and the ends generally look thinner. :evil:
i wasnt blessed with thick hair like some of you, so its not very strong...
so heres my question: is there no hope for me?



btw, at this moment, im contemplating the ultimate solution...chopping it off!

dancin_feet
11-10-2004, 10:17 PM
That was my only option jenn. I tried many different ways of putting it up and since I am not great at putting hair up anyway, I decided to just get it chopped off to shoulder length and keep it there. Much easier to look after and cheaper on the shampoo as well! :wink:

peachexploration
11-10-2004, 10:39 PM
I see ladies, including myself, just pulling it all back. Sort of like a what most ballerinas do. Still very stylish and you don't have to cut it. :D

jenn
11-11-2004, 01:57 AM
That was my only option jenn. I tried many different ways of putting it up and since I am not great at putting hair up anyway, I decided to just get it chopped off to shoulder length and keep it there. Much easier to look after and cheaper on the shampoo as well! :wink:


dancin feet...i just read this and ive come back to the computer with less hair :lol:
i just couldnt take it anymore, so i cut off about 5 inches. nothing drastic, but hopefully enough not to get caught in anything.
as for the ballerina look, i would look like a little old lady in teenage clothing! :lol: :wink:

Sabor
11-11-2004, 05:23 AM
i'm currently bald :shock: .. i shaved it completely to ground zero a few days back.. as for how i look.. i think my reflection would run away screaming if it can :lol:

Sabor... a new concept to the phrase 'clean shaven' :lol:

squirrel
11-11-2004, 05:38 AM
:shock: :shock:

Sabor, can we please have some pictures???

Sabor
11-11-2004, 05:59 AM
my avatar pic is the only one i had recently.. only unfortunately i'm wearing a cap :lol: :wink:

if i happen to get any more i'll send it to u.. i'm sure u can use the shock value lol

squirrel
11-11-2004, 06:01 AM
It is not easy to shock me... but I am just curious!

And why on Earth did you do it???

MacMoto
11-11-2004, 06:09 AM
That was my only option jenn. I tried many different ways of putting it up and since I am not great at putting hair up anyway, I decided to just get it chopped off to shoulder length and keep it there. Much easier to look after and cheaper on the shampoo as well! :wink:
It's been my routine to have a big chop every 2-3 years (from middle-of-back length to above neck -- yeah I mean BIG chop :shock:), but this time I decided against it and only took about 20 cm off because of my dancing.

I have the sort of thick curling hair that explodes and doubles in volume when mixed with moisure (e.g. sweat) and movement, especially when it's short and not weighed down by its length. It's much easier to manage when long -- I can just tie it back or roll it up at the nape and tuck in a hair net, although frequently I don't and just wear a hairband of a sort to keep it off my face. I also use my hair as a deterrent -- spin me and risk getting your face whipped! :twisted:

Sabor
11-11-2004, 06:38 AM
It is not easy to shock me... but I am just curious!

And why on Earth did you do it???

ooh i'm sure i can shock u.. plenty :lol: ..
i do it once a year.. take a break.. and for the change.. i'm volatile u see :mrgreen:

peachexploration
11-11-2004, 05:59 PM
i'm currently bald :shock: .. i shaved it completely to ground zero a few days back.. as for how i look.. i think my reflection would run away screaming if it can :lol:

Sabor... a new concept to the phrase 'clean shaven' :lol:

Oh no! AAAhhhhhhh!!! The curly locks are gone?!!! :cry: Gosh, and I had this new shampoo that....Oh nevermind, it'll grow back.... :wink: :P






:lol: :lol:

dancin_feet
11-11-2004, 06:39 PM
I also use my hair as a deterrent -- spin me and risk getting your face whipped! :twisted:

Deterrent!!?? :? :o But I want guys to spin me!!!!

When I go to party and feel in a spinny mood I always wear a skirt that flares up. Nothing like encouraging leads to do what you want them to do!! :wink: :lol:

clave
11-11-2004, 06:48 PM
First, my lead-centric $0.02 on the subject of this thread: I LOVE getting a mouthful of hair when dancing. The longer the better. The darker the better, blonde simply doesn't do it for me. :)

Now, reality check:
but lately, since my hair is getting longer and longer, it keeps getting caught in those watches and inner elbows ( yep, inner elbows).
and my hair is getting yanked off little by little. i end up with all this breakage. and the ends generally look thinner.
Don't even get me started on those stupid plastic wristbands they put on you at congresses and some clubs--if you think hair caught in a watch is OWW! can you imagine what an earring yanked out must feel like!? Grr.

So, trying hard not to be a hypocrite, and since I buzz-cut my hair 'cause it's a friggin' nuisance at more than half an inch, I'd say, vanity aside, a girl outght to keep hers not longer than comfortable. But guys definitely fall for long hair, it's just the way our puny chicken brains are wired up. :wink: So if sexy is what you're aiming for let it grow, and don't be shy about asking guys to take off their watches when dancing with you, it's a negligible sacrifice on their part methinks.

As for how to keep it tidy, buns and clips and ponytails work fine, just don't use those stylish japanese wooden sticks to hold the bun, those HURT! :o

motardmom
11-11-2004, 10:23 PM
but lately, since my hair is getting longer and longer, it keeps getting caught in those watches and inner elbows (:lol: yep, inner elbows).
and my hair is getting yanked off little by little. i end up with all this breakage. and the ends generally look thinner. :evil:
i wasnt blessed with thick hair like some of you, so its not very strong...
so heres my question: is there no hope for me?

My favorite hair accessory is a concorde clip: http://www.hairboutique.com/tips/tip903.htm (scroll about 3/4 of the way down, it's black). I twist my hair up into a french twist then I shove the clip down the center of the twist and I'm all set. I usually get it in there deep enough that only the very top shows and I haven't yet had anyone get hung up on it in a turn. Sometimes I leave a little fluff of hair (or spiky fringe) out the top, sometimes I tuck it all in. I think you can get them at mall accessory stores. I prefer metal over plastic, they stay in better.

BTW, I bet you look just fine with your hair up. We are always more critical of ourselves than others are of us.

MacMoto
11-12-2004, 01:13 AM
First, my lead-centric $0.02 on the subject of this thread: I LOVE getting a mouthful of hair when dancing. The longer the better. The darker the better, blonde simply doesn't do it for me. :)

Oh -- so... no deterrent for you then :?

dancin_feet
11-14-2004, 06:39 PM
Just a little side note - I tried to "bun" my hair on the weekend. The pins kept falling out. Will have to stick with the high ponytail that is pulled only halfway through for the summer, I think. :x :oops:

clave
11-14-2004, 11:50 PM
First, my lead-centric $0.02 on the subject of this thread: I LOVE getting a mouthful of hair when dancing. The longer the better. The darker the better, blonde simply doesn't do it for me. :)
Oh -- so... no deterrent for you then :?
D'oh! Figures I'd inadvertently insult most of the follows in Scotland with such a comment. Note to self: do not type while drunk on dancing. :oops:

Backpedaling quickly, that was a sarcastic comment referring to the rather sad fashion whereby many gorgeous brunettes feel the need to dye their hair blonde lest they be insufficiently sexy. You must remember that I live awfully close to the epicenter of the "blonde bimbo" phenomenon, it's endemic here to my chagrin. Not to even mention other kinds of, um, personal augmentation. (Where was it I read that there are more viewers of Baywatch in the world than Catholics? Telling, that is...)

So, back on track. Do you keep your hair in its natural colour? If not, why not?

cocodrilo
11-15-2004, 12:00 AM
Guys have often told me they LOVE my long, dark brown hair and I wouldn't color it or cut it for ANYTHING! Get a lot of compliments from women, but few from men(remember, this is Japan!) but when I go do parties, the latino guys drool and I get compliments(about my hair!), so that's good enough for me! 8)

Laura
11-15-2004, 01:47 AM
I'm naturally blonde, but it's darkened over the years to something less than scintillating. So I color it, but I keep it in the range of natural golden blonde hues.

salsachinita
11-15-2004, 02:46 AM
First, my lead-centric $0.02 on the subject of this thread: I LOVE getting a mouthful of hair when dancing. The longer the better. The darker the better :)

:D Yay!!!!!! You'd love dancing with me then......!!!!!

Any plans to come join us down here any time soon :wink: ?

MacMoto
11-15-2004, 03:34 AM
First, my lead-centric $0.02 on the subject of this thread: I LOVE getting a mouthful of hair when dancing. The longer the better. The darker the better, blonde simply doesn't do it for me. :)
Oh -- so... no deterrent for you then :?
D'oh! Figures I'd inadvertently insult most of the follows in Scotland with such a comment. Note to self: do not type while drunk on dancing. :oops:
Well, follows in Scotland come in many shades, from blonde to auburn to pure black. My hair is long AND dark (though not as black as it used to be) -- I was referring to my wearign my hair down when dancing in the hope of putting guys of spinning me too much... obviously it won't work for all guys :lol:

Backpedaling quickly, that was a sarcastic comment referring to the rather sad fashion whereby many gorgeous brunettes feel the need to dye their hair blonde lest they be insufficiently sexy.
...
So, back on track. Do you keep your hair in its natural colour? If not, why not?
It's true that many young brunettes choose to go blonde because it's considered sexy and attracts male attention (which is true -- when a girl I know went blonde, she immediately noticed the difference). It's also true that many not-so-young-any-more brunettes choose to go blonde when grey hair starts to show. When colouring grey hair, a lighter shade somehow looks more natural than your natural colour (I've been told this is something to do with the change in skin tone that also happens at the same time). Grey is VERY noticeable when you are naturally dark haired and makes you look VERY old -- which is why I dye my hair (not blonde, but certainly a lighter shade than my natural colour).

clave
11-15-2004, 05:30 PM
:D Yay!!!!!! You'd love dancing with me then......!!!!!

Any plans to come join us down here any time soon :wink: ?
I'm sure I'd love dancing with you for reasons other than hair, such as skill for instance. :) And at the rate my frequent flier miles are piling up I just might show up in the not too distant future.

But I find it most interesting that you refer to your continent as "down here". Aren't you folks supposed to have those maps where the world is shown the "right side up"? :bouncy:

clave
11-15-2004, 05:35 PM
I was referring to my wearign my hair down when dancing in the hope of putting guys of spinning me too much... obviously it won't work for all guys :lol:
Oh, that. Nope, sorry, ineffective twirl deterrent. If, on the other hand, you put lead beads on the ends... :twisted:

amrimi
11-16-2004, 03:44 PM
My hair is about mid back length. I cannot stand to have it open while dancing because it just gets to hot. The problem is that my hair is very thick, heavy and very sleek, so that all kinds of hairthings won't stay in the hair. However I found a way to fix my hair when I go dancing. First I do a ponytail, then tease (I'm not sure if this is the right word, found it in the dictionary) the hair heavyly. After that I twist it into a loose bun and fix it with a three pronged chignon pin. Around the whole thing I put an elastic with a flower. At the end I only fix some single strands with bobby pins and put lots of hairspray. All of this doesn't take me 5 minutes and usually it holds a whole night of salsa dancing. I like that look becuse it looks less austere as a tight bun.

delamusica
11-16-2004, 07:31 PM
Backpedaling quickly, that was a sarcastic comment referring to the rather sad fashion whereby many gorgeous brunettes feel the need to dye their hair blonde lest they be insufficiently sexy. You must remember that I live awfully close to the epicenter of the "blonde bimbo" phenomenon, it's endemic here to my chagrin. Not to even mention other kinds of, um, personal augmentation. (Where was it I read that there are more viewers of Baywatch in the world than Catholics? Telling, that is...)

So, back on track. Do you keep your hair in its natural colour? If not, why not?

My hair is naturally dark brown, but I've dyed it just about every color but blonde . . . black, natural-ish red, crayon-red, blue, green, purple, lighter brown, and various combinations of the above. Currently it's a nice sedate kind of light reddish-brown. :)

Considering my skin tone, dark brown eyebrows, and really not-blonde personality, I just don't see blonde in my future. :rocker: :)

clave
11-19-2004, 07:36 PM
crayon-red, blue, green, purple
:shock: I get the feeling you don't live in Utah... :twisted:

tacad
11-19-2004, 08:14 PM
Long hair is fun to play with. I get to brush it out of the way to get my hand on my partner's back, and of course I never succeed the first time so I have to do it 2 or 3 times. Sometimes there is not time so then I have to hold on to her back through the hair which requires extreme delicacy. Besides which I like the look!

Twilight_Elena
07-17-2006, 04:38 PM
Oh, wow. This is one cool thread. Oldie but goldie. :D
I'm growing my hair, want it to reach my waist. What I do with it so far (though it's only an inch below shoulder length and it's giving me a hard time) is make a very steady bun. I use LOTS of bobby pins, on a good day 12-15. I had my hair done for a showcase a couple of weeks ago and afterwards I took off all the bobby pins: we had used 59. :shock: It gave me one heck of a headache.
I recently heard of a new trick for buns if you have long hair: you braid your hair (not french braid, just a simple one) and then turn the braid round and round in a helix shape (using the previous elastic band as your centre) as tight as you can. Then you take a very tight scrunchie and tie it around it. I know someone who swears by it. Has anyone tried it?

T_E

PasoDancer
07-17-2006, 05:38 PM
I have, but my hair's frizzy- it'd work for any other hair but mine!

Twilight_Elena
07-17-2006, 05:56 PM
I have, but my hair's frizzy- it'd work for any other hair but mine!

Good point. The person that reccommended it has very straight hair.

T_E

waltzgirl
07-17-2006, 06:47 PM
Sorry if this is repeating a previous post, didn't have time to read all 13 pages:

At comps, I've seen Latin pros with very long hair braid a ponytail, then attach the braid to their costume.

Peaches
07-17-2006, 07:13 PM
Trying to keep this 'equal' and not directed at any DF members :D what about you ladies? Have you ever danced with a guy with a ponytail? Did it get in the way, like guys complain about ladies?



Hmmm...this thread got revived out of nowhere...

My AT teacher's hair is about as long as mine--somewhere between chin and shoulder length--and we have the same problems with it.

A couple of months ago we could pull it back but there were these pieces on the sides that wouldn't stay tucked in the elastic. It was kind of annoying in close embrace because it meant I kept getting pieces of hair poking me in the face--I hated it when it would tickle my nose or get in my eyes. There was nothing he could do about it that he wasn't already doing (tying it back). Although, one time he wore it down and I did have to ask him to pull it back--it was just RIGHT THERE in my face. Since he's taller than me, my hair wasn't a problem.

Now, though, our hair is getting longer and when we get into close embrace there's that moment of--position arm, damn! end of ponytail caught underneath arm, either pull head forward to free hair or reposition arm under the ponytail.

When I took a smooth lesson with him one time, my ponytail became a pretty effective way for him to correct/maintain my head position without having to move his right hand. He just grabbed and held onto my hair so that I had to keep my posture. Annoying, but it worked.