Do you or have any of you done exotic dancing?

[PiPod]

To my annoyance I found my boyfriend watching a napster commercial with a girl stripping but it gave me an idea. Stripping is a great way to learn how to make subtle body movements and build comfidence-if you can dance naked you can do anything- so has anybody tried exotic dancing?

[dTas]

there are strip aerobic classes, my wife has tried those and that has helped her dancing.

[Rosa]

I haven't done it myself, but the studio where I go for salsa has recently started pole-dancing classes. :)

Rosa

[fascination]

ya know...I just think some threads people such as myself must avoid at all costs;)

[Sabor]

i'd strip-dance.. if she pays

[GalacticDancer44M]

Have only done it at home. Hasn't everyone? :)

[fascination]

like I said.....

[Pathological Dancer]

If you ever need an audience...I promise to behave.

[fascination]

If you ever need an audience...I promise to behave.you people:rolleyes: :nope:

[mamboqueen]

hey a couple of margaritas and you never know what may happen :)

[DWise1]

I recall that a couple weeks ago on "Ballroom Bootcamp", one student seemed to be too out-of-touch with her body/femininity and so the female instructor had her do some exotic dancing lessons. Which did the trick.

Though I still do not understand what the pole is supposed to be about.

[fascination]

hey a couple of margaritas and you never know what may happen :)well...maybe for a gown...or a lesson pkg...everyone has thier price right?

btw...might have known you'd sniff this thread out and chime in posthaste..MQ(why cant I use laughing emoticon when I edit?)

[fascination]

Though I still do not understand what the pole is supposed to be about.come now, surely you jest...do you not recall the whole symbolism of the maypole sir?

[DWise1]

come now, surely you jest...do you not recall the whole symbolism of the maypole sir?

'Fraid not. Never been initiated into that mystery.
[note: reference is to the mystery religions; think Mark 4:11]

[fascination]

'Fraid not. Never been initiated into that mystery.
[note: reference is to the mystery religions; think Mark 4:11]ahem well....you are a bright guy....think fertility rights...nuf said....dont want a mo getting censored do you?

[leftfeetnyc]

I, on occasion take strip-tease and pole dance classes.

From strippers. (Who you gonna trust, Jane Doe instructor in the gym or the girl who hangs upside down from the pole nightly)

The pole is nothing more than a prop...a stationary partner if you will. It allows you to do some interesting things that are otherwise impossible...and I'm not talking dirty here. How many people have practiced ballroom with a sink edge or door frame? It's a whole different concept in connection and movement. Pole dancing also makes for an incredible work out and strength training. If I can get myself off the air, on my own with a pole, imagine how much better my lifts with my partners are when training for competitions....

As for learning strip-tease, it forces you to let go of inhibitions. There are certain dances and moves that require a great deal of sensuality (WCS dancers here) and taking these classes helps enhance that.

I don't view these classes as any different than taking bellydancing to work on body isolations or tap/jazz to improve my swing. The body moves in very specific ways and these classes whether formal or of the sexual variety are just different styling and usages that can be combined together later on.

[FTL]

Exotic dancing could possibly improve confidence but at the same time it could also shatter it. What if you get ignored despite baring (nearly)everything. I would assume that would be a blow to an exotic dancers ego.

[Spitfire]

Years ago, I and some other male co-workers were asked by one of our lady co-workers if we would be interested in being dancers at a bachelorette party.

[leftfeetnyc]

Exotic dancing could possibly improve confidence but at the same time it could also shatter it. What if you get ignored despite baring (nearly)everything. I would assume that would be a blow to an exotic dancers ego.

Depends on how you approach it. If you get out on a stage with no training...good chance of the shattered confidence.

If you take a class, that is not co-ed, that is designed as an instructional tool, chances are high that you'll be fine a learn a little something out of it.

Most women who take a class, be it an aerobic type class at Crush or a legitimate training class, are not doing it to be professional exotic dancers...they do it for the excersize aspect, they learn something about their bodies and how they move, and if they do a full on exotic dance for someone it's probably a lover or spouse and not a random person where the rejection factor can be high.

[DWise1]

ahem well....you are a bright guy....think fertility rights...nuf said....dont want a mo getting censored do you?

So then the whole thing is a ritual playing out a grand epic myth? And here I had always thought it was about the sleaze factor.

Though according to leftfeetnyc, it's just a balance bar (I think that's what they're called in ballet) set on its end. Though my question -- or rather musing -- was over what they do with it. Just curious (but not curious enough to go out and research it in the field). "Hanging upside down"? Hmm.


And even though I'm a guy, I do realize that women don't automatically move the way that they do, but they need to learn those moves (the natural talent is there, but it still needs to be developed). And getting over inhibitions is needed, as leftfeetnyc says. In West Coast class whenever the instructor (female) shows styling moves for the ladies (eg, body rolls and a hip roll she calls "scraping the peanut butter from the rim of the jar") most of the women start grumbling.

And if anyone's raising their eyebrows over learn styling from strippers, consider Edie Salsa Freak's suggestion that women learn styling and other feminine affectations from drag queens, who make a detailed study of what it takes to look and act feminine.

So many places to draw our inspiration from.

[fascination]

So then the whole thing is a ritual playing out a grand epic myth? And here I had always thought it was about the sleaze factor.

Though according to leftfeetnyc, it's just a balance bar (I think that's what they're called in ballet) set on its end. Though my question -- or rather musing -- was over what they do with it. Just curious (but not curious enough to go out and research it in the field). "Hanging upside down"? Hmm.


And even though I'm a guy, I do realize that women don't automatically move the way that they do, but they need to learn those moves (the natural talent is there, but it still needs to be developed). And getting over inhibitions is needed, as leftfeetnyc says. In West Coast class whenever the instructor (female) shows styling moves for the ladies (eg, body rolls and a hip roll she calls "scraping the peanut butter from the rim of the jar") most of the women start grumbling.

And if anyone's raising their eyebrows over learn styling from strippers, consider Edie Salsa Freak's suggestion that women learn styling and other feminine affectations from drag queens, who make a detailed study of what it takes to look and act feminine.

So many places to draw our inspiration from.hmmm...well I was just addressing the history of the symbolism of women dancing around poles...not casting aspersions on the motivations, varied as they might be, for those who now ploe dance...that is all...as for inhibitions...some need to get over them...some need to acquire a few...IMO

[PiPod]

I recall that a couple weeks ago on "Ballroom Bootcamp", one student seemed to be too out-of-touch with her body/femininity and so the female instructor had her do some exotic dancing lessons. Which did the trick.

Though I still do not understand what the pole is supposed to be about.
That sounds encouraging-I'm thinking that this might do the trick for me

[brujo]

well...maybe for a gown...or a lesson pkg...everyone has thier price right?


I would think that a gown would be the last thing to worry about in exotic dancing 8)

[pygmalion]

I have a feeling I may get censored. :lol: Won't be the first time. About the pole thingie, DW1, I suspect fascination is right. The whole maypole/fertility rite connection is probably there, even if it's not obvious. Societal memory is a powerful thing, IMO. Not to mention that a pole could be a ... <ahem> symbol. (See how I preemptively censor myself? :lol:)

That said, more power to the girls out there doing exotic dance, especially the ones learning exotic dance in order to tap into their inner dancer/divas. Way to go. I think that being a hottie, like DWise1 said, comes naturally to only a few. But almost anybody can learn it. So why not learn it? :cool:

[fascination]

I would think that a gown would be the last thing to worry about in exotic dancing 8)I said I would do it FOR a gown not IN a gown..silly man...but I did find a smoking hot red latin dress that I now have to make my pro choreograph a showcaes number for me to wear it in..NO POLE THOUGH...seriously thoug...almost anything anyone does in good faith to become a more sensual dancer or just a better dance has my respect

[DWise1]

I have a feeling I may get censored. :lol: Won't be the first time. About the pole thingie, DW1, I suspect fascination is right. The whole maypole/fertility rite connection is probably there, even if it's not obvious. Societal memory is a powerful thing, IMO. Not to mention that a pole could be a ... <ahem> symbol. (See how I preemptively censor myself? :lol:)

That said, more power to the girls out there doing exotic dance, especially the ones learning exotic dance in order to tap into their inner dancer/divas. Way to go. I think that being a hottie, like DWise1 said, comes naturally to only a few. But almost anybody can learn it. So why not learn it? :cool:

I'm not sure if anyone still remembers Joseph Campbell. Part of the power of myth (the name of Moyers' interviews with him) is the use of symbols and archetypes that our brains almost seem to be wired to recognize and respond to on a variety of deep levels. And from how I've seen "exotic dance" depicted, a lot of it draws on symbols and archetypes -- well, probably more on the level of common men's fantasies, but there might be some archetypes lurking there as well -- and a lot of the women's actions and men's reactions follow a kind of a ritual. The time I got dragged into one of those places -- I don't remember there being a pole, BTW -- I had no understanding of the rituals and so the whole thing was lost on me. (I think that part of the ritual is viewing the women as objects, which I cannot do because I only see people)

[brujo]

I'm not sure if anyone still remembers Joseph Campbell. Part of the power of myth (the name of Moyers' interviews with him) is the use of symbols and archetypes that our brains almost seem to be wired to recognize and respond to on a variety of deep levels. And from how I've seen "exotic dance" depicted, a lot of it draws on symbols and archetypes -- well, probably more on the level of common men's fantasies, but there might be some archetypes lurking there as well -- and a lot of the women's actions and men's reactions follow a kind of a ritual. The time I got dragged into one of those places -- I don't remember there being a pole, BTW -- I had no understanding of the rituals and so the whole thing was lost on me. (I think that part of the ritual is viewing the women as objects, which I cannot do because I only see people)

I am not quite sure about the women as objects part. I would say that 90% of the dances are just celebrations of fertility. Wasn't belly dancing a dance performed by women for women only?

Maybe I'm cynical, but I think a lot of it has to do with a Western, puritanical, victorian view of things. The church comes in and tries to get rid of anything that it considers sinful, so out goes the dancing, the orgies and the debauchery.

I don't see anything wrong with trying to be sexy and celebrate your body before gravity takes over. I think as long as there is a stigma about showing naughty bits, people ( men / women ) are going to pay to see those naughty bits unconvered.

[GalacticDancer44M]

The whole idea of a strip joint is for lust and fantasy. I don't think most of the strippers would object to being viewed as objects (while at their job). That only means that they're being successful at what they're doing. They're there to make money. They don't want a guy to fall in love with them (unless of course, you have Lots of money!)

[DWise1]

Maybe I'm cynical, but I think a lot of it has to do with a Western, puritanical, victorian view of things. The church comes in and tries to get rid of anything that it considers sinful, so out goes the dancing, the orgies and the debauchery.

In case you are about to be accused of making sweeping generalizations -- about church views of dancing, at least -- I have a real-life example. I have a number of friends in the singles ministry at a local Baptist church and I've participated in the dance classes they've been running. Turns out that they had to fight long and hard to get those dance classes -- we're talking partner dancing here, like swing and country. The pastors didn't like the idea of singles holding each other. Now that that hub-bub has settled down (as far as I know as an outsider), there have been some dances for the general ministry (the singles ministry has run a number of singles dances separately) at which the pastors only wanted line dances and no partner dances. They're worried about having married couples and singles dancing together. That's the truth; I swear to God and three other white men [old Redd Foxx joke I've been dying to use for decades].

There's a recurring joke that goes something like this:
There was a church that banned having sex while standing, because they were afraid that it might lead to dancing.
[It must be obvious, but it took me a while to realize the underlying message, that dancing would be considered worse than unconventional (read, "kinky") sexual practices.]

Apparently, it's no joke.

[Rosa]

The whole idea of a strip joint is for lust and fantasy. I don't think most of the strippers would object to being viewed as objects (while at their job). That only means that they're being successful at what they're doing. They're there to make money. They don't want a guy to fall in love with them (unless of course, you have Lots of money!)

If the girls are doing it completely voluntarily and choose to view it purely as a job, that's OK by me.

A long as that really is the case, and they aren't being subjected to any subtle coercion (psychological, emotional, or physical.)

Rosa :)

[Sabor]

to dance exotic.. one has to be an exotic

[Twilight_Elena]

Define exotic...;)

Twilight Elena

[chachachacat]

In case you are about to be accused of making sweeping generalizations -- about church views of dancing, at least -- I have a real-life example. I have a number of friends in the singles ministry at a local Baptist church and I've participated in the dance classes they've been running. Turns out that they had to fight long and hard to get those dance classes -- we're talking partner dancing here, like swing and country. The pastors didn't like the idea of singles holding each other. Now that that hub-bub has settled down (as far as I know as an outsider), there have been some dances for the general ministry (the singles ministry has run a number of singles dances separately) at which the pastors only wanted line dances and no partner dances. They're worried about having married couples and singles dancing together. That's the truth; I swear to God and three other white men [old Redd Foxx joke I've been dying to use for decades].

There's a recurring joke that goes something like this:
There was a church that banned having sex while standing, because they were afraid that it might lead to dancing.
[It must be obvious, but it took me a while to realize the underlying message, that dancing would be considered worse than unconventional (read, "kinky") sexual practices.]

Apparently, it's no joke. I taught a group class ECSwing at a Baptist Church. The pastor and his wife hired me and took the classes with the teens. The kids told me that joke.

[jon]

In case you are about to be accused of making sweeping generalizations -- about church views of dancing, at least -- I have a real-life example.

I don't see how providing a specific example of something serves to overcome objections about it being a sweeping generalization :-)

It depends. Baptists are generally seen as being down on dancing, yeah. Catholics are generally fine with it, I used to date a Catholic dance partner, dance at their Christmas social, which had a great jazz vocalist - their Jesuit priest was even out there line dancing :-), and taught a basic ballroom class offered through the church. Mormons appear to be entirely pro-dancing, what with BYU and such. Our swing dance society back in Chapel Hill started with dances held at the local Unitarian church. My square dance club held dances at a Protestant church while the contra dancers met in the basement of another Protestant church. Here in Silicon Valley, one ballroom dance used to be held in the Palo Alto YWCA (until it was sold last year), while across the parking lot, folk dancing was going on in another church, the English Country Dancers meet in another church in PA, etc., etc.

The number of dances sponsored by churches throughout the USA is actually rather large, and without use of their social halls, there would be a lot fewer dance opportunities, particularly in smaller towns and rural areas that don't have many buildings with dance floors.

I don't have any gripes about churches and dancing - and I speak as a zealous agnostic.

[Indiana_Jay]

In case you are about to be accused of making sweeping generalizations -- about church views of dancing, at least -- I have a real-life example.
I have one, too. An evangelical, independent, interdenominational Christian college here in Indiana prohibits students, staff and faculty members from engaging in social dancing on or away from campus. See http://www.taylor.edu/promise/ltc.htm.

[Indiana_Jay]

I have one, too. An evangelical, independent, interdenominational Christian college here in Indiana prohibits students, staff and faculty members from engaging in social dancing on or away from campus. See http://www.taylor.edu/promise/ltc.htm.
And, by the way, I offered the above information solely because I thought DF'ers would find it to be of interest. I do not intend to make any statement about the church and dancing in general. I think it is well known that views on that and many other topics vary widely from denomination to denomination and even from congregation to congregation.

Which reminds me of one of my favorite movies, "Monty Python's Life of Brian," in one scene of which the followers of Brian argue over the significance of a sandal that fell off Brian's foot! What a wonderful parody of the divisions that exist between Christians (and I'm one of them)!

Grace and Peace,

IJ

[jon]

I will say, though, that one of the most unusual social dance experiences I've ever had was the year I went to BYU dance camp when an LDS singles conference was going on at the same time. One of the singles events was an evening social dance. Since there are basically no opportunities to actually social dance during Ballroom Camp, a handful of us dressed up in our best and snuck over to Orem, where we apparently looked clean-cut enough to masquerade as Mormons and were allowed into the event. The dancing was fine, but that's the only adult dance I've ever been to with roaming floor proctors (presumably to make sure everybody left room for the baby Jesus, though I didn't see anyone get taken down for dancing too close), and ending with a closing prayer.

The other amusing aspect was accompanying my then-SO, the Catholic mentioned upthread, to church in Provo on Sunday, where the priest's homily included something to the effect of "and here in Utah, we Catholics know what it is to be a tiny minority" :-)

[DWise1]

I don't see how providing a specific example of something serves to overcome objections about it being a sweeping generalization :-)

It depends. Baptists are generally seen as being down on dancing, yeah. Catholics are generally fine with it, I used to date a Catholic dance partner, dance at their Christmas social, which had a great jazz vocalist - their Jesuit priest was even out there line dancing :-), and taught a basic ballroom class offered through the church. Mormons appear to be entirely pro-dancing, what with BYU and such. Our swing dance society back in Chapel Hill started with dances held at the local Unitarian church. My square dance club held dances at a Protestant church while the contra dancers met in the basement of another Protestant church. Here in Silicon Valley, one ballroom dance used to be held in the Palo Alto YWCA (until it was sold last year), while across the parking lot, folk dancing was going on in another church, the English Country Dancers meet in another church in PA, etc., etc.

The number of dances sponsored by churches throughout the USA is actually rather large, and without use of their social halls, there would be a lot fewer dance opportunities, particularly in smaller towns and rural areas that don't have many buildings with dance floors.

I don't have any gripes about churches and dancing - and I speak as a zealous agnostic.

The presentation of an example demonstrates that something does indeed exist or happens and was not just dreamed up.

Also, using the term "church" is ambiguous, because there are many churches and they are not unanimous in their views on dancing. If by "church" we mean a denomination or religion, then there again there are many of those too and again they are not unanimous in their views on dancing. Rather, the situation is that there are certain denominations that either officially or as part of their culture either frown upon or are apprehensive of or actually ban dancing.

Also, there are different kinds of dancing. Dancing was central to the Shakers ("Lord of the Dance" was a Shaker hymn) who got their name from their dance, but it was kind of a line dance with the men on one side of the room and the women on the other -- remember that the entire congregation practiced celibacy. Line dancing, English or Scottish country dancing, and square dancing are one thing, one which most church cultures would see nothing wrong with. Social dancing, with a couple holding each other -- an unmarried couple! or worse! a couple that married, but not to each other! -- is another thing altogether. But here again, it would be the churches whose culture frets too obsessively and dogmatically over male-female relationships and also does not understand about social dancing that would be frightened and up-tight about dancing.

BTW, Unitarian churches are at the opposite end of the spectrum from the choreophobic churches under discussion. Shortly after we had started learning to dance, we went to a Valentines Day dinner/dance held at our former minister's new church (UU, BTW). Not only did we do swing and a few other more modern dances, but there were also a few same-gender couples dancing -- no, they weren't just practicing the other role; those were their dates or their SOs). At the Baptist church I mentioned, when I've partnered with a guy to show him a particular move, we'd look around now and again to make sure we weren't freaking too many people out.

[jon]

The presentation of an example demonstrates that something does indeed exist or happens and was not just dreamed up.

The original assertion was a blanket condemnation of "the church" due to its "Western, puritanical, victorian" views. Well, guess what. There is no "the church", while there are many, many congregations and denominations that have no problem with the sorts of dancing we do, so the assertion is simply on its face bogus. Yes, there are a bunch of straitlaced people in certain churches. So and what? Have they prevented anyone in this thread from dancing, other than on their own property?

BTW, Unitarian churches are at the opposite end of the spectrum from the choreophobic churches under discussion.

Sure. Which is why they were only one of the numerous examples I provided of "choreophilic" churches. So far certain Baptists are the only example anyone has provided of the opposite.

[fascination]

okay now, let's all keep playing nice:bandit:

[jon]

Line dancing, English or Scottish country dancing, and square dancing are one thing, one which most church cultures would see nothing wrong with. Social dancing, with a couple holding each other -- an unmarried couple! or worse! a couple that married, but not to each other! -- is another thing altogether.

Contra and square dance both include partnered dances as well as set dances, including those scandalous waltzes - and you spend time holding just about everyone in the opposite role in the course of the set dancing, too. Watching experienced contra dancers flirt during a gypsy should be more than enough to drive an evangelical zealot into a frenzy :-) I don't know about ECD, haven't done enough of it.

[pygmalion]

Hmm...

I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian household, with a minister Dad, and I can still remember my surprise when I, as a seventh grader, met a fellow-seventh grade girl who wasn't allowed to play cards, wear pants, dance, date or a bunch of other things I was allowed to do. Generalizations don't work, in my experience, when it comes to religion. Every denomination -- every congregation, even, can be different, in my experience, when it comes to dance or anything else. *shrug*

That said, fascination is right. Let's play nice, if at all possible. This conversation is kinda why DF tries to stay away from religion (or even the lack thereof, a la athesim.) What's that saying? First, do no harm. *lol*

[fascination]

Hmm...

I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian household, with a minister Dad, and I can still remember my surprise when I, as a seventh grader, met a fellow-seventh grade girl who wasn't allowed to play cards, wear pants, dance, date or a bunch of other things I was allowed to do. Generalizations don't work, in my experience, when it comes to religion. Every denomination -- every congregation, even, can be different, in my experience, when it comes to dance or anything else. *shrug*

That said, fascination is right. Let's play nice, if at all possible. This conversation is kinda why DF tries to stay away from religion (or even the lack thereof, a la athesim.) What's that saying? First, do no harm. *lol*yep...especially b/c there are both positive and negative connotations to the same word in many theological terms...evangelist was once often used simply as a term for one who carries and shares the msg...I am afraid that many bad examples of that have now earned the term an unfair rap....just like many other terms that have been contorted over the years, including liberal and jihad and the list goes on and on and on...so its really best not to go there on this sort of forum much beyond what well-intentioned good people have already contributed;)

[DWise1]

The original assertion was a blanket condemnation of "the church" due to its "Western, puritanical, victorian" views. Well, guess what. There is no "the church", while there are many, many congregations and denominations that have no problem with the sorts of dancing we do, so the assertion is simply on its face bogus. Yes, there are a bunch of straitlaced people in certain churches. So and what? Have they prevented anyone in this thread from dancing, other than on their own property?



Sure. Which is why they were only one of the numerous examples I provided of "choreophilic" churches. So far certain Baptists are the only example anyone has provided of the opposite.

Please note that:
1. I am not the one who used that term, "the church".
2. I distinctly pointed out that there are many different churches (whether you mean that as "congregation" or as "denomination") with many different views on a large number of things, including dancing.
3. Even though many individual churches have no problem with dancing and even promote it actively, there are still those individual churches that oppose dancing. It would be false to claim that no churches do it, just as it would be false to claim that all churches do it.
4. While I cannot speak for anyone else on this thread, but it is false to say that "a bunch of straitlaced people in certain churches" have not "prevented [anyone] from dancing, other than on their own property". Indiana_Jay informed us of "An evangelical, independent, interdenominational Christian college here in Indiana prohibits students, staff and faculty members from engaging in social dancing on or away from campus". I would suspect that those people affected by that college's ban would have bought into that ban and hold beliefs that support the reasoning behind that ban and so would be very unlikely to frequent this forum. I mean, I certainly cannot see someone who feels passionately about dancing being able to be a part of that college. At least not for very long.

I do not believe these restrictions to be directly due to theology, but rather due to certain social attitudes and prejudices and misconceptions that inevitably infuse themselves in the religious culture of a congregation, such that members are certain that the Bible supports those ideas, whether it actually does or not. I believe that it is ignorance of and prejudice about dancing, rather than religion, that is really behind their opposition to dancing. Or more likely, the ignorance and prejudice of their religious leaders whom the congregation has put in a position of authority to set the attitude towards dancing in the congregation's culture.

Nor is such ignorance and prejudice restricted to churches. Many members of the public are also ignorant of dancing and hold many of the same misconceptions and prejudices about it.

For example, one Lindy lady I know once expressed her being fed up with all the guys who, upon hearing that she dances, ask what club she strips at.

Which, I believe, brings us back on topic.

[pygmalion]

:D Yes! Back to topic. Nope. I've never done exotic dance, but , needless to say, now I'm thinking about it.

Anybody (Prof. Pole are you still around?) how does one find a reputable dance studio that teaches erotic dance? (Emphasis on reputable. :lol:)

[DWise1]

:D Yes! Back to topic. Nope. I've never done exotic dance, but , needless to say, now I'm thinking about it.

Anybody (Prof. Pole are you still around?) how does one find a reputable dance studio that teaches erotic dance? (Emphasis on reputable. :lol:)
Ever hear of Google?

I Google'd on dallas exotic dance instruction and the first hit was on a nation-wide franchise, "The Art of Exotic Dancing for Everyday Women", the Texas page being at http://www.artofexoticdancing.com/classes/texas.htm. They say that if you have ComCast video-on-demand, you'll find them under "Fitness". "Please don't forget your oversized button-down shirt and a pair of high heels."

A similar local (Orange County) class was at Avant Garde, the ballroom where I've been taking Lindy and some salsa, though the class was called "Sexercise". However, when I Google'd on dallas sexercise I got a lot of much more colorful hits that I didn't dare click on with my good computer.

[pygmalion]

Ever hear of Google? :shock: Blasphemy! :lol:

I Google'd on dallas exotic dance instruction and the first hit was on a nation-wide franchise, "The Art of Exotic Dancing for Everyday Women", the Texas page being at http://www.artofexoticdancing.com/classes/texas.htm. They say that if you have ComCast video-on-demand, you'll find them under "Fitness". "Please don't forget your oversized button-down shirt and a pair of high heels."

Oh Lordy! I'm dangerous now. :wink:

However, when I Google'd on dallas sexercise I got a lot of much more colorful hits that I didn't dare click on with my good computer. :lol:

[Medira]

:D Yes! Back to topic. Nope. I've never done exotic dance, but , needless to say, now I'm thinking about it.

Anybody (Prof. Pole are you still around?) how does one find a reputable dance studio that teaches erotic dance? (Emphasis on reputable. :lol:)
Why not toss a PM in Prof. Pole's direction and point her to this thread?