Super Sweaty

[alorafhs]

I was just wondering........what do you do when your dancing with a guy and he is hella sweaty? I was dancing with this one guy and we did a dip and literally a few drops of sweat fell on me. It was so gross. Or when your dancing with them and they are so wet that you can see wet spots where they touched you?

Maybe I just know really sweaty guys I dont know but I like dancing with them obviously I just don't like being grossed out.

Any suggestions?

[Sagitta]

hmm...I remember some threads on this topic. Have you tried using our search function on this topic?

[hepcat]

Well, I used to be really self concious about being very sweaty. It could be 50 degrees (F) in the hall, but I'd be sweaty after 3 songs. It's been that way as long as I can remember. I eat healthy. I work out. I shower every day (sometimes multiple times). It's just the way my body is. Being self concious about it, I bring 4 or 5 shirts to each dance and change frequently. I always warn a follow if I ever want to Bal with them and will usually only bal for a few songs after I've put on a fresh shirt. The response I always get is "Oh don't worry about it! Come 'ere!". I still will mention being sweaty before asking a girl to Bal, but I'm not so self concious about it anymore. No one here seems to mind (although if I smelled on top of that, it would probably be a different story).

I can't remember exactly what gave me the idea to start bringing multiple shirts. I think it was another guy I'd met at a lindy exchange who was also a sweaty guy like me who I'd seen in a different shirt and I'd asked him about it. But it was really learning Bal that probably influenced me to do that regularly. If you can bring it up without hurting his feelings, I'd suggest the multiple shirt idea or even a hand towel (although I usually use paper towels in the bathroom at the dances I go to). In fact, one girl I'd met at an exchange had paper towels in her purse and offerred me one.

I have met a couple girls who sweat almost as much as I do, so it's not only guys. If he doesn't smell, then I'd suggest first and foremost - try not to let it bother you. Then if you feel he's self concious about it, mention that some other copious sweaters you've heard of bring multiple shirts to dances. In fact, this might work... one thing that really got me to be diligent about bringing extra shirts was once when I did Bal with this one girl (who I'd warned before-hand and who didn't mind). We separated after the song and the whole front of her shirt was all wet. I was really embarrassed. I'd appologized, but she really didn't care. She thought it was funny. But I've been good about bringing extra shirts ever since. If he had an experience like that, it might influence him to do something about it. Of course, that would involve the sacrifice of an innocent follow. ;)

[Sagitta]

Most dancers that I know don't mind a little sweat if it isn't smelly. ;-)

[genEus]

Probably way too many threads on this topic but -- as a guy, I usually bring a couple extra shirts and will wear an a-shirt so that it absorbs the sweat. I also think that when the guy is soaking wet it's a bit gross for the follower, so I don't let myself soak. Of course, a little sweat should be expected, though. As long as when you put put your hand on his shoulder it doesn't slip, should be ok. ;)

[fascination]

Most dancers that I know don't mind a little sweat if it isn't smelly. ;-)precisely..in fact...ahem...don't mind it at all....:cool:

[fascination]

btw...it is a fact that the more fit one is the sooner and more copiously one will sweat b/c the body is aware that it is going to exert itself and is accustomed to cooling itself appropriately...and as long as good hygeine is in play I say , whats the big deal?...I am one seriously big time sweat girl and there is not a thing I can do about it...I work out five days a week and dance another 8 hours a week...I'm just gonna sweat

[Ellis]

It goes both ways! If you put your hand on a followers drippin wet back, it is just as off-putting! But face it - everyone's gonna sweat - I think it would happen if we were dancing in the normal T-shirt outdoors in the middle of winter!

[OneCentSalsero]

If he's a friend tell him, dude bring a couple of t-shirts and a towel.

[Rosa]

I've said this before on DF - the scent of fresh, honestly-come-by sweat is OK. It can even be exciting, not to mention erotic. :cool:

But stale sweat's a bummer! :evil:

Rosa :)

[OneCentSalsero]

It goes both ways! If you put your hand on a followers drippin wet back, it is just as off-putting!

Followers dripping wet back is a good thing.

[alorafhs]

No I know a lil sweat is ok. I dont even mind sweaty. Its just when they are REALLY sweaty. I mean of course were gonna get somewhat wet. We are exercising ya know? It shows were really working it and hey nothing beats working up a good sweat. I just don't like being literally dripped on. There is a line there. I mean if I was super sweaty where I felt self consious I would take a breather.

Hmm the extra shirts in a good idea.

[BugBear]

My father has told me this. When he was a teenager he was in a dance goup(Bulgarian national dances). And during practice and shows the other dancers would accuse of him of faking. Why? Cos all of them were dripping wet and he had barely broken a sweat. And - long live genetics - I don't sweat as much as others. Maybe beeing a little bit underweight(for my height that is) helps.
Personally I don't mind a little sweat at all. It's absolutely normal. What I don't like is cold, sticky sweat. I think you know what I mean.

[Josh]

Previous topic...

http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=9004

As I said in that thread, I feel cheated if I don't leave a dance event pretty heavily sweating... it's one of the pleasures of dancing...!

[hepcat]

I just don't like being literally dripped on. There is a line there. I mean if I was super sweaty where I felt self consious I would take a breather.

If I took a breather every time I dripped (i.e. if I wasn't wiping it off), I'd be sitting out more than dancing. The amount you're sweating is not directly correlated to how out of breath you are and I should know because I have asthma. I rarely drip on a partner mainly because I've learned to wipe at strategic times during a dance. If the light's just right after a song when I'm walking away, you can literally see numerous drops on the floor where I was dancing (although they've typically dripped off my hand after wiping). You just have to figure out where, when, and how to wipe sweat while dancing (even after wiping down with a towel between dances). I'll usually do it quickly while leading a spin so that the follow doesn't see. I also make sure to dry my hand before reconnecting. I'm lucky that I don't live in a humid area. I danced once in St. Louis and it was SO hot and humid there, the sweat was literally flowing off my forehead without even dancing. If I went by your comment about taking a breather when being that sweaty, I never would have danced that night at all, so I take exception to the presence of a "line". Super sweaty people exist and there's nothing they can do to stop sweating. All they can do is mitigate it by changing, toweling, & wiping. Sitting out's not going to change that. We don't want to sweat so much, but we can't help it. You should be more understanding. After all, it's harmless.

I'm sure that if a guy noticed he dripped on you, he'd feel bad about it. I know I would. That's why I'm careful. I don't even lean over the DJ's CDs! Yet still, even (despite my best efforts) when I do end up dripping on a follow (which rarely happens to me anymore) and apologize, no one I've ever met cares. They just smile and say don't worry about it. Even once when I'd expressed how I was self concious about being sweaty, the girl rubbed herself all over me so that I wouldn't be self concious!

You know, there have been super sweaty people I've met who tell me they didn't used to sweat like that. It just all of a sudden started a few years into dancing. Be careful you're not inviting some bad karma. It'll come around and bite you in the ass!

One other thing. Re-sweating in clothes that have been sweat in before and sat around for at least a day is a big no-no. Even if it smells fine when it's dry, once it becomes sweaty again, it will start to stink. Sweating on old sweat causes a pretty bad odor. If odor is a problem with this guy, yet he claims to shower regularly, you might mention this little fact.

Hepcat

[Twilight_Elena]

There's good sweat and bad sweat. Some guys sweat and I swoon. Other sweat and I want to puke. For some bizarre reason, the guys I like, hang out with, am sexually attracted to, or have a positive aura about them are the guys i don't mind sweating. Sleazy, slimy, sorta :raisebro: looking guys kill me when they sweat. I'm betting my woolly socks it's psychological.
And even if it's not. Guys, bring 2-3 extra t-shirts with you (pretty much all of my male teachers change t-shirts at least once at each practice party). Drink water. Use deodorant.
Oh, and something I have noticed. Why is it that beginners sweat more? Is their body not used to the excercise? Perhaps... :idea:

Twilight Elena

[Lucretia]

There's good sweat and bad sweat. Some guys sweat and I swoon. Other sweat and I want to puke.
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Oh, and something I have noticed. Why is it that beginners sweat more? Is their body not used to the excercise? Perhaps... :idea:

I agree. I found most sweat on the dancefloor like salt water. A natural way to cope with the excercise. Only a few times I feel bad about it. Mostly when there are guys I don't like so very much. The sweatiest one (can you say so) is a old man at age 57. I don't feel sexually attracted at all - but he is such a nice and friendly man so it is worth every dance and every drop of sweat I get from him :lol:

I think newbies sweat much more because it is a greater challenge for them to dance. The actually burn more energy to manage to dance. When the body & mind has got used to dancing it doesn't take that much effort to do it. You are more relaxed.

Bad sweat is the kind you get when you are under stress. The one that smells awful and is full of bad smelling chemicals & hormones. The sweat on the dancefloor almost never smell. I think it is good to keep those kind of sweats separated. It is not the same stuff!

/luc

[BugBear]

Even once when I'd expressed how I was self concious about being sweaty, the girl rubbed herself all over me so that I wouldn't be self concious!
I should try that. Maybe I can get the same result ;)
I'm betting my woolly socks it's psychological
Maybe I'm miss-speling it, but I think it is cos of the feromones.

[SDsalsaguy]

Oh, and something I have noticed. Why is it that beginners sweat more? Is their body not used to the excercise? Perhaps...
Not exactly. It's often because they actually need to work much harder physically to acomplish the same type of thing as a more advanced dancer. As one becomes more adept, proper technique actually does a lot of the work that beginers exert effort to "muscle" their way through.

[Rosa]

I think newbies sweat much more because it is a greater challenge for them to dance. The actually burn more energy to manage to dance. When the body & mind has got used to dancing it doesn't take that much effort to do it. You are more relaxed.

Bad sweat is the kind you get when you are under stress. The one that smells awful and is full of bad smelling chemicals & hormones. The sweat on the dancefloor almost never smell. I think it is good to keep those kind of sweats separated. It is not the same stuff!

/luc

That's an interesting distinction. I never thought about that before, but now that you say it, it does seem logical.

Also it makes sense that newbies could well sweat more out of nerves, as well as unaccustomed physical exertion.

Rosa :)

[hepcat]

Not exactly. It's often because they actually need to work much harder physically to acomplish the same type of thing as a more advanced dancer. As one becomes more adept, proper technique actually does a lot of the work that beginers exert effort to "muscle" their way through.

I like the logic. Unfortunately, I don't find it to be true in practice, but of course, this could be the difference between salsa and swing. I'm all about minimizing energy when I dance, yet I still sweat profusely. And many of the "super sweaty" people I've met are also advanced dancers. I haven't observed any correlation between level of skill/experience and sweat. I've been dancing since '98 and even perform on stage, yet I and my fellow advanced dancers (to varying degrees) sweat like pigs. And it doesn't seem to have anything to do with our bodies being used to the exertion or not either. But again, this could simply be associated with the type of dance. Salsa seems to inherently take much less energy than say lindy or charleston (depending somewhat on the speed of the music).

[alemana]

the more in shape i am, the more readily i begin to sweat when i work out and/or dance. it's as if my body understands that the crank has been cranked and an hour or two of exertion is on the way, so it starts to sweat.

it could also be that the more advanced i become, the higher my rate of exertion from the *onset* of the workout/dance.. so i'm actually working harder from the start gun than i did as a beginner.

[Sabor]

they pay me to sweat .. kinda like an autograph thing..
women are wierd..

[borikensalsero]

I like the logic. Unfortunately, I don't find it to be true in practice, but of course, this could be the difference between salsa and swing. I'm all about minimizing energy when I dance, yet I still sweat profusely. And many of the "super sweaty" people I've met are also advanced dancers. I haven't observed any correlation between level of skill/experience and sweat. I've been dancing since '98 and even perform on stage, yet I and my fellow advanced dancers (to varying degrees) sweat like pigs. And it doesn't seem to have anything to do with our bodies being used to the exertion or not either. But again, this could simply be associated with the type of dance. Salsa seems to inherently take much less energy than say lindy or charleston (depending somewhat on the speed of the music).

Think of it this way.
Let’s say you don't know how to dance salsa. You decided to go out on night and dance. The mere fact that you are no longer under normal conditions (knowing how to dance) affects the body. It increases mind and body exertion, directly affecting your body's reaction to the extra work. Your body must consume more energy in order to sustain the extra workload applied by not knowing how to dance, plus the stress your mind will be under trying to assimilate a new task. Now it's time for your body to cool all that extra work, how does it do that? By sweating more… Your body will need to assimilate to the new task before your muscles begin to do less work, that doesn't happen until you learn more technique, therefore, causing you to sweat less. That your fit body's natural reaction to workload (dancing advanced swing) is to sweat faster, can't be taken into account, because at this point it will be sweating even more simply because it is working harder (trying to dance advance in something it isn’t).

The more efficient the movement the less effort exerted by the body, hence, less needed cooling. He is pointing out rules of physics. If we compare other people to other people and sweat we'll miss the point.

I can sum up SDs post by saying that the more work a person has to do to accomplish a task, the greater the consumption of energy. Therefore, the body, when compared to itself, under exactly the same fitness conditions and exactly the same external stimuli, will react with an increase cooling mechanism. Now you take that fact into account when comparing, and you can see why his statement will always be correct, even if when in practice we seemingly see something else. Seemingly because we've neglected to look at the thousand other variables affecting sweat, even before noticing the extra work our own body is under.

Example:
Standing under the stress of the sun causes the body to react, where as under the moon is less stressfull, therefore less sweat.

[hepcat]

I don't disagree with the physics borikensalsero. I'm just saying that the relationship between skill and sweating should not be interpretted as "advanced dancers don't sweat". I agree the more skill I have will reduce the relative amount I sweat, but I believe that contribution to be negligible and is overwhelmed by (in this case) doing fast lindy or charleston. No amount of skill will significantly reduce the amount one sweats when doing these kinds of dances. What I think has a more drastic affect is one's own metabolism. The exertion can be minimized to a degree with increased skill, but the overall ammount of exertion will still outweigh any amount gotten back from increased skill. If excess energy can be converted into work by one's metabolism (in this case the subclass of anabolism), it becomes a heat sink, thus one requires less sweat to be cooled. I think this factor allows any dancer to sweat less than another person who exerts the same effort. And I believe that the ammount of sweat is influenced more by biology than skill. The type of dance influences the ammount of exertion required. Any less energy required due to higher skill is negligible in this regard. Otherwise, skilled dancers wouldn't sweat. Since some sweat more than others at similar skill levels, I believe biology plays a bigger role. Who's to say that the body isn't overreacting due to their own metabolism or some gene mutation and over-cooling the dancer.

By the way, I'm a biochemist.

Hepcat

[SDsalsaguy]

Thanks boriken... hadn't had the chance to get back to this yeat, but that's eactly right. The key is "all other factors being equal," which is rarely, if ever, the case. Great to "see" you by the way! :)

[Kindra]

they pay me to sweat .. kinda like an autograph thing..
women are wierd..


Hilarious.

[borikensalsero]

I don't disagree with the physics borikensalsero. I'm just saying that the relationship between skill and sweating should not be interpretted as "advanced dancers don't sweat". I agree the more skill I have will reduce the relative amount I sweat, but I believe that contribution to be negligible and is overwhelmed by (in this case) doing fast lindy or charleston. No amount of skill will significantly reduce the amount one sweats when doing these kinds of dances. What I think has a more drastic affect is one's own metabolism. The exertion can be minimized to a degree with increased skill, but the overall ammount of exertion will still outweigh any amount gotten back from increased skill. If excess energy can be converted into work by one's metabolism (in this case the subclass of anabolism), it becomes a heat sink, thus one requires less sweat to be cooled. I think this factor allows any dancer to sweat less than another person who exerts the same effort. And I believe that the ammount of sweat is influenced more by biology than skill. The type of dance influences the ammount of exertion required. Any less energy required due to higher skill is negligible in this regard. Otherwise, skilled dancers wouldn't sweat. Since some sweat more than others at similar skill levels, I believe biology plays a bigger role. Who's to say that the body isn't overreacting due to their own metabolism or some gene mutation and over-cooling the dancer.

By the way, I'm a biochemist.

Hepcat
Thank you for that post, intersting read!

Totally agree, when I was a newbie, my dance instructor used to say. Advanced dancers don't sweat. No I find out that he was a liar.

Yes, there comes a point were exertion is too great and the body simply reacts. At that point, I agree, skill can not diminish sweat.

I compare skill to a hexagon ball and a smooth ball. Throw them down a mountain and when they get to the bottom, touch them both, and test which one is hotter. The smooth ball will never be hotter. It rolled too nicely. The exertion on it wasn't as great as that of the hexagon ball. To cool the hexagon ball more water will be needed, than to cool the smooth one. To equal the exertion of the hexagon ball, the smooth ball must increase workload. It must double, if not triple workload to get at the same level of exertion as the hexagon ball. That is where I believe skill becomes much more than a negligible asset. At the point where demand hasn't overwhelmed the body, and where skill is too great to allow the body to spend itself in too short a period. Ultimately informing biology that it does not need to over-react by sweating more than it should.

Indeed, biology is the source and skill and aid to trigger (exertion). However, the amount of sweat will be relative to the demand on the body. The more you dance, the more you’ll sweat. The better you do it, the less demand on biology.

Yes, skill doesn’t negate effort. It only influences the amount of required energy to complete a task, the more efficient the technique, the more efficient the consumption of energy, therefore, prolonging potential energy and make skill more than just negligible. Sweat is directly influenced by the amount of heat. The amount of sweat allowed by the body is up to biology (you can’t give more than you are allowed), but heat caused by effort acts as the trigger that tells the body to start sweating. If there is no effort, there is no sweat.

To me, skill influences how the dance is done, hence the effort, directly influencing required energy. Only at a threshold point does skill become negligible in regards to its influence on exertion, and exertions demand to cool itself, therefore metabolism and other factors commence of aid.

Who knows! You’ve made a compelling thought that perhaps a mutating gene is over cooling a person and causing them to sweat more.

[SurfSalsa]

I think there are two additional points to consider here:

1) We discuss skill level vs sweat, but nowhere do we bring into the equation the variable "what we are doing". An advanced dancer may be sweating much less than a newbie when doing basic steps and a few CBLs and open-breaks, but that is not what advanced dancers do... you are doing intricate combos, double-spins, dips, etc... often with syncopated steps, etc., so you are doing 50 times more work at double or tripple the pace, even though per-step you may doing it 20 times more effort-effectively.
2) Maybe our resident biochemist Hepcat can tell us what is the effect of adrenalin on sweat-volume. Hell I mean some dances you get such a thrill when you get the breaks right, or when there is a good connection, or when you really get in on the music, that your adrenalin must be pumping at 100 times their normal volume... surely that must affect sweat volume too? (And maybe there are some other similar materials also increasing that I don't know the names of - that same stuff that gave you that nervous sweaty-palms feeling when you kissed the first girl/boy - there may some of that stuff also maybe playing a lesser role...)

What I hate is in a class situation, and typically it happens if you do the intermediate class followed by the advanced class, and then the advanced routine has a comb in, where you have to comb yourself with the followers hand, which you have to do 50 times with 20 different followers, and you know you're sopping wet... then I always try and short-cut/avoid/circumvent the comb... or that duck-down hook-turn thingy where you come up from a hammerlock right between the follower's hands/arms...

[englezul]

I agree. I found most sweat on the dancefloor like salt water. A natural way to cope with the excercise. Only a few times I feel bad about it. Mostly when there are guys I don't like so very much. The sweatiest one (can you say so) is a old man at age 57. I don't feel sexually attracted at all - but he is such a nice and friendly man so it is worth every dance and every drop of sweat I get from him :lol:

I think newbies sweat much more because it is a greater challenge for them to dance. The actually burn more energy to manage to dance. When the body & mind has got used to dancing it doesn't take that much effort to do it. You are more relaxed.

Bad sweat is the kind you get when you are under stress. The one that smells awful and is full of bad smelling chemicals & hormones. The sweat on the dancefloor almost never smell. I think it is good to keep those kind of sweats separated. It is not the same stuff!

/luc

Sweat does not smell. It's the bacteria that lives on our skin (and in higher concentration in the hairy areas) and feeds on the sweat compounds that cause the foul smell. What deodorants do is kill these bacteria in high percentages. The actual pleasant smell is just bonus.

<Rant begin>
People who smell on the dance floor are people who are not taking care of themselves. I feel completely disgusted when someone is dancing close to me and the stench surrounds me and my partener. There is no excuse to it. The smell = bad hygene. Dance or no dance proper body hygene before going out is a must.
<Rant end>

For the dripping factor I have a lot of friends who just bring a bunch of clean t-shirts and change whenever is the case. They never smell.

[hepcat]

smell = bad hygene

Yup. You got it. Bad hygene. They don't even necessarily have to appear sweaty to stink either.

The few bacteria that make it past the deodorant and get onto a shirt of a hygenic non-smelling person is why sweating on a shirt that has old dried sweat on it stinks. The bacteria have multiplied overnight (or however long it dries/sits) and are waiting for fresh evaporating sweat to release their odor.

Although I'm not sure deodorant kills bacteria rather than mask the smell. I don't know. I haven't looked at the ingredients. There are odorless deodorants, so I'll bet you're right. Although perhaps it's the drying which inhibits the bacteria.

You know, I HAVE noticed that the stinkers are usually girls who don't shave their armpits. I don't shave my armpits of course, but I shower frequently and always use deodorant. If there's ever a time when I start to notice a personal odor (i.e. if I miss a couple days without showering for one reason or another), sometimes it will take over a week of religous showering to totally eliminate it. I'll usually refrain from dancing during that time or else wash right before the dance (which helps for a short time).

-Hepcat

[salsera_alemana]

Interesting thread!

I agree with hepcat that biology has a lot to do with the amounts of sweat one releases while dancing. Of course, it is only one aspect.

It takes me at least half an hour of non-stop dancing before my body even considers to start sweating a tiny little bit. And my husband is the opposite, after 3 dances he starts dripping and is constantly wiping his face with his towel. He cannot go out without a towel. And both of us make the same effort dancing and we dance the same number of songs in the same environment with the same temperature. In air-conditioned clubs I have to dance the first dances with my jacket on because I am an ice block. I hate those super cold dance clubs because it takes me a few dances in a row (with "frozen" limbs) to get my body to normal temperature, forget about sweating. My husband, on the other hand, never minds cold clubs because he can dance without sweating and he is never cold.

When I start sweating while dancing that means I have a super duper great dance night with non-stop dancing and GREAT music.

Cannot remember the last time that happened ...

[BrookeErin]

I don't have a lot to add after 4 pages.... I don't mind dancing with sweaty men (again with the smell v. sweat thing). I'm usually a bit damp myself after an evening of dancing. However, someone else's sweat on my face is kind of icky. I generally just avoid the cheek-to-cheek stuff. However, I also have it on good authority that men love it when a woman will wipe the sweat off of his face while dancing, so if I have a good relationship with the man and we'll be dancing close, I may opt for that move and make us both more comfortable.

[It's Wonderful]

Wipe with your bare hand? Or a hanky? I like the idea, but bare hand - ermmm.... And I don't carry a handkerchief.

[hepcat]

Ha! That's great. I've never heard of that happening before, but yeah, I can imagine that that would impress me. I myself don't like the cheek to cheek thing when I'm sweaty. It's gross, even considering it's my own clean sweat. There's one follow that often does the cheek to cheek thing with me. I try to avoid it, but there's not much I can do in a balboa connection if she's determined to get cheek to cheek.

This brings up another issue. Some girls are HOT, and I don't mean sexy. I mean physically hot, as if they're running a fever. I will actively try to avoid close connections with these follows, especially if I know a song is a long one. I don't know if it's what they're wearing, whether it's just them, or maybe they actually do have a fever. It can't be hot flashes due to menopause. They're too young for that. Maybe they're turned on??? They don't even appear to sweat! What's up with that? Have any follows noticed any HOT guys?

-Hepcat

[BrookeErin]

Yes, my hand. I'd rather have it on my hand than my face and I can always wipe it on my attire or his as needed. It's really nothing, but imagine a guys reaction to me wiping his sweaty face with my hands and then wiping it on his shirt (i.e., running my hands down his chest). I've only really done that with a very good friend; you won't catch me doing that to anyone I don't know. A woman needs a variety of rarely used moves in her repetoire to be used only on special occasions

[africana]

:shock: :o
wow the dancing would have to be at a considerably low level i.e exceedingly boring moves lacking imagination or creativity for me to consider wiping off a man's sweat-drenched brow with my bare hands not matter how cute. gee what a sexy move :arrow: eww grossss!!!
but maybe people need more stuff to entertain themselves with when they don't know a lot of moves. I have never seen/heard such a thing, and I've danced everywhere worth dancing in (with exception of europe, but I hope to change that soon!!! :)

[Sagitta]

There's always something new when you don't expect it a. ;-)

[Twilight_Elena]

This brings up another issue. Some girls are HOT, and I don't mean sexy. I mean physically hot, as if they're running a fever. I will actively try to avoid close connections with these follows, especially if I know a song is a long one. I don't know if it's what they're wearing, whether it's just them, or maybe they actually do have a fever. It can't be hot flashes due to menopause. They're too young for that. Maybe they're turned on??? They don't even appear to sweat! What's up with that? Have any follows noticed any HOT guys?

I consider it natural. My (female) teacher sometimes feels like she's burning with fever. I also know of a male teacher who is occasionally very hot (temperature, people!). But isn't it natural? Some people sweat. Some don't. Some people get hot. Some don't.

Twilight Elena

[africana]

There's always something new when you don't expect it a. ;-)
I suppose you're right I'm getting old lol