DWTS - Week 8 - Spoilers

[SPratt74]

Lol... I saw your post T_E, so I thought I would go ahead and start it since I'm wide awake and full of energy lol. So, everything regarding week 8 DWTS goes here. Have fun everyone! ;)

[Twilight_Elena]

Thanks, Spratt. :D
I want Joey to go next. I still find him very stiff in his moves. Monique is doing great (if only they gave them real MUSIC!) but I'm afraid she'll go next. Then again, she's the only woman. We'll see how they do...
Anyone know what they're dancing next?

T_E

[SPratt74]

Thanks, Spratt. :D
I want Joey to go next. I still find him very stiff in his moves. Monique is doing great (if only they gave them real MUSIC!) but I'm afraid she'll go next. Then again, she's the only woman. We'll see how they do...
Anyone know what they're dancing next?

T_E

Monique I'm afraid will have to really work hard to beat the men, but Louis I think is really gaining a lot of fans for the little things that he does for them (has anyone seen his latest blog)! I can see Joey going next. I was afraid of that though, because I really like Joey. But those two have been in the bottom two though the most. I don't think that anyone else has that's left have they? It would be neat if they could pull forward and just show everyone, but it might be to late for that. Although, if Emmit wins that will be hilarious, because that will be one that no one will expect. I love Emmit though, but I'm afraid he'll end up in the bottom two one of these days! But at least if anything at all everyone that is left deserves to be there no matter how you might feel about them like I mean if they aren't your favorite etc. That's what I like about this season the most I think, because I haven't felt this way before while watching DWTS.

[Twilight_Elena]

Mario seems pretty safe.

T_E

[SPratt74]

Mario seems pretty safe.

T_E

You would think, but we thought Stacey was safe too until Drew came in from behind and won the whole thing. But that's what makes the show exciting though lol! It would be boring if we knew how the outcome was going to be lol. ;)

[Twilight_Elena]

You would think, but we thought Stacey was safe too until Drew came in from behind and won the whole thing. But that's what makes the show exciting though lol! It would be boring if we knew how the outcome was going to be lol. ;)

Weeell. I saw a couple of Stacy's dances and I just didn't like them. The girl had cool legs, but that was pretty much it. No flavour at ALL. At least Drew had a bit of a thing. Not that I liked him either, actually. *hides*
Anyways. Mario has IT. And if he keeps working hard enough, he'll win this gig. If he slacks... he'll be slaughtered.

T_E

[SPratt74]

Weeell. I saw a couple of Stacy's dances and I just didn't like them. The girl had cool legs, but that was pretty much it. No flavour at ALL. At least Drew had a bit of a thing. Not that I liked him either, actually. *hides*
Anyways. Mario has IT. And if he keeps working hard enough, he'll win this gig. If he slacks... he'll be slaughtered.

T_E

Really? See now I liked both Stacey and Drew. I liked Drew better just because he was sooooo grateful about everything kind of like Joey is this season. You can really tell that they are enjoying themselves in other words. I mean not that the others aren't, but they express themselves more with gratitude than some of the others. Maybe I'm not saying that right lol. But anyways, we still have what three weeks left right and anything can happen I guess at this point! I mean the women might all want to start voting for Monique lol, I don't know. It's fun. Do you know what dances they are doing this week?

[White Chacha]

You would think, but we thought Stacey was safe too until Drew came in from behind and won the whole thing. But that's what makes the show exciting though lol! It would be boring if we knew how the outcome was going to be lol. ;)

Part of me thinks that Stacey went away because she wasn't
a family person. You know, husband and kids at home and
all that. I don't know. It's just like politics. Something
completely irrelevant can distract the voting public from the
real prize...

But it's all just good fun, so let's enjoy it. I have to say that
the first season had much more meaning to me, maybe because
I'd actually taken lessons from one of the pros.

[SPratt74]

Part of me thinks that Stacey went away because she wasn't
a family person. You know, husband and kids at home and
all that. I don't know. It's just like politics. Something
completely irrelevant can distract the voting public from the
real prize...

I didn't even think about that. I think that at the end that Stacey just gave up once Drew started getting 10's. I think that for some people that either motivates them to work harder or some give up completely and I think that Stacey just gave up completely.

But it's all just good fun, so let's enjoy it. I have to say that
the first season had much more meaning to me, maybe because
I'd actually taken lessons from one of the pros.

See, I had met Drew and his brother Nick when they came to my city a few years back. So, I kind of favored last season more than anything else. I also had seen Joey in concert though when I was a kid, and he comes to my city for some reason a lot now. Well, not a lot but more than most. So, it was neat to see both guys on there. I have never met Joey though, so it wasn't as personal as seeing Drew again. That was incredibly cool for me, so I understand what you mean by when you see someone that you know on there that it becomes more personal. Oh and I have emailed Louis and he's written back personally and he completely acknowledged everything that I had said and put everything into his own words, because that's the kind of person he is. And I only did that because someone dared me to (not mentioning any names lol). So, ok I favor Louis now too, because he put a personal touch in his email as well lol! ;)

[Purr]

Anyways. Mario has IT. And if he keeps working hard enough, he'll win this gig. If he slacks... he'll be slaughtered.

T_E

He does? Mario doesn't do much for me.

[Twilight_Elena]

He does? Mario doesn't do much for me.

Maybe I'm too distracted by Karina. :oops:

T_E

[victordancer]

Emmitt has Cheryl and she knows how to choreograph the dances in order to make the couple look good and has won it before. I think he also may have the largest fan base and his recent performances may have won him some more fans including me. While i think Karina is spectacular, sometimes its too much about her and not enough about Mario who does have the moves.

[Purr]

Maybe I'm too distracted by Karina. :oops:

T_E

Karina is great. For example, I really liked her performance in the rumba routine she and Mario danced. But in that dance, I didn't think Mario contributed a whole lot to the routine, while Kario did all those fantastic moves around him. I would have like to have seen him dancing more, doing something, and actually leading her.

But that's just my opinion.

[Purr]

While i think Karina is spectacular, sometimes its too much about her and not enough about Mario who does have the moves.

Exactly.

[yanka]

I agree. I feel like Mario could do more but doesn't. I don't know if it's the ADD, the pressure, the fact that Karina's so good that they think he can cruise by on her...whatever it is, he just doesn't seem to put in as much effort as the others. On the same note, I think what he does [technically] is way below what the others accomplish: proper footwork, leading, frame, body movement, connection, etc.
I mean, the judges flat out said that his standard had no heal leads, and he still got good scores. Unlike Jerry, who showed tremendous improvement since the show started, Mario didn't seem to grow at all in the time he's been here

[alemana]

he's been able to coast on the ability level he had going into the comp.... and he also does a much better job projecting "ease" in his face than most of the celebs do. so even if he IS trying, he doesn't show it. contrast that to someone like Monique, who radiates effort.

[fenixx]

I thought it was going to be a competition between Joey and Mario. From the beginning, Mario has lived up to my expectation, but Joey has fallen short many times throughout the show. My real surprise is Emmitt. I can't believe his ease. He is the best "dancer" on the show, meaning he lets it flow better than anyone out there. Mario is the most "talented dancesport competitior" on the floor every week; no one on the show can produce the level of technique nor can anyone else execute the complex patterns karina makes him perform.

I dont know how the show will turn out, but I do think it will come down to Mario and Emmitt. I think Karina can learn from Cheryl (really from the people who choreograph Cheryl's routines - note: this is not hearsay; I have spoken to Cheryl and the people who help her create some of her routines) and sacrifice the competition quality of the choreography and infuse more ease to soften Mario. That would allow Mario to look in control and less frenzied on the floor.

[waltzgirl]

I agree. I think that was what Cheryl was referring to when she said Emmitt dances like every man wishes he could. I'd say E dances like a very good social dancer, while Mario dances like a pretty good dancesport dancer.

That's not meant as a comparison of quality, just of style. I do both, and on a Friday night, I'd rather dance with Emmitt.

[Joe]

I mean, the judges flat out said that his standard had no heal leads, and he still got good scores.
IMO, there's been some serious score inflation as the season has gone on.

[My Ox Is Broken]

IMO, there's been some serious score inflation as the season has gone on.They started the season scoring too high, and now the judges have backed themselves into a corner. The range of scores for the dances tonight is probably going to be 27-30. The judges have made themselves into a total non-factor in the competition.

[Purr]

That's not meant as a comparison of quality, just of style. I do both, and on a Friday night, I'd rather dance with Emmitt.

If I had to choose betwen Mario and Emmitt, I'd rather dance with Emmitt too.

[CaribSalsera]

If I had to choose betwen Mario and Emmitt, I'd rather dance with Emmitt too.

Me three!

(Wouldn't mind spending a song looking at Mario's dimples though...lol)

[Another Elizabeth]

I just got an email saying that Victor and Anna will be performing tomorrow night on the results show.

[Ithink]

That's awesome news! Love V&A! I might actually have to watch this DWTS recording on my TiVo, as opposed to all of the previous weeks' shows which I've yet to see...

[yanka]

I just got an email saying that Victor and Anna will be performing tomorrow night on the results show.

I hope the music won't kill it. :finger's crossed for good music:

[Another Elizabeth]

I hope the music won't kill it. :finger's crossed for good music:

I hope they actually show the whole thing, and don't intersperse it with pictures of some aging rocker's gut.

[SDsalsaguy]

I hope they actually show the whole thing, and don't intersperse it with pictures of some aging rocker's gut.
I hope so too but I doubt it, especially as there is no reason to think that DWTS would be changing SOP at this particular time.

[Ralph]

To answer the question about what they're dancing: http://rbc-dancing.tripod.com/

I'm so afraid that Louis will undergo the same fate as last year. Last year he also got eliminated just before the final (undeserved). The week beofre he was in the bottom two (just like this year) with the funny older guy (see the connection :p).

[swan]

I hope they actually show the whole thing, and don't intersperse it with pictures of some aging rocker's gut.

Well, at least this time they got a real World Class standard couple performing! We haven't had any top pros performing (as a couple) in DWTS showing off what standard is about.

The closest was Charlotte/Nick (but it was very little standard, more smooth).

[SPratt74]

To answer the question about what they're dancing: http://rbc-dancing.tripod.com/

I'm so afraid that Louis will undergo the same fate as last year. Last year he also got eliminated just before the final (undeserved). The week beofre he was in the bottom two (just like this year) with the funny older guy (see the connection :p).

Do you think that they would dare let the only woman that's left go like that? I think that would cause a controversey.

[alemana]

yeah, i think she's toast this week.

[SPratt74]

yeah, i think she's toast this week.

Well, it's either going to be Monique or Joey if they can't get the audience votes this week. They both have been in the bottom two more than anyone else. So, my guess is that they are the next two to go. I'm not so sure about what order though.

[clemcr]

IF the judges don't step up and score the couples on their actual dancing as opposed to the entertainment scores they have been giving, then the audiance's popularity score will determine who goes and who stays. As I see it, the judges are more concerned with not having the studio audiance boo them than they are with actually scoring the dance elements of the routines. This is clearly evident if you go back and look at the comments of the judges and scores from the first season. The judges have sold out this season and it is purely a popularity contest. It is sad.

[waltzgirl]

I think they are also trying to avoid the controversy of the first season. By leaving it up to the audience, they aren't to blame for the outcome.

SYTYCD was at least honest about it. They always called it a contest for "America's Favorite Dancer," not the "best" dancer.

[clemcr]

wg,
Then ABC should be honest with everyone and just let the judges comment but not vote. I wonder if the judges get any pressure from the producers to "act nice and score high". Just thoughts of mine, lol.

[LXC]

Well, at least this time they got a real World Class standard couple performing! We haven't had any top pros performing (as a couple) in DWTS showing off what standard is about.

The closest was Charlotte/Nick (but it was very little standard, more smooth).

exactly

[SPratt74]

I think they are also trying to avoid the controversy of the first season. By leaving it up to the audience, they aren't to blame for the outcome.

Hmm... I think that ABC has improved since season 1, but there will always be controversy on that show. I think that in order for them not to say there is any controversy is to say it's not a real dance competition, because we all know (as dancers I should say) that it's not. That's what gets me irritated. But that's also one of the reasons why I don't vote.

SYTYCD was at least honest about it. They always called it a contest for "America's Favorite Dancer," not the "best" dancer.

I like that idea too! I think that if DWTS was more honest with the viewers that at least they'd have the respect that they want instead of having to fight for it every season.

[SlowDancer]

Hi! I'm new to the forums. Bubbling over with excitement about tonight's DWTS...the cats are fed, I've got on my flannel jammies, getting ready to heat up some leftover pizza...it just doesn't get any better than this!

I'm thinking Joey will be eliminated this week.

[love2swing]

Yeah, I'm thinking Joey or Monique too...

[SlowDancer]

Woohoo...I guess the black lipstick on Monique is because it's Halloween?

[SPratt74]

Hmm... I don't know how I feel about Joey's Tango lol, but it looked like fun! ;)

[My Ox Is Broken]

Oh God...a Tango to the Addams Family Theme song?! I couldn't wait for it to end just because of the song.

Scores...10,9,9

[SPratt74]

Oh God...a Tango to the Addams Family Theme song?! I couldn't wait for it to end just because of the song.

Scores...10,9,9

I think that if they used a different version of the song that it would have been ok. But they did well given what they had. ;)

[love2swing]

I love this song!

[love2swing]

And again, a severe lack of heel leads

[DancePoet]

Joey's tango didn't impress me.

[SPratt74]

Either I am really tired or I'm not being impressed at all.

[DancePoet]

Mario's performance was strong, except for a lack of heel leads, and thus it was missing something up top anyway. Being on his toes it looked similar ot ballet instead of waltz.

[SPratt74]

Goodness of course Mario gets a ten to stay on top with Joey. I don't think that either of them should have scored so high. I would have given 8's and 7's.

[love2swing]

Out of the two so far, I think Mario should have had the better scores. I think that the scores are fitting, however, with the score the judges have been giving out all season.

[My Ox Is Broken]

Mario's performance was strong, except for a lack of heel leads, and thus it was missing something up top anyway. Being on his toes it looked similar ot ballet instead of waltz.
Thanks for mentioning that.

[ChelD]

I don't understand how Carrie Ann could give Joey's tango a higher score than Mario's waltz. Neither one was perfect (I don't expect them to be), but I thought the waltz was certainly equal if not better.

[DancePoet]

Is it me, or does the dark red corset that Samantha is wearing only connected at the top and bottom :?: :?: :?:

[mamboqueen]

frantic tango!

[DancePoet]

Out of the two so far, I think Mario should have had the better scores. I think that the scores are fitting, however, with the score the judges have been giving out all season.
I'm feeling like the judges have really wimped out this season and are letting the audiences vote determine the outcome.

[SPratt74]

I'm feeling like the judges have really wimped out this season and are letting the audiences vote determine the outcome.

I agree with you. I'm not liking these comments.

[ChelD]

Wow. The judges are being awfully hard on Monique. Only criticisms, nothing positive at all.

[DancePoet]

Seemed like Monique was being pulled through the performance, which caused her to look like she was stretching rather then dancing. Louis seemed to be trying to take her to a level she isn't quite capable of, and so things looked less then very good.

[SlowDancer]

Louis is not one bit happy with the judges' comments...but for once, I have to agree with them. The choreography was way too busy. Maybe she'll redeem herself in the Latin round.

[SPratt74]

Wow. The judges are being awfully hard on Monique. Only criticisms, nothing positive at all.

Yeah I guess they want the guys to stay in after all. I'm sort of mad about all of that, because I know how difficult some of those moves are.

[ArtsySalsera]

I know I'm posting late on this one but why does Samantha pick on Mario's reaction to the judges scoring on his dancing. She said, "Looks like you're mourning your scores". That's not the first time she's made a comment like that on his reaction to his scores and other little things and she doesn't do that with anyone else. He is asserts himself back with her but Geeze what is her problem with him?

[My Ox Is Broken]

I see the judges' point, to a degree. It would be nice to see Monique dominate a slightly easier routine, so she could be more easily compared to the others.

[love2swing]

Yeah I guess they want the guys to stay in after all. I'm sort of mad about all of that, because I know how difficult some of those moves are.

That's the thing though-- Louie needs to remember that he's working with someone with limited experience and limited time to learn a routine. It's admirable that he's pushing her, but he needs to remember that an easier routine done really really well looks much better than a more complex routine done just "ok."

[SPratt74]

I'm dreading listening to the scores, but at least they weren't that low.

[DancePoet]

At this point I'd give Joey and Mario an 8, Monique a 7.

[SPratt74]

That's the thing though-- Louie needs to remember that he's working with someone with limited experience and limited time to learn a routine. It's admirable that he's pushing her, but he needs to remember that an easier routine done really really well looks much better than a more complex routine done ok.

The judges said that they expected the dancers to be top notch at the beginning of the season, because they were given more time to practice etc. (in fact I think it was Len). That's what Louis is doing, and the judges are scoring high on dances that should not be given nine's and ten's. But again this is why I don't vote, because they did this during season 1 and 2 as well, and it became frustrating.

[mamboqueen]

Nice foxtrot...

[love2swing]

The judges said that they expected the dancers to be top notch at the beginning of the season, because they were given more time to practice etc. (in fact I think it was Len). That's what Louis is doing, and the judges are scoring high on dances that should not be given nine's and ten's. But again this is why I don't vote, because they did this during season 1 and 2 as well, and it became frustrating.


This is true, yes. But, you can still look (and be) top notch without doing something that is way beyond your ability and seriously hurts your chances of making it to the next round. Out of the three dancers so far, Monique has looked the least polished. Louis should take a page from Cheryl-- Monique has so much talent to work with, and there's so much he could do with her, he just needs to know when to stop pushing for "something that's hard for even pros to do."

[SPratt74]

The judges said that they expected the dancers to be top notch at the beginning of the season, because they were given more time to practice etc. (in fact I think it was Len). That's what Louis is doing, and the judges are scoring high on dances that should not be given nine's and ten's. But again this is why I don't vote, because they did this during season 1 and 2 as well, and it became frustrating.

Sorry I didn't mean for that to sound the way it did lol. It just kind of gets frustrating when the judges say one thing then actually judge on the one thing they say not to do lol. ;)

[SPratt74]

This is true, yes. But, you can still look (and be) top notch without doing something that is way beyond your ability and seriously hurts your chances of making it to the next round. Out of the three dancers so far, Monique has looked the least polished. Louis should take a page from Cheryl-- Monique has so much talent to work with, and there's so much he could do with her, he just needs to know when to stop pushing for "something that's hard for even pros to do."

See I was thinking that Mario looked the least polished. Monique can do things that Mario so far either can't or hasn't tried to do. I'm impressed with Monique, because of that. ;)

[ChelD]

Isn't foxtrot assigned the American Smooth style for this season? Why is Len going on about dance hold?

[DancePoet]

Emmit's foxtrot was very good, except he did seem to break hold in the middle of his routine which is a big no no in this competition.

However, the dance seemed better then any of the other three.

[love2swing]

Emmit's foxtrot was very good, except he did seem to break hold in the middle of his routine which is a big no no in this competition.

However, the dance seemed better then any of the other three.

No, no..you're forgetting the rules. It's only a no-no if Len decides it is at that particular point in time. :D

[Bradamant]

Isn't foxtrot assigned the American Smooth style for this season? Why is Len going on about dance hold?


He's always been biased. Grrr.

However, I might actually agree with him in this case. I was watching it on Raphael's site streaming so I can't be sure since it jumped and skipped a bit. From what I did see, I could have used a bit more closed work.

Having said that, I ADORE Emmitt. i don't even know why. His dancing and smiling make me happy.

[bluehatter]

Emmit's foxtrot was very good, except he did seem to break hold in the middle of his routine which is a big no no in this competition.

However, the dance seemed better then any of the other three.

Well, last week I think Joey spent maybe 10 seconds in any kind of foxtrot hold and still got 10s and 9s. The judges are just a mess this season.

[anp73ga31]

They have yet to be consistent in their scoring from week to week. They drive me BATTY! lol!

[love2swing]

Ok....are they trying to boot Joey? This music is beyond horrible.

He has gotten two horrible songs.

[Bradamant]

Ok....are they trying to boot Joey? This music is beyond horrible.

My thoughts exactly.

[mamboqueen]

This has to be the worst paso song they've had.....Mick Jagger would jump into a coffin if he heard this...

[mamboqueen]

Bring back Duran Duran!

[ChelD]

I agree. Horrible paso music.

[DancePoet]

No, no..you're forgetting the rules. It's only a no-no if Len decides it is at that particular point in time. :D
:lol:

Len is Len, DP is DP. ;)

[SPratt74]

I just love Joey. I love his personality, and I never cared for him when I was younger. I have a whole new respect for him whether or not he wins this competition. What a great and classy guy!

[DancePoet]

The Rolling Stones do Paso music? Since when?

Oh, right, since the music is being chosen by some ... !&!*^ ... on DWTS. :lol:

[My Ox Is Broken]

Joey got screwed by his songs this week. But Edyta's naughty pirate queen outfit was great.

I think Monique was wearing a gray jumpsuit -- a Ghostbusters' uniform perhaps?

[DancePoet]

Joey did look like he was doing Paso, and it did seem better then his tango ... so how about a 9?

DP's scores so far :

Joey ... 8 and 9
Mario ... 8
Monique ... 7
Emmit ... 8

[mamboqueen]

Can we vote Samantha off?

[mamboqueen]

Love the wig!

[mamboqueen]

Karina did her job! Faboo :)

[DancePoet]

Mario's Samba might have been the best dance of the night so far.

Yet it almost looked like he was wearing small knee pads.

[SPratt74]

I didn't like Mario's dance. I'm just not liking the dances tonight.

[mamboqueen]

Funny joke about the "sugar crash"...so going on in my house right now!

[DancePoet]

Can we vote Samantha off?
For her conversation or her corset that looks like it hasn't been done up correctly?

[DancePoet]

Funny joke about the "sugar crash"...so going on in my house right now!
Having homemade popcorn, but not a single trick or treater to be seen.

[mamboqueen]

For her conversation or her corset that looks like it hasn't been done up correctly?

conversation....didn't notice her corset.

[ArtsySalsera]

What is Len smoking?

[SPratt74]

Having homemade popcorn, but not a single trick or treater to be seen.

That's the best though because then you get to keep all of the candy lol! :p

[mamboqueen]

Having homemade popcorn, but not a single trick or treater to be seen.

My son got a package of microwave popcorn in his trick-or-treat bag. Always interesting to see what they bring in. No Juicy Fruits in either bag...major disappointment for me!

[DancePoet]

conversation....didn't notice her corset.
I'd vote her off for both.

[SPratt74]

Of course Mario got high scores again. Go figure.

[ChelD]

ughhh

[mamboqueen]

Good for Monique!

[SPratt74]

Loved Monique! Awesome! Finally an awesome dance (in my opinion lol)! ;)

[DancePoet]

My son got a package of microwave popcorn in his trick-or-treat bag. Always interesting to see what they bring in. No Juicy Fruits in either bag...major disappointment for me!
The SO's son had trick or treating on Sunday afternoon, and frankly got nothing interesting to me. What ever happened to the good ole stuff? :roll:

[anp73ga31]

I feel like I'm betraying my favorite(Louis), but I just dont like Monique's dancing! I dont know if its her facial expression or what...I didn't like either dance tonight. They were just too hurried or something...

I can honestly say that for the first time, I actually liked Mario and Karina's samba the best, followed closely by Emmitt's foxtrot. :(

[DancePoet]

Much better from Monique ... maybe even a 9. :shock:

[mamboqueen]

The SO's son had trick or treating on Sunday afternoon, and frankly got nothing interesting to me. What ever happened to the good ole stuff? :roll:

My kids are way tooooooo quiet in their rooms. I better go confiscate the goodies...

[bluehatter]

Much better from Monique ... maybe even a 9. :shock:

I'm sitting here laughing because I don't know whether you are being serious or facetious. I'm not laughing at you, but at the situation. That dance from any of the top boys would get a 10 no question. But since it's Monique, we have to see what the judges feel like doing.

[DancePoet]

DP's scores so far :

Joey ... 8 and 9
Mario ... 8 and 9
Monique ... 7 and 9
Emmit ... 8 and ... we shall see.

[SPratt74]

My kids are way tooooooo quiet in their rooms. I better go confiscate the goodies...

Hahahaha... they'll be up all night!!! I hope you are prepared for that lol! ;)

[SPratt74]

That dance from any of the top boys would get a 10 no question. But since it's Monique, we have to see what the judges feel like doing.

I very much agree with you! I couldn't have said that better myself actually (but I would have said all 10's especially if it were Mario lol, ok, don't shoot, I had to throw that in lol). ;)

[My Ox Is Broken]

My kids are way tooooooo quiet in their rooms. I better go confiscate the goodies...
Send the goodies my way. I don't have kids, and Halloween candy doesn't taste as good if you had to pay for it yourself.

Next week -- 90 minutes, 6 dances. Samatha's interviews are gonna have to be twice as long to fill up the time. Now THAT'S scary.

[DancePoet]

I'd say Emmit's dance was as close to a ten without quite getting there.

[DancePoet]

My kids are way tooooooo quiet in their rooms. I better go confiscate the goodies...
Maybe they are watching dancing with the stars? :lol:

[skwiggy]

Emmit was fabulous! And Cheryl's choreography was brilliant as always.

[SPratt74]

Emmit was fabulous! And Cheryl's choreography was brilliant as always.

Yes Emmit was amazing, and to me his Rumba was the best dance of the night. ;)

[anp73ga31]

Well my guess is Monique goes home tomorrow, but I could be wrong.

And fyi, for those that haven't heard yet, the star that is coming back to sing on the results show is Willa Ford (she said it in a myspace bulletin recently).

[DancePoet]

Cheryl seems to be able to create choreography that works at her partner's skill level, and she doesn't seem to dance above her partner either.

[ChaChaMama]

How gorgeous was Cheryl's costume for that rumba?!? Cheryl always looks wonderful, but that white number wins my vote for outfit I would personally most like to try on.

Great number too! (I'd call that song a cha-cha, but hey...that doesn't even make the list of musical crimes this season.)

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Wild-eyed conspiracy theorist moment, but...Do you think Carrie Ann was forced to score Joey higher than Mario? I otherwise can't understand why she would mark Joey's tango higher than Mario's waltz. Joey was entertaining, but he didn't get down into his knees enough, and his tango just wasn't stalk-y. Mario's waltz wasn't perfect, but it was awfully good. He turns with surprising ease for a guy without dance training.

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Notably, Mario/Karina's music has sucked less than that of some of the other contestants, especially Louis/Monique. (I will also add that this week Joey's paso song was up there with the very worst.) My personal theory is that either Karina has it written in her contract "Ms. Smirnoff will not be forced to dance to any sucky songs" OR that when they give her a crummy song, she goes in there, smacks the tape down, and says "This is crap" in a severe accent. She then fixes them with her best paso stare until the production people cower before her obvious awesomeness and give her a somewhat more acceptable song.

ChaChaMama

[love2swing]

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Notably, Mario/Karina's music has sucked less than that of some of the other contestants, especially Louis/Monique. (I will also add that this week Joey's paso song was up there with the very worst.) My personal theory is that either Karina has it written in her contract "Ms. Smirnoff will not be forced to dance to any sucky songs" OR that when they give her a crummy song, she goes in there, smacks the tape down, and says "This is crap" in a severe accent. She then fixes them with her best paso stare until the production people cower before her obvious awesomeness and give her a somewhat more acceptable song.

ChaChaMama

I like this theory. In my mind, this is now how they get the music.

Ah, Karina.

[waltzgirl]

Who decided Monique should wear a latin costume for tango? What a bad idea! I replayed it, blocking out the area between her hips and feet with my thumb. It looked a lot better. The Groucho Marx semi-squat necessary for tango just isn't an attractive way to present bare legs.

[Ralph]

Am I they only one, or do you also think the judges are losing it this season. From the beginning the have been overscoring Mario and Emmitt and underscoring Monique and Louis (especially last week and the week where Mario did the Mambo). They are giving way to much tens. For example: last week Joey and Mario both danced a Slow Foxtrot without heel leads. How in earth can you give 10 - 9 - 10 for a Slowfox without heel leads? You shouldn't get any higher than 8's if you don't have heel leads. The same goes for Joey's Tango with his 10 - 9 -9. Again: no higher then 8's if you don't do the heel leads!

Btw I don't know who said it anymore, but I agree to the fact we should be able to vote off Samantha, boy she's annoying.

[Purr]

My two cents worth, for the best dances for the night:

Emmitt & Cheryl's foxtrot; great choreography; good execution by Emmitt; song was actually a foxtrot; loved Cheryl's dress!

Joey & Edyta's tango; again, great choreography appropriate for The Adam's Family; very entertaining; liked Joey's fangs

[Sunshines Partner]

Emmit was fabulous! And Cheryl's choreography was brilliant as always.

You have to do more the move your hips a little and stand there. This was Emmit's worst performance of the series.

[yanka]

my dvr apparently couldn't handle its normal Tuesday night load, so all I got was Emmit's foxtrot and Joey's paso. grrr. Hopefully MOIB has the dances up...

needless to say, I didn't vote.

[mamboqueen]

You have to do more the move your hips a little and stand there. This was Emmit's worst performance of the series.

I think Cheryl and Karina get my votes as best choreographers (Louis was up there until last night; I think he just went a bit over Monique's head). Cheryl is probably #1 for me, though because I think she keeps it simple enough and I find myself looking at both dancers; with Karina, I'm looking at her. The few times I did look at him, I noticed he had stopped moving his feet and was trying to guide her along. I am going to be studying Cheryl's rumba for days! Masterful!

[Pam]

Who decided Monique should wear a latin costume for tango? What a bad idea! ... The Groucho Marx semi-squat necessary for tango just isn't an attractive way to present bare legs.

Ditto, what a shame, the whole time I was thinking that she would have looked so much better with a more appropriate dress on.

I was really hoping for her to come on strong last night but, it seems like the girl has so much stacked against her, questionable music, more complex choreography, and then on top of it all the dress choices.

And she's working so hard too...

[My Ox Is Broken]

I think Cheryl and Karina get my votes as best choreographers (Louis was up there until last night; I think he just went a bit over Monique's head). Cheryl is probably #1 for me, though because I think she keeps it simple enough and I find myself looking at both dancers; with Karina, I'm looking at her. The few times I did look at him, I noticed he had stopped moving his feet and was trying to guide her along. I am going to be studying Cheryl's rumba for days! Masterful!
Thanks for confirming my uninformed opinion. Cheryl has done the best job choreographing to her partner's strengths. It would be interesting to see how she does with a Jerry Springer or George Hamilton type.

It seems like Karina is choreographing to win, even if it means having Mario just stand around so that she can look good (which she does). Louis is also choreographing to win, but he's making Monique do an equal amount of work and she can't keep up. Then again, it would be weird if Louis was flouncing around all over the place while Monique just stood there.

The vids are up at MOIB (http://www.myoxisbroken.com/moibArticle.asp?optArticleID=250), including a clear shot of Cheryl putting her hand on "Little Emmitt" during the Rumba.

Who are Victor and Anna, the couple who will be dancing on tonight's show? Any links?

[El Hombre]

I thought the best dance was the Samba by Karina and Mario. Yes, she's so fabulous that's hard not to look at her... but he's very talented and is doind an amazing job!!

Emmit's was ok, but too basic for me. He just did a few cucarachas, basic steps and lines. Of course, he looks more natural... he doesnt have the stress of trying to do something very difficult or different... but I agree that he has good rhythm... but I wanted to see more.

Monique is talented, but I agree with the judges. It's all over her heard and Louis is such a wonderful dancer that overpowers her. I hated the Cha more than the tango. I found her very off balance all the time, a lot ot oooops and didnt you guys see that he fell on top of her at the end. They recover quickly but instead of appreciating their performance/talent I find myself worried that something is going to go wrong! I think she's very talented is just that I havent had the chance to appreciate it.

I hope Joey and Mario are the finalist since those are the performances I'm always looking forward to watch!!

[DancerForLife]

Who are Victor and Anna, the couple who will be dancing on tonight's show? Any links?

Victor and Anna are absolutely fabulous professional standard dancers. They are regular semifinalists at all major Professional World Standard events, and are 2nd in the United States.

Victor is a long-time, multiple amateur standard champion who won the title with two of his sisters and multiple other partners too. He danced with Tiffany Fung, Aira Bubnelyte, Ieva Pauksena, Liene Apale among others...

Anna is a wonderful dancer, I don't know quite as much about her as about Victor.

They are based out of Los Angeles, but spend a lot of time in England. They are not only great dancers, they are great people too. Their show to Beethoven's 5th brings tears to my eyes every time I see it - it is sooo good...

Here are some pictures: http://www.dancesportinfo.net/DisplayGallery.aspx?coupleId=15482

I'm very much looking forward to their show!!!

[My Ox Is Broken]

Thanks for the info. I've never seen them dance, so I'm really looking forward to it.

I wish they brought in more professional couples to perform (like they did last season), instead of trotting out those anonymous dancers who did the disco demo.

[swan]

Victor and Anna are absolutely fabulous professional standard dancers. They are regular semifinalists at all major Professional World Standard events, and are 2nd in the United States.

Ya - they landed in the World Professional championship twice in a row - 2005 & 2006 (just few weeks ago).


I'm very much looking forward to their show!!!

Me too! I echoed your comment that they are wonderful (very modest) people & great teachers.

[SPratt74]

Hey I've got a question. Has Karina and Mario done the Samba twice now? Why do I think that they have done the Samba already before last night?

[and123]

including a clear shot of Cheryl putting her hand on "Little Emmitt" during the Rumba.


Heh. I was wondering if anyone else noticed that ;) Looked like he was wearing boxers too (thank god). Can't hide much in white pants :shock:

re: Mario, he did indeed have heel leads in his basic steps. Much of it was swoopy Open Smooth work though, and while perhaps he was a tad too high on his toes on some of that, the overall softness was lovely. Didn't much care for the heavy eyeliner though ;) I really felt like Mario had lost his spirit after the judges ripped him a new one for his "illegal" Tango a few weeks ago, and was being too cautious and closed in his dancing. Last night he was BACK, and I was thrilled to see that. Glad to learn that it doesn't all come easy to him. Ms. Karina is quite the harsh mistress! Apparently it works for Mario though, much as he gripes about it. As for Joey, both of the routines were a little too weird for me to really focus on his dancing, but the Tango looked too choppy/bouncy and not stalk-y enough. Other posters have already said what I felt about Monique's Tango -- *not* attractive, and not cleanly executed. Clearly she's trying her damndest though, so I give her full credit for that.

[ArtsySalsera]

Hey I've got a question. Has Karina and Mario done the Samba twice now? Why do I think that they have done the Samba already before last night? Karina did Samba when she danced with the other 3 pros and Lionel Ritchie sang. That was 2 weeks ago I believe.

I'm liking the both of them better now that Mario has toned down
beating up the others and doing his own thing so much. This is just what it felt like to me.

[victordancer]

You have to do more the move your hips a little and stand there. This was Emmit's worst performance of the series.

While i agree that the routine was not complicated, i thought that emmitt's technique and hip movement(on the opening outs) were actually good international style(straight legs) and surprised me as i thought the rhumba would be his worst dance. i would like to see more softness in his hands and arm movement. I am still voting for him but did think that mario's performances were the best last night.

[mamboqueen]

I thought Emmitt was actually very soft in the upper body and arms, at least compared to Mario who seems really tense...but I'm going to go dig back and try to find Mario's rumba.

And I would like to order Cheryl's dress....in turquoise, please ;)

[mamboqueen]

Okay I looked at Mario's rumba again and still prefer Emmitt's.

The judges gave C&E 29 and M&K 27 on their rumbas, but then again, they weren't dancing them head-to-head.

[fascination]

Ya - they landed in the World Professional championship twice in a row - 2005 & 2006 (just few weeks ago).



Me too! I echoed your comment that they are wonderful (very modest) people & great teachers.tritto..they are dolls

[alemana]

i just watched the perfs from last night...

i HATE HATE HATE that waltz they gave to karina - every time i hear it at a comp (which is OVER AND OVER) i have a conniption - but i loved their dance so much, i totally forgot how much i loathe that music. they TOTALLY convinced me. totally.


and her samba... i never looked at mario ONCE.

emmitt surprised me with the body action in the rumba. i mean ok, he's not going to win any championships anytime soon, but for a manly man of his age to work the hips like that - i really give him props, and moreso to cheryl, who has emerged as the most consistently brilliant partner-coach-choreographer of the entire American series of DWTS thus far.

i liked Edyta's tango, which suprised me. Emmitt's foxtrot - also great.

[skwiggy]

You have to do more the move your hips a little and stand there. This was Emmit's worst performance of the series.

What about move your hips with the best basic ballroom technique of any of the celebs all season while executing very clean basic syllabus material? And doing so while looking comfortable and natural? Meanwhile showing a clear connection to your partner and the audience? And being most fortunately backed by some simplistically brilliant choreography and a fantastic lady on your arm? Because that's what I saw when I watched it.

[SPratt74]

Karina did Samba when she danced with the other 3 pros and Lionel Ritchie sang. That was 2 weeks ago I believe.


Oh maybe that was it. I just remember talking about a Samba, but I couldn't remember why. Thanks! ;)

[gingerbread]

i just watched the perfs from last night...

i HATE HATE HATE that waltz they gave to karina - every time i hear it at a comp (which is OVER AND OVER) i have a conniption - but i loved their dance so much, i totally forgot how much i loathe that music. they TOTALLY convinced me. totally.


and her samba... i never looked at mario ONCE.

emmitt surprised me with the body action in the rumba. i mean ok, he's not going to win any championships anytime soon, but for a manly man of his age to work the hips like that - i really give him props, and moreso to cheryl, who has emerged as the most consistently brilliant partner-coach-choreographer of the entire American series of DWTS thus far.

i liked Edyta's tango, which suprised me. Emmitt's foxtrot - also great.

Afraid to confess this, but that waltz still seduces me (do you hate me now?). I was in love with the choreography, which must have come from Nick and Lena, it looks so much like what they do. I would love to have that choreography, it is exquisite. Of course you have to be able to dance it the way Karina did....

[SPratt74]

emmitt surprised me with the body action in the rumba. i mean ok, he's not going to win any championships anytime soon, but for a manly man of his age to work the hips like that - i really give him props, and moreso to cheryl, who has emerged as the most consistently brilliant partner-coach-choreographer of the entire American series of DWTS thus far.

i liked Edyta's tango, which suprised me. Emmitt's foxtrot - also great.

I agree with all of that. It's funny because I didn't care for Cheryl at the beginning of last season, but I just loved her style towards the end. She's one of my favorites besides Kym and Edyta. Although, if I could take lessons with one of them, it would probably be Cheryl. I like how she's tough but yet likes to have fun too etc., which we have already talked about, and I just love her choreography! Louis would be tops for me with the guys! I love everything about him, and I would so take everything in and do what I can for him.

I also liked Emitt's Foxtrot, but I think his other dance was much better. I don't know if I cared for the white though, but white isn't a good color for me anyways lol, so that's more of a personal issue lol. But I'd take it in a red lol!

[LatinDancer006]

I just love Joey. I love his personality, and I never cared for him when I was younger. I have a whole new respect for him whether or not he wins this competition. What a great and classy guy!
To me it's weird how his image doesn't jive with his personality. He has this tough guy image with his shaved head and all, but he's goofy like a little kid. As for his dancing, I wish he'd stop 'bee-bopping' his head like he does in his tap routine.

[LatinDancer006]

Can we vote Samantha off?
I'd second that motion.

[LatinDancer006]

Am I they only one, or do you also think the judges are losing it this season. From the beginning the have been overscoring Mario and Emmitt and underscoring Monique and Louis (especially last week and the week where Mario did the Mambo). They are giving way to much tens. For example: last week Joey and Mario both danced a Slow Foxtrot without heel leads. How in earth can you give 10 - 9 - 10 for a Slowfox without heel leads? You shouldn't get any higher than 8's if you don't have heel leads. The same goes for Joey's Tango with his 10 - 9 -9. Again: no higher then 8's if you don't do the heel leads!
This is what a franchise comp is like. Oops. Off topic. Someone should spank my hand.:oops:

[Vince A]

. . . if I could take lessons with one of them, it would probably be Cheryl . . .
+1 . . . ditto . . . I agree.

As far as I'm concerned, they could do the entire show with a camera aimed only on her . . . not only can she dance and instruct . . . she is downright sexy . . . yummy! Eye candy to the extreme!!!

[SPratt74]

+1 . . . ditto . . . I agree.

As far as I'm concerned, they could do the entire show with a camera aimed only on her . . . not only can she dance and instruct . . . she is downright sexy . . . yummy! Eye candy to the extreme!!!

Lol! I do think that she's the most beautiful of the women. She is just so classy and elegant etc., and she would be someone that I would look up to for reasons like that. The others are just not my style though, and I wouldn't care to dress like them any etc. And I do like the way she can instruct. Some high level instructors have a hard time teaching to new students (I wonder if this is Karina's problem), but Cheryl has seemed to be able to work with everyone that she gets just fine. And you know someone complained that Cheryl was getting to much air time outside of DWTS, but those are some of the reasons why I think anyways! ;)

[delamusica]

Ok - I have to get back to school, so I can't watch the results show. But I just saw the dances from last night on MOIB's site, and I say Joey's gone tonight.

I expect good notes to be taken in my absence tonight! :-p

[dancesportgirl21]

I want my own ballroom! http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news_features/home_and_garden_design/2004/oct2004/ballroom.shtml

[Katarzyna]

So excited, I will see the results show. Haven't seen the show nor results show in weeks. this will be fun :)

[Katarzyna]

Anyone else here? this will be boring alone

[Katarzyna]

yay, I got to see that cha cha of monique.. not sure I like it as much as the judges... I hate the costume.. wow..

[SPratt74]

Hi Kat! I don't mind the Cha Cha any! Although, I'm worried because I wonder if they pick people to dance like that and it's their time to leave? I don't know. I guess we'll see! And the costumes I think were all pretty bad lol, but they were trying to have fun with Halloween I think! ;)

[Katarzyna]

oh, so happy you are here.. :) I'm not alone.. I didn't see the other costumes.. wasn't home last night. The cha was OK but nothing more than OK in my opinion..

[musicchica86]

LOL they just milk Edyta's legs for all they're worth...

[Katarzyna]

It would be sad if the was sent home after doing this dance.. I seem to want her to stay even because she's the only girl..

[Katarzyna]

LOL they just milk Edyta's legs for all they're worth...
well, I wouldn't mind having a body like this.

[SPratt74]

oh, so happy you are here.. :) I'm not alone.. I didn't see the other costumes.. wasn't home last night. The cha was OK but nothing more than OK in my opinion..

Lol! Yeah I agree with you! Oh the dance to Willa Ford's song was amazing and fun! Awesome! ;)

[Katarzyna]

I agree, it was fun to watch :)

[musicchica86]

Oh me neither Kat, I just think it's hilarious how she's always the only female pro showing them...everybody else is at least slightly more covered up.

[musicchica86]

Awwwww, Jonathan and Anna were there!

[Katarzyna]

you have to know your assets ;) and she does..

[musicchica86]

She doesn't pick her costumes though...wardrobe does that.

[Katarzyna]

emitt and Cheryl in semis.. That was to be expected.. I thought they were safe

[SPratt74]

Lol! Emmit is moving on! Wohoo! ;)

[Katarzyna]

She doesn't pick her costumes though...wardrobe does that.
Oh really, in that case they like showcasing her body

[musicchica86]

LOL that's what I meant, they're milking those legs for all they're worth.

[SPratt74]

emitt and Cheryl in semis.. That was to be expected.. I thought they were safe

I wasn't sure if they were safe or not, but they haven't been in the bottom two that I'm aware of. This will be a sad night, because I wish all of them that's left could stay this season!

[SPratt74]

Ick! They keep mentioning Sara Evans and how she left DWTS and how she's going to perform on Monday. You can't see me, but I'm rolling my eyes right now.

[Katarzyna]

I honestly think Mario should win.. we'll see what happens.. it's tought to do eliminations closer to the finals

[My Ox Is Broken]

Love the short hair on Max.

[Katarzyna]

so excited, finally we will have a standard couple..

[Katarzyna]

I want a gown from the same fabric as Anna.. very nice dancing so far...

[musicchica86]

*swoon*

That is all.

Actually, no it's not: I covet that gown.

[SPratt74]

Oh I am so in love lol, with the singers. But man that dancing! Wow! Love Anna and her partner Vic. Love the dress and the choreography! I'm amazed!

[Katarzyna]

I like this couple very much

[SPratt74]

I like this couple very much

Have you ever seen them dance Kat?

[My Ox Is Broken]

That was my favorite dance of the season.

[SPratt74]

That was my favorite dance of the season.

Oh mine too! I can't wait until you put it on YouTube! ;)

[Katarzyna]

Holiday ball 2 years ago, than MIT show, than Embassy Ball than Blackpool.. yes I've seen them.. I had one lesson with Victow.. He is one of the most comfortable people in the world I really like them

[SPratt74]

Holiday ball 2 years ago, than MIT show, than Embassy Ball than Blackpool.. yes.. I had one lesson with Victow.. He is one of the most comfortable people in the world I really like them

I am so jealous lol! I wonder if they'll be on next season? Sometimes they'll feature new dancers that will appear in the next season. ;)

[Katarzyna]

I doubt they will take time off from training and competing to do this.. but who knows....

[dancesportgirl21]

I LOVE Victor and Anna! Great performance!

[musicchica86]

*** is this? And can those girls be any heavier in the lifts? Geez...

[SPratt74]

Wow! That was amazing though! I wish I could move like that! ;)

[Katarzyna]

It so great that they are including so many pro performances during results. I liked the swing hip hop thing (I think that's what they said)... so cool. Have to show this to Alex, he will love this I think

[SPratt74]

It so great that they are including so many pro performances during results. I liked the swing hip hop thing (I think that's what they said)... so cool. Have to show this to Alex, he will love this I think

Yeah did you see that handstand that the guy did and he did it sliding across the floor! I was like what in the world? How can they do that lol? It reminded me of the movie Step Up though lol. That's the kind of dancing they did.

[Katarzyna]

It was so cool. Would be so much fun to do this

[Katarzyna]

Monique, a little fire cracker.. little miss dinamite.. I could see why they would say that :) funny

[SPratt74]

Monique, a little fire cracker.. little miss dinamite.. I could see why they would say that :) funny

Yeah it fits her lol! OMG! Joey is going on to the semis! Now this is getting really exciting! :shock:

[musicchica86]

DUDE...Monique's history now that Joey's safe.

[My Ox Is Broken]

Wow! Not expecting to see Mario in the Bottom Two. So long, Monique.

[My Ox Is Broken]

My husband is dancing around the kitchen calling himself "Sir Shimmy." I guess Emmitt has inspired him.

[Katarzyna]

Mario and Karina were so happy when the result was announced... they look very sure of their place now... poor monique

[SPratt74]

Of course it would be Monique. Mario I doubt will win it though. I can see Emmit winning this whole thing.

[Katarzyna]

I like Marios dancing, he is so annoying, but I just like his dancing so much more..

[SPratt74]

I like Marios dancing, he is so annoying, but I just like his dancing so much more..

Yeah I understand. It makes me wonder though if he is in the bottom two if he's lost fans or what happened that way. I did not see that coming at all.

[musicchica86]

Well...sad but not unexpected.

[Katarzyna]

I doubt he's in bottom 2 but who knows

[SPratt74]

I doubt he's in bottom 2 but who knows

Well, it would be fun to see someone like Emmit win. But Mario just doesn't do anything for me. However, I remember him on the television show way back when and he didn't do anything for me then either. But he is a good dancer though. He could have been another Kelly Monaco just getting by on looks etc., but the boy can move. I will give him that. Just is kind of boring though but oh well. The show was great tonight either way! Loved it. ;)

[My Ox Is Broken]

If Tom felt the need to mention that the last two couples weren't neccessarily the Bottom Two, it makes me think that Mario & Karina probably weren't in the Bottom -- they were just put there for dramatic effect.

[Katarzyna]

I think as judges said he has most ability, he didn't really apply himself to learning ballroom it seems though. But, I would still want to award the best dancer...

[SPratt74]

If Tom felt the need to mention that the last two couples weren't neccessarily the Bottom Two, it makes me think that Mario & Karina probably weren't in the Bottom -- they were just put there for dramatic effect.

Well, it was pretty obvious that they did that lol. But I do know from reading other message boards that people are getting tired of Mario. I don't know. It will be interesting next week to see what happens! But again fun though either way! ;)

[SPratt74]

My husband is dancing around the kitchen calling himself "Sir Shimmy." I guess Emmitt has inspired him.

Lol! That's cute! Hey will you let us know when you get that Waltz that Anna and Vic did on YouTube! I so want to see it again. ;)

[mamboqueen]

I read through the whole thread and cannot figure out who got the heave-ho. Was it Monique?

It's so funny to read through this after the show was on. Now I see what the west coasters must go through reading all of this when they're not watching. It's funny.

[SPratt74]

I read through the whole thread and cannot figure out who got the heave-ho. Was it Monique?

It's so funny to read through this after the show was on. Now I see what the west coasters must go through reading all of this when they're not watching. It's funny.

Yeah it was Monique lol! And this is why I never read the threads whenever I had my dancing lessons at the same time lol. I usually became confused and sad that I didn't get to watch the good stuff lol. ;)

[Bradamant]

It's so funny to read through this after the show was on. Now I see what the west coasters must go through reading all of this when they're not watching. It's funny.

Yep. I'll be reading along:
What?
Who?
Wait, wait, when?
WHo did that?
And what did he do?
Whose dress???
Oh that must be so-and-so.
WHAT?

:artsy:

[pygmalion]

I read through the whole thread and cannot figure out who got the heave-ho. Was it Monique?

It's so funny to read through this after the show was on. Now I see what the west coasters must go through reading all of this when they're not watching. It's funny.

Funny's one word. Frustrating is another. No wonder the West Coast folks, other than Porfirio, God bless him, don't participate, much. :?

Me, too, btw. I don't DO chat. Peiriod. So these threads annoy me no end, even though I know they're tons of fun for folks participating in the moment. These threads can be WAY annoying, if you're not a chat person. IMO.

[SPratt74]

Me, too, btw. I don't DO chat. Peiriod. So these threads annoy me no end, even though I know they're tons of fun for folks participating in the moment. These threads can be WAY annoying, if you're not a chat person. IMO.

Lol! See, I look at it completely opposite actually. I find that by talking dance with you guys makes the show more enjoyable than with people that don't know how to dance, or could care less, or that like to gripe the whole time (I'm thinking of the ABC board and my family that could care less lol). I feel as though we should all be sitting down in one room and eating popcorn and drinking or something lol. But for me too though, I actually learn things, and I pay more attention to like heel leads etc., then I would if I were watching with someone else. It's fun!

[anp73ga31]

I taped the show because I couldn't be home to watch it, and I am so very, very glad I did. Victor and Anna....dancing to that song....I couldn't help it, it was so very beautiful that I just about cried. I was thinking, I wish I could tell all the people out there in TVland who have watched all the fumbles and stumbles of the stars all season long, THIS is what ballroom dancing is, and oh but isn't it beautiful!! I think I will be watching that performance many times over. Just now...thinking about it....oh, how I LONG to look like THAT when I dance. Maybe one day....

[fascination]

Funny's one word. Frustrating is another. No wonder the West Coast folks, other than Porfirio, God bless him, don't participate, much. :?

Me, too, btw. I don't DO chat. Peiriod. So these threads annoy me no end, even though I know they're tons of fun for folks participating in the moment. These threads can be WAY annoying, if you're not a chat person. IMO.
hmmm, i don't find them annoying ... I don't understand them and/or don't participate in them...but hey, just other people and their vision of what the forum is good for...my 2cents

[twnkltoz]

Funny's one word. Frustrating is another. No wonder the West Coast folks, other than Porfirio, God bless him, don't participate, much. :?

Me, too, btw. I don't DO chat. Peiriod. So these threads annoy me no end, even though I know they're tons of fun for folks participating in the moment. These threads can be WAY annoying, if you're not a chat person. IMO.

I'm surprised to read this from you...why read them if they're annoying?

I don't participate because...well, how could I? It's all over by the time I see the show. Well, and half the time I'm out riding when the show is on so I miss it anyway. Monique, eh?

[My Ox Is Broken]

Lol! That's cute! Hey will you let us know when you get that Waltz that Anna and Vic did on YouTube! I so want to see it again. ;)
It's up at MOIB (http://www.myoxisbroken.com/moibArticle.asp?optArticleID=251) (and YouTube, of course).

And I wouldn't worry, anp. I think the general public gets it when they see a performance like the one by Victor and Anna. I'd assume that's what most people think of when they think ballroom. The pretty princess dancing --not some of the more overtly sexy Latin dances. Most people can see themselves dancing a waltz, but not a samba.

Nothing against Latin, of course. I'm just a Standard girl at heart.

[Ralph]

I feel so sorry for Louis. He's a great professional dancer, and he turned Lisa and Monique into pretty good dancers. I must say though that I was more said when he was eliminated last year. Last year he and Lisa deserved to be in the finals. Monique also did in my opinion, but Lisa was somewhat better.

[Bradamant]

Until her final week, Lisa Rinna's dancing made me want to claw my eyes out.
The memory is painful.

[ArtsySalsera]

Blasted!
It's hard to see any of them go now.
I like all the dancers left now.
I have to give it to Monique.
Louis said she took everything he
threw at her.
That Louis.
What a dedicated guy.
I hope he wins it next time.

[swan]

Victor and Anna....dancing to that song....I couldn't help it, it was so very beautiful that I just about cried.

I echoed this comment! My eyes did fog up! I had to watch the tape as well & I watched it several times. Such emotional & breathtaking performance. I've watched their showcase performance & many of their comps. They've always been wonderful performers. But this time, I must say they've outdone themselves! In such a small ballroom, they're able to move so fluidly, effortlessly & w/ such emotion. I felt that Anna was the soul of that performance. Of course, Victor was wonderful & handsome as usual :)

This was truly the best singing & dancing number of all the seasons combined!

[Twilight_Elena]

Damnies. I wanted Joey out. It's all about the guys now!
Mario's Waltz was great! I really didn't expect him to be able to do that!
Victor and Anna ROCKED. WOAH.
Will comment later on on the rest...

T_E

[victordancer]

I feel so sorry for Louis. He's a great professional dancer, and he turned Lisa and Monique into pretty good dancers. I must say though that I was more said when he was eliminated last year. Last year he and Lisa deserved to be in the finals. Monique also did in my opinion, but Lisa was somewhat better.

I think that Louis is the reason Monique is not in the finals. I think he pushed her too far with the complicated choreography he gave her. I think if she had been able to concentrate more on her technique with more basic material she would have looked much better. This is what Cheryl did for Emmitt. Learning two dances in such a short time has to be incredibly difficult for people who have never danced latin or smooth and to be able to remember all the technique(heel leads, staight legs, connection, frame, eye contact etc.) which is what makes it look really good seems close too impossible.

[fascination]

Until her final week, Lisa Rinna's dancing made me want to claw my eyes out.
The memory is painful.lol...agree

[fascination]

I think that Louis is the reason Monique is not in the finals. I think he pushed her too far with the complicated choreography he gave her. I think if she had been able to concentrate more on her technique with more basic material she would have looked much better. This is what Cheryl did for Emmitt. Learning two dances in such a short time has to be incredibly difficult for people who have never danced latin or smooth and to be able to remember all the technique(heel leads, staight legs, connection, frame, eye contact etc.) which is what makes it look really good seems close too impossible.while I understand it, this has sort of been my gripe with the whole thing...all flash no technique...then again, no one but ballroom dancers would watch if it was all about how well they used their center:rolleyes:

[mamboqueen]

They don't really have time to give them that much technique given that they're giving newcomers OPEN routines. I'm actually pretty amazed that some of them are able to do hip motion or body actions at all. It has taken me years to understand it, let alone do it. And at the end of the day, this show was clearly not created with the existing ballroom world in mind (otherwise you'd see them all doing bronze, silver, gold....and go through the "natural" progression). The silver lining to it all is that there are now a LOT of people really showing interest in ballroom dancing. It's all good :)

[fascination]

I KNOW < I KNOW...but I have been indoctrinated...can't help myself

[mamboqueen]

WEll, we're at least rewarded by very nice pro routines. That waltz last night was STUNNING. Thank you, MOIB. I would have missed it if not for you.

[fascination]

aren't they something? my pro tested out of silver with her...she used to teach at our old studio...and he(victor) is the most unassuming dear soul...when they dance their love is so obvious...I just adore them...and I usually cry when they waltz

[mamboqueen]

My goosebumps got goosebumps. I just watched it again. It's just amazing how EASY they made that look.

#3 Il Divo wasn't tough to look at either ;)

[Dancebug]

WEll, we're at least rewarded by very nice pro routines. That waltz last night was STUNNING. Thank you, MOIB. I would have missed it if not for you.
Was it waltz? I thought it was FT. I had better watch it again.

[mamboqueen]

Was it waltz? I thought it was FT. I had better watch it again.


It probably was! I don't have the sound on my computer at work and am not versed at all in standard...although I can probably pick off a tango and quickstep!

[fascination]

i didn't see it but I hope it was a waltz b/c they are so awesomeful at it...must find someone who taped it

[yanka]

I think that Louis is the reason Monique is not in the finals. I think he pushed her too far with the complicated choreography he gave her. I think if she had been able to concentrate more on her technique with more basic material she would have looked much better. This is what Cheryl did for Emmitt. Learning two dances in such a short time has to be incredibly difficult for people who have never danced latin or smooth and to be able to remember all the technique(heel leads, staight legs, connection, frame, eye contact etc.) which is what makes it look really good seems close too impossible.

I agree with you to some extent. I think he's got an attitude, which kind of offs people. As for the choreography, unfortunately it's different between the men and women. I thought Willa had great technique (compared to the others) and she got booted...
The problem is that the couples compete with each other, which means that in many ways the female stars have to compete with the female pros. The audience remembers the flashy/fancy stuff, and it's much easier for a female pro to accomplish that.

[wyllo]

Does the Pacific Dancesport Championships really draw in 2,000 competitors -- wouldn't that make it the largest competition in the nation? (Did he maybe mean 2,000 entries?) And I'm sure they were just trying to insert some drama, but that poor woman -- the pro seemed like he was trying to make her cry with all his comments about how harsh the judges will be on her when she competes.

And, wow, Victor and Anna were breathtaking. I have yet to see a negative comment about them in some of the other DWTS forums - the word "gorgeous" seems to come up a lot. :) I guess that just shows that nondancers can appreciate standard. Well, at least when its done exceptionally well.

[Dancebug]

It probably was! I don't have the sound on my computer at work and am not versed at all in standard...although I can probably pick off a tango and quickstep!
I don't have sound at my work computer, either. But I see it is FT, and 99% of the routine is from syllabus, which shows that you don't have to have fancy open routine to impress people.

[musicchica86]

Well, to get it down to basics, "Without You" is in 4/4 time, not 3/4, so that would rule out waltz immediately. Besides, the basic step in the very beginning is undoubtedly foxtrot to me...

[contracheck]

Well, to get it down to basics, "Without You" is in 4/4 time, not 3/4, so that would rule out waltz immediately. Besides, the basic step in the very beginning is undoubtedly foxtrot to me...

The dance was definitly FT. To me, it was a tough music to do either FT or W. IMHO, only masters like Victor and Anna can digest the music and produce such a great dance. Of all the great songs, they picked a horrible song as usual. I wonder how many people can dance on this music correctly, if they play it in a competition. I hate Il Divo. This is a ticklish and sissy group of singers. They look like a bunch of transexuals. In fact, I hate everybody MQ likes. It looks like Victor is going to be the successor of Jonathan Wilkins in US.

[yanka]

I also was positive it was FT (but I don't dance standard).
I couldn't tell if the music was too fast or too slow, though. It seemed as though something was was a bit off.

[victordancer]

I agree with you to some extent. I think he's got an attitude, which kind of offs people. As for the choreography, unfortunately it's different between the men and women. I thought Willa had great technique (compared to the others) and she got booted...
The problem is that the couples compete with each other, which means that in many ways the female stars have to compete with the female pros. The audience remembers the flashy/fancy stuff, and it's much easier for a female pro to accomplish that.

I think you have a number of good points;however, as the professional, i think it was up to louis to give her material she good accomplish without stumbling or just running after him(tango-tuesday night). I believe she had the abilty to handle more technique and would have looked more proficient and while it might not have won over the fans as easily she would have been getting higher scores consistently from the judges which i believe does impact on the viewing public who are not dancers-she was always having to say she was going to try harder or looking as if she was not doing that well. Louis could have kept in some of the tricks but made the routines on the whole a lot easier.

[swan]

My goosebumps got goosebumps. I just watched it again. It's just amazing how EASY they made that look.

#3 Il Divo wasn't tough to look at either ;)

It is Foxtrot. I like the Il Divo guy to the far right. He looked like the leading star of What About Brian (the Brian guy) :)

I hate Il Divo. This is a ticklish and sissy group of singers. They look like a bunch of transexuals.

I don't think all of them look like transexuals. Some may look a bit feminine.

[gingerbread]

Well, it was pretty obvious that they did that lol. But I do know from reading other message boards that people are getting tired of Mario. I don't know. It will be interesting next week to see what happens! But again fun though either way! ;)
What do you all mean by "getting tired" of Mario? Tired of what? You don'y like his attitude. He doesn't seem like someone one could have a scintillating conversation with, true, but we are not judging that. Isn't he the best dancer?

[ACtenDance]

I don't have sound at my work computer, either. But I see it is FT, and 99% of the routine is from syllabus, which shows that you don't have to have fancy open routine to impress people.

Just watched it on MYOIB. Definitely a great performance to put on DWTS. Tacky singers, but the entire first section of their foxtrot is out of the syllabus or popular variations. Let's see... feather, reverse turn, three step, hover cross with a weave ending, reverse turn, extended wave... very cool to see that.

[gingerbread]

I like Marios dancing, he is so annoying, but I just like his dancing so much more..
why does Karina have so much trouble teaching? It really gets me , when they show them rehearsing, that she is the one having meltdowns, collapsing in a chair virtually in tears, saying she can't take it any more. What's with that? Why is it harder for her to teach than anyone else, especially as she has one of the more talented pupils? She seems to be so temperamental, I am wondering if this is on purpose? Do they suggest she do this to add some excitement to the rehearsal scenes?

[gingerbread]

Blasted!
It's hard to see any of them go now.
I like all the dancers left now.
I have to give it to Monique.
Louis said she took everything he
threw at her.
That Louis.
What a dedicated guy.
I hope he wins it next time.

I was surprised to read that Lousi si doig the tour with Lisa Rinna. It's quite a long tour, a lot of cities, and I simply don't see what's in it for him or his career.

[SDsalsaguy]

why does Karina have so much trouble teaching? It really gets me , when they show them rehearsing, that she is the one having meltdowns, collapsing in a chair virtually in tears, saying she can't take it any more. What's with that? Why is it harder for her to teach than anyone else, especially as she has one of the more talented pupils? She seems to be so temperamental, I am wondering if this is on purpose? Do they suggest she do this to add some excitement to the rehearsal scenes?
Also keep in mind how little of the footage actually filmed gets air time... ;)

[Sunshines Partner]

why does Karina have so much trouble teaching? It really gets me , when they show them rehearsing, that she is the one having meltdowns, collapsing in a chair virtually in tears, saying she can't take it any more. What's with that? Why is it harder for her to teach than anyone else, especially as she has one of the more talented pupils? She seems to be so temperamental, I am wondering if this is on purpose? Do they suggest she do this to add some excitement to the rehearsal scenes?

And you think all that stuff is real!

[gingerbread]

lol...agree
me too, Lisa Rinna.... so incredibly annoying and fake. I never believed anything she said.

[gingerbread]

And you think all that stuff is real!

OK, OK, I got it!

[My Ox Is Broken]

I was surprised to read that Lousi si doig the tour with Lisa Rinna. It's quite a long tour, a lot of cities, and I simply don't see what's in it for him or his career.
He and Lisa are business partners, and they obviously became buddies last season, so he gets to hang out with his pal for a couple of months. They'll be performing in front of huge crowds...much bigger than in his competitive days, even if his partner's not of the same talent-level. And I'd hope that the tour pays pretty well, considering how friggin' expensive tickets are.

[Ithink]

I was surprised to read that Lousi si doig the tour with Lisa Rinna. It's quite a long tour, a lot of cities, and I simply don't see what's in it for him or his career.

I bet you that Louis is doing it because they'll probably give him top choreographing credit. He did one ballroom broadway-type show already and if the DWTS tour is a success, I bet there is nothing he'd love to do more than be a choreographer for other shows. A man of his creativity would seem to be drawn to such a job...

[swan]

I bet you that Louis is doing it because they'll probably give him top choreographing credit. He did one ballroom broadway-type show already and if the DWTS tour is a success, I bet there is nothing he'd love to do more than be a choreographer for other shows. A man of his creativity would seem to be drawn to such a job...

I think during the tour, Louis would be in demand in those local studios for private coaching as well. So it's win-win for him. In fact, if he's already in that city, the lesson fees might go down - instead of adding the travel expense on top of the lesson fee - thus more students!