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Peaches
03-14-2007, 06:36 AM
No. I'm not pregnant.

A friend of mine who dances with me announced yesterday that she's knocked up. Yay. Really, I'm happy for her, except it means the next 8 months are going to be filled with hearing all sorts of details that will require a lobotomy to expunge from my brain. (She's got NO censors on what she says. At all.)

So, she's really worried about dancing while being pregnant. Is it OK? Will it jostle the baby too much? Etc., etc., etc. This is her second kid, so you'd think she'd be more relaxed about it, except that she miscarried last year and so is rather nervous. She said something last night about how your core body temp isn't supposed to rise, and your heart rate has to stay low. Both make sense, to a point, but I KNOW women exercise and whatnot during pregnancy, which would seem to contradict it. I told her to ask her doctor, but she's not convinced that her dr. would know about the risks invovled with dancing.

Heh. She's been working on a swing showcase for June. Not any more! What with the dips and drops they had planned, our teacher is refusing to do that with her. And with good reason, since she'll be about 5 months then. They're thinking waltz, or rumba instead.

Anyway. So...any advice, words of caution, etc. for my knocked-up friend?

tangotime
03-14-2007, 06:47 AM
True story-- a very well known couple ( previously, I had coached the male of the partnership ) danced in the British, when she was 6 / 7 months preg.

of course ,, a doctors advice would always be advisable .

fascination
03-14-2007, 06:52 AM
someone who has miscarried is likely to be scared no matter what...I have seen ladies competing in what must surely have been their third tri-mester...as a fitness instructor there are very few things that change for expecting ladies but we do limit things that require stress or pressure to the abdomen...it also depends upon whether her miscarriage was caused by a physiological issue or as in most b/c of a defect in fetal growth...perhaps she can show her physician some tapes of what she usually does...and get some clarifications...bottom line is that if she's worried, even needlessly, she probably shouldn't do it b/c if something goes wrong again it will be just one more thing for her to beat herself up with...but it is really important that if the cause of her miscarriage is incompetant cervix that she be very careful about her activity level...though I assume that if that was the cause she would know it by now...

Peaches
03-14-2007, 06:52 AM
That's awesome. But still. You're talking about competitors in top physical condition. I'm talking about someone who does group classes and a private lesson once a week, and who goes social dancing every other week.

Peaches
03-14-2007, 06:57 AM
someone who has miscarried is likely to be scared no matter what...I have seen ladies competing in what must surely have been their third tri-mester...as a fitness instructor there are very few things that change for expecting ladies but we do limit things that require stress or pressure to the abdomen...it also depends upon whether her miscarriage was caused by a physiological issue or as in most b/c of a defect in fetal growth...perhaps she can show her physician some tapes of what she usually does...and get some clarifications...bottom line is that if she's worried, even needlessly, she probably shouldn't do it b/c if something goes wrong again it will be just one more thing for her to beat herself up with...but it is really important that if the cause of her miscarriage is incompetant cervix that she be very careful about her activity level...though I assume that if that was the cause she would know it by now...
I think she's actually pretty ok with the miscarriage, from what I can tell. She doesn't know the reason--it was entirely spontaneous, pretty early in the first trimester.

The tapes are a good idea. She feels like she's getting conflicting advice--her doctor is saying that temp & heart rate shouldn't rise, but her personal trainer is saying she can still be very active (and be pushed relatively hard) pretty late.

I know she desperately wants to keep dancing while she's pregnant, if at all possible. She struggles with depression, and the dancing makes a big difference to her with that. And, she's looking to stay active.

samina
03-14-2007, 06:59 AM
I'm talking about someone who does group classes and a private lesson once a week, and who goes social dancing every other week.

that doesn't sound like much... i think fascination's counsel is excellent. i would add that her being fearful is probly more stressful on her condition than dancing could ever be...

fascination
03-14-2007, 06:59 AM
temp and heart rate shouldn't rise how much for goodness sakes?....that just doesn't sound very helpful...I think she should seek some more advice if that was the extent of it

Peaches
03-14-2007, 07:03 AM
i would add that her being fearful is probly more stressful on her condition than dancing could ever be...Good point!

Peaches
03-14-2007, 07:04 AM
temp and heart rate shouldn't rise how much for goodness sakes?....that just doesn't sound very helpful...I think she should seek some more advice if that was the extent of it
That was kind of my reaction. But since I don't have kids, what do I know?

I mean, everything I read says that moderate, low impact exercise is good. Her trainer has very pregnant women working pretty hard, and worked pretty hard herself up until, like, 3 days before delivering. None of that seems compatible with core temp not rising.

Pacion
03-14-2007, 07:16 AM
No. I'm not pregnant.

Enquiring minds would like to know, why you felt you had to open your post with those two sentences... ;) :lol:

samina
03-14-2007, 07:20 AM
Enquiring minds would like to know, why you felt you had to open your post with those two sentences... ;) :lol:

are kidding? she had to... anyone who noticed both the thread name and who originated it would be opening it up with only one question at the forefront. :rolleyes:

Peaches
03-14-2007, 07:22 AM
are kidding? she had to... anyone who noticed both the thread name and who originated it would be opening it up with only one question at the forefront. :rolleyes:
EXACTLY!!!

Besides, if you mouse over the thread title the first part will display in the flyover pop-up. Best to have that crucial information right there--so no questions come up.

fascination
03-14-2007, 07:22 AM
That's awesome. But still. You're talking about competitors in top physical condition. I'm talking about someone who does group classes and a private lesson once a week, and who goes social dancing every other week.
not the women I saw

fascination
03-14-2007, 07:24 AM
That was kind of my reaction. But since I don't have kids, what do I know?

I mean, everything I read says that moderate, low impact exercise is good. Her trainer has very pregnant women working pretty hard, and worked pretty hard herself up until, like, 3 days before delivering. None of that seems compatible with core temp not rising.
again, no pun intended, I think it's a matter of degree...for goodness sakes, we are wired to be able to handle things like that

fascination
03-14-2007, 07:24 AM
probably the same kind of Dr who won't let you get up and walk around while in labor....

fascination
03-14-2007, 07:25 AM
are kidding? she had to... anyone who noticed both the thread name and who originated it would be opening it up with only one question at the forefront. :rolleyes:gotta say...I almost choked on my coffee when I first saw it

samina
03-14-2007, 07:27 AM
it was a moment like " 2+2=5...? No way..."

fascination
03-14-2007, 07:29 AM
nah...I just figured she'd caved in a weak moment...sort of like competing

Pacion
03-14-2007, 07:42 AM
:lol: Peaches, Samina and Fascination!

Me on the other hand, sometimes start threads that have NO bearing or relation on what is going on in my life - might just have the inspiration from a conversation, something happening/not happening with a friend or something that I saw on TV, the newspapers or heard on the radio. Often, my thread topics start from 'a musing', a thought.

So, I was giving Peaches the benefit of the doubt :D

('Tis like the thread I started a while back about juggling having a family/children, having a job AND dancing. ;))

Peaches
03-14-2007, 07:45 AM
gotta say...I almost choked on my coffee when I first saw it
See??? This is what I mean. I had to put those two sentences right at the start!

Peaches
03-14-2007, 07:47 AM
nah...I just figured she'd caved in a weak moment...sort of like competing
*sigh* *bang head on desk* *sigh*

No weak moments possible for me, thankyouverymuch.

And I'm zinging a lightening bolt your way for the competing comment.

Come to think of it, I cold probably end up competing as the result of a weak moment much easier than i could end up knocked up as the result of a weak moment. Not that that stops both teachers from hounding me, though.

samina
03-14-2007, 07:48 AM
peach, this is entirely off-topic but... it occurs to me that you haven't changed your avatar once since i came on the scene... i think it's about time we have a good shot of you in your 4" stilletos... in a pencil skirt... hmmm?

samina
03-14-2007, 07:49 AM
No weak moments possible for me, thankyouverymuch.

yah, i get that you're completely resolved on that issue... made the title of your thread all-the-more intriguing.


but i second fasc's comp comment...:rolleyes:

Purr
03-14-2007, 07:57 AM
gotta say...I almost choked on my coffee when I first saw it

I had about the same reaction, except I was drinking juice instead. ;)

Peaches
03-14-2007, 08:11 AM
yah, i get that you're completely resolved on that issue... made the title of your thread all-the-more intriguing.


but i second fasc's comp comment...:rolleyes:
It's not the resolution. It's the fact that it would take some serious planning for me to get pregnant.

Peaches
03-14-2007, 08:11 AM
I had about the same reaction, except I was drinking juice instead. ;)
I see my reputation is well established. :-)

Peaches
03-14-2007, 08:12 AM
peach, this is entirely off-topic but... it occurs to me that you haven't changed your avatar once since i came on the scene... i think it's about time we have a good shot of you in your 4" stilletos... in a pencil skirt... hmmm?
I've thought about this, actually. I'd post pictures, except I don't have any...no digital camera with which to take pics.

Twilight_Elena
03-14-2007, 08:19 AM
My first reaction was "Peaches is PREGNANT? No way!" :lol: So it was a good thing she clarified in the beginning.
My boss's wife, co-owner of the dance school and fellow teacher danced till days before she delivered. We all thought she was nuts, but she felt fine and would dance everything.
Another teacher I know stopped teaching and dancing very early (second trimester, I think), even though she was teaching just 3-4 hours per day, because she had some complications that required her being almost confined in bed for a week or so and then she was very careful. I think she came to a couple of parties during her third trimester and danced one or two songs.
I think it depends on many things. She should definitely consult her doctor and closely monitor her pregnancy. If they're both healthy, she'll probably be able to dance till she's pretty far along.

T_E

samina
03-14-2007, 08:48 AM
I've thought about this, actually. I'd post pictures, except I don't have any...no digital camera with which to take pics.

can you borrow one from a friend or colleague?

wooh
03-14-2007, 11:39 AM
i could end up knocked up as the result of a weak moment. Not that that stops both teachers from hounding me, though.

What kind of lessons are you taking?:confused:

:D

wooh
03-14-2007, 11:42 AM
General disclaimer that she should consult her doctor followed by general musings:
Moderate exercise is actually good for the majority of pregnant women. Keeping the muscles strong will make for an easier labor. Staying in shape while pregnant will make it easier to get "back" into shape after baby comes.

Sagitta
03-14-2007, 12:13 PM
No. I'm not pregnant.
And I was about to congratilate you! :-(

Peaches
03-14-2007, 12:42 PM
And I was about to congratilate you! :-(
Understand and appreciate the sentiment, but I'd need consolation.

Either that, or you'd have to go drag me away from playing in freeway traffic.

Medira
03-14-2007, 12:45 PM
I have a friend who danced (professional-calibre jazz) until a couple of hours before her water broke. She made sure that she was very aware of her body and how she felt. She was also willing to take breaks as necessary. Her doctor was encouraging and thought it was great that she was staying active.

As an amusing side note, she said her turns had never been better than when she was pregnant because she was more front-weighted than normal, which pulled her into a nicely centered alignment.

Peaches
03-14-2007, 12:49 PM
Wow, M. That's impressive. That's odd that she'd be better balanced--certainly not what I'd have expected.

Aside from samba, jive, and cha, I don't see how ballroom dancing could be detrimental. Assuming everything else is OK, of course. I mean, women used to work in fields and on farms while pregnant.

samina
03-14-2007, 12:59 PM
jive is surely an unknown but excellent way to induce labor...:cool:

Medira
03-14-2007, 01:12 PM
Wow, M. That's impressive. That's odd that she'd be better balanced--certainly not what I'd have expected.
She found that her balance was better for pirouettes, especially multiples. It's pretty common for people to pull their shoulders back when doing turns...the issue seems to get worse with multiples. As a result, the center ends up angled toward the back. The extra weight in front kept her from overbalancing backward! :)

Aside from samba, jive, and cha, I don't see how ballroom dancing could be detrimental. Assuming everything else is OK, of course. I mean, women used to work in fields and on farms while pregnant.
Yeah, with the exception of some cases, most pregnant women aren't nearly as fragile as it seems they "should" be.

Pacion
03-14-2007, 02:40 PM
I have a friend who danced (professional-calibre jazz) until a couple of hours before her water broke.

Wow! I wonder what the baby/child is like, dancewise I mean. I have heard/read ;) that children often show a liking/disliking for the same things the mothers did, whilst they, the baby not the mother (!) were 'incubating'. Only natural or to be expected, seeing at the baby picks up all the thoughts/vibrations of the mother. Still, I am curious :D

samina
03-14-2007, 02:45 PM
Wow! I wonder what the baby/child is like, dancewise I mean. I have heard/read ;) that children often show a liking/disliking for the same things the mothers did, whilst they, the baby not the mother (!) were 'incubating'. Only natural or to be expected, seeing at the baby picks up all the thoughts/vibrations of the mother. Still, I am curious :D

that would be interesting to find out later!

makes me think of the dancers who seem to have been dancing since they were in the womb...

chocolatchica
03-14-2007, 02:50 PM
No. I'm not pregnant.

A friend of mine who dances with me announced yesterday that she's knocked up. Yay. Really, I'm happy for her, except it means the next 8 months are going to be filled with hearing all sorts of details that will require a lobotomy to expunge from my brain. (She's got NO censors on what she says. At all.)

So, she's really worried about dancing while being pregnant. Is it OK? Will it jostle the baby too much? Etc., etc., etc. This is her second kid, so you'd think she'd be more relaxed about it, except that she miscarried last year and so is rather nervous. She said something last night about how your core body temp isn't supposed to rise, and your heart rate has to stay low. Both make sense, to a point, but I KNOW women exercise and whatnot during pregnancy, which would seem to contradict it. I told her to ask her doctor, but she's not convinced that her dr. would know about the risks invovled with dancing.

Heh. She's been working on a swing showcase for June. Not any more! What with the dips and drops they had planned, our teacher is refusing to do that with her. And with good reason, since she'll be about 5 months then. They're thinking waltz, or rumba instead.

Anyway. So...any advice, words of caution, etc. for my knocked-up friend?
It should be fine as long as she doesnt have a history or high risk of miscarriage. Doctors will usually let her know. But I have to say my doctor told me to stay put and relax my eighth and ninth months of pregnancy. Did I listen? Not really. I was taking a lot of privates and going to every social ballroom party available. I am glad I did to because my delivery was fast and easy plus my son LOVES ballroom dancing. I think it depends on the individual. I felt comfortable but it may be a little harder on other peoples body. I think the younger you are and how active you normally are has a lot to do with it to.

Medira
03-14-2007, 02:51 PM
Well, her little one is three now and she loves "ballerina time!"...she also loves it when she gets to come to the ballroom studio with mommy and daddy.

samina
03-14-2007, 02:52 PM
Well, her little one is three now and she loves "ballerina time!"...she also loves it when she gets to come to the ballroom studio with mommy and daddy.

and a dancer is born... ;)

skwiggy
03-14-2007, 03:30 PM
My sis is a marathon runner, and she's expecting. She stopped running, because she said it has become uncomfortable. But I was there when the doctor told her that she could run if it didn't bother her. And he had another patient who was also a runner who ran throughout her entire pregnancy.

I had a friend who did some social dancing while she was very pregnant. She said it all felt fine except for merengue, because her belly was swishing back and forth out of sync with the rest of her body, and it felt too weird.

There are definitely some things that pregnant women shouldn't do. I've heard for example that the twisting actions in yoga are bad for pregnant women, so I would think lots of twisting in dancing would be bad. But outside of some obvious no-no's that any doctor would go over with you, I imagine it's all a very personal thing.

Pacion
03-14-2007, 03:37 PM
I've heard for example that the twisting actions in yoga are bad for pregnant women, so I would think lots of twisting in dancing would be bad.

Just think... :roll: it was twisting actions that probably got the woman pregnant in the first place :? ;) :lol:

samina
03-14-2007, 03:42 PM
:cool:

fascination
03-14-2007, 04:05 PM
yes,...anything requiring twisting, pressure, crunching to the abds

noobster
03-14-2007, 10:09 PM
I think she's actually pretty ok with the miscarriage, from what I can tell. She doesn't know the reason--it was entirely spontaneous, pretty early in the first trimester.

Early spontaneous abortions do not raise the mother's risk for future miscarriage until she has had at least three of them. They are extremely common (maybe >30% of all pregnancies) and are usually due to genetic abnormalities in the fetus incompatible with survival.

I really doubt the degree of exertion involved in social dancing could be harmful to an otherwise low-risk pregnancy. Of course the dance floor can be a dangerous place for other reasons, and you wouldn't want to get an elbow in the stomach or anything like that. :eek:

chocolatchica
03-14-2007, 11:43 PM
The lifting and twisting felt ok for me. Of course I couldn't do as much as usual but my stomach didnt grow big either. I was fairly small until the ninth month

Keith
03-15-2007, 12:12 AM
The only issue my wife had with tango dancing when she was pregnant was that she made some of the men nervous. I think think they were afraid their shoes may get wet if her water broke. She was dancing at 9+ months. We were dancing on a Friday night and she delivered the following Monday morning.

-keith

Pacion
03-15-2007, 04:21 AM
The only issue my wife had with tango dancing when she was pregnant was that she made some of the men nervous. I think think they were afraid their shoes may get wet if her water broke.

:lol: I hope you are joking! :lol:

samina
03-15-2007, 06:23 AM
The only issue my wife had with tango dancing when she was pregnant was that she made some of the men nervous. I think think they were afraid their shoes may get wet if her water broke. She was dancing at 9+ months. We were dancing on a Friday night and she delivered the following Monday morning.

-keith

good for her! :)

Peaches
03-15-2007, 07:43 AM
She was dancing at 9+ months. We were dancing on a Friday night and she delivered the following Monday morning.
Good for her!

But...
The only issue my wife had with tango dancing when she was pregnant was that she made some of the men nervous. I think think they were afraid their shoes may get wet if her water broke.Eeew. Gack. Not funny. Ugh. *shudder* Eeeeeeewwwwwww!!!!!

(OK. So I'm really really squickish about pregnancy and babies and stuff. Ick.)

anp73ga31
03-15-2007, 08:19 AM
(OK. So I'm really really squickish about pregnancy and babies and stuff. Ick.)

You aren't alone. Ick! to the entire pregnancy thing...

(looked for a barfing or shuddering smilie but found nothing...oh well. lol!)

Medira
03-15-2007, 08:22 AM
Hi Keith! Welcome to DF and thanks for sharing. :)

Peaches
03-15-2007, 08:30 AM
You aren't alone. Ick! to the entire pregnancy thing...

(looked for a barfing or shuddering smilie but found nothing...oh well. lol!)
Oh, finally, someone else!

Yeah, yeah...natural, normal, and most beautiful miracle of life. I just can't handle it. Makes me feel like I need to take a shower and scrub myself extra hard or something. *shudder* (Funny, spiders create the same reaction...)

I mean, great for other people. Really. But, wow, not for me.

And, have you ever noticed that babies smell? Eeew.

samina
03-15-2007, 08:34 AM
Good for her!

But...
Eeew. Gack. Not funny. Ugh. *shudder* Eeeeeeewwwwwww!!!!!

(OK. So I'm really really squickish about pregnancy and babies and stuff. Ick.)

heh... doesn't faze me at all... :cool:

samina
03-15-2007, 08:35 AM
keith, yes... welcome, absolutely! :D

Peaches
03-15-2007, 08:45 AM
heh... doesn't faze me at all... :cool:
I should hope not, since you've had a couple!

samina
03-15-2007, 08:50 AM
I should hope not, since you've had a couple!

true. i'm generally not squeamish about that stuff, anyway...

i used to get very strong braxton-hicks contractions when i was pregnant with both my kids... just walking across the street could trigger one & i'd have to stop. doing tango sounds like it would have triggered them like crazy!

Peaches
03-15-2007, 08:56 AM
It's very strange. Usually I'm not squickish about stuff. Not at all, unless it involves creepy crawly things, or extremely loose teeth, apparently.

But anything involving the solo part of making a baby (as opposed to the fun, duet part), and I just cannot handle any of it.

samina
03-15-2007, 08:57 AM
But anything involving the solo part of making a baby (as opposed to the fun, duet part), and I just cannot handle any of it.

it takes one face-to-face with some very powerful emotions & realities...

Peaches
03-15-2007, 09:03 AM
I could imagine. It's the biological process of it that just...ick.

The next 8 months dealing with my friend is going to be...fun. With her last kid we weren't as close--thankfully, in a way--and I was still begging her to please just stop talking sometimes. We were always meeting for dinner, too.
Then again, maybe we should meet for dinner and she can tell me all about it, and I'll be too ICK to eat. Weight loss plan!

What I found kind of interesting was our dance teacher. Usually he's pretty squickish about anything female or overly personal. He's quick to stop things with "too much information!" (We're all friends outside of the student-teacher relationship, hence the odd conversations.) But when my friend told him, after he got over the initial shock, he was perfectly comfortable with it and with her in a way I never would have expected. Very interesting. Not squeamish, not uncomfortable--quite the opposite. Granted, he's got 3 kids of his own, and 2 grand kids, so there you have it.

samina
03-15-2007, 09:08 AM
The next 8 months dealing with my friend is going to be...fun. With her last kid we weren't as close--thankfully, in a way--and I was still begging her to please just stop talking sometimes.


having a baby completely changes your focus... it's natural for friendships to feel it, especially you don't have enuf other things in common.

then once the kids come... the collision of values can be a very interesting new dynamic between friends! i remember my eyes popping out in disbelief when a former friend of mine fed her baby velveeta & hot dogs...

Peaches
03-15-2007, 09:13 AM
You ain't kiddin!

For better or for worse, she's not the type who can be entertained for hours with her kid. She tried the SAHM thing, and it was just too unhealthy for her. So, she and her husband make quite a point of going out with DH and I (and others). We've actually gotten closer.

Yeah, that food would have had me flipping out, too. I mean, kids have grown and thrived on all kinds of things, and worse and less things, too. But, yeah, that wouldn't set so well with me. (Like last night, DH and I were eating out and there was a young--late teens, early 20's? girl there with a little baby--IN THE SMOKING SECTION! DH and I were livid. I mean, I choose to endanger my life, but a child has no option. Oooooh! OK. Off soapbox now.)

Pacion
03-15-2007, 10:17 AM
And, have you ever noticed that babies smell? Eeew

... and adults don't? :? :lol:

I personally:

a) would rather take a baby's smell over an adult's, unless it is something the adult can't help - the baby is 'helpless' to prevent it whereas an adult...

b) love the smell of a freshly laundered, oops, I meant bathed ;), baby. In clean clothes, is to me, one of the best smells on earth. :banana:Sorry, but a loved one wearing D&G or Armani cologne goes into fourth place, with the baby taking first, second AND third place. :grins:

samina
03-15-2007, 10:26 AM
a) would rather take a baby's smell over an adult's,

like adults, baby's smell when we feed them the crap we've grown expected to feed them. fwiw, they do not smell when they are nursing exclusively.

an unadulterated baby smell is... heavenly...:cool:

Peaches
03-15-2007, 10:41 AM
an unadulterated baby smell is... heavenly...:cool:GACK!

Pacion
03-15-2007, 10:45 AM
:lol: Peaches

What if I were to say that some babies, even smell of fruit, peaches to be precise? ;)

No, going to get my smelling tested isn't an option :lol:

Peaches
03-15-2007, 11:13 AM
:lol: Peaches

What if I were to say that some babies, even smell of fruit, peaches to be precise? ;)

No, going to get my smelling tested isn't an option :lol:
Normally I'd say I'll beleive it when I smell it. But I'm not sniffin' no baby.

Peaches
03-15-2007, 11:14 AM
I might also say that I have to switch screen names now. And shower. I think i feel violated.

anp73ga31
03-15-2007, 12:01 PM
Oh, finally, someone else!

And, have you ever noticed that babies smell? Eeew.

Yes! Like sour milk...

I must be lacking a female gene or something, because when I see a pregnant woman I dont think it is beautiful or wonderful or anything like that. I think its gross....no one's stomach should have to distort like that. And nothing the size of a grapefruit should EVER have to squeeze itself out of...well, you know. Ugh!

No offense to the mommies out there...kudos to you for doing it, but it ain't for me!! And I've gotten past the point of thinking there is something wrong with me, so I just ignore people that tell me "Oh that will change" and "you dont know what you are talking about". Trust me, 33 years of watching pregnant people waddle around, births on tv (yep, they used to show it on tv when I was a child), screaming, angry, hateful children/teenagers who cant behave in public, horrible deaths told of on tv by crazy people who are obsessed with innocent little children, pregnant teenagers, etc....yep, my mind has been made up for a while now. The "joy" or whatever of having a kid is not worth all those other things to me. Luckily my mom prefers children to grandchildren and doesnt care. lol!

I will say that my mom swears it was worth it, but hey...they put her to sleep and she woke up with me in her arms! I have good friends who spent 14 hours in labor and have heard ALL the horror stories. Sure, later, after they have been stitched up from where they ripped certain things and everything is back to normal size they say it was worth it....but I never believe them. :)

Oh gee thanks, peaches, I think I need a shower now too.....ack!

samina
03-15-2007, 12:05 PM
Yes! Like sour milk...



it's too bad that's become such a common perception. it's not natural (the sour-milk smell, i mean). not anymore natural than epideural's being de rigeur for childbirth... which of course many consider "natural".

dancing tango whilst pregnant seems like a much more natural paradigm to adopt. ;)

(BOT)

Peaches
03-15-2007, 12:05 PM
My twin!!!

Kudos to others, but...no. Lessee, the two descriptions of giving birth I've heard...pot roast though a cheerio, and taking your bottom lip, and stretching it up and over your head. Neither sounds pleasant.

I've got the same reaction to pregnant women. Just...gross.

Yup, definitely lacking a gene. I like it this way.

Pacion
03-15-2007, 12:06 PM
Normally I'd say I'll beleive it when I smell it. But I'm not sniffin' no baby.

rotfl! :lol: Weeeellll, here's hoping that your friend won't try and get you to 'sniff' her baby when it arrives... :lol: (excuse me whilst I *duck* ;) :car: )

fascination
03-15-2007, 12:06 PM
I love my kids...I loved my epidurals...I am glad I am done...pregnancy was just a neccessary evil...and I wasn't beautiful either

fascination
03-15-2007, 12:07 PM
uh...but...unless they were poopy...my babies smelled wonderful

anp73ga31
03-15-2007, 12:08 PM
The next 8 months dealing with my friend is going to be...fun. With her last kid we weren't as close--thankfully, in a way--and I was still begging her to please just stop talking sometimes. We were always meeting for dinner, too.
Then again, maybe we should meet for dinner and she can tell me all about it, and I'll be too ICK to eat. Weight loss plan!

Definitely a weight loss plan for you. Because you will hear, from here on out, stories about the kid. Never anything else. Trust me, I know this from personal experience. Luckily I have a strong stomach and can eat while talking about anything....

Peaches
03-15-2007, 12:08 PM
rotfl! :lol: Weeeellll, here's hoping that your friend won't try and get you to 'sniff' her baby when it arrives... :lol: (excuse me whilst I *duck* ;) :car: )
Ha! She knows better. I have held a baby exactly twice in my life--both times b/c said friend thought it was funny to stick her in my lap/arms and move away before I could give her back. She knew I wouldn't let the kid fall on the floor. Somewhere there are pics of each time.

Pacion
03-15-2007, 12:12 PM
Trust me, 33 years of watching pregnant people waddle around, births on tv (yep, they used to show it on tv when I was a child),

Maybe, that is why, in Victorian times (?) women would disappear for a few weeks/months and suddenly reappear with a 'smelling' - sweet smelling or otherwise bundle! ;) Whilst I am please that pregnant women are being given more fashionable stuff to wear rather than a 'sack', I sometimes do find it a bit much when the woman leaves her stomach bare!

Not wanting kids, I would say is a better option than being forced to have kids and resenting it. My view - I do believe life is about choices.

anp73ga31
03-15-2007, 12:12 PM
it's too bad that's become such a common perception. it's not natural (the sour-milk smell, i mean). not anymore natural than epideural's being de rigeur for childbirth... which of course many consider "natural".

I will admit to holding a number of newborn babies...but only while sitting down and only until they start to cry(which usually is a very short time!). And they all smelled like that. Dont know why....

Now later, after they can crawl around and sit up and laugh...THEN some of them smell good like powder. But not good enough for me to want one of my own. :D

And I hate it that parents pounce on the fact that kids love me and leave them with me to entertain...family events always had the kids around me and me having to play with them. Fun for the first hour but then its like, take your kid back! I didn't have them and I didn't come to this event to babysit them for you while you sit at the table with the other adults and talk!

Um, yeah, so tangoing while pregnant.....sorry, BOT. lol!

anp73ga31
03-15-2007, 12:15 PM
Lessee, the two descriptions of giving birth I've heard...pot roast though a cheerio, and taking your bottom lip, and stretching it up and over your head. Neither sounds pleasant.

I'm with you there, peaches! :uplaugh:

Pacion
03-15-2007, 12:15 PM
And I hate it that parents pounce on the fact that kids love me and leave them with me to entertain...family events always had the kids around me and me having to play with them. Fun for the first hour but then its like, take your kid back! I didn't have them and I didn't come to this event to babysit them for you while you sit at the table with the other adults and talk!

:lol: Maybe a half hourly charge may be in order? ;)

samina
03-15-2007, 12:19 PM
i'll never forget when i brought my youngest home... he was 24 hours old... had him at a birthing center, which means he was minimally interfered with after birth. not bathed, not injected.

the way he smelled was like the most fragrant perfume imaginable. a friend of mine came over and she held him and noticed the same thing... intoxicating. that is the natural smell of babies.

but we feed them things they weren't meant to eat, we slather them in chemicals, diaper them in synthecs... IMO, if they don't smell intoxicatingly amazing, it's because of that.

anp73ga31
03-15-2007, 12:21 PM
Not wanting kids, I would say is a better option than being forced to have kids and resenting it. My view - I do believe life is about choices.

I really, really like you. :D

Seriously, though, life IS about making choices and no one should be thought of as "wrong" if their opinion is not mainstream.

quixotedlm
03-15-2007, 12:26 PM
If you dance while pregnant with twin kids, will they ever dance with others besides each other :rolleyes: ?

Peaches
03-15-2007, 12:27 PM
Ick. Newborns.

Babies don't like me any more than I like them. They scream when they see me...honestly. No one asks me to play with little ones. I'm fine once they're about 4.

I will never have the experience of tangoing while pregnant. BOT.

anp73ga31
03-15-2007, 12:28 PM
:lol: Maybe a half hourly charge may be in order? ;)

A babysitting bill for each family function would have been in order, for sure. My cousin had two little boys and often got flustered and irritated with them always wanting something from her(my mom used to get mad at her because she wasnt willing to give up "her" time to play with and do homework with, etc. with her kids), so she would pawn them off on whoever would take them. So at family events they naturally gravitated to me (because I can be quite amusing and childish when need be, apparently!), and she happily left them there. And the rest of the family, thinking children were just WONDERFUL, though it nothing unusual and would even sit all the "children" at the same table even though I was a teenager to late 20s at the time.

BOT, our studio owner's wife danced up until her last couple of months. No quickstep or hustle or anything like that, and she would have to sit down more often, but here's a cool end result....we had fri night practice parties and she went to them while pregnant even if not dancing...her kid now is quite happy in a roomful of people talking while music is playing. One of the songs they played alot there for hustle (too slow, IMO, but I like fast hustles) was Dancing Queen by Abba. And he LOVES that song now....could be taken as good, could be taken as bad. hee hee!

LindyKeya
03-15-2007, 05:47 PM
Yep - had a friend who danced (swing) up until right before she had her first child. Afterwards, the baby could be calmed down if fussy by playing swing music.

Keith
03-16-2007, 01:25 AM
Good for her!

But...
Eeew. Gack. Not funny. Ugh. *shudder* Eeeeeeewwwwwww!!!!!

(OK. So I'm really really squickish about pregnancy and babies and stuff. Ick.)

Sorry about the water breaking joke. After two kids, that stuff does not phase me at all. I think what actually freaked out some of the men when they tango danced with my 9 month pregnant wife was the dancing tummy to tummy rather than chest to chest.

-keith

anp73ga31
03-16-2007, 08:50 AM
I think what actually freaked out some of the men when they tango danced with my 9 month pregnant wife was the dancing tummy to tummy rather than chest to chest.

Ha ha! This is not going to be nice, but when I read this I immediately thought, "Payback!" for the few men I have danced with whose stomachs are indeed so big that you dance stomach to stomach with them. hee hee!! :lol:

samina
03-16-2007, 11:09 AM
Ha ha! This is not going to be nice, but when I read this I immediately thought, "Payback!" for the few men I have danced with whose stomachs are indeed so big that you dance stomach to stomach with them. hee hee!! :lol:

thats funny... :)

pregnant bellies feel quite different, tho... i'd much rather cozy up to that than a beer belly. <heh>

i know it grosses you & peach out, but some men find pregnant women very attractive... the Fertile Goddess incarnate ;)

anp73ga31
03-16-2007, 02:07 PM
i know it grosses you & peach out, but some men find pregnant women very attractive... the Fertile Goddess incarnate ;)

Oh I know! Remember Demi Moore posing naked on the cover of a magazine when she was really big pregnant? I know alot of people were like "wow!" And then after that came all the pregnant women with their half-shirts, proudly showing off their bellies.

To each their own, I guess.... ;)

wooh
03-16-2007, 02:20 PM
thats funny... :)
i know it grosses you & peach out, but some men find pregnant women very attractive... the Fertile Goddess incarnate ;)

I thought men liked it because they'd look and think, "Oh wow, she obviously puts out!":rolleyes:

fascination
03-16-2007, 05:08 PM
Oh I know! Remember Demi Moore posing naked on the cover of a magazine when she was really big pregnant? I know alot of people were like "wow!" And then after that came all the pregnant women with their half-shirts, proudly showing off their bellies.

To each their own, I guess.... ;)
gotta say...that doesn't work for me...oh...and I am for the institutionalized baby smells like baby magic and baby powder...unlike sam, not much into natural baby smell

mamboqueen
03-16-2007, 05:28 PM
The only issue my wife had with tango dancing when she was pregnant was that she made some of the men nervous. I think think they were afraid their shoes may get wet if her water broke. She was dancing at 9+ months. We were dancing on a Friday night and she delivered the following Monday morning.

-keith

OMG! It's a man-thing. When my water broke, my husband's first words were "get off the rug". Ack!

Welcome Keith!

Peaches
03-16-2007, 10:09 PM
OMG! It's a man-thing. When my water broke, my husband's first words were "get off the rug". Ack!

Welcome Keith!
ROTFLMAO!!!

OMG...I'm choking on my salad.

Best...line...ever!!!!!

samina
03-17-2007, 09:11 AM
I thought men liked it because they'd look and think, "Oh wow, she obviously puts out!":rolleyes:

lmao...:uplaugh:

samina
03-17-2007, 09:12 AM
OMG! It's a man-thing. When my water broke, my husband's first words were "get off the rug". Ack!

Welcome Keith!

and again...:uplaugh:

hey, babies & birth offer up a multitude of reasons for hilarity... that much i'm sure is universal! :D

Terpsichorean Clod
03-23-2007, 08:52 PM
I'm not particularly fond of dancing in contact, but since my teacher's pregnant, it looks like pretty soon I won't have much choice about it. :mad:

jamaicanspice
04-23-2007, 02:09 PM
Just think... :roll: it was twisting actions that probably got the woman pregnant in the first place :? ;) :lol:


ROFLMAO!!!! I'm sorry...just seeing this thread for the first time and I have to say.....hilarious!!!!! hahahaha