First Lindy Lesson -- What to Expect?

[pygmalion]

Okay, guys, I've finally broken down and found a place to take lindy lessons (group classes to start).

Any tips/pointers on what to expect, what to wear/bring, how to approach things, and even more important, how to tell if I'm getting good instruction or bad?

Anyone?

[suek]

Okay, guys, I've finally broken down and found a place to take lindy lessons (group classes to start).

Any tips/pointers on what to expect, what to wear/bring, how to approach things, and even more important, how to tell if I'm getting good instruction or bad?

Anyone?

Wear flat shoes that slide. I started in flat sueded or leather-soled dance shoes, now wear flat tennis shoes that I've had sueded. Comfortable clothes. I always wear a tshirt or tank with another layer over. If we get to do a lot of dancing, I often warm up enough to strip down to minimum coverage.

Approach Same as all dance classes: be teachable! Musicality drives improvisation; when I became able to hear the swinging of the beats and the syncopations everything changed for me.

Good instruction or bad Hmm. Danger signs for me: When the leads are told to pull the girl on the five (instead of being told to lead her forward). When the follows are told to come forward (instead of waiting for the lead). What I mean is when the moves are taught without lead/follow principle being the foundation. You might also consider PMing our own world-traveled lindy hop teacher and ask him if he knows your teacher.

I wanna know how it goes, Jenn. I'm enjoying this!

Sue

[Vince A]

Okay, guys, I've finally broken down and found a place to take lindy lessons (group classes to start).

Any tips/pointers on what to expect, what to wear/bring, how to approach things, and even more important, how to tell if I'm getting good instruction or bad?

Anyone?
No tips/pointers . . . just getting my frame-of-mind together in order to do the very same thing.
I read suek comments, and will take them to heart. At least I'll be taking privates from the same person (I pray) as she took from . . . :D

Yes Jenn, keep us posted. Knock 'em dead . . .

As much as I love to dance in my dance sneakers, those shoes do not allow for sliding (spinning-yes), so I'll wear flat lace-up, leather-soled shoes as she suggested. Will I really be sliding that soon, I wonder???

[Sagitta]

That's great news Jenn!! :D I too plan to restart lindy sometime in the future, after I am more comfortable with salsa and ballroom.

Footwear: If you have a comfortable pair of shoes (no heel) that you are willing to sacrifice simply scotch tape the sole and use those. This is very common.

[suek]

That's great news Jenn!! :D I too plan to restart lindy sometime in the future, after I am more comfortable with salsa and ballroom.

Footwear: If you have a comfortable pair of shoes (no heel) that you are willing to sacrifice simply scotch tape the sole and use those. This is very common.

Actually I find plain ol' masking tape to be the slidiest, but it curls and peels off fast, so one might do the edges with duct tape (up the sides, not on the soles) to keep the masking tape in place. That said, here's a caveat: no need to get super slidey at the very beginning. Until you are comfy with the basics and the rhythm and the footwork, shoes that don't stick to the floor are all you need. IMHO.

[Sagitta]

Silly me!! :oops: I meant duct tape. Scotch tape is horrible!!

Also on footwear: Bowling shoes work pretty well. Cheap too!

[Vince A]

Darn Virg, I just ripped off a roll of scotch tape from work! J/K, I knew what you meant.

Thanks Sue. I'll bring the slippery ones, but wear the dance sneakers.

I tried learning the footwork, but it was "suggested" that I wait for the privates - just to insure that I receive that training info correctly.

[Sagitta]

I tried learning the footwork, but it was "suggested" that I wait for the privates - just to insure that I receive that training info correctly.

I too wouldn't recommend trying to learn lindy by yourself.

[Vince A]

I certainly understand why . . . thanks . . . guess it would be like learning to be a surgeon by reading a book and practicing on yourself???

[Sagitta]

I certainly understand why . . . thanks . . . guess it would be like learning to be a surgeon by reading a book and practicing on yourself??? Vs learning basic first aid by yourself, which is doable. :)

[Vince A]

I'll try "anything" twice!!!

[SwinginBoo]

Everyone already gave you great advice. Now for mine...ENJOY IT! You are going to love lindy Jenn, I just know it! :D

[Swing Kitten]

what's not to love? Lindy ROCKS!! err... I mean... SWINGS!!! :D

[pygmalion]

Thanks. I'll give updates. It looks like my biggest challenge is going to be the shoes. I have twenty-something pairs of ballroom shoes, two pairs of cowboy boots, and a pair of bleyers. Maybe I'll go get some cheapo sneakers and duct tape the bottoms. Hmm. :?

[SwinginBoo]

I would go with a sneaker that is very supportive as you will put some intense miles in these shoes. :D

[suek]

Thanks. I'll give updates. It looks like my biggest challenge is going to be the shoes. I have twenty-something pairs of ballroom shoes, two pairs of cowboy boots, and a pair of bleyers. Maybe I'll go get some cheapo sneakers and duct tape the bottoms. Hmm. :?

Jenn, in your extensive collection, see if you have any ballroom flats. They'll do fine for starters.

And remember: it's masking tape on the bottoms, and duct tape around the edges to hold the masking tape in place (best not to have any duct tape on the sole as it inhibits sliding).

Have fun!

[d nice]

Okay, guys, I've finally broken down and found a place to take lindy lessons (group classes to start).

Any tips/pointers on what to expect, what to wear/bring, how to approach things, and even more important, how to tell if I'm getting good instruction or bad?

Anyone?
No tips/pointers . . . just getting my frame-of-mind together in order to do the very same thing.
I read suek comments, and will take them to heart. At least I'll be taking privates from the same person (I pray) as she took from . . . :D

Yes Jenn, keep us posted. Knock 'em dead . . .

As much as I love to dance in my dance sneakers, those shoes do not allow for sliding (spinning-yes), so I'll wear flat lace-up, leather-soled shoes as she suggested. Will I really be sliding that soon, I wonder???

Neither of you will be doing much spinning or sliding soon... that will be at least a few months down the line... but you want shoes that won't let you cheat. If you aren't grounded and moving in a controlled manner, "fast shoes" will point it out to you. Instant feedback. Shoes that grip can allow all sort of bad posturing and weight placement to be ignored.

[d nice]

Jenn, in your extensive collection, see if you have any ballroom flats. They'll do fine for starters.

And remember: it's masking tape on the bottoms, and duct tape around the edges to hold the masking tape in place (best not to have any duct tape on the sole as it inhibits sliding).

Have fun!

You can double layer them. Duct tape on the bottom, masking or athletic tape on that. Duct tape sticks to just about anything, and masking and athletic tape stick to duct tape great.

Then again, a leather soled flat or LOW pump (think an inch or less) will do just great.

My numnber one tip... relax. EVERYTHING. Your mind your body (especially the arms) and let your leader initiate the movement. Once you are moving keep moving until he actually initiates a styop... not when and where you "think" you are suppossed to stop but where he actually reduces or redirects your momentum.

[d nice]

Thanks. I'll give updates. It looks like my biggest challenge is going to be the shoes. I have twenty-something pairs of ballroom shoes, two pairs of cowboy boots, and a pair of bleyers. Maybe I'll go get some cheapo sneakers and duct tape the bottoms. Hmm. :?

Actually Bleyers are just fine to start with... make a note you will probably never hear/see me say that again. Bleyers "Swivels", the wedgies they have are pretty good, a better quality also. YOu can always just suede or tape up your Bleyers until you have decided you want to "invest" in a apir of shoes for Lindy Hop.

I wish you luck Jenn, and welcome to the "Collective".

[pygmalion]

Ah yes. I can feel a mind meld coming on. :lol: :lol:

I know I'm showing my total ignorance here, but exactly WHERE does the tape go? All over the shoe bottom? Just the ball of the foot? Where? :?:

And somebody talk to me about lindy posture versus ballroom posture -- from the pictures I've seen, they're totally different.

[d nice]

You'd put tape on the front half of the shoe normally... but those that like heel slides and stuff will cover the whole bottom... I wouldn't recommend this yet.

As to the posture for the Lindy Hop... think basketball. Lindy Hop is an athletic dance, it doesn't matter if you are dancing at 115 bpm or 315 (and yes we dance this range) you need to be able to change directions in any direction in an instant.

Your weight should be on the ball of your foot, your bent knee over the ball of the weight bearing foot and your sternum over the bent knee. Keep the natural bounce that will result and keep the posture... The arms are relaxed the elbows dropped "pointing at the ground".

[pygmalion]

Thanks. That makes sense.

I'm really excited! I'll check in with updates tomorrow evening. :D 8)

[Swing Kitten]

This is great Jenn! Best of luck with it! :P

[Dancegal]

How was it? Inquiring minds want to know :D

[pygmalion]

Well ... To be honest, I didn't much like it. In all fairness, it's much different from the dancing I've been doing, and it feels weird to be a "newbie" again. (I haven't learned a totally new dance in a year and a half, at least) So I guess a rocky start is to be expected. I have another group lesson Friday and next Sunday, and a private lesson this weekend. We'll see what happens then. :? 8)

[Sagitta]

Right!! But when you get it, even once, it makes it all worth while! Just keep plugging away at it. It's like any dance where you, your partner, and the music become one!! Heavenly bliss! :)

[Vince A]

Oh No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o . . . :( . . . and I hate that newbie, two-left footed, what the hell are you doing feeling.

I gotta do it too Jenn . . . come on . . . let's get motivated together and get some other dancers to start taking lessons and to join in on an online-diary on this subject???

[Sagitta]

Well. You can blame Cindy Overstreet for me not starting a new dance!! I wanted to do WCS 1 this month, 2 next month, then start taking her speciality topic classes after that!! She offers WCS on Thursday!! I have rueda practice on Thursdays!! Grrrr!!!! Now if you can convince her to switch days, such as to Monday I'll definitely join the team of "learning an completely new dance".

[suek]

I'm loving this spate of ballroom/salsa dancers who are taking a peek at this lindy hop that I love so much. If my enthusiasm (see the DF awards) -- as well as that of the other diehard lindy hoppers on DF -- had anything to do with it then hooray. If not hooray anyway.

Jenn, don't give up. Took me some time to get a glimmer of the fun here, esp coming from ballroom, as I did too.

[pygmalion]

Hey. what can I say? It took me a year to stop HATING East Coast Swing. Now I love it. I can give lindy hop at least a couple weeks of my time.

The upside is that the leads outnumber follows in this class two to one, so I never have to sit one out. I'm sure things will improve, as soon as I stop feeling like a doofus. :oops: :lol:

[Sagitta]

Why am I not suprised? I noticed this when I took lindy classes!!! Extremely frustrating! :headwall: But, great for you Pygmalion. :cheers:

[Swing Kitten]

Oh No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o . . . :( . . . and I hate that newbie, two-left footed, what the hell are you doing feeling.

that was me last night... new shoes... ... new (for me) venue... ...extremely follow heavy... ...really hurt my friend's back :cry: (not while dancing at least)... despite the fun I had I wish I didn't go. :oops:

[Vince A]

Oh No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o . . . :( . . . and I hate that newbie, two-left footed, what the hell are you doing feeling.

that was me last night... new shoes... ... new (for me) venue... ...extremely follow heavy... ...really hurt my friend's back :cry: (not while dancing at least)... despite the fun I had I wish I didn't go. :oops:
Care to elaborate a little more on the "fun wish?"

[Swing Kitten]

Care to elaborate a little more on the "fun wish?"

???

I had some fun

all and all I should have stayed home

[pygmalion]

Breaking in new shoes (and a new venue at the same time :shock: Ye gods!) stinks. It'll be better next week.

[Vince A]

It WILL BE BETTER next week . . . I promise!

[Dancegal]

Practice the swingout - Practice the swingout - Practice the swingout - and Practice It Some More :D

[Dancegal]

Just curious - why did you hate East Coast Swing at one point???

[Swing Kitten]

Breaking in new shoes (and a new venue at the same time :shock: Ye gods!) stinks. It'll be better next week.

Thanks Vince and Jenn... it will be better-- next week I'll be in CT and at my most comfortable venue and will keep working on my shoes and my dancing (and my friend will be a lot safer!)

[danceguy]

Hey. what can I say? It took me a year to stop HATING East Coast Swing. Now I love it. I can give lindy hop at least a couple weeks of my time.

The upside is that the leads outnumber follows in this class two to one, so I never have to sit one out. I'm sure things will improve, as soon as I stop feeling like a doofus.

Hi Pygmalion,

Sorry to hear the Lindy classes didn't go well. I actually enjoyed learning it, but all of the constant changing of directions was a bit much for me. Once my posture is a little better I may end up trying it again...but overall I thought it was fun...

A year to get over hating ECS? Wow, are you still on the outs with Hustle like I am? I can hardly stand to even watch it these days... :?

Best,

SG

[pygmalion]

I'm with you SG. Still can't stand hustle. *shudder*

[Vince A]

Did I miss "why" you two hate the hustle???

[pygmalion]

Um. Because of the th-thunk you feel when your partner rocks back over their heels instead of staying forward posied, because the rhythm is very different for many people to feel, so it's hard for me to dance (I can feel the rhythm easily). And most importantly, I'm guessing, because I haven't done enough of it yet. Every other dance I've tried has grown on me in time.

I'll try again. But for the moment, it's a hate-hate thing. :evil:

[Vince A]

Um. Because of the th-thunk you feel when your partner rocks back over their heels instead of staying forward posied, because the rhythm is very different for many people to feel, so it's hard for me to dance (I can feel the rhythm easily). And most importantly, I'm guessing, because I haven't done enough of it yet. Every other dance I've tried has grown on me in time.

I'll try again. But for the moment, it's a hate-hate thing. :evil:
A little help . . .
1. Remember the posts on "coaster stepping?"

You already said, forward poised, which is correct, but now you do want to keep the motion moving through the dance . . . one continuous flow . . . so it could be a "kind of coaster step" since most have done that.
2. Forget the arm styling for now . . . I know that you are trying to learn the dance as well as the great arm movements that goes with the female part (more so than men do - I do some) part of the dance.

Lastly . . . both of us may give up on hustle as we learn to Lindy, as I want something for those really fast songs (like Brian Setzer stuff) when and ECS or WCS won't cut it! I think that Lindy will provide that!

[bgirlswinger]

OKay I must say that if you do live in Jacksonville I would like to meet you and it bothers me that I don't know you. lol ....um I fee lanother pm message comming on. Who is teachign you,. .and where.
-amber d.

[pygmalion]

I live in Orlando. That would explain that. I'm only in Jacksonville occasionally -- it's just a two hour drive, so it's not impossible to get there. Just tough on weeknights. Weekends? No problem. I'm taking lessons with an Orlando-based couple -- I'll PM you the names and you can give me the scoop, if you've heard of them. We definitely will meet, and soon. :D

[bgirlswinger]

rob and dawn are awsome swing danceers that teach out there. I don't know if you learn from them but I know they are great and I have taken a workshop from them in the past. UCF has swing dances every friday that are 5 dollars and there is a lesson before the dance. That starts at 7:30 i believe. There is a good range of dancers both in age and in dancing experience. Some of the peopel , not all are students there and so they are new to the "swing scene."

1st Saturdays @ Dance Orlando
Next dance: 02/07/2004 Click for Directions
An awesome place to dance, hangout, and make new friends! Formerly "Night Moves", this club features a huge smooth tile dance floor buffed and waxed to dance perfection. The nightclub-like atmosphere makes this dance a great place to hangout, dance, and spend and evening out. Both FFP and guest DJs spin the best in swing, big band, blues, jump blues and boogie woogie for your dancing inspiration! No external food and drink allowed, but the venue features snacks, drinks, and fountain drinks for sale.

Beginner Dance Lesson: 8-9pm
Dance: 9pm-12am
Admission: $5


2nd Saturdays @ Whirl & Twirl
Next dance: 02/14/2004 Click for Directions
A favorite dance spot in Orlando for almost two years! This venue features a quaint atmosphere and the best dance floor in Orlando. Most months music is spun by some of Orlando’s top swing DJs... but watch the schedule for special events... sometimes this dance hosts live music! Also watch the schedule for special afternoon workshops that accompany this dance. Some snacks and beverages are available for free, but feel free to bring your own food and drink (no alcohol please).

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Dance: 9pm-12am
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3rd Saturdays @ Dance Orlando
Starting January 17th. Click for Directions
Cap off the month with another great dance at Dance Orlando! Grab your friends and come hangout and dance the night away! Both FFP and guest DJs spin the best in swing, big band, blues, jump blues and boogie woogie for your dancing inspiration! No external food and drink allowed, but the venue features snacks, drinks, and fountain drinks for sale.

Beginner Dance Lesson: 8-9pm
Dance: 9pm-12am
Admission: $5

ffp= flying footwork production which is the organization that rob and dawn put together to set up worshops and dances i nthe orlando area.
all of these dances have a lesson and there is a good crowd out there.

I lived and danced in Orlando for a year so I kind of know the scene there. I have been away for a year as well but I do visit and work at disney when i am in town. well ttyl-
-amber d.

[pygmalion]

Rob and Dawn are great -- nice people, and a lot of focus on the important stuff right from the beginning -- connection, partnership. I am really impressed with them -- both their teaching and their dancing. 8)

[suek]

Vince just left my house...he drove up from Modesto to take his first lindy lesson from Damon and I was his happy-to-do-it partner for the lesson.

Yes! Resistance is futile, Vince...the style shift has begun. Welcome to lindy hop world.

Silliness aside, it was much fun to meet Vince and his wife Carolyn who watched and took pictures I'm afraid we'll be seeing soon right here. And any opportunity I get to do 150 swingouts in an hour can only benefit me. I love practicing basics. Helps improve my dancing.

Best,

Sue

[Swing Kitten]

It will be interesting to hear what Vince has to say about the experience :D


yipppeeee!

[SDsalsaguy]

It will be interesting to hear what Vince has to say about the experience :D


yipppeeee!
Indeed! :D

So Vince, what say you?

[Vince A]

Do you "really" want to know???

[Sagitta]

Now I do too!! :)

[Vince A]

Believe me . . . it WAS an experience, and another DF reunion!

First, it's nice to have someone so well versed at teaching as d nice is be so close to where I live. He seems like a great guy to know! Oh, and he CAN dance!

I arrived at suek's house (great wooden floor) about ten minutes early. Met suek and introduced myself and then introduced her to my wife, Carolyn.

We chatted for a few minutes, then we did a very, very fast WCS to warm up, which is something I don't do. I do WCS very slow. I guess those Lindy dancers like their music fast! I muddled through it and suek suffered! suek is a very good dancer, by the way!

Anyway . . . d nice arrived followed by more introductions. He looks just like his avatar.

We chatted for a few minutes, then he and suek showed me "Lindy."

It only 'looked' easy. I was in for a surprise. I really felt like I "had two left feet." You know - a rookie! I know I was to Lindy, but hell, I can do starter steps with rock steps and swingouts, etc. Sure I can.

But the count was different, and, oh yes, you have to "bounce." (Bounce - somethng my Pro has worked on for years making sure I do not do it!)
I swear, d nice and suek showed me the rock step a dozen times, and I think I may have done it once really close to correct. It's not easy folks!

I do the exact same starter step, but could not get the Lindy style to save my a**. The I was shown how to do swing outs from the closed and open positions.

Once I get the pictures, you see me looking confused, looking down, etc.

By the time the lesson was over . . . I did fell somewhat better. d nice recapped and gave a few things to practice in front of the mirror at home.

What d I think of Lindy? GO ahead . . . ask me???

[SwinginBoo]

So Vince, what do you think of Lindy? :tongue:

It seems hard I'm sure. But you were probably great and having the background in WCS is a help I would think. Although I can understand the difficulty with the bounce since WCS is so completely opposite. I guess my suggestion would be to listen to the music. Your body will feel the bounce I think if you let it.

Oh and the fast lindy music is fun, but slower tempos are great to do some smooth lindy to.

I hope you enjoy your venture into lindy-land Vince. Good luck with it! Keep us posted. :wink:

[Vince A]

So Vince, what do you think of Lindy? :tongue:

It seems hard I'm sure. But you were probably great and having the background in WCS is a help I would think. Although I can understand the difficulty with the bounce since WCS is so completely opposite. I guess my suggestion would be to listen to the music. Your body will feel the bounce I think if you let it.

Oh and the fast lindy music is fun, but slower tempos are great to do some smooth lindy to.

I hope you enjoy your venture into lindy-land Vince. Good luck with it! Keep us posted. :wink:
Thank you Boo . . .

I LIKE IT!
It's like unedited WCS . . .

Everything that I have learned in WCS??? - I have to do the opposite now.

There is more of a full-hand hold instead of fingertips.
Now my thumb has to be down on the top of the followers hand (but no pressure) . . . took me 3 years to break the habit of having my thumb there!
My anchor involves continuing back on the 8 count, before stepping one.
ANd my big bitc, er um, "gripe" . . . is that I have SO hard to become smooth, and now I have to "bounce?"

No problem! I have the best teacher a dancer could have, and I have a wonderful dance partner during my learning process - I only hope she holds out!

By the way . . . my next lesson is already booked!

[SwinginBoo]

I LIKE IT!
It's like unedited WCS . . .

Everything that I have learned in WCS??? - I have to do the opposite now.

There is more of a full-hand hold instead of fingertips.
Now my thumb has to be down on the top of the followers hand (but no pressure) . . . took me 3 years to break the habit of having my thumb there!
My anchor involves continuing back on the 8 count, before stepping one.
ANd my big bitc, er um, "gripe" . . . is that I have SO hard to become smooth, and now I have to "bounce?"

No problem! I have the best teacher a dancer could have, and I have a wonderful dance partner during my learning process - I only hope she holds out!

By the way . . . my next lesson is already booked!

See you already have a handle on the major points and differences btwn lindy and WCS. (which by the way is no small feat! you wouldn't believe the people who say, "lindy and WCS are the same dance basically")

Good for you! It's always excited to have another scheduled lesson to look forward to. (Just as an aside my next lesson adventure is a 3 hour bal workshop followed by a 2hour private :D . I can't wait!)

[Vince A]

Thanks for the kudos . . .

Enjot that workshop . . . Damon has an all day Lindy workshop coming on Feb 28 . . . I hope he'll have me dancing by then.

I practiced "bouncing" last night . . . for an hour, no less! But I know it is important.

By the way, I just put a few pictures up of the three of us!

[suek]

First, it's nice to have someone so well versed at teaching as d nice is be so close to where I live. He seems like a great guy to know! Oh, and he CAN dance! I arrived at suek's house (great wooden floor) about ten minutes early. Met suek and introduced myself and then introduced her to my wife, Carolyn. We chatted for a few minutes, then we did a very, very fast WCS to warm up, which is something I don't do. I do WCS very slow. I guess those Lindy dancers like their music fast! I muddled through it and suek suffered! suek is a very good dancer, by the way! phew! There I was planning to say something huffy about your compliment to Dnice and no mention of me...and then there it is only seven sentences later. I am so relieved!
There is more of a full-hand hold instead of fingertips. Now my thumb has to be down on the top of the followers hand (but no pressure) . . . took me 3 years to break the habit of having my thumb there!Vince, feel free to keep the thumb up. What Dnice meant to convey--and he'll correct me if I'm wrong I am so sure--is that IF the thumb rests on your follow's hand there is to be no pressure applied. But it's totally okay to have it off her hand altogether.
I have the best teacher a dancer could have, and I have a wonderful dance partner during my learning process - I only hope she holds out!Don't worry about me...I love working on basics and I had great fun...By the way . . . my next lesson is already booked!Like I said, resistance is futile.

[SwinginBoo]

Those pictures are awesome Vince!!! You look like you are really concentrating. And you're right, D Nice does look just like his avatar. (Muy Bonito! :wink: )

[Vince A]

Sue, I would never leave you out of the compliments . . . you were very helpful to me on Saturday! I appreciate you hanging in there for future lessons, too!

He made sure that he pointed out about "no pressure" with the thumb.

Then only thing about learning Lindy, is that no one around here does it!
Guess I'll have to learn it well enough to teach it . . . OK . . . no laughing.

Thanks Boo . . . I was concentrating, but I may have been concentrating too hard, I knew I had one of the best Lindy instructors and I wanted catch every action and word that he delivered.
but I wanted to

[Dancegal]

Pygmalion - how are your Lindy lessons going?

[Vince A]

Jenn,
So how are thye going???

Mine are going great . . . Damon is a wonderful instructor/teacher, and although he has a tough time ahead of him (trying to get the WCS similiararities out of my head while trying to learn Lindy), I more than know he is the man to do it! I wouldn't want anyone else . . . I'm fortunate that he is so close!

We're into the Charleston already . . . YOWZA!

[alfborge]

Hey, don't stop now! How's you all doing? Jenn? Pygmalion? Vince?

[suek]

yeah vince, wassup?

jenn? you still going to reno?

[jdavidb]

Another way to tell if someone's a bad instructor is if they're carrying around a riding crop or a leather strap. If they try to make ya strip down and wear a bridle and saddle, just run!

[SDsalsaguy]

Another way to tell if someone's a bad instructor is if they're carrying around a riding crop or a leather strap. If they try to make ya strip down and wear a bridle and saddle, just run!
Let's not be too judgemental here...to each their own, right? :wink: :lol:

[jdavidb]

Let's not be too judgemental here...to each their own, right? :wink: :lol:

heheheh I don't think pony training is what they mean by lead/follow techniques. :lol:

[Sagitta]

And getting back on topic....hwo are the lindy lessons going Pygmalion? I'm guesing you are making good progress as you seem to be in the know about lindy exchanges and such in your area? Am I correct?