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Dave Bailey
08-27-2008, 02:43 AM
As an addition to my glossary (http://www.jivetango.co.uk/Gettingstarted/Glossary.html), I'd like to have links from terms to vids or pics which illustrate that term (for example, ochos, volcadas, and so on).

Now, I could spend hours in front of youtube, but before I do, does anyone know of a definitive resource for this type of thing which already exists?

I've done some Googling, but I couldn't find anything...

bordertangoman
08-27-2008, 03:20 AM
As an addition to my glossary (http://www.jivetango.co.uk/Gettingstarted/Glossary.html), I'd like to have links from terms to vids or pics which illustrate that term (for example, ochos, volcadas, and so on).

Now, I could spend hours in front of youtube, but before I do, does anyone know of a definitive resource for this type of thing which already exists?

I've done some Googling, but I couldn't find anything...

oN Youtube there are some didactic demos by Homer Ladas - albeit on more advanced moves.

I think Jennifer Bratt has done some beutiful demos of adornos. search under "Maleva"

Dave Bailey
08-27-2008, 04:39 AM
oN Youtube there are some didactic demos by Homer Ladas - albeit on more advanced moves.

I think Jennifer Bratt has done some beutiful demos of adornos. search under "Maleva"
Thanks, but I was hoping more for a "BigListOfMoves website with demos" which I could link to, being a lazy so-and-so.

Anyone know if there is such a site?

bordertangoman
08-27-2008, 05:33 AM
Thanks, but I was hoping more for a "BigListOfMoves website with demos" which I could link to, being a lazy so-and-so.

Anyone know if there is such a site?

I think the expression "In your dreams" comes to mind ;)

Light Sleeper
08-27-2008, 05:59 AM
Don't think there are any "KISS" tango guides on youtube. There's a guy called Dario who goes through moves on youtube "Dario's tango guide". Oscar Casas has some excellent vids on. I don't think either of these would serve as a 'Newbie's Guide' though. Both worth checking out though, deffo.

Dave Bailey
08-27-2008, 06:50 AM
I think the expression "In your dreams" comes to mind ;)
Yes, I got that sinking "You'll have to do it yourself" feeling when I couldn't find anything initially :(

Zoopsia59
08-27-2008, 12:18 PM
Don't think there are any "KISS" tango guides on youtube. There's a guy called Dario who goes through moves on youtube "Dario's tango guide".

The problem I have with the Dario's Tango Guide videos, is that he shows the moves exclusively in combinations. So you have to really concentrate (especially when they are showing the lead and follow parts separately) to figure out which steps are the move itself. I had to watch the video for axis turns over and over and over to really get it because there are so many steps he's taking that are irrelavant to doing the turn itself. He's adding basic to the cross, and resolutions and stuff that you wouldn't actually have to do everytime just to put that move into your dance.

I would prefer if he showed the move, and the breakdown of the move, and then only at the end, showed how the move can be fit into various combinations with different things around it. But its typical of many lessons and classes to teach a whole combination instead of an element. (and then people get out on the floor and can't complete the whole combination and don't know how else to use the move)

The videos are also filmed from the "on the dance floor" angle of the dance rather than the actual off dance floor angle, with Dario traveling right to left on your screen for some of it. (as though the viewer is in the center of the dance floor rather than the angle you would usually be seeing people dance) Or I guess you could say its as though you are at the tables, but he is at the end of the room away from you rather than passing in front of you.

So as a leader, I have to translate into imagining I am behind him which requires me to think of mirroring what he is doing. In the portions where he is showing the leader's step along, he may start facing the viewer, once again requiring the viewer to learn by mirroring rather than being behind him. As soon as he starts any kind of turn, it gets confusing.

The videos are very well made and the concept is great. The various segments in each lesson are a really good idea. It just misses the mark for me because of the viewing angle and the fact that they don't even show the move alone without lots of other steps in the explanation.

dchester
08-27-2008, 12:52 PM
The videos are very well made and the concept is great. The various segments in each lesson are a really good idea. It just misses the mark for me because of the viewing angle and the fact that they don't even show the move alone without lots of other steps in the explanation. That's interesting. For me, I actually like the other steps, as it helps me to see how to get into the move, and how to come out of it (from something familiar). Once I think I have it down, then I'll look at the first step prior to the move being taught, to see if I can vary things (that's when I feel I have reached basic competency on it). BTW, if you ever get a chance to take a class from him in person, I really recommend it, although he recently moved to Europe (Spain I think), so he won't be so available in the US anymore.

Me
08-27-2008, 04:29 PM
The closest I can think is different people have uploaded exerpts from the tango fundamentals videos with Cecilia Gonzalez and Fabian Salas. Here is one of the uploads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHVNJNUZx48

Not sure if copyright laws were observed...

dchester
08-27-2008, 05:13 PM
The closest I can think is different people have uploaded exerpts from the tango fundamentals videos with Cecilia Gonzalez and Fabian Salas. Here is one of the uploads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHVNJNUZx48

Not sure if copyright laws were observed... [HiJack Mode]

Cecilia will be one of the instructors at the Tango de los Muertos festival in November (6th - 9th), so if you are on the east coast (Boston area), it might be worth the trek (and as an extra added bonus, you might even get to meet me while there).

:mrgreen:

http://www.tangodelosmuertos.com/artists.html

[/HiJack Mode]

Me
08-27-2008, 08:00 PM
[HiJack Mode]

Cecilia will be one of the instructors at the Tango de los Muertos festival in November (6th - 9th), so if you are on the east coast (Boston area), it might be worth the trek (and as an extra added bonus, you might even get to meet me while there).

:mrgreen:

http://www.tangodelosmuertos.com/artists.html

[/HiJack Mode]

Oh, the hijack is most welcome. Cecilia is da' bomb! Well worth taking classes from.

Angel HI
08-28-2008, 03:49 AM
The closest I can think is different people have uploaded exerpts from the tango fundamentals videos with Cecilia Gonzalez and Fabian Salas. Here is one of the uploads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHVNJNUZx48

Not sure if copyright laws were observed...

Agreed. These are probably the best that are currently available for beginners. Trenner and Shulman have some vids as well, but the Salas / Gonzalez ones are more didact.

Dave Bailey
08-28-2008, 04:47 AM
From the "vocabulary" thread:
http://www.havefunwithtango.com/

Seems to do what I want - anyone else used this? It looks great on first impressions, very comprehensive.

newbie
08-28-2008, 05:28 AM
Here is a web page with the names of moves and lil videos demonstrating them. It's based on old instructional stuff by Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy

ht tp://w w w.tangocity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&Itemid=48

Angel HI
08-28-2008, 03:04 PM
From the "vocabulary" thread:
http://www.havefunwithtango.com/

Seems to do what I want - anyone else used this?

I have been aware of this site. Didn't mention it b/c I thought you wanted videos, and as I remember, it only has, though very comprehensive, what might be 'confusing' foot pattern charts.

Here is a web page with the names of moves and lil videos demonstrating them. It's based on old instructional stuff by Osvaldo Zotto & Mora Godoy

ht tp://w w w.tangocity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&Itemid=48

Yes, thanks. I had not mentioned the Zotto/Godoy vids which are very good. Like the Salas/Gonzales ones, they show the overall sequence; the man's/lady's views; and, offers a little technique. The only drawback...they also tend to drag out or create "patterns" to describe the movements.

opendoor
08-28-2008, 11:50 PM
..does anyone know of a definitive resource for this...

You can find some material at www.marseilletango.fr (Galerie Vidéo (http://www.marseilletango.fr/PageGalerieVideo.htm)). Don´t know whether the www.tangovideoproject.com is still on?

Greetings

Dave Bailey
08-29-2008, 08:59 AM
I have been aware of this site. Didn't mention it b/c I thought you wanted videos
Vids or pics, either are good.

I'll evaluate the site to see if I understand it, but it looks good on initial viewing.

You can find some material at www.marseilletango.fr (http://www.marseilletango.fr) (Galerie Vidéo (http://www.marseilletango.fr/PageGalerieVideo.htm)).
Thanks, I'll check those.

Don´t know whether the www.tangovideoproject.com (http://www.tangovideoproject.com) is still on?
No, I think that's been dead for a year or more now :(

opendoor
08-29-2008, 11:58 AM
Think you have already examined

videos.tango.info (http://videos.tango.info/)

and www.oabrazo.blogspot.com

opendoor
09-01-2008, 09:02 AM
concerning the castigada, I ...

found this ... done by Dario and Claire on Emiliano´s (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=emilianodelau) channel..

Thinks it´s a rich source as well.