Club Dancing Index (Includes Grinding) [Archive]

pygmalion

04-06-2004, 09:20 AM

We have gotten so many requests for general club dancing information lately, that I think it's time to start keeping all of the threads together in one place. Have fun, kids. :D
I have no idea how to dance:( (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=2232)
Too much grinding (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=2510)
Learn dancing (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=2553)
Freestyle dancing (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=1419)
bustamove.com (http://www.bustamove.com/cgi-bin/scripts/post_link.pl?p=hip_f&d=&b=864992264964)
Most useful/least useful club dances (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=3193)

katiecatx3

04-26-2004, 04:43 PM

i really need some help. every time i go to a dance...i feel so out of place :oops: . i wanna know how to grind and do cooler dance moves. can anyone instruct me on how to grind and do anyother moves that they know of ! it would be REALLY appreciated ! :D

pygmalion

04-26-2004, 04:46 PM

Hi katiecatx3. Welcome. :D

Take a look at the conversation mentioned at the top of this thread: I have no idea how to dance. (Just click on the words -- you'll automatically link to the right thread.) That thread has step by step grinding instructions. :wink: :D

Good luck.

Jenn 8) :D

NickyD123

08-08-2004, 10:24 PM

As a new member, I've arrived with a positive attitude and some basic dance skill. I feel that this post could be good for all the people(including myself) that want to take the next step towards becoming a better dancer. Anyone with any suggestions on different dances and/or other advice would be greatly appreciated :!: This could help meet people and enjoy the night life where going to clubs is common in your area :wink:

ThatHaitianSwede

08-08-2004, 10:49 PM

welcome to df nicky! I think there might be other threads about this but I'll give you my thoughts on this. Check out the thread about pop-locking and I can't dance or something :D

I just want to say that one of the first things you would want to do to learn club moves, is to go the club. I go to the latin club so once there, it's easy to pick up dances such as merengue and bachata and with the usual pre-party dance lesson, you can learn the basics in cumbia and salsa. As the follow you can literally become an amazing dancer by just going to the club over and over again. As the leader... You might want to start wit more rigid training in group classes at a studio or something just to get the basics going.

That's my basic advice for latin dance, which I highly recomment you pick up if you haven't. I would also recommend that you pick up some blues. Just the basic body roll and stepping is enough which you can do to a whole lot of hip-hop bump n grind music now a days.

Ohh yeah, watch music videos :D Usher's Yeah is a great one, they got the A-town stomp, the muscle and 'rock away,. rock away rock away'...

good luck

Sagitta

08-09-2004, 01:38 AM

Welcome to df NickyD123!! We do have a whole slew of club dancing threads in this forum, right at the top. It's not only going club dancing, but first you must determine what the type of music you like. You aren't going to do well at a dance if you don't like it. Start there first, then figure out how you are going to learn to dance at the clubs that play that music.

Can'tDance

08-17-2004, 10:03 AM

Hi Everybody,

I Am new to the site and to the forum. i would like to start off by saying I CAN'T DANCE if my life depended on it. that's why i am here, because i was discouraged many times when i have gone to the nightclubs and had to watch my friends dance and have a good time on the dancefloor. thant's when i said to myself it's about time i learn how to dance, i luv club dance music straight out beats ie. Euro, House, Trance. My Goal is to learn how to freestyle club dance. if anybody out there can teach me the basics on how to dance to this type of music and look cool that would be awesome.

Thanks,

Leo

lundasalsa

08-17-2004, 10:13 AM

I CAN'T DANCE if my life depended on it. that's why i am here, because i was discouraged many times when i have gone to the nightclubs and had to watch my friends dance and have a good time on the dancefloor.Sounds familiar to me. Part of it may be due you being afraid of making a fool out of yourself. Some people need alcohol to loosen up. For me, salsa lessons helped me to feel more at ease moving my body, even though most club music (120 bpm?) is way to slow for salsa steps (usually around 180 bpm) and most salsa moves don't make sense if you dance solo. Fortunately, after the salsa virus had caught me, the idea of solo club dancing wasn't all that appealing anymore anyway. :)

Can'tDance

08-17-2004, 11:53 AM

I See what you mean, i do get really embarrased if i go on the floor (which is RARELY) cause for one thing i'm afraid of looking stupid and number two i cant dance.. i dont know if salsa will help me in solo danceing b/c at nightclubs everyone is freestyling and doing their own solo thing which is kool but i have no rhythm or nothing.. i just need some help and i really really really want to learn. i haven't considered dancing lessons cause i'm the shy type. i wanna learn to dance by prom thats my main goal..

if anyone can help i'm in despereate need.

thanks,

Leo

Can'tDance

08-17-2004, 12:54 PM

Hey Folks, I'm 17 years old, and i would just like to learn how to dance @ clubs. as you guys havent figured out my name I SUCK AT DANCING!! and i would really love to learn how to dance club style dancing. If anyone out there can just teach me the basics i am willing to learn..

Thanks Alot,
Leo

Rocafella

08-17-2004, 01:48 PM

cl5814

08-17-2004, 02:08 PM

Check out this thread...

http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3089

cl5814

08-17-2004, 02:08 PM

Check out this thread...

http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3089

Sagitta

08-17-2004, 02:22 PM

I'm in the same situation, I can't dance to save myself and I want to learn the Usher type dancing, I'm not sure what style of dancing it is because I don't know anything about dancing. I'm willing to spend time and effort learning but I would prefer to learn how to dance "like usher" on my own. Could anybody tell me his style of dancing, I imagine its his own style but what his style is based on. I would appreciate if someone could tell me how I should start and if they know any websites that have videos or instructions on how to dance. Sorry for butting in on the thread Can'tDance but when I saw this thread I didn't see the point in starting a new one.

Welcome to df Rocafella and Can'tDance!! And I'm glad that you are a salsa dance now lundasalsa. Join the club! :D

Now that the pleasantries are over cl5814 pointed out a really good thread. Check it out and study all the links there. I do partner dancing and some club, and I do check it out myself now and then!! As for Usher some possible links are provided below:

http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=4196&highlight=usher

http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=48186#48186

http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=2024&highlight=usher

Have fun. :)

Sagitta

08-17-2004, 02:25 PM

Thanks cl5814. :D

Can'tDance

08-17-2004, 02:52 PM

Thats Kool, But it really doesnt help me i am looking more for nightclub dance music style of dancing IE. Euro, Freestyle, Trance. I just wanna dance how they dance in the nightclubs it's that simple i dont wanna hear anything about salsa dancing or anything like that. i just wanna learn the good old freestyle how they do it at the clubs. PLEASE HELP OUT A BAD DANCER IN NEED. ummm.. is there any sites that teach online club dancing or anything like that or can someone on this site teach me as i am a beginner,,

thanks alot,

LEO

Anonymous

08-18-2004, 12:07 AM

Well Welcome, but you really should change your name! :D

You might not be able to dance NOW, but SOMEDAY you will! I can't dance WELL now, BUT if I were properly educated in dancing, I could. Yes, I'm worried about looking goofy, but social and "fun" dancing isn't ABOUT looking good- it's about having fun and being friends, and appreciating good music. I'll bet you at LEAST have a better dance partner than I do! Mine has four legs and whinnies. He's fine on grapevines and ganchos, but really gets upset with arm-styling and spins. He kicks his heels up a bit high. He's not happy whether he's leading OR following- how is THAT for a bad dancer? :P

I might be a chunky gal, and I might be kind of klutzy and dorky, but I have a body with two legs and arms and a cheesy gap-toothed cheesy grin. This fall when I go to our horse show after parties, I fully plan on dressing a little skanky, *(GASP)* putting on MAKEUP, and guess what- TRYING TO DANCE. If I look dumb, so what- at least I'M having fun, and if the others are getting a kick out of watching me? That's fine. I'm glad I could provide some entertainment for them. I'm certainly cheaper than pay-per-view! ROFL

Chin up. I've NO room to talk, but I like hearing my head rattle at this hour!
My favorite line of all time from any movie was
"Fat Bitches need love too, Craig" from Next Friday. Baby-D was chasing Ice Cube around a car. Priceless delivery.

Teehee, Benadryl and Fundip are COOL together :lol:

Pickmeuplove

08-22-2004, 12:25 PM

Dancing (at least grinding/ prom dancing) is like kissing, you can't really verbally explain how to do it. Watch other people who are dancing well, try to imitate them. Learn the cha-cha! :D

pygmalion

08-22-2004, 12:28 PM

Hi pickmeuplove. Welcome to the forums. :D

grinding=prom dancing? That's a new one. 8) Interesting, funny, true in a lot of cases, and new. Gotta tell my friends. :wink: :lol:

Sagitta

08-22-2004, 12:31 PM

Welcome to df pickmeuplove. Glad to have you with us. :D

Pickmeuplove

08-22-2004, 09:59 PM

:D thanks for the welcome everybody...such a nice forum. trust me, i've been to some mean ones...

SDsalsaguy

08-22-2004, 11:22 PM

:D thanks for the welcome everybody...such a nice forum. trust me, i've been to some mean ones...
:lol: Believe me, so have we... that's why we're here now! Welcome to the DF! :D

corvettefreak80

11-06-2004, 12:34 AM

Hi. I am new to the forum. I have been reading all the info of the posts on club dancing. I have learned a lot. Here is my delima. Awhile ago I tried to dance in a club and made a fool of myself. I am no good at this dancing. I have taken classes with my girlfriend for formal dancing like the Waltz and others, but this is different. I read that I should take salsa. I can pick up rhythm. I can even move my hips to the music. It still feels mechanical though. I am practicing. I dont have any idea what I am suppose to do with my arms while dancing. My girlfriend likes to go dancing. She knows that I am insecure about dancing. I want to get decent or even good. I want to go out with her and surprise her. Anything that means a lot to her, means a lot to me. If anyone could inform me of what I am suppose to be doing with my arms while I am in a group of friends dancing by myself and also what I am suppose to do with my hands/arms while dancing with her. Any other advise is welcome. Thanks so much for any information. It is much appreciated.

cocodrilo

11-06-2004, 04:27 AM

Taking lessons will help. Everyone feels "mechanical" at first. Hip hop is funky & cool, salsa is suave & sexy. Take your pick, or just do BOTH! Whereas the hip hop arm positioning can be pretty much anywhere(although I don't care for that "mummy look" when they are just hanging lividly by their sides), salsa guys have their arms(palms down, no extending pinkies, PLEEZ!) at ribcage level, ready to easily connect with their partners.

pygmalion

11-06-2004, 09:06 AM

Hi corvettefreak80. Welcome. :D

btw, have you seen the reviews for the 2005 Vette? Holy smokes! That's one sweet vehicle. 8) They redesigned it majorly. AND they lowered the price a bunch from the 2004 model. :idea: :roll: :lol:

cocodrilo

11-06-2004, 04:15 PM

My husband wants that one, Pygmalion! :roll:

pygmalion

11-06-2004, 06:09 PM

Not just your husband. I want one, too. :lol: The previous design looks masculine to me, but they've refined the shape a bit this year and rounded things just enough to make me really like it for myself!

SwinginAngel

11-13-2004, 09:35 AM

I have a similar problem. It really hit me last night. I have pretty much avoided contemporary dance scenes but last night I went to my school's dance. A lot of hip hop was played. I find it so hard to dance to. I can move to it. I feel comfortable moving my body but after about twenty seconds into the song I get bored. There isn't enough change in the music, enough sounds to play with. It feels so repetitive. And I miss having a connection with a partner. Sure, you can have a partner during those songs but you probably won't have the connection which enables you to play off each other.

I even watched other people to see what they were doing. They weren't doing anything I am not capable of doing and it still looked as redundant as it felt. I didn't feel any awe in watching them like I do when I go to any social dance like swing or tango.

Does anyone else feel this way?

pygmalion

11-13-2004, 02:15 PM

Hmm. I kinda like solo/freestyle dance, but I can see why you might not, SwinginAngel, especially if the partner dance connection is what you enjoy most. To each her own, I guess. *shrug*

alvaro

11-13-2004, 02:36 PM

i'd like to dance hip-hop too so, which videoclips -as in MTV- would be good to watch and maybe get a few ideas/steps/moves/styling ...?

dxxx1

11-26-2004, 03:08 AM

hey everyone
well heres the problem
my friends always go to clubs but i have no idea how to dance
i see guys just staying in a little area rocking out to themusic, but i cant even do that, i dont know "what looks good" or have any idea of how to move my body to just go with the music...pretty pathetic i know :) ......does anyone have any suggestions, or "styles" of dancing they do when at a club with techno music playing? any help is greatly appreciated
thanks

MacMoto

11-26-2004, 03:25 AM

Hi dxxx1, welcome to DF! :)

We have quite a few threads already about club dancing.
Here's the link to the Club Dancing Index (http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3089) sticky :arrow: http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3089

Have a look at the threads listed there, which hopefully will help you start dancing!

dxxx1

11-26-2004, 11:52 AM

thanks for posting those links
i read over them
and i guess my next question would be, what type of dance do you think i should take lessons for? something thats very basic and a good basis for more advance classes to come?
im in NJ if anyone knows any good studios

Sagitta

11-26-2004, 12:12 PM

lil.riceboi

11-26-2004, 09:26 PM

Hey! Wussup? I just typed up some hints on this link

http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=6370

you might find it slightly useful for grinding, it thats the type of dance you're looking for! Cheers! :D

dxxx1

11-27-2004, 01:29 AM

hey, thanks for the tips
but im l ooking for tips on just...dancing to techno music, moving to the beat....moving shoulders, what to do with your legs, moving your head around,whatever i do looks really stupid lol and everyone else looks very "fluid" in motion and can move to the beat really well

Plutoburn

01-29-2005, 12:00 AM

Can anyone share some basic/generic moves I can use on techno/trance/house music?

Sagitta

01-29-2005, 04:27 PM

WElcoem to df Plutoburn. I don't know any but I cannot imagine there aren't some people here who do. Do be patient though, as weekends are usually slow. (Everyone is out dancing.)

gte692h

01-30-2005, 06:56 PM

everything i've learned so far is by watching and imitating. I know its instinctive to somehow know every move in the book before stepping into a club, but i've found watching and imitating is the only way to start. don't be ashamed of your body, or how it moves when you start off. accept the fact that your body moves the way it does. you don't have to like it, but it helps to accept it and then dance. you will improve eventually.

when i'd go to clubs that featured serious trance/house music ( not the stuff they play in hip hop clubs as a sort of 'break' or 'intermission'), I'd go out to the back and look for the people with the glow sticks, and just imitate them.
I guess the essential idea is to move your hands to the pace of the music. not necessarily the base, or the loudest beat, but the little stuff in between. treble, melodies: that's what i move my hands to. often, i'd see dancers doing a lot of hand movements with little glow sticks. imagine having a little ball in your hands, and you move your hands around this ball. and now imagine the ball going all over the place, and you're still trying to cover it with your hands.
its real hard to put in words.. i started off mostly with the hand movements. as for the feet, i just did simple side steps, or an occasional turn. most of the action was in the hands.

the key is really to get comfortable doing whatever you feel, to the music. eventually, you get more fluid and stylish, and you come up with feet movements. like i said, the best way is to go up to the people with the little glow sticks, ask if you can borrow them, and sometimes they will even show you how to move them. although glowsticks might have a bad connotation ( drugs, raves, etc ) i've seen that they help with hand movements because you are essentially creating a little light show for people around you. and when its dark on the dance floor, with some awesome dance music, its a great feeling. eventually, you'll see your feet and hands starting to move in sync, naturally.

If you were looking for club moves, rather than a more individualistic style, i'm not sure.. i just go up to the girl, and start moving with her, swaying my arms a bit. i know a bit of salsa, so i turn her around a bit, or spin myself. ultimately, its about getting closer and closer to her. and getting her to match your rhythm, or vice versa. take your time. and be prepared to be rejected.

Larinda McRaven

01-30-2005, 08:13 PM

great answer.

gte692h

01-31-2005, 04:54 PM

great answer.

woohoo! do i get an A ? ;)

(*disco*)

02-01-2005, 10:47 PM

everything i've learned so far is by watching and imitating.

I'd agree with this statement. Personally, I took dance lessons when I was younger...jazz, ballet and tap. Then I began to go out to clubs....if you like dancing it will come to you after a few hours of watching and listening to the music.

I'm a fan of house music, the more funky the better. And breakbeats...I find they are very sexy to me. I like thick basslines and female vocals too...There are MANY different styles of music out in the electronic scene. They are all awesome to listen to...and dance to.

If you want to explore music check out www.digitallyimported.com ....

If you were looking for club moves, rather than a more individualistic style, i'm not sure.. i just go up to the girl, and start moving with her, swaying my arms a bit. i know a bit of salsa, so i turn her around a bit, or spin myself. ultimately, its about getting closer and closer to her. and getting her to match your rhythm, or vice versa. take your time. and be prepared to be rejected.

Personally, this make me uncofortable when someone does this. I've been approached and complimented, as well I've been approached to ask how to teach people the style of my dancing. I doubt I could teach it, is so ME, its so individual to me...and its my soul speaking through me...listening and responding to the music.

To dance alone at a club is not a big deal. If you live somewhere where its not safe, or you dont feel safe...dance with friends. But take what you know already and listen to the music and you'll find a style. :D

pygmalion

02-02-2005, 11:31 AM

Hi (*disco*) Welcome. Nice thoughts in this and a couple other posts. It's nice to have a club dancer on board.

Welcome to the forums. :D

delamusica

02-02-2005, 12:00 PM

gte692h's suggestion about imagining a ball in your hands is good. If you're having trouble with that, you can practice at home using a bit of string or rope. Take a length of string about 6-8 inches long and hold one end of each of your hands. Then move one hand around, relaxing the other so that it is forced to follow it - kind of let it be dragged by the string. That should help you get the feel of fluidly moving your arms.

Prof. Pole

02-15-2005, 08:26 AM

Hello! I'm new to the forum. Can anyone tell me what grinding is? I'm a bit confused....

pygmalion

02-15-2005, 08:30 AM

Prof. Pole

02-16-2005, 04:30 AM

Yes I see!

"Grinding is muscular isolations, which is just what it sounds like -- using just the muscles in your rib cage and your hips."

I do this all the time when I pole dance in an extended form; making a fluid 's' shape with my body (on or off the pole).

pygmalion

02-16-2005, 07:39 AM

I don't remember the last time we had an exotic dance discussion. Eight or ten months ago? Longer? We didn't have too many exotic dancers then -- most people here are into partner dance. Meaning dancing with another human being using lead and follow techniques. Nope, at least by the usual DF definition, the pole doesn't count as a partner. (Although some dance partners do feel like inanimate objects, from time to time. Don't quote me on that! :lol: )

Prof. Pole

02-16-2005, 02:11 PM

Notwithsatnding Latin and ballroom dancing, do you mean that there are not many individual dancers on this forum? I haven't had a chance to look at all the topics (there are so many of them). I'm not so naive that I don't know what you mean by erotic, but there are a few pole dancers trying to break out of the 'image.' As far as I am concerned all dance forms have an erotic tint, some more than others :D :twisted:

Pacion

02-16-2005, 05:21 PM

Notwithsatnding Latin and ballroom dancing, do you mean that there are not many individual dancers on this forum?

Hi Prof Pole and a belated welcome to DF. I think everyone is an "individual dancer" :wink: including salsa dancers when they are doing shines or a dancer who is just simply dancing with their shadow "shadow dancing". However, if you care to look at the dances mentioned in the different descriptions for each forum, you will see that they are ALL dances that are done inconjunction with a partner.

Of the dancers who have registered and post, I think it would be safe to say that most if not all, have an interest in partner dancing versus solo dancing.

As for the lurkers, I am not in a position to comment :wink:

Prof. Pole

02-16-2005, 05:38 PM

Pacion

02-16-2005, 05:45 PM

Do most 'partner dancers' shadow dance? Is it like a practice dance session. I shadow dance, I just never knew what it was called that until now. What is 'shine' in salsa?

As this is supposed to be an index of previous threads, I will start a new thread and explain there :wink:

mz bling

02-19-2005, 03:51 PM

like, exactly how do you grind and what are the limits, as in when do you know u've crossed the border

Sagitta

02-20-2005, 07:18 AM

Welcoem to df mz bling. I suggest that you read the all the threads linked to here to get the info you seek.

Kirjava

02-21-2005, 05:32 PM

Err, I don't know if it's just me, but some of the links don't work. :oops: Like the grinding ones. Does anyone one else have this problem?

SDsalsaguy

02-21-2005, 05:51 PM

Err, I don't know if it's just me, but some of the links don't work. :oops: Like the grinding ones. Does anyone one else have this problem?
Welcome to the DF Kirjava! Try that first link again... it should work for you now.

Sagitta

02-22-2005, 06:22 AM

Welcome Kirjava. Hope it worked.

Kirjava

02-22-2005, 06:51 AM

Yes, it does work now and thank you! :P

Lil Kim

02-23-2005, 06:27 PM

I have a semi-formal coming up on March 4th which is only 10 days away. The only dance step I know is the two step and I really would like to learn other things before this dance because I don't want to look really stupid going with a guy who is a really good dancer. (Plus he invited me to the Prom which is a month after this one.) At our school there's alot of grinding and slowdancing. (Which doesnt make alot of sense to me.) Well if anyone can help me if would be great. Thanks a bunch in advance.

I saw all the guys things on grinding but I did see any girl things. And slow dance, it looks like I'm the only girl that doesnt know how to do that.

I only have 10 days so please help!

boco

02-24-2005, 03:46 PM

ok, lil kim.. heres the deal

I cant help you very much on freestyle whatever, since i dont kno whow to do it myself... However, slow dancing is easy =D

(maybe its cuz my mom taught me how to slowdance when iw as younger.. awww how sweet)

anyways, i hope someone can correct me if im wrong, or can elaborate on this.. but basically---

1) guy puts his hands on your waist, or around you (lower back, etc)
2) you put your arms around his neck... like a hug
3) you sway back and forth with him... slowly, usually to the music (or if you watched happy days, you'll realize that you don't need music to slowdance)

sometimes you'll spin slowly... but its like, step sway step back sway step sway...

hopefully someone else can elaborate on this, unless this paints a nice picture.

what yuo see in the movies, is alot like what it is... so don't worry so much about that.

hope this helps a little

-justin

Lil Kim

02-25-2005, 06:23 PM

thanks alot Justin I sort of get it now :)

Sagitta

02-25-2005, 06:45 PM

Medira

03-02-2005, 06:47 PM

We always liked to call it the "Hug n' Sway" :)

Sagitta

03-02-2005, 06:48 PM

We always liked to call it the "Hug n' Sway" :)

That's it!! :doh:

Windy

03-14-2005, 08:26 PM

Now, what would you do during a slow dance, if say, you were a girl who was 5'3", and the guy you're dancing with is...uh, let's just add about a foot to that. =] Hi, I'm new, I'll probably be on permanent lurker mode. I'm one of those teenage people who can't dance. Not really at all. So I've been checking out your site. Seems like a great place, and you've got some nice advice!

Really, what DO you do in a situation like I mentioned? :lol: Not like it's going to actually happen to me... But just in case!

Sagitta

03-15-2005, 03:42 PM

Windy

03-15-2005, 06:44 PM

Thanks twice, once for the welcome and once for the advice! The next dance I probably will go to is next year's homecoming, so I have plenty of time to prepare. :)

Pacion

03-15-2005, 10:52 PM

Hi Windy and welcome to DF. :D If the next dance you will go to is next year's homecoming, this thread would not be of interest to you then :wink:

"Help!" How far in advance do you know... (http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7751&highlight=help)

Windy

03-16-2005, 09:20 PM

Heh heh. No, not at all! =] But, my lack of dance ability has been bugging me since last year's trip for my high school band. I mean, I wasn't horrible, but... Let's say not so hot. And I had a major crush on a guy who was on that trip! (But I had and still have no guts, so it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway... =P) But next year, I want to be good to go! :D

Mocha

03-27-2005, 10:00 PM

Howdy to all.. This is an interesting topic I know I need to learn more about. By the way.. I'm female. :tongue: And I guess while I'm here, I'll tell you my story. Haha you guys are lucky! :D

Okay so, I'm in grade eight (I know, just a young one.. *rolls eyes*) and this whole year, I haven't been to a dance. Why? Well.. I don't know how to grind! When my boyfriend was telling me how he wanted to start grinding with me, I got a little scared because I don't know how. I mean, I know what it is, I just don't think I exactly get it.. I understand you have to move your hips a lot. Anything else need to know?

One more thing, when you're grinding, what do you do with your hands? (remember, I'm a girl) and I've seen in these forums that some guys might put their hands on the girls ass, but I don't mind if my boyfriend does that, what should I do with my hands if his are on my ass? if they're not?

If it's confusing, I'm sorry! And if you don't get something.. just ask me to give more detail if you need it!

Thanks! All help is appreciated! :wink:

macha

03-27-2005, 10:04 PM

*makes strangled sounds of repressed frustration and pent-up irritation.*

*hrack... garfle.. mnnk mkk... gargup... frug... grrh..*

WALK AWAY macha. DON'T SAY IT. Black mark- book... Just... GO....

*stalks off to go eat something unnecessarily fried.

Mocha

03-28-2005, 12:32 AM

Okay okay, I'm sorry I brought it up. :shock:

I'm pretty sure I found out what I wanted to know anyways..

Sorry for frusterating you. :? :(

*feels like an idiot..* :oops: ...

Pacion

03-28-2005, 06:13 AM

Hi Mocha

:lol: try not to feel like an idiot. You asked a question, now you know. For me, the point Macha was trying to make is...

It is your body!

If anyone disrepects that, it or you, then you walk away! Simple. Non negotiable.

- Some girls do not mind if a strange guy puts his hands over intimate parts of her body. That is those girls choice.

- Some girls do mind.

When I was growing up, my parents would tell me that some guys would do this deliberately to test MY boundaries to see if I was girlfriend material for them. :roll: Other guys just want to get a cheap feel/thrill.

The thing to remember is... dancing is just that, dancing. If at any time you do not feel comfortable, then walk away! This applies to not only where his hands go, but also to, if say the guy kept making you do dips (learning you backwards) and you just instinctively felt that he could not control it ie. any moment you could go crashing to the floor and you would be injured.

Here is a thread I did last year, which you may find of interest "Disrespectful" Touches (http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3557&start=0&postdays=0&postorder)

Goodluck and let us know how you get on. :D

Pacion

macha

03-28-2005, 11:50 AM

Yeah, what Pacion said.

For future reference- I'm a bitchy loudmouth. Don't take anything I say or snark to heart, nobody else does. Were I genuinely mad at you, I'd have said something like "can't you find a dance that's less crudely pornographic and more artfully erotic" or "what is this, Urban Coal-Miner's Daughter" or something like that.

So hiss. :P

Mocha

03-28-2005, 02:20 PM

Haha okay, sounds good to me.

And thanks a million for your help! No way I can make a fool outta myself now. 8)

Btw, just like to add this is the nicest thread I've ever been to, thanks for being patient with my.. slow mind. :wink:

Pacion

03-28-2005, 03:54 PM

Btw, just like to add this is the nicest thread I've ever been to, thanks for being patient with my.. slow mind. :wink:
:oops: :oops: no problem.

PS. Here's a challenge for you :wink: show me someone without a "slow mind" or "slow moments" and I will, umm, show you a dinasour... living at that :wink: :lol:

solveg_dancer

04-07-2005, 04:02 PM

I agree with *disco*!

My dancing is just music pouring out of my body...

I did not "learn" it from someone.. I just did it someday (well, it did grow in ways)

Altough I do apply a bit of psychology on myself when I dance...
Foremost, when my head contains anything BUT the music, (as the drunken monkey of the mind often wanders off into judgement, preconceptions and god knows what) my dancing is bad.

When theres just music, it ROCKS :D

solveg_dancer

04-07-2005, 05:16 PM

Also have to add that the ball is very cool!

I once saw a girl take this to.. well.. an extreme that impressed me seriously! She was sooo fluid! And it looked so nice! :D

Also agree that leg/hip movement is mostly the (break)beat, and hands arms are more like melody/treble/fx!

Ms_Sunlight

04-08-2005, 05:39 AM

Personally, this make me uncofortable when someone does this. I've been approached and complimented, as well I've been approached to ask how to teach people the style of my dancing. I doubt I could teach it, is so ME, its so individual to me...and its my soul speaking through me...listening and responding to the music.

To dance alone at a club is not a big deal. If you live somewhere where its not safe, or you dont feel safe...dance with friends. But take what you know already and listen to the music and you'll find a style. :D

Hi (*disco*)! This is true. But what you can teach people is new ways to move their body so that they can then use those techniques to let their own soul pour out onto the dancefloor!

Sagitta

04-08-2005, 07:52 AM

ARIZA

05-08-2005, 11:20 AM

Sorry for bring this topic up but....

I'm going to a dance next week with the same girl i'm going to prom with. She really knows how to dance so i dont want to look like a fool by not knowing how to. The music will be hip hop and some slow dance but mostly urban music since that where i live at. I'm one of the very few black people who cant dance. I can two step but i cant do that for 5 hours during prom so i need help. I would go to a club and watch and see but everwhere i go i cant get in cause liquor is served. I'm not to worried about the upcoming dance since we are mostly going to chill with friends and i can get away with two steping but prom is a time when we are going to dance all night. I was lucky enough to get a girl like her to go with me and i dont want her to regret saying yes so i need help people. Is there sites out there with FREE videos on how to hip hop dance. I'm not talking about choreography dancing but moves you would do during a hip hop song at a club or prom in the dance floor where there isnt alot of room. Any kind of help will be great.

macha

05-08-2005, 11:51 AM

http://www.dance.net/freestyle.html doesn't have videos that I've seen, but the atmosphere is more accommodating to that type of dance. This one's more partnery-dancey, that one's more hip-hop/freestyle. Just make sure you can translate gibberish on some of the posts.

pygmalion

05-08-2005, 12:26 PM

Yeah. Different communities tend to cater to different types of dance styles. This one is very anti-grinding, as a rule. (With which I respectfully disagree, btw. But that's how this community is. *shrug*) So, if you want free, non-judgmental discussion of grinding, DF is most likely not the right place. You may get an answer or two, but most likely it'll be mixed in with stuff you don't want to hear. *shrug again*

The down side (in my view) of the forum macha found is that people use IM-speak. I don't care for instant message-like abbreviations, even in IMs. :lol: I find IM-speak to be very annoying on boards like these, which are certainly not instant. But to each his own. 8)

macha

05-08-2005, 01:04 PM

YES ... I HATE netspeak, and did you even see the "No NetSpeak" disclaimer on the top? Weird. :shock:

Sagitta

05-11-2005, 06:14 PM

hmm...this is a repeat of another thread you started....the other one is gone as of now! :cheers: :)

pygmalion

05-11-2005, 06:26 PM

Aw man!! You deleted cocodrilo's and my witty replies, Sagitta. :wink: :lol:

Seriously, aight2sexy. What I said (in paraphrase) was first welcome. I also said that I don't understand the idea of wanting to turn guys on in a club, rather than in the privacy of your own home. I really don't get that, although I've been doing dirty dancing of one sort or another for ... yikes! a long time. If that's what you like, though, by all means go for it.

This is what I didn't say before. One, you have no idea how many girls (and guys) come here sounding pressured into unwanted sexual situations because of the grinding (dare I say it?) fad. It's difficult for people to tell where the lines are, even under the best of circumstances.

So this topic is really a touchy one for me, politically feminist, religiously traditional, and pro-grinding that I am. (Can you say mixed up chick?) Not sure what to say, except that deliberately turning guys on in clubs is not my scene. No judgment intended or implied. That path is just not for me.

Also, don't be surprised if you get some negative replies... or even quite a few. This forum is firmly in the grinding-isn't-dancing, let's eradicate it from the planet, frame of mind, IMO.

Somebody here found a freestyle forum a few days back. I'll see if I can find it and post the link for you. Chances are you'll get a better reception there, overall.

I personally welcome you. But there are some people here who won't want to go down your proposed conversational path. Just a thought. 8) *shrug*

macha

05-11-2005, 11:19 PM

What's a hunis? Didn't understand a lot of that...

And, if all you're worried about is turning a guy on, just dance naked. It's easier, and saves your back and knees the wear and tear of actual motion.

The forum mentioned earlier is: http://www.dance.net/freestyle.html

You might need a translator to muddle through some of their posts. Not the best-written lot, but they understand your kind of.. "dancing".. better there. More variety.

Sagitta

05-11-2005, 11:23 PM

What's a hunis?

And, if all you're worried about is turning a guy on, just dance naked. It's easier, and saves your back and knees the wear and tear of actual motion.

Honeys or honey. A colloquial alternative to dears, people, etc etc

macha

05-11-2005, 11:28 PM

Shouldn't it be hunni? Hunny? :? Hunis reminds me of penis instead of pennies.

Sagitta

05-11-2005, 11:36 PM

Shouldn't it be hunni? Hunny? :? Hunis reminds me of pencil instead of pennies.

You said pencil and pennies ... I better not go there!! My friend was talking to me about her emotions and her period and she mentioned egg. I thought one thing ands he was think another. :oops: Then she said she was hungry and wanted to eat one!! Oh man!! :lol: ROTFL! Such sick imagery!! But, then...sometimes minds wander...

macha

05-12-2005, 12:32 AM

Aww, rats- the censors turned "pe_is" into "pencil" :evil: LOL

Touch_930

05-14-2005, 06:35 PM

Hi, I'm new here.

And about the grindin', I read some other threads about Grindin' and stuff but I'd like to know a bit more. Like specifics on when she has here back to your front.

I usually place my hands right around the hip, is that ok? And when I practice in the mirror it looks very awkward. I move my knees, not my hips and I don't lift my feet up off the ground. The not lifting the feet off the ground part is what makes it look awkward. Can someone help please?

Thanks! You guys seem very cool here, I've been reading around the forums for a while. :wink:

Sagitta

05-14-2005, 07:03 PM

How much dance experience have you had?

Breathe

05-15-2005, 05:36 AM

I can't believe the ignorance about freaking/grinding around here. I'm new, and I just scanned all the threads, and it's stunning.

Now, no worries to everyone who doesn't do it - I'm not speaking to you as you have no reason to try and figure it out. But to everyone who wants to do it and is either (a) under 18 or (b) goes clubbing, omgwtfbbq! _everyone_ in _any_ major urban center who goes to school parties or any sort of urban dance club will see people freaking/grinding. How can these people seriously ask questions like "where do I put my hands" or "how do I move my hips"? I'm quite adept at club dancing and, trust me, it pales in complexity when compared to most ballroom dances, and I taught myself most of the standard dances (bronze level) just by watching other people. If you spent half, or even a quarter, as much time watching and analyzing people club dance (hell, if you can't figure out the basics in the three hours most school dances or nights at american dance clubs last, you need dance help in general), you'd be fine!

So...what am I missing? Oh, and to add a question that's probably been answered elsewhere (and allow myself to get horribly flamed by macha), is freaking exclusively a west coast term for grinding?

pygmalion

05-15-2005, 07:49 AM

I think the majority of the people who come here are pretty new at the dance, Breathe. And, until you've gotten past your shell and just danced it, it looks wild and exotic. I don't think most people really how easily and naturally it flows. It probably looks intimidating, from the outside. A lot of the folks we get are teens headed off to a first dance or prom, who know by word-of-mouth that there'll be grinding, but don't know what to expect. Or guys/gals who consider themselves "non-dancers" that haven't loosened up yet. Eh. 8)

As for the flaming. Well ... it bothers me too, but I'm tired of going over the same arguments with the same people. Folks have their belief systems (aka prejudices IMO :wink: ) and one thing I've learned, in my many years, is that, when you're dealing with prejudices, don't waste your breath. *shrug*

Oh, and as for the freaking thing, the first time I heard the expression applied to dancing was in 1978 (I think :? ) when Le Freak (a disco song) came out. Around that time, there was also a dance, the freak, which is similar to the grinding/freaking you see today in clubs. A little more toned down, most of the time, but similar.

Not sure where the popular dance got its start, though. All I know is it's been around a long while. 8) :)

pygmalion

05-15-2005, 07:52 AM

Oh, and btw, if you do a google search on dance-forums, this club dancing index is the number two hit, right after the main DF index. Or, if you search for "grinding dance" it's number five. So I suspect DF will keep getting grinding questions, at least for a while. :lol: :lol:

Sagitta

05-15-2005, 07:53 AM

When one isn't used to moving one's body in certain ways then it is natural to ask questions such as where hands go etc. People don't want to do it incorrectly on the danec floor and sometimes don't understand why and when what happens.

Speaking of this type of dancing. Last night I went to a dance where it was about 70% reaggeton and merengue. I got so desperate I even did a little reggaeton with a lady friend. Personally, however the music is boring compared to salsa and I quickly stopped. ACtually I got desperate as even the salsas were pretty bad and fast.

Ms_Sunlight

05-15-2005, 11:06 AM

G******* is too easy.

If you want to turn a guy on in a club dancing (and if we're talking clubs where people g****, the fellows dancing with the females are not usually there because they want to get up, stand up, strut their funky stuff, sho' nuff) then learn to do it with the way you look at him. Learn to do it with the way you breathe on his neck when you lean in to whisper something. Learn to do it with the way you caress the inside of his arm with one finger.

Any female can get a heterosexual male (who finds her less than repulsive) turned on by stimulating his genitals. Stimulate his mind and his imagination, turn him on using your feminine power, and he'll find you far more interesting than if you were just another nice piece of meat he can bump with.

pygmalion

05-15-2005, 11:08 AM

I wasn't going to get into that, Ms_Sunlight, although I have to say I agree. Sensuality is a whole lot more complex, IMO, than rubbing, bumping and grinding. At least in my experience. :roll: (Dying to add a movie quote, here, but I'd better not. It'll get misinterpreted. :lol: :lol: )

Touch_930

05-15-2005, 02:07 PM

Lol, I don't know if you were talking to me but I'm a guy.

pygmalion

05-15-2005, 02:13 PM

Uhhh. No flaming, please. 8)

pygmalion

05-15-2005, 02:39 PM

macha

05-15-2005, 06:41 PM

For the love of Gods, try to use proper speech. I'd like to think we're all a notch above here, so why can't our communication evoke that, too?

pygmalion

05-15-2005, 08:04 PM

Unfortunately, it looks like IM-type abbreviations may be here to stay. I sincerely hope not. :?

eeek! Better log out for a while. 8)

Vince A

05-15-2005, 09:43 PM

I'll second that!!!

macha

05-15-2005, 10:02 PM

I concur- I think it's time for an espresso :lol:

Breathe

05-16-2005, 02:43 AM

Flaming is making nasty or personal remarks about a fellow-poster. If you have problems or disagreements with what's said, just say you disagree. If you want to, you can explain why.

A regular disagreement goes over the line into flaming when, for example, a poster gets called [expletive deleted] anything. No need to go there.

Yeah, I know flaming happens on a lot of boards out there. But the staff at DF tries very, very hard not to let it happen here. Or at least nip it in the bud before it goes too far downhill. (which it can do very, very quickly :( )

and I thought flaming had to do with being obviously homosexual at a glance. crap. :-p

Oh, and for the record, I am possibly the most dance retarded person on the face of the planet. I am the only one in an extended family of 50+ to lay any claim to dance skillz (*ducks as macha attempts to shoot me for using a non-standard english word*) and that's because I've been analyzing body movement to death for about 15 years now. Dance not coming easily is no excuse - just like "my hips don't move that way" isn't an excuse, or so my first latin teacher taught me. My hips were so bruised for weeks lol (*dodges right as macha shoots lower this time*)....

pygmalion

05-16-2005, 02:48 AM

lol. Thanks for having a sense of humor. 8)

Besides. You have to give macha credit for being consistent. :wink: :lol:

pygmalion

05-16-2005, 07:35 AM

Hmm. I didn't see it that way, aight2sexy, although I can see why you might have. Ignorance just means a lack of knowledge. It's not necessarily an insult, just an observation. I heard Breathe saying that he's surprised at the lack of knowledge shown here, since club dancing is so widespread. *shrug* I guess it's all in the interpretation. :?

macha

05-16-2005, 10:57 AM

I thought flaming had to do with being obviously homosexual at a glance. crap. :-p

ROFLOL!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/silverhorse/Liberace.bmp

macha

05-16-2005, 02:26 PM

From a UK dictionary:

ignorant

adjective

1 not having enough knowledge, understanding or information about something:
- Many teenagers are surprisingly ignorant about current politics.

- We remained blissfully ignorant of the troubles that lay ahead.

It's improper adjective usage to use it as the second entry, but again, tradition seems to become law. Just because that happens, doesn't mean that it's correct.

Also note that rudeness isn't always one-sided. The failure to first read a sign that says "no parking", park there anyway, and THEN say "can I park here" is also rude.

Now we're less "ignorant" of the terminology of "ignorant".

Rudeness or disrespect can also be failure to take proper courtesy with slang, internet abbreviations, or failure to employ normal courtesies such as searching for the answer to a question that has already been answered before posting it... several times.

I honestly recommend that everyone read a modern etiquette book JUST once. I have one or two, and really, they're *******ing reading. You learn things about people you never knew by learning to interpret mannerisms, gestures, etc. Etiquette books aren't for people who want to "be better than everyone," or "put on airs"... they're for people who want to be more effective communicators. Etiquette isn't just sitting at a dinner table properly. It's being able to properly communicate thanks, dissatisfaction, distress, confusion, happiness, humor, and so much more. It makes one better informed on what and how to choose to do or say something.

When in Rome, do as the Romans do, whether it means speaking normally or discussing sticking your butt out so someone can rub their crotch against it in maneuvers that should be performed behind closed doors in the privacy of one's home while set to music.

Larinda McRaven

05-16-2005, 04:41 PM

This thread is quickly moving in a direction that we do not encourage here on Dance-Forums.

There are a few new posters that haven't quite gotten the grasp of how we do things here yet.

But let me ******* everyones eye with a quick overview of our guidlines:

We do not flame
We do not gossip
We do not get snippy and rude
We are respectful of others and thier opinions
We try to engage in thoughtful conversation

Any deviation from these simply guidlines may result in the deletion of posts, threads, or even username.
Tread Lightly.

SDsalsaguy

05-16-2005, 05:01 PM

We do not flame
We do not gossip
We do not get snippy and rude
We are respectful of others and thier opinions
We try to engage in thoughtful conversation

Any deviation from these simply guidlines may result in the deletion of posts, threads, or even username.
Tread Lightly.
:!: :!: :!:

Rosa

05-21-2005, 05:51 AM

Yeah, I know flaming happens on a lot of boards out there. But the staff at DF tries very, very hard not to let it happen here. Or at least nip it in the bud before it goes too far downhill. (which it can do very, very quickly :( )

Hear, hear! Df is the most civilised message board I've ever been on (I no longer visit any others), and it's about time that was recognised.

Rosa :)

Rosa

05-21-2005, 06:03 AM

Ignorance over here (London) means someone who is rude or has no respect for others. Im sorry but i stil felt they (he/she) were rude.

I'm *not* taking sides here, but I can confirm that in current British slang the word "ignorant" is used to mean "rude", "nasty" or "disrespectful."

That's over and above its original meaning, of course.

Rosa :)

pygmalion

05-21-2005, 10:07 AM

It has that meaning, colloquially, in African-American culture, as well.

But saying "you people are ignorant!" (the colloquial meaning) is a whole lot different than saying, "I'm surprised at the level of ignorance of ..." (the dictionary meaning) for example. Context does come into play, IMO.

A whole lot of wars have been started, I'm guessing, over a lack of common understanding of commonly used words and phrases. *shrug*

fireflame

05-22-2005, 08:16 PM

is it ok to get an erection while grinding?

pygmalion

05-22-2005, 08:33 PM

Yes and no. (See why you shouldn't ask closed questions? :wink: :lol: )

pygmalion

05-22-2005, 08:38 PM

It's a bell curve (just like everything else in human experience, IMO)

A small number of women will be happy and flattered if you get an erection while dancing with them. A small number of women on the opposite side of the distribution will be shocked and outraged at your uncouth behavior and lack of control. Most women, IMO, will be in the middle somewhere -- understanding that these things happen, while not necessarily being interested in helping you relieve the pressure, if that makes any sense. 8)

emma456

05-23-2005, 12:32 PM

hi, i like dancing and i mainly just dance @ home in my room, :? wen i go out to a club i want to dance but 4 sum reason i just carnt and i end up sitting out wile my friends go and dance. last time i went i started to dance at the end but then we had 2 leave.i no im just being stupid but
please could u tell me sumink to boost my confidence so ill be able to dance next time or sumink. i dont no if i can dance, i dont think im to bad, but some people say that white people have no rythem, so that kinda puts me off aswell, i think i kinda have but i dont wana dance and do sumink stupid coz that will just proove people right. i no all what i have jus written sound kinda sad and perthetic but i duno wot 2 do

pygmalion

05-23-2005, 12:50 PM

For one thing, stop putting yourself down for feeling like almost everybody does, at first. Just relax. If you're above the drinking age, have a pint (or whatever you drink) -- just one. Then get up on one of those songs everybody dances to, so the floor will be crowded, and you won't feel conspicuous.

After that, it gets easier. :wink:

Welcome to the forums, emma456 :D

Ms_Sunlight

05-24-2005, 03:03 AM

Hi emma456. I'm sorry that this is bothering you. The only thing I can say is, sometimes you have to just jump right in and do it. If you can force yourself to get up there and dance once, it will be easier the second time, easier still the third, and so on.

Another thing to think about is, can you find an environment where you can get up and dance in public that's perhaps a little less intimidating to you? Office parties, other people's weddings, family parties, karaoke night at the local social club (where everyone will be too busy being appalled by the singers to be appalled by you) and the like?

macha

05-24-2005, 09:49 AM

It's sometimes fun to joke about white folks and rhythm, but never take it seriously. If you did, you'd have to take into consideration every stereotype.

J and I haven't been "public" yet, as there is no venue for us. But in the hall of the barn at the horse show, at the exhibitor party on the side with the music going, etc. we do a few basics and a turn, just for fun. We're horrible and we know it, but people will say things like "oh, that looks fun! Do you dance?", and be really kind, even supportive, and we smile politely and say "not yet".

Not too hard after you get over your initial "we suck. We look stupid. People should just shoot us" complex. Worse yet, we're big hefty people- we don't have an LOD- we have a FWOD (freeway)

pygmalion

05-24-2005, 08:04 PM

J and I haven't been "public" yet, as there is no venue for us. But in the hall of the barn at the horse show, at the exhibitor party on the side with the music going, etc. we do a few basics and a turn, just for fun. We're horrible and we know it, but people will say things like "oh, that looks fun! Do you dance?", and be really kind, even supportive, and we smile politely and say "not yet".

Good point, macha. One thing a lot of people who are nervous about dancing don't see is that relatively few other people dance at all. So loosen up, relax and have fun. chances are nobody's watching. And even if they are, they'll think you look great.

Good luck, emma. 8) :D

xFeZx

06-08-2005, 03:24 PM

macha

06-08-2005, 04:20 PM

I love you, and someday, you'll make someone a fine babydaddy.

I could almost weep- there IS hope afterall! Sparks of reasoning cropping up in today's polluted, corrupted youth... *sniffle*... it's overwhelming...

*begins sobbing incoherently and snatches new young nongrindinggeniusfellow into a crushing, smothering, bosomy hug*

Ah buhleeeve in the cheeyundrins o' tha fuchah!

Teach dem wail an' let dem leeeeeEEEEEEEAD tha waaaayah....

Show dem awl de booty day possess in-SAAAAHAAAAYEED....

It's beautiful! Just beautiful!

xFeZx

06-08-2005, 04:23 PM

yea so, ty for ur backing me up
don't know why u go all emotional/religious on me but w/e ty neways
my point is just that, grinding is not dancing simply put
now club-dancing (aka: the moves) is dancing
ie: omarion, usher, jlo, shakira, and all the other urban/hip-hop dancers
k? that's dancing point final
please respond
FeZ

Ms_Sunlight

06-10-2005, 04:00 AM

Yay for xFezx

Gotta admit though, I do grind sometimes, but only with the man I'm married to, and only with style :wink:

Club dancing is fun. I like mixing it up, doing incongruous things, just playing with it. It's not about being impressive or showing anyone my moves... it's about having fun and letting the music get inside you. For me, anyway.

pygmalion

06-10-2005, 05:18 AM

Ah buhleeeve in the cheeyundrins o' tha fuchah!

Teach dem wail an' let dem leeeeeEEEEEEEAD tha waaaayah....

Show dem awl de booty day possess in-SAAAAHAAAAYEED....

It's beautiful! Just beautiful!

ROTFLMAO! :lol: :lol:

Edit: What makes me laugh is your transliteration of the song. Hilarious. Not sure which version you've translated, though, since neither George Benson's nor Whitney Houston's (the two most popular, I think) uses Ebonics. But that's neither here nor there. 8)

And, btw, your sense of humor is ... humorous. :lol: :lol: You crack me up. 8)

chandra

06-10-2005, 09:28 AM

ok, so i agree completly (sp?)
Specially when you get three chicks grinding one guy, or like 8 people in a row all grinding. Its just not tasteful. Hmmm... So many teenagers dance like this though. There must be some merit. What is it I wonder?

Out of curiosity, whats w/e stand for? I figured TY was thank you right? I feel dumb- i dont know the common internet acronyms.

pygmalion

06-10-2005, 10:03 AM

Whatever? :?

chandra

06-10-2005, 08:06 PM

thats gotta be it yeah :oops: silly me.

Ms_Sunlight

06-11-2005, 03:24 AM

Sounded like Whitney to me. Not ebonics, just bizarre pronunciation mangled by her vocal gymnastics. That woman always oversings.

pygmalion

06-11-2005, 04:26 AM

I'm 15 male and I hate grinding
I'm a clubber and that's probably why
Grinding is not a dance, nor is it an art
It's nota style of dance, it's not a style alone
It's just holding someone and shaking ur hips together
Personally, it disgusts me because ur doing something sexual without any real feelings or good intentions for the other person
I think that if u want to dance, then DANCE!
Let's see those moves dudes, comon!
Break it down, w/e style man
white boy, gangsta, urban, latino i don't care
but that's dancing cuz it's an art and it actually takes skills
i wanna know what u guys think about my opinion
so please reply
peace urbody ;)
FeZ

A lot of people here share your view of grinding -- that it's not actually dancing. Scroll through a couple threads in this index and you'll see. 8)

As for me? Eh. I'm firmly in the live and let live camp. People who do club dancing are cool by me. But then, so are people who grind or do ballroom or line dance or salsa. You name it. It's all good, from my perspective. To each his own. 8)

chandra

06-11-2005, 08:51 AM

but why? I mean- im fine with it if people grind, all the more power to them.
but why? Whats appealing about it to them. I love intellectual understanding peoples reasons to do things, and this ones got me stumped.

pygmalion

06-11-2005, 09:02 AM

Uh. Because it appeals to them? Because it's one of the most popular dances out there right now? Because it's been around a really, really long time? (The first time I ever saw/did a grinding-type dance was over twenty years ago, btw, and I'm betting it wasn't new then.) Because many, if not most dances, have an element of sexual pantomime, not just grinding? So why is grinding so repugnant? And why do people who choose to grind have to justify themselves and validate their choices with others? Eh.

Live and let live, IMO. 8)

chandra

06-11-2005, 09:09 AM

its not that they need to justify themselves, its just a personal quirk of mine. I enjoy intellectually understanding things. But i guess its one of those thigns that cant be intellectualized. Some people enjoy it. Linke windsurfing. Some people enjoy it. not me. But i totally see how some people can enjoy it.
i guess its the same for this form of dance. Ive worked out the intellectual aspect for myself, and now im going to shut up. :doh:

macha

06-13-2005, 10:54 PM

weezle

06-13-2005, 11:12 PM

First off, I would like to say Hi to everyone here. Seems like an interesting place so far.

I'm here because I can't dance :( In the past this had never been an issue for me, because I didn't enjoy clubs much anyway, so I never bothered to go. I'm not sure if I didn't enjoy clubs because I just don't like the atmosphere, or if it was because I knew I couldn't dance and didn't want to make a fool of myself. But either way I avoided them, and had no reason to go, seeing as I didn't need to meet girls because I was in a relationship for 4 years. Well I became single again about 6 months ago, and I think it's time for me to get out into the club scene and try to meet some new people. Plus there is this girl that I really like who loves to go clubbing and dancing, and she always invites me along but I never go cause I can't dance. But I would love to be able to go along with her.

So I turn to you guys for help. I would like to learn the basics of club dancing so I can at least survive in a nightclub. What kind of dance do you classify club dancing as? I'm not talking the grinding stuff that people go crazy with, but I'm not talking freestyle-out-on-your-own type dancing either. Just the basic club dance. I read the stricky at the top about club dancing, but that seems to focus mostly on the grinding as far as I can tell.

Thanks for any help.

Sagitta

06-13-2005, 11:19 PM

Welcome to df weezle. You really have to be more specific rather then insisting on just club dance and not grinding. There is hip hop, trance, punk rock, 80s...

weezle

06-13-2005, 11:30 PM

Ah. Well I'm not insisting on not grinding, I just didn't think that it was a major part of club dancing. Is that pretty much what people do if they aren't solo dancing?

I'm gonna guess the style would be Hip Hop then. Just because of the style of the music they play.

pygmalion

06-14-2005, 01:39 AM

I made a grinding forum.
:shock:
http://www.mymessageboard.com/forums/index.php?mforum=horsetalk&showforum=7

PS- I don't know who it was, but it was a "Save the starving, naked, dirty children of this country for this church" commercial about twenty years ago.

You totally crack me up. No lie and no exaggeration. 8) :D Life is a more sarcastic, a much funner and more hilarious place because you're here. You rock. :wink: :lol:

Sagitta

06-14-2005, 07:55 AM

Best to check out our sister forum then at www.danceforums.net

sseleulC

06-14-2005, 04:34 PM

Yeah could anyone help me out on this area too? I understand and can do grinding well. I have rythm. But I have no idea at what else to do. The clubs I perfer play rap music. I basically need help on dancing solo while looking for a girl to dance with and what dances to do when I'm not doing grinding. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

dancersdreamland

06-15-2005, 07:26 AM

Welcome to the Forums!

Best to check out our sister forum then at www.danceforums.net

Ditto! The non-partner dance forum is growing and we'd love to have you join us. There is a section completely devoted to hip hop and breakdancing...much of which can be used at clubs.

Hope to see you on the message boards!

Twilight_Elena

06-15-2005, 07:54 AM

Sounds like you're looking for hiphop and/or jazz/modern classes. Check out what your area has to offer and sign up for a couple of classes to see how it goes. Classes offer you technique, balance, smooth movements and a variety of steps and combos you can use when freestyling. :D

Twilight Elena

macha

06-16-2005, 12:24 AM

Thanks. I know my own mind and mouth get me into trouble all the time. It's really hard for "freaks" to integrate seamlessly into society. I've tried, but the best I can do is visit it from time to time, I guess, Lol.

tacad

06-16-2005, 03:43 AM

Someone has to hold up a mirror to society. Say a non-conformist? On the other hand this person has to visit society from time to time so they know which part of society deserves the mirror.

macha

06-17-2005, 03:13 AM

I should have just called myself a moron and been done with it, I guess. And, if you don't want me to visit, please say so- I know at least ebay still loves me,

DiD

06-17-2005, 02:05 PM

looks like its been a couple of weeks since since people would reply to this thread

u guys got a new case (err me) ya well its ur typical case jus like fenixes i guess but this time i only got a day to get some results

just ended 2005 year n lot of parties goin on ( hip hop R & B.. the modern stuff) n problem is still got no clue 2 wat to do on the dance afraid id make a fool of myself

this is a dude in distresss callin out for HEEEEEEEEEEEELP
thanks in advance :)

Sagitta

06-17-2005, 02:28 PM

welcome to df and check out www.danceforums.net

tacad

06-22-2005, 07:53 PM

I should have just called myself a moron and been done with it, I guess. And, if you don't want me to visit, please say so- I know at least ebay still loves me,
Sorry, I should not have gotten in the middle of your business. My mistake.

Just to clarify, I was not implying that you should leave nor was I implying that I want you to leave.

WishICouldDance

07-23-2005, 06:16 PM

Hello everybody.

I'm a young 35 year old. I'm dating and in love with a 27 year old girl/woman who's in great shape (ex-gymnast), teaches pilates, and loves to dance. she doesn't pretend to be that great...but she really is good. the problem - - - I CAN'T DANCE!!!

let me explain. actually, i'm a drummer who grew up listening to a lot of funk, early hip-hop and jazz. so rhythm i've got. i'm used to PROVIDING the beat that makes people move...but not used to MOVING MYSELF.

i've never been much of a fan of the club scene, so i haven't really been around people who can dance. well now, my girlfriend is really making me kinda wish i knew some moves. she likes to go to a club or lounge now and then so she can dance a little bit. i want to go, too, but i just feel out of my element. i don't want to look like a white geek who can't move (which i am, though). BUT - - - in the early eighties i did do a little breaking here and there and was actually pretty OK.

so here's what i want:
i want a handful of basic moves that anyone can do at a club playing basic music to dance to. we won't really be frequenting specifically HIP-HOP clubs, cuz i'm not a huge fan. I also like a place that throws in a bit of trip-hop, electronica, techno, acid and funk. i like some euro-house and i do like a bit of hip-hop, but more like "GORILLAZ" style of music ("Feel Good Inc.").

basically, i want to look calm, collected, confident and in control. i don't like jumping all around and one big problem i have is not knowing WHAT TO DO WITH MY HANDS.

are there some basic moves that apply to any type of basic club with cool music???

PLEASE HELP ME KEEP THIS GREAT NEW GIRLFRIEND OF MINE ENTERTAINED. i want to do something i've never been really good at, because i like the person i'll be going out and doing it with.

THANX TO ANY AND EVERYBODY FOR YOUR ADVICE.
SORRY ABOUT THE LONG THREAD.
NOW, PLEASE - - - HELP!!! I WANNA START DANCING!

Some examples of the STYLE of music that i'd like to dance to:
Feel Good Inc. - GORILLAZ
No Phone - CAKE
Move Your Body - EIFFEL 65
Disco Infiltrator - LCD SOUNDSYSTEM
Rock the House - CHEMICAL BROTHERS
Groove is in the Heart - DEE LITE
Around the World - DAFT PUNK
Dear Can - !!! (CHK.CHK.CHK.)
Hella Good - NO DOUBT
Spoon - CIBO MATO
One More Time (Celebrate) - DAFT PUNK

discovery

07-23-2005, 06:50 PM

My two cents:

I'm not sure from your post whether you wanted to learn how to partner dance (i.e., dance with your girlfriend, making her turn etc.) or freestyle on your own (i.e., dancing by yourself or perhaps dancing standing in front of your girlfriend but not really leading her to dance). My guess is that you meant the latter, freestyle dancing. For that I would say step-touch is your friend. Basically it's a four-count pattern. For example, take a step to the side with your left foot (1) and then lightly tap your right foot on the floor next to where you just stepped with your left foot (2). Do the same thing to the other side for 3, 4 switching feet. Rinse and repeat.

If you meant partner dancing then I would find a ballroom dance studio that teaches hustle and try to learn that. If the word hustle conjures up images of white polyester suits and butterfly collars don't worry, it is a versatile dance that fits right at home with a lot of current club music and will not look outdated at all.

Big10

07-23-2005, 07:43 PM

don't worry, it is a versatile dance that fits right at home with a lot of current club music and will not look outdated at all.
:shock: Doing Hustle dancing to something by Gorillaz or the Chemical Brothers? That 27-year-old will think she's dancing with her grandfather! :lol:

However, I do agree with your advice about the step-touch thing. It really does work for any type of freestyle dancing as long as you're on beat.

For the hands, I would say clench them into fists. Bend your elbows so that your fists are in front of you and somewhere around waist-level. Keep your shoulders relaxed enough so that your fists/arms swing a little bit, but not too much. The right balance is difficult to put into words, since you don't want to look too stiff, either. For a little variety, you can clap your hands every once in awhile, too.

The suggestions I just wrote aren't enough to start winning dance contests, but hopefully it's enough to give you a little more confidence in what you're doing, and you won't feel like you're embarassing your girlfriend on the dance floor.

I'm honestly curious about the results of our advice, so please report back how things turned out.

discovery

07-23-2005, 08:50 PM

:shock: Doing Hustle dancing to something by Gorillaz or the Chemical Brothers? That 27-year-old will think she's dancing with her grandfather! :lol:

Well I'm not sure about "Rock the House" or "Feel Good Inc." as I haven't heard those songs specifically (or if I have, I didn't know it), but Move Your Body - EIFFEL 65, Groove is in the Heart - DEE LITE, Around the World - DAFT PUNK, One More Time (Celebrate) - DAFT PUNK all fit with hustle. I can't think of a better partner dance to go with that kind of music. If it has a driving even beat in 4/4 time in the range of about 25-35mpm then there's a good chance you can hustle to it. The other options would be west coast swing, salsa, or cha cha but I don't think those don't fit as well.

Of course I'm not saying that partner dancing of any kind is the best for his situation. Most people don't partner dance at a nightclub. But some do, and as I said, I wasn't sure whether he wanted partner dancing or freestyle. Big10, I'm not sure if you dance hustle yourself but it is a common misperception that hustle is a dance relegated to the 70's when in fact it works pretty well today.

Big10

07-23-2005, 09:22 PM

Of course I'm not saying that partner dancing of any kind is the best for his situation. Most people don't partner dance at a nightclub.
Actually, yeah, that was mostly where I was coming from.

I don't do Hustle, personally, but I've seen a couple of professional demonstrations as well as a few people here and there at banquets, galas, etc. Honestly, though I don't think I've ever seen anybody doing it who is currently under the age of 30. I got the impression from WishICouldDance's post that he wants to "fit in" as best he can with people in their mid-20s in a nightclub environment -- and my personal opinion is that Hustle won't do that.

If he wants to try a partner dance that wouldn't look too unusual, then perhaps a simple Merengue would work. I have a couple of friends who will Merengue to anything after a few drinks.... :D

pygmalion

07-23-2005, 09:28 PM

bachata's another good one, after a few drinks ... depending on whom you're dancing with. :lol: :lol: :raisebro: :lol:

cocodrilo

07-23-2005, 09:50 PM

Make a move to the bar and grab a drink to help you chill, then you might relax a bit on the dance floor! 8)

macha

07-23-2005, 09:53 PM

Before I actually learned some basic steps, I would do an in-place left-left-right-left, right-right-left-right, ad lib that I learned from a Louisville salsa club once. I was also thin, so it probably helped that I was shaking my rump, I doubt if I could get away with it now, LOL

discovery

07-23-2005, 10:35 PM

...perhaps a simple Merengue would work.

I forgot about Merengue, that would also be a good dance. As an aside, merengue is actually somewhat similar to 4-count hustle.

Sagitta

07-23-2005, 11:15 PM

bachata's another good one, after a few drinks ... depending on whom you're dancing with. :lol: :lol: :raisebro: :lol: Equating merengue and bachata!! :shock:

cocodrilo

07-24-2005, 12:57 AM

bachata's another good one, after a few drinks ... depending on whom you're dancing with. :lol: :lol: :raisebro: :lol: Equating merengue and bachata!! :shock:
And why not? They're both fun dances! 8)

kdogg

08-17-2005, 07:42 PM

Hi Pacion and thanks for the welcome. I really enjoyed learning salsa a while back now, but I got so fed up with the notsogood dance partners that I kept getting stuck with, I soon gave it up. My friend, bless him just couldn't get it! I can't dance with someone if they can't lead and none of them could.

Do most 'partner dancers' shadow dance? Is it like a practice dance session. I shadow dance, I just never knew what it was called that until now. What is 'shine' in salsa?

Too bad you gave up salsa. I guess for you a lifeless pole is better than dancing with a partner who sucks at salsa. I'm not into pole dancing although I grew up climbing trees, poles and stuff. I'm a fully grown man now and I need to have kids :lol: :lol: For those who enjoy pole dancing, way to go--keep it up. One quick question though: does pole dancing involve only the vertical pole or are there other types of poles like horizontal, inclined, declined etc? Another question: do people have accidents pole dancing like slipping your hands and flying off?

Sprintt

08-18-2005, 02:36 PM

Sagitta

08-18-2005, 03:32 PM

Can someone give me a thorough description of everything about front-to-front grinding like what you should do? It's hard to look through the links because there's so many pages and its just little bits of info. Welcome to df. A good suggestion actually on which you can help us out as you are so interested in this topic. Perhaps you can look through evrything and summarize it? Then all the other future posters who come along looking for the same will be able to benefit from your work.

TokenDancer

08-23-2005, 02:19 AM

I just gotta say, I stumbled upon this site while looking for how to do the electric slide, but I must say. This is one of the most helpful websites I've ever been too. Learned the Electric slide and so much more in 1 night. I didnt know how to dance before, but I sure have a large headstart in the right direction now. Thanks a ton guys.

tacad

08-23-2005, 02:46 AM

On behalf of everyone here at DF, you're welcome, TokenDancer! I agree. The wealth of knowledge here combined with the helpful spirit of everybody really gives a person a headstart.

iwanttodance88

09-05-2005, 09:41 PM

I plan on going to a 16-17 ppl dance club with some of my buddies in a few weeks.. so how do i approach chicks in the club? do i just start grinding and see if shes feeling it, or actually ask her if she wants to dance? i've been to many school dances where i know mostly everyone and all we do is grind and slow dance.. so aside from grinding, are there any specific styles of dancing that would make me look like a total stud while scoping out the rest of the floor? links to a site with possible FREE vids would be nice (if any exist) or just simple advice would be much appreciated. :)

It's Wonderful

09-05-2005, 09:53 PM

http://www.zefrank.com/indexdance.html

These clips are teh hawt - definitely best way to approach a girl :wink:

diputs

09-05-2005, 10:11 PM

Why would you want to dance with chicks?

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/leaders/chick.jpg

lynn

09-05-2005, 10:11 PM

awww, it's sooooooo cute!!!

macha

09-05-2005, 11:04 PM

Well, since they're so small and fuzzy, I'd be careful stepping on them unless they're in a cage. As far as grinding with them.... are you in the South? they don't really... allow... that kind of thing up here... :shock:

JJohnson

09-14-2005, 09:25 PM

Hey everyone~ I'm new to these forums, I've been browsing along for quite a while though. I've gone to one dance in my whole life, and it seems that I just embarassed myself for 2 hours... There has been a question that I was not able to find with the search function though... Can anyone give a step by step instruction on how to do the wave from one arm to another, or from your head to your feet? I have seen anwsers here, and I have heard anwsers in real life, everyone just says to practice in a mirror till you get it to work out, but I just can't get it to work, I don't know which body parts to move. So, thank you for your time, and I will be waiting for an anwser~ =)

Sagitta

09-15-2005, 12:13 AM

Welcome to df JJohnson! :D I am so happy we have a new member who wants to learn something other then grind... :bouncy:

Unfortunately I do not know about teh wave and was just checking in before hedaing for bed...but I'm sure that someone else will come along who does.

Diminisher5401

09-29-2005, 07:40 PM

sorry but ima ask where i can find a video to help learn how to grind lol. anybody kow of one

ualsfo777

10-02-2005, 04:38 PM

........

ualsfo777

10-03-2005, 03:52 PM

Anyone please i need help.

raver

10-05-2005, 08:48 AM

Allright, im new ere

only got the one question really,
last night i had a party n it was the first time really that i had tried grinding with girls! yea it was good :lol: but i aint get da feelin i was....as i only really had a slight idea of what i was doin,
If ya know what i mean, this got me depressed! 2 ov da girls just walked off i was gutted!

So i found this forum in da mornin, is it best just to follow the girl when grinding or what? any one got a website address that has like pictures n that of different positions?
Any help? thanks alot

subby

10-11-2005, 05:36 PM

hey everyone.. im new to this site too! lol.. im in grade 11 the last dance i went to was in grade 10 and i remember i sucked!! everyone was laughing at me and all that stuff haha.. now i have a halloween dance comin up and i can't grind worth sh!t so any hinters will help me out a great deal.. im not exactly self confident so i know thats part of the problem but from what i heard .. just follow her hips? and i think another thing is i think im not loose enough and just all tense.

movethosehips

10-15-2005, 09:19 PM

btw...im a girl... i just wanted to ask basically when girls grinds, are we supose to do the same thing the boy?... meaning, let them guide us? cuz some times i cant tell what the heck they are doing.. and... at what point do u like put ur hands around the guys head?... do u just start dancing and hook onto his neck?
i feel so inexperienced!
help!

p.s also wanted to know.. what r some like sure signs that the guy ur grinding with, is new/ a beginner at grinding?

Ms_Sunlight

10-16-2005, 05:31 AM

Grinding is just about the only dance form where the lady should be in control. You put your hand around his neck when you feel like it, and he should follow you, and only get as intimate as you encourage him to be.

pygmalion

10-16-2005, 05:38 AM

Agreed. 8) (Amazing how many guys don't seem to understand that, though.)

movethosehips

10-17-2005, 03:10 PM

so its hand not hands??

thnx!
this forum is great!

Ms_Sunlight

10-17-2005, 04:03 PM

It's as many hands as you want!

What I sometimes do is place my wrist on the back of the guy's neck so the back of my hand is lying against the back of his head. Or you can lock your hands together behind his neck, or put one hand on his shoulder. Whatever really.

Kaltas

10-22-2005, 06:21 AM

I always enjoyed going to the clubs and dancing my back off grinding all night, but I never felt like looking good or being comfortable (now I know it was because I was doing "something" which I didn't think much about).

Luckily I managed to get to the university in Prague where I now live. Also I found a dance studio (probably best of studios of this type in Czech Republic, but I didn't know that :)) there, where they teach a lot of different styles of dancing, which made grinding much easier for me.

I joined two classes (hour a week each) of dancing styles called Street Funk and Funky R'n'B and man... I must say that this is really the way how to learn club dancing on almost every kind of music, they teach you R'n'B moves mostly, but most of the information you get is usable in many other styles...

The point of this post is to encourage you to try to find some studio where they teach those kinds of styles (if there's any; sadly in the city I lived before, there weren't any) and try it if you have problems with grinding and club dancing! It's worth it!

(Hope this is useful for someone :)

babygotback

10-23-2005, 01:04 PM

Sagitta

10-23-2005, 01:19 PM

Sagitta

10-23-2005, 01:22 PM

OK,
so first of all, let me say hi n dat this is my 1st sym of a forum thingy so if i screw up let me noe!
n e ways
i need help cause i want to my friends' homecomming dance and i jsut descided that since i didn't know n e one i like didn't have to worry, so i went up to this like hot guy n like started grinding with him. :D N like he was ok with is, but i could tell he was like not very interested.. :( n it WAS my 1st sym grinding so i don't know..
what do guy find attractive in girls?
what can i do make sure the guy i'm after looks my way? :?

xoxo~AnnA~

The thing that I find most attractive about a girl is self-confidence and being herself. Just because you grind/dance with someone it does not mean that person will be interested in you, and it has nothing to do with how good you are at grinding/dancing.

Sagitta

10-23-2005, 02:11 PM

Speaking of attracting attention the below passage is copied from the happy and random thoughs thread and is by moi:

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There is something to be said about being diferent. Everyone recognises you. I'm known as the guy who dances barefoot or with flip flops. Yesteday night someone commented, "what's the occassion? You have shoes on." I replied, "I like to keep people guessing." :wink: :)

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Another way of attracting attention is by the way you dress. A distinctive style of dress will make you noticeable.

Note these are comments on getting people to notice you, and not a particular individual.

diputs

10-27-2005, 02:07 PM

Originally by pygmalion

We have gotten so many requests for general club dancing information lately, that I think it's time to start keeping all of the threads together in one place. Have fun, kids. :D
I have no idea how to dance:( (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=2232)
Too much grinding (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=2510)
Learn dancing (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=2553)
Freestyle dancing (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=1419)
bustamove.com (http://www.bustamove.com/cgi-bin/scripts/post_link.pl?p=hip_f&d=&b=864992264964)
Most useful/least useful club dances (http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=3193)

SDsalsaguy

10-27-2005, 02:08 PM

Thanks diputsnyc! :) :) :)

lynn

10-27-2005, 02:15 PM

Thanks, disputsync

Now, the million dollar question: would anyone bother to look @ this before posting another similar question??!!

diputs

10-27-2005, 02:16 PM

I am trying to get an admin to fix pygmalians post, but in the meantime!!

And now we have somewhere to point them. Over and Over again.

SDsalsaguy

10-27-2005, 02:21 PM

:lol:

Your new listing of active links will be integrated into the orignal index post, just maybe not today. Thanks for digging up the active links though!

SDsalsaguy

10-29-2005, 07:19 PM

OK, all the links in the first post should now be active again.

PiPod

11-02-2005, 02:22 PM

Thanks so much for the links. I know how to grind and do freestyle club dances --but the thing I had the hardest time with was steps and counts. I got a private tutor and she was awesome-- she had these mats with a phone key pad on it and would say- text 'play' and we would step on the keys to learn coordination. I'm a fast texter and use T9 all the time so her demonstration really helped me.

Ps--I like the step you suggested with 'Billie Jean'

PheonixinFlight

11-22-2005, 07:55 PM

Iv'e only grinded with a few people but i can honestly say i've never had any problems or anything with my partners attraction toward me or my attraction towards her...

PheonixinFlight

11-22-2005, 07:55 PM

I still don't understand a thing about steps and counts so if any could help it'd much appreciated.

ki2AY

12-27-2005, 11:50 PM

ok, this is perfect for me. darn i have to read over 40 pages.

athenon

02-22-2006, 12:29 PM

I grinded for the first time saturday, and it was awesome (and awesomely easy :P). Wikipedia can help you with the concept of grinding. Beyond that, just kinda move back and forth to the beat...dont move your feet though...REALLY easy :P

Yes, I did read this thread before I went ;)

Thanks guys!

Twilight_Elena

02-22-2006, 12:56 PM

cowboikilla

03-08-2006, 01:29 AM

Hey what's up I've checked out all of the page links above....
I know how to grind...and i've also got a good friend of mine showing me some of her dance moves seeing as I can't dance for crap..lol..I used to be a wickd metalhead..until i started hanging out with her....shes all r&b/Hip-Hop...
the thign is.. I've throwing a party @ a hotel for my 18th B-day..and..I want to learn some new clever moves...anything I can add to my grinding, and hip movements to make it look unique and diff..not just the same old normal stuff.
If anyone has some quick easy to learn moves to help improve my dancing.....that would be awesome!!!!!!!!!! my party is this Fri! thanks a bunch!

BaBBiiDoLL224

03-28-2006, 04:46 PM

Hello! I'm Kayleigh. I'm new so I don't know if this would fit under club dancing ... but anyhow, can someone give me steps or just something to help me learn how to pop? (Like when you place your hands on your knees and pop ya but.) I'm clueless and don't know how... If anyone could help me, I'd be sooooo grateful!

Thanks!
xox/kayleigh

Dancedance

04-14-2006, 12:46 PM

*nevermind*

supermagnetofhop

04-30-2006, 01:31 PM

I'm going to prom in a couple weeks and I have two left feet, but after reading through some of this thread, I feel I can do just enough to stay confident and have a good time. The only thing that I'm a little worried about is that prom is 4 hours long. Nobody can really dance THAT long?..right guys? Everyone takes a few breaks right? Our prom is on a yacht and I'm sure there's a buffet room or something with food. Would it be bad to eat and then dance (in terms of cramps and stuff) ?

Whirling Dervish

04-30-2006, 02:13 PM

I'm sure it would be okay to nibble a bit then dance off and on, but I wouldn't go wolf down a steak dinner then immediately go do the jitterbug. :-)

Prom is also a social thing, from what I recall (man it's been a long time, lol), so I don't know if dancing for 4 hours is required of you. Think about including in your choices of dance interludes these things:

Getting something to drink
Yapping with folks off the floor
Ducking into the restroom now and then (and really rest :-)
Chatting up your date for a few minutes off the floor
Getting outside for fresh air
(get some for me--I love the smell of water and live in Colo.)
Make some summer plans with friends
General goofing off

The Phoenix

08-01-2006, 01:09 PM

Just had to register to say that this forum is supremely dominant... you guys rock...! This is a gold mine for anyone needing to learn some tips and training for dancing. Thanks! I read all of "I have no idea how to dance" and it was an intense help.. I'm going to refer everyone who needs help to you guys.
Keep up the good work!

BRADxCORE

09-08-2006, 07:27 PM

Sup im new to the forums. and I have homecoming coming up. I've never danced or been that close to a girl I'm freaking out any tips?

NeedsToLearn

09-10-2006, 01:00 AM

Hi
I have read the entire thread of "I have No Idea How To Dance"
and I am basically in the same position as those guys. I have tried the whole hip swaying thing but for some reason that does not seem like I am doing enough. What do I do with my upper body? My Hands?
The girl I am going to the upcoming dance (2 weeks) with loves to dance and I don't want to make a fool out of myself.

Also, I attend a pretty strict school and I am not sure they will permit grinding. What would you advise me to do in the event I can't grind?

Thanks in advance

danceismylife

09-10-2006, 02:48 AM

There are several threads that explain. Try "I have no idea how to dance" which is listed in this index. Or take a look at virtually any R&B or hip-hop video. I can't imagine how you could have missed it. :roll: :lol:
Hey guys,
My name's Grace and I'm from Australia. I'm kinda new here. I had no idea what grinding was either. I mean, I knew what it was, I had just never heard anyone call it "grinding". I went to all of these other dance forums and people laughed at me and called me stupid for not knowing what it was, so i'm glad everyon here is as nice as pie coz i'm sick of running into nasty forums.

xoxo

grace

NeedsToLearn

10-08-2006, 04:42 PM

I would just like to say thank you to everyone here.
Last night was my dance and I think I did really well...

Thanks again

fascination

10-08-2006, 07:03 PM

good to hear...congrats to you

DanceNoob

12-03-2006, 08:37 PM

i need help. i might be bringing a girl to my next school dance, where a lot of grinding goes on, and i need to find out wether she grinds or not w/o things getting akward.

evoluti0n12

12-18-2006, 07:30 PM

hey, im new and i have been on other dancing forums that have been rude and havent helped. Im 14 and for a couple years ive wanted to learn how to grind. everyone says its easy but it doesnt seem like it is. Like, where do i put my hands and what music do u grind 2 and what do u do? please help...a video would really help me out thank you

RabidCow

12-19-2006, 10:36 AM

Hey, both of your questions are answered in various threads but basically place your hands on her hips, and in most cases you will be grinding to stuff like rap

fascination

12-26-2006, 06:43 AM

question has been answered in our archives repetitively, embarrassedd...if you are concerned you can take the effort to look there...thanks

Solon Magrizos

12-31-2006, 10:35 PM

What a night! Solon magrizos is such a great dancer. He really knows how to move. I could hardly keep up with him; his energy seemed to be completely inexhaustible. At one point in the evening, people actually gathered in a ring around us while we danced and cheered on his incredible dance steps! I couldn’t believe it. I had the best time, all the ladies there wanted to be the lucky one to dance with Jacob next. They were “chomping at the bit” to get their turn around the dance floor with him

Mr.flyboy

01-04-2007, 09:02 PM

hey, guyz i dunno how 2 post my own Question
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but on saturday im goign 2 a local under 21 club and i hav no idea how to grind or ask grls 2 dance.

also i hav a fear of rejection..plz dont laugh cuz liek i am bad at this lol

can n e 1 help me out?

Mr.flyboy

01-05-2007, 03:52 PM

hey , wats up DF i hacv a Q dont laugh....but saturday im goign 2 a club whjere thr is mainly grinding and i hav no idea how.

i dont even kno how 2 approach a grl and ask her if she wants 2 dance

n e tips?

SDsalsaguy

01-05-2007, 04:03 PM

Yes, (1) try reading all of the posts already made on this very topic, (2) think about not waiting to the last minute next time, (3) maybe search for a site not dedicated to partner dancing if you want more specific information, and (4) albeit not related to your question, maybe consider practicing good netiquette in the future and posting in the same style as regular members, i.e. DF members actually use words and sentences to communicate.

fascination

01-05-2007, 07:40 PM

Edvark

01-13-2007, 10:49 AM

Usually I have found that the girl approaches me to start grinding, how would I approach her? I mean do I just walk up and start grinding w/ her? cause iono y, but it feels like im just intruding on her space, or does she like that?

fascination

01-13-2007, 05:41 PM

she doesn't like it

Edvark

01-13-2007, 11:59 PM

Then wat do I do?

fascination

01-14-2007, 08:18 AM

read our extensive archives on this subject...use the search feature

SDsalsaguy

01-14-2007, 09:45 AM

read our extensive archives on this subject...use the search feature
Not to mention starting with the very first post of this thread that lists and links to a handful of such threads. :roll:

what it dew

01-15-2007, 09:27 PM

I go to school dances and teen night events all the time. Im not shy with asking girls to grind and all that, infact I do it all the time and know what Im doing when grinding. but theres something Id like to know

I usually go to these with my guy friends who are single and we rave and grind with girls. now, sometimes if we are in a group with them, I see one of two hooking up with a girl, all of the times its been one theyve just met. the other night this was going on and I was with a girl that I really liked and wanted to do it but I wasnt sure how to go about it not really knowing the girl. what should I do in this situation, as I feel kinda weird that Im the only one of them who doesnt know what to do, and dont know if theyd get mad at me if I just do it

fascination

01-16-2007, 06:40 AM

gob ack and read our extensive archives on this...or ...why don't you ask the girl

tindancer

04-13-2007, 08:37 AM

Wow, i was wondering if there was a way to learn how to grind on the net and i came across this forum. Its...perfect. I had to join it. Just the first 4 pages of this thread enlightened me (^^)

That1grl

04-24-2007, 06:33 PM

Okay everyone, I have been with this guy for a year and a month and been to variouse dances but have never "grinded" with him. Because, I don't know how. I have 10days until the biggest dance of the year and I need some quick pointers on how I do it. PLEASE help. :?

samina

04-24-2007, 11:32 PM

read our extensive archives on this subject...use the search feature

yep... use the search feature. lots has already been said, thatgirl. fwiw, tho, this is not a site full of grinding aficionados.

although gotta say... how hard can this really be? am gonna have to get out there & grind and see what all the fuss i about... i mean, isn't it a pretty intuitive activity? :cool:

harvardjanitor7

04-27-2007, 11:26 PM

Cool I've been reading this thread for quite a while, and I've got the "basic grind."

Which is...bend knees, sway hips left-back-right-back-left

What do you do with your arms?

I guess the best way is to actually go and learn, but any good tips?

Gao An

07-12-2007, 05:35 PM

My friends invited me to go clubbing with them, but I have no idea how to dance whatsoever! Could anyone give me some tips?

I don't know how to grind either.. =( :confused:

Thanks in advance!

quixotedlm

07-12-2007, 06:26 PM

welcome to DF!

we are not a club-dancing board. we are only about partner/ballroom dancing.

you can't learn to dance very fast in a matter of hours or days. you have to invest time into it.

stand in front of a mirror, put on some clubby music, and try to move your body to the music. if it seems symmetrical and graceful, then go with it. just stepping from one leg to another is cool too. it looks like you are enjoying the music and having a good time - waay better than looking clumsy.

don't grind. but if you have to, then just hold the girls palms and let her do her thing, and you just match her body movements without contact in any other part of the body. this is likely the entirety of new the advice you'll get on grinding on DF. if you use the search button and try to search for keywords like 'club' or 'grinding', you'll find plenty of threads where we've discussed it over and again despite our friendly mods frowning looks ;)

fascination

07-12-2007, 06:34 PM

correct...any and all matters of descriptions of grinding that are acceptable on this forum are in our archives and you are welcome to take the time and effort to research them if you are so inclined...simply do an advanced search using the word grind....welcome to DF and please read our guidelines

teaser

12-22-2007, 04:58 PM

Hey guys--

I'm going to a party tonight (techno and hip-hop).

Since 13 (im 18 now) I've taken salsa so I know rhythm and I'm a pretty good salsa dancer. I've never club danced (grinding) and need something to get me through the evening, in case I need to.

Any videos I can see or any tips?

Thanks

etp777

12-22-2007, 05:00 PM

Check the sticky (Club Dancing Index) at the top of this forum for all you need to know. And welcome.

teaser

12-22-2007, 05:09 PM

SDsalsaguy

12-22-2007, 05:15 PM

Right here, as etp777 was kindly trying to direct you: http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=2761

AzraFox

01-19-2008, 07:32 PM

Hi there. I'm Azra, I know I haven't posted yet - I was here under a different name a while ago due to my interest in dance, but I have been very busy since then, and in that time seem to have lost the little dance ability I had. Not that I really had much to start with! Anyways, I forgot my old username, so I had to re-register.

I'm actually here for some general help. basically, I have a friend who I've known online for quite some time. We've never met in person, but since she is coming over here to see an old school friend, she wants to come over for the weekend. She's a really good dancer (to the point where she takes part in contests) and she seems to have something against dancing with a guy less experienced than her. Admittedly, I over-exaggerated my dance abilities so she is expecting more than what I can offer at the moment, which is close to no technique whatsoever!

I basically have 10 days to become (at least) a little better at dancing in nightclubs. I'm not sure if there is a specific style for this, since I have tried the internet for video tutorials, etc, and there seems to be no real category of dance that is suitable for a simple, regular club. I'm not really sure what genre to give to the music generally played here, but if anyone lives in the UK, its the kind of music that is usually played on the main dance floor, a mixture of cheese, indie, and R&B. I was just wondering if anyone could help me out here, point me in the right direction. I'm not expecting miracles, I just need a leg to stand on!

Thanks in advance!

fascination

01-19-2008, 08:31 PM

well...welcome back and good luck...I wish I had the first clue how to help you...hopefully others will come along who can...if all else fails, try honesty....she might be flattered

AzraFox

01-19-2008, 08:37 PM

Thanks for the reply, even if you weren't able to help :)

And thanks for that little bit of advice. Its not the end of the world if I cant dance when she arrives, but it would be nice to have a bit of fun learning new skills in the process!

Also, I should probably stress that I've never really done a partner dance before, I go to clubs sometimes and I generally dance around with a small group of friends, usually guys. Since she is making a point of coming out to dance with me, I think she would be more interested in partner dancing while in the club. No ideas where to start on this, would anyone be able to offer some suggestions?

McArtor

01-20-2008, 05:13 AM

ok, a little help... have fun, don't sweat it. If you have fun and you are in a club that doesn't play structured dance type music, you can get by. All you need to do is dance to your ability and not force anything, remember that you should dance to your partners level when social dancing and there is a chance she has exaggerated as well. A few small things that can help you: dance when it is crowded and your space is limited, this is always an excuse to slow the pace and keep it simple, also, (K.I.S.S) this is for first time dances anyway. you don't have to be fancy, do what you know and don't embarrass yourself by trying to be a fancy dancer when you are not. Even the fancy dancers know when to tone it down and just have fun. That is the Key. FUN FUN FUN. Good luck

AzraFox

01-20-2008, 09:22 AM

Thanks for the advice :)

melissalive33

03-05-2008, 03:43 PM

Have you every seen "Dirty Dancing"? When Baby goes into the shack out in back and sees everybody dancing, that's what grinding & prom dancing is as this board like to references to.

DixieDarlin87

03-18-2008, 10:51 PM

Ok, I know this is pathetic, but I'm 20 years old, and I've never been to a club.:oops: I'm going to a club for the first time this Friday, but I'm not sure how to dance at a club. I went to my high school dances, and I danced a little bit there. It was nothing major, but enough to have fun. I'm not exactly sure how the whole dancing thing works at a club. I'm going with a group of friends, and I like two of the guys in the group that I'm going with :D, so I want to make a good impression. Someone please help me before Friday!

nucat78

03-19-2008, 05:37 AM

What kind of club? I'm only acquainted with Latin (mainly salsa and bachata) and ballroom. You could check your library for instructional videos or see if a local studio can give you a crash lesson in a couple basic steps. That'll cost you though - $65 per hour around here.

quixotedlm

03-19-2008, 01:35 PM

You are a girl, right?

Don't worry about the dancing too much. Esp. if you like 2 guys, give them both appropriate time, and make sure that the other notices. Be sure to let each get close to you to dance - maybe even make body contact. They just go with the flow. That will keep them focussed on the competition and they'll fail to see your lack of serious dancing creds. Remember to dress right ;)

remember - it is not about dancing. if you think of it as a 'dance', you'll be all over the floor. think of it as a 'game', and there are two bunnies in the wild. Happy hunting ;)