Homosexual competitor

[BlueBambue]

My Google-fu is failing me. I am trying to find an example of an openly gay male latin dancer. I need to show some people how a couple can act like they are very attracted to each other when the are definitally not.

Thanks for the help in advance :p

[elisedance]

We have had a few threads on real versus acted affection in dance. I seem to recall that this came up there a couple of times - why don't you go to the advanced search page and start there?

I would think that its still a sensitive privacy issue though and I'm not sure whether names would be used here even if the dancer is openly gay. It would seem to be too easy to go over the line... (I'm sure someone in DF admin will give you some input anon).

[QPO]

well said ED


We have had a few threads on real versus acted affection in dance. I seem to recall that this came up there a couple of times - why don't you go to the advanced search page and start there?

I would think that its still a sensitive privacy issue though and I'm not sure whether names would be used here even if the dancer is openly gay. It would seem to be too easy to go over the line... (I'm sure someone in DF admin will give you some input anon).

[fascination]

I concur that we need to be very careful about who is openly gay...I will say this...you can make your point just as easily by finding a brother/sister couple...

as to the staff providing you with names...that may or may not be possible as not all of us are in the know about who is all the way out...what may be known in a ballroom venue may not be known to the remainder of that person's acquaintances...

[White Chacha]

Hello Blue, another thing to consider is that such things are hardly ever black and white. There's a continuum of attraction. So even if someone *is* out, that doesn't mean they don't also have feelings for someone of the opposite sex.

The portrayal of the dance couple isn't just the mechanics of the dance, it's acting as well. You just have to look to stage or screen actors. Plenty of examples of all sorts of roles which are played out where the character bears very little resemblance to the actor playing the part.

[fascination]

EXCELLENT point white chacha...head smacking self for not making it...

[suburbaknght]

I'm going to answer this by inverting the question: watch some of the straight dancers who also do same-sex competitions and you'll be amazed at their acting chops.

[dbk]

Why not a brother/sister couple? That will be a lot easier to find, and it will make the same point I think.

There's even a brother and sister on Dancing With the Stars, I believe, who used to dance together. I'm not sure if they were Latin dancers, though.

[BlueBambue]

I hadn't thought about the brother and sister possibility. That would definitely work to illustrate my point.

I am a total believer in dancers' acting ability. However, I have been unable to convince some of my non-dance friends that you can act like that without some sort of sexual tension going on.

[Laura]

However, I have been unable to convince some of my non-dance friends that you can act like that without some sort of sexual tension going on.
Guess they think everything they see in movies is real too :)

[etp777]

Or they've read the hundreds (thousands?)of discussions here about pro-am students falling for their teachers. :) :P

[reb]

Great posts - the continuum, the acting, etc.

[reb]

Guess they think everything they see in movies is real too :)

Laura,

Right on! Sometimes I fear for the human species . . . :D

[hustleNflow]

I'm going to answer this by inverting the question: watch some of the straight dancers who also do same-sex competitions and you'll be amazed at their acting chops.

AMEN!!!! Some of the boys on my college team were all about those same-sex competitions!!!

[hustleNflow]

Or they've read the hundreds (thousands?)of discussions here about pro-am students falling for their teachers. :) :P

What??? That's nonsense. Nobody falls for their pros around here...;)

[etp777]

heh, or avoid your pro and fall for every other pro in area. ;)

[soshedances]

AMEN!!!! Some of the boys on my college team were all about those same-sex competitions!!!

I know a few of these too...:p

[soshedances]

Or they've read the hundreds (thousands?)of discussions here about pro-am students falling for their teachers. :) :P

Why I couldn't do pro-am...would spend lesson drooling at pro then be too embarrassed to dance. :rolleyes:

[elisedance]

and whats wrong with that? Think about it, woulldn't you pay $?

[BlueBambue]

Guess they think everything they see in movies is real too :)

Considering the decisions they make about relationships I wouldn't be surprised:p

I still love them though:rolleyes:

[BlueBambue]

AMEN!!!! Some of the boys on my college team were all about those same-sex competitions!!!

Over the weekend at my college's big dance event we had a just for fun same-sex rumba comp. It was hilarious. It turned into more of a same sex-rumba.:raisebro:

It was definitely a popular event with all the boys down here.

[waltzguy]

I'm getting queasy reading this thread. :rolleyes:

[elisedance]

I'm getting queasy reading this thread. :rolleyes:

And I your post - perhaps you could explain?

[QPO]

Is that allowed on this site :shock:

Over the weekend at my college's big dance event we had a just for fun same-sex rumba comp. It was hilarious. It turned into more of a same sex-rumba.:raisebro:

It was definitely a popular event with all the boys down here.

[elisedance]

I don't understand why not?

Perhaps we have a cultural divide here? The level of tollerance in N America for gays and lesbians is pretty high - despite what you may read because many (obviously not all) young people just don't think its an issue. In Canada we all have the same rights - including marraige - so its easy to forget that there are places where that is not true.

I think the main principle of DF (correct me if I'm wrong admin) is tollerance and lack of discrimination without subjecting opinions onto others. In that spirit at least I would certainly think there is nothing wrong at all with the post.

[QPO]

It was wry Aussie humor.. I have no issue with any gender dancing with whoever. tone is so lost when typing you cannot hear voice inflection.

I don't understand why not?

Perhaps we have a cultural divide here? The level of tollerance in N America for gays and lesbians is pretty high - despite what you may read because many (obviously not all) young people just don't think its an issue. In Canada we all have the same rights - including marraige - so its easy to forget that there are places where that is not true.

I think the main principle of DF (correct me if I'm wrong admin) is tollerance and lack of discrimination without subjecting opinions onto others. In that spirit at least I would certainly think there is nothing wrong at all with the post.

[Joe]

Why not a brother/sister couple? That will be a lot easier to find, and it will make the same point I think.
Taboo XVI: Ballroom Edition...

[etp777]

Only if it's a Southern Couple. ;)

[elisedance]

It was wry Aussie humor.. I have no issue with any gender dancing with whoever. tone is so lost when typing you cannot hear voice inflection.

thanks for the clarification - I think you tripped my bristleometer ;)

Hopefully, WG has the same irony...

[White Chacha]

OK, let's not go there.

But I have to say that a lot of the guys around here like a good lead now and then :-)
I think it's a bit of machismo, actually... `This following thing isn't so hard - I can do it just as well as the girls!'

Yeah right ;-)

[Larinda McRaven]

I want to make sure we stay on track here... lets keep the conversation on topic and that way no one gets offended. Especially the Mods! :wink:

[Chiron]

Why not a brother/sister couple? That will be a lot easier to find, and it will make the same point I think.

There's even a brother and sister on Dancing With the Stars, I believe, who used to dance together. I'm not sure if they were Latin dancers, though.

Derek and Julianne Hough both danced latin. Other couples from TV you might be able to use for your argument are Benji Schwimmer and Heidi Groskreutz and Lance Bass and Lacey Schwimmer (unfortunately I didn't watch much of the last season so I can't vouch for their chemistry).

I personally have an easier time doing the acting thing in latin if I have none of those feelings for the person I'm dancing with. If I have a crush on the person I'm dancing with I'm completely awful with the acting thing. Last time I did date a dancer when we danced our dancing was either really hot or really off (off most of the time unfortunately).

[BlueBambue]

Is that allowed on this site :shock:

It didn't occur to me that the post you're referring to could be offensive. I'm sorry if I crossed a line.

The same-sex rumba competition is a way for us to make fun of the gender stereotypes often present in ballroom. It gets really funny because about half the competitors don't know how to rumba. What you end up with is a lot of people trying to be really sexy and look like they are into each other. It is a very good humored event where people can be as over-the-top as they want.

[elisedance]

Please don't appologize BB - first your post was not offensive at all and second QPO already explained that the reply was a humerous one (we just couldn't hear the wry aussie accent :)).

[BasicsFirst]

My Google-fu is failing me. I am trying to find an example of an openly gay male latin dancer. I need to show some people how a couple can act like they are very attracted to each other when the are definitally not.

Thanks for the help in advance :p

Why don't you go with a "married" couple - of several or more years? This qualifies also as a "funniest thing your coach has ever..." topic post:

"OK, you two are dancing as if you've been married for 10 years." (Can't remember the actual number used, but you get the point.)

[waltzguy]

thanks for the clarification - I think you tripped my bristleometer ;)

Hopefully, WG has the same irony...

Yes. I only mean I felt queasy when I pictured myself dancing wildly with another guy. My comment should not be taken with any offense. Sorry if it did. :oops:

[elisedance]

No - thats why we cleverly asked you to expound :) (before, that is, pummeling you into a bean bag) and thanks for that...

[QPO]

No apology needed I was not offended and see my previous post

It didn't occur to me that the post you're referring to could be offensive. I'm sorry if I crossed a line.

The same-sex rumba competition is a way for us to make fun of the gender stereotypes often present in ballroom. It gets really funny because about half the competitors don't know how to rumba. What you end up with is a lot of people trying to be really sexy and look like they are into each other. It is a very good humored event where people can be as over-the-top as they want.

[etp777]

Nothing wrong with that WG. I can't say I'd feel particularly comfortable with it myself. I have danced with guys before, pros at studio, but nothing particular sexyx, and don't htink any rhythm/latin. :)

That being said, one of favorite moments of AAC last year was two male pro's from stagekat's studio doing a rumba together, was an absolute hoot, as they hammed it up completely. :)

[fascination]

I think we need to get this thread back on topic, which at it's core is about dancing with someone whom one might otherwise not find personally sexually appealling, and yet be able to emote in the latin dances...some very good suggestions have been made to the OP, barring any new ones I think it may well be best to let it be

[waltzguy]

(before, that is, pummeling you into a bean bag)

uhhh, who's offending who now? :confused:

[elisedance]

just wry canadian humour - gleened from an education on hollywood cartoons.

Its a nice bean bag :)

[Larinda McRaven]

please....

[elisedance]

and returning to our current program ;) I do know of one gay competitor (now retired) who was not only open about his orientation but in your face about it - he's from the peak era of gay rights and proud. In that particular case he would probably be pleased to have his name raised and discussed in context of the OP.

[fascination]

but we aren't going to decide for him

[waltzguy]

just wry canadian humour - gleened from an education on hollywood cartoons.

Its a nice bean bag :)

And my original comment was humour too, and the apology was unneeded. Both people can play that.

[fascination]

last call for retaining the topic

[elisedance]

I'm trying OK? And no, I'm not going to out the outed even simply because its irrelevant.

Actually, lets stay off topic so that this thread gets closed - thats the best idea I've had yet :roll:

[Another Elizabeth]

and returning to our current program ;) I do know of one gay competitor (now retired) who was not only open about his orientation but in your face about it - he's from the peak era of gay rights and proud. In that particular case he would probably be pleased to have his name raised and discussed in context of the OP.

I PM'd the OP with one such name. As far as I know, it would not violate any forum rules for you to do the same, and we would not have an unseemly discussion of sexuality on the forum.

[fascination]

I'm trying OK? And no, I'm not going to out the outed even simply because its irrelevant.

Actually, lets stay off topic so that this thread gets closed - thats the best idea I've had yet :roll:
as I said, it is relevant in that that is their (the person about whom you are referring) perogative to discuss ...not ours...at least not without permission...and, Another Elizabeth makes a cogent point ...as always....