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DanceMentor
02-14-2009, 08:44 PM
I've noticed there are a number of threads focus on different approaches or styles of learning about ballroom dance, yet it seems there something missing. Please allow me to explain...

General Outline of a Dancer's Development
If your goal is to get a good education in dance, you will most likely be trying to follow steps that are very similar to receiving a college degree..
1. You follow a more general course of study first so that you understand the fundamentals. Hopefully, during this time you will learn about dance steps, posture, frame, basic choreography, alignments, footwork, swing, sway, music, and much more. This normally takes a minimum of 2-4 years, and some choose to spend even longer in this phase.
2. Then people reach a point where they want start competing at a higher level. They start to develop choreography that is more advanced. They get into some specialized techniques to help produce a more elaborate style. Often at this point, they are receiving some very good coaching. They are starting to have some achievements in their dancing, and they have started to develop their own style as well as some beliefs about what it means to be a successful dancer. This phase usually lasts another 2-4 years.
3. Then there comes a realization that even though they have in many ways mastered many of the techniques, and developed a style of their own, more information is needed. It becomes a higher priority to seek out higher level coaches. Sometimes this can be very confusing, because the knowledge they have received up to this point had come from a primary coach who helped get them this far, and now they start to receive new information that is sometimes in direct conflict from what they have come to believe. At the same time, they are coming to find that different judges have different views about what makes a good dancer, and they have to learn even more in order to be well rounded, with a style that is both elegant, yet has a complexity that makes the dancer unique, and stand out above others. This last phase can take years, and involves great, but rewarding, challenges.

I tried to be very general in my above descriptions, and I know that there will be some differences from one dancer's development to the next, but please let me go on...

Schedule of Classes
Each dancer is going to have a different path to success, and each dancer will have strengths and weaknesses, so this is why there really is no "magic bullet" approach to producing an exceptional dancer, but here are some of the "courses" that each dancer must take to be successful:
1. How to learn - a dancer has to learn how to learn. So often there are blocks in the mind that prevent us from learning. Learning to identify the priorities, and choosing thoughts that will bring about success, are very important, so learning how to learn I feel is very important.
2. Book Knowledge - ballroom dancing is based on a syllabus, and even the most advanced steps have specific techniques that bring about the best results. On a side note, the new book by Geoffrey Hearn covering the advanced steps should help many dancers. Being able to remember the technique in the book, talk about it, and apply it, is an important part of the learning process.
3. Music - This includes rhythm and timing, phrasing, being able to hear and count the music, and even noticing the differences of the stylistic interpretation of different songs through dance.
4. Understanding of the System and the People - Ballroom dance has an elaborate system involving fellow dancers, levels of dancing, adjudicators, invigilators, competition organizers, teachers, coaches, vendors, rules, and much more. Learning to understand the system and find ways to position yourself positively is something that must be learned.
5. Choreography - It can take years to develop choreography that works well for the dancer dancing it. Some steps look better on some dancers than others. Some body types do better with certain steps. The height difference in the partnership can also play a huge role. Then of course many believe in phrasing of choreography while others believe in dancing naturally but using familiar groups. There are a lot of important decisions that must be made when it comes to choreography.
6. Schools of Thought - Let me start by saying that limiting oneself to one school is in itself "limiting". However, it is very common to develop in one school first, as newer dancers very much need a consistent approach. But eventually it becomes important to learn about several differing approaches, and spend time with each approach. There are coaches who have very different ideas, yet they are still producing champions. Over a time a dancer learns to draw from different ways of thinking to produce their own unique result. Usually at this point the dancer is starting to be a champion.
7. Looking Like a Champion - From hair, to makeup, to costuming, it takes time to develop the right look. Choosing the right color for your hair and skin color, and finding a vendor that will help you with achieving the right look takes time and development.
8. Physical Conditioning - From building endurance to improving flexibility and balance, this area cannot be overlooked.
9. Expression and Acting - Learning to show good facial expressions as well as show the emotion that is characteristic of the dance
10. Believing in Yourself - Dancers spend a lot of time being corrected. They look at themselves in the mirror. They lose quite often at the competitions. Dancers need to spend time building confidence in themselves and in the path they have chosen.
11. How to Practice - From doing rounds to examining steps to getting comfortable with choreography, yet producing a good result takes time and development.
12. Developing a Winning Team - Often great partnerships fall short due to a lack of emphasis on building a partnership that is all about team work, and helping one another achieve success and confidence.
13. Organization and Planning - Each dancer must develop and understanding of what they want to achieve, and then plan the steps that will get them there, from planning lessons, to finances, to scheduling.

Conclusion:

Different coaches are going to have difference amounts of emphasis on all of the above, as well as different approaches. But what is important is to understand that we are forever students of dance. There is no one single person that can make us successful except ourselves (but we can find lots of help along the way). It is also important to recognize that there are different paths to success. We might decide today that we are sure that some ingredient is absolutely true, only to find that a champion is doing it another way, and is winning. Moreover, we each have enough to work on in ourselves, and getting caught up in one item often takes away valuable time that we could spend doing one of the above.

One of the reasons I like writing on Dance Forums is because I can organize my ideas in writing, and develop my own approach. It is my hope that others also share in this desire to improve both as dancers and as people. If, as a community we can share goals such as these, we will all win in some way.

dancepro
02-14-2009, 09:11 PM
I totally agree that it is a package deal. I think you (dancementor) pretty much touched on everything. Each couple is unique. One couple might find they have to work more on one issue than another issue. My mentor says

"you have to do it by yourself.... but you can not do it alone".

Each couple should take this list that dancementor made for us, go through each point and see where and what they need to work on. If you need help go to your teacher/coach/mentor and get the tools you need to get the job done.

My teacher used to say

"to be a champion, you need to think and do as champions does".

Dancementor has made it easy for everybody to get it, by putting together this very nice list of things to pay attention to.

Once you have all the points on this list done you have a winning formula and a chance of doing really well.

Thank you for putting this list together for us all to look at and use as a reference. I am sure going to have all my students look at this thread and go through the points to find out what is/are lacking.

Dancepro

DanceMentor
02-14-2009, 09:30 PM
Thanks, dancepro.

And one more thing...

I sure am glad that I was allowed to be wrong while I was learning. I have come to some conclusions along the way that were far off the mark, and I had to work through it and learn, but the good thing is I have become better at learning as a result.

It is important to realize here at Dance Forums that people are at different points in their learning process. If we want to get philosophical, I think it could be said that nobody is ever 100% percent right, but isn't that what makes dance beautiful? :)

It is my hope that here on Dance Forums people will recognize that each person can make a contribution, even if it involves being wrong sometimes. We don't have to prove one another wrong, as there is a certain joy in learning, and it is the learning that we should encourage. Helping each other to take another step forward is the best we can do sometimes. We have to recognize that each person is at a different place, yet is a small way contribute help one another build confidence is the road ahead.

(And Happy Valentine's everyone) :)

dlgodud
02-15-2009, 12:11 PM
3. Music - This includes rhythm and timing, phrasing, being able to hear and count the music, and even noticing the differences of the stylistic interpretation of different songs through dance.


First of all, thany you for sharing your valuable thoughts. I have a question regarding interpreting of songs.

For example, when you compete and you hear the music with lylics that is sung in language you don't understand, how do you interprete the music in your dance? Do we really need to care about lylics as well?

They play songs in spanish especially for Salsa and Chacha and I see some people whose native languages are spanish have more fun and express themselves in their dancing.

Do you think it is disadvantage for some dancers who don't understand what the song says about?

Thank you for your opinion.

DanceMentor
02-15-2009, 03:57 PM
I think it would be difficult for me to say that lyrics don't matter, as it can better involve the listener in the story behind the song, but I also feel that the rhythms and melodies of the music are what is most interpreted by the dancer. One can become skilled at dancing to the music even if it is in another language, though more often we dance to music of a language we understand, and if we don't, why not learn a little Spanish?

JANATHOME
02-15-2009, 05:47 PM
Excellent post. Thanks for taking the time to post this . I am sure I am going to read this over and over again, a lot!