Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

[Purr]

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azakaban opens today. The advance reviews say that the third time is a charm - this movie is the best one yet. I've also read that Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is currently in production.

Are there any other Harry Potter fans out there? Do you have any predictions regarding what might happen to Harry, Hermione, Ron and everyone else in the last 2 books?

:friend:

[KevinL]

I love the Harry Potter books! I've read all of them, including reading the first three out loud to my daughter.

I hope that they don't keep getting longer, those books are already daunting enough for young readers! On the other hand, the have piqued the interest of many a young reader (and lots of older readers) and gotten them to start reading, and that is a great thing!

I've no predictions, though, 8^)

Kevin

[pygmalion]

The movie got a five star review in my local paper, which isn't easy to come by, with that particular reviewer. :roll: :lol: I'm going to go see it this evening.

My predictions are pretty obvious ones. Ron and Hermione will end up romantically involved. Harry will have a life or death struggle with He Who Must Not Be Named, and be tempted to go over to the dark side, before vanquishing Voldemort forever. Sirius Black will be vindicated. Snape was a good guy all along. Hagrid will succeed Dumbledore as head of Hogwarts. Nuts, aren't I? Mr. Weasley will be seriously injured, discredited or killed protecting Harry. Percy will be recruited as a fire eater, but will be redeemed to the side of good in the end. The Weasley twins will be comic relief throughout.

I hope books six and seven are a little shorter. Five was advertised to be, but turned out to be the longest one yet. :?

[Purr]

Ok, I'm going on a limb here with my predictions for Harry and friends:

1. Lord Voldemort turns out to be a long lost relative of Harry's

2. Lord Voldemort have a duel to the finish; Voldemort is vanquished; Harry is severely injured but survives; both of their wands are destroyed; Fawkes, is involved in the battle and dies, but rises from the ashes; Neville is also pivotal in this final battle; he is also injured but survives

3. Ron becomes Head Boy and Captain of the Quidditch Team; he finally realizes he has feeling for Hermoine

4. Luna becomes Harry's love interest

5. Charlie comes back from Romania with Norbert, the dragon, for the final battle

6. Bill marries Fleur

7. Draco is taken out by Aragog, the spider; his father Lucius goes to prison

8. Hagrid are Grawp are injured in the final battle; Remus is killed in the final battle

9. Snape becomes the Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher; Snape saves Harry's life at some point

10. Harry discovers the ability to become an anamigi

And predictions for beyond the 7 books:

1. Neville becomes an Auror and eventually becomes Minister of Magic

2. Hermoine becomes Headmistress of Hogwarts and marries Ron

3. Harry becomes Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher at Hogwarts, marries Luna, and they have 12 children

Ok, I know, I know. But it's Friday, and my mind is wandering. Time to get back to work. :D

[dr daffy]

i can't WAIT to see Harry Potter! just to see draco malfoy :twisted: I LOVE EVIL! haha... i'm gonna hopefully see it this weekend :P

[Chris Stratton]

s/Luna/Cho/g

[Genesius Redux]

Well, I'm looking forward to it--but I'm supposed to go with an online friend in another country, so I have to wait until it comes out there. 8)

[DancePoet]

To be frank...I tried reading the 1st book and I just couldn't get into it. Went to the 1st movie anyway and was disappointed, didn't seem to live up to the hype. Didn't bother to see the 2nd movie...was it better then the first? Fearful of seeing the 3rd without seeing the 2nd, and because there seems to be alot of hype around this one like the 1st.

[pygmalion]

I preferred the second movie to the first, and I strongly prefer the books to the movies ... so far, that is. I'll have to check in with my updated opinion after I see movie #3. 8)

[Purr]

i can't WAIT to see Harry Potter! just to see draco malfoy :twisted: I LOVE EVIL! haha... i'm gonna hopefully see it this weekend :P

The movie's definately worth seeing!!! As for Draco, Hermoine gives him exactly what he deserves. 8)

[goldfish]

Ok, I'm going on a limb here with my predictions for Harry and friends:

1. Lord Voldemort turns out to be a long lost relative of Harry's




like darth vader? :lol: i'm thinking ron's life will be seriously threatened in the final book, since the sidekick always dies or almost-dies.seems like dumbleydoo has a badboy side to him that's emerging ...

i saw azkaban over the weekend! and it was really good. no spoilers ahead so don't worry :wink: i really didn't like the first two HP movies, felt they diluted the spirit of the books, not because they missed details, but they lacked the intensity of magic, childhood and darkness that makes harry potter such a kickass read. Azkaban hits the nail right on the head - it was less faithful to the book's narrative, but got the atmosphere right. everything is so much more beautiful because it's realistic, unabashedly grim at points, and intense, which makes for an awesome translation of the book. the first two movies made quidditch look fun, but not breathtaking, which i always hoped it would be. this quidditch match (and all the flying) was WOW. plus every shot is gorgeously framed, the pace is relentless, and the demontors made one of my 6'2" friends jump so hard the popcorn flew out of the tub.

didn't expect to like this one, but i love it! i love it! gripe: the actress playing hermione looks a bit too pretty though. i thought hermione was supposed to be bookish and a bit mousey, with awful hair. this one has contantly good hair days :evil: but go see it! go see it!

[Purr]

Ok, I'm going on a limb here with my predictions for Harry and friends:

1. Lord Voldemort turns out to be a long lost relative of Harry's




like darth vader? :lol:

Exactly. 8)

[pygmalion]

So here's a question for you. Is that the same kid playing Neville Longbottom?

[goldfish]

yup it's the same neville i think. all the kids have grown really tall though and have lost considerable amounts of baby fat, so i could be mistaken on that one.

maybe neville will have a face-off with snape one day. :headwall: :snake:

random observation: i swear harry potter's eyebrows are tweezed. they looked luxuriant in the first movie and have since... dwindled....

[pygmalion]

Thank goodness. His natural brows were ... uh ... huge! :shock: :lol: Not unibrow material, but close.

Yes, I think it's the same Neville, but wow! He's thin.

I watched the making of Azkaban show (on HBO, I think) Definitely worth the half hour spent. The child actor who plays Hermione was very excited because the child actors are allowed to wear normal stylish kids' clothes more often. Lots of interesting interviews, but I won't spoil it for you. Check it out! 8) :D

[cl5814]

s/Luna/Cho/g

Wonder how many of our unix friends/ DFers caught this ?

[pygmalion]

Hmm. Haven't done unix in years ... Sad, because I really liked in much better than the windows that seem to have taken over the world ... :(

Oh yeah, and did anybody notice that it's not Draco, Crabbe and Goyle as much in this flick? Either Crabbe or Goyle (I always get them mixed up :oops: ) isn't around nearly as much. Wonder why? :?

[Purr]

s/Luna/Cho/g

Wonder how many of our unix friends/ DFers caught this ?

What does this mean?

[cl5814]

s/Luna/Cho/g

Wonder how many of our unix friends/ DFers caught this ?

What does this mean?

s = substitute
Luna - for every occurence of Luna
Cho = with the word Cho
g = globally (as in everywhere you find the word, make the substitution vs. just make the substitution once )

example :
Luna is feeling sick
becomes
Cho is feeling sick

[Chris Stratton]

[quote="pygmalion"]Hmm. Haven't done unix in years ... Sad, because I really liked in much better than the windows that seem to have taken over the world ... :(

My guilty little pleasure of the moment is Cygwin - something went wrong trying to get linux fully installed on the new machine, but this gives me most of the trivial benefits of a unix platform and tools with all the short-term convenience and media capability of windows - and if/when I get frustrated with windows or solve the library problems with X under linux, I can simply move all my work over, since the tools I'm using are even more at home there. If only the file system cross drivers were solid enough to not be read only, it would probably be possible to set up an environment where I could boot either operating system and pick up exactly where I left off in the other.

[dr daffy]

s/Luna/Cho/g

Wonder how many of our unix friends/ DFers caught this ?

What does this mean?

s = substitute
Luna - for every occurence of Luna
Cho = with the word Cho
g = globally (as in everywhere you find the word, make the substitution vs. just make the substitution once )

example :
Luna is feeling sick
becomes
Cho is feeling sick


wow... i just now got that, lol. i'm slow...

[d nice]

I thought it was really good.

If you don't like the books then you pro'lly won't like any of the movies.

I really think Potter will end up dying or coming awefully close to it. Valdemort and Potter's fates are tied together. Hermione and Ron will probably get together romantically, as will Harry and Cho. The Malfoys will end up being exposed, and Snape will certainly figure importantly in the final outcome. If Harry survives his final encounter I expect it to be due to Snape.

[Purr]

Does anyone know when the next book is due out?

[pygmalion]

From all the stuff out there on the web, no publication date has yet been announced. If you want more "dirt" and some rumors, true and untrue, check out this web site. Whew! People have way too much time on their hands. Don't they know they should be dancing? :roll: :wink: :lol:

http://www.mugglenet.com/books/booksix/facts.shtml

[Chris Stratton]

Hmm, I was looking through old folders for something else, but ended up in the mood for a snack (http://web.mit.edu/stratton/www/broom.jpg).

[Underfoot]

I thought the new movie was very good, but a lot more 'flash & trash' and a lot less subtile.

My big questions: What happened to Christmas and the House Cup?

I started a book forum (http://www.underfootbookforum.com/books/) that has this topic in its chat room as well.

www.underfootbookforum.com (http://www.underfootbookforum.com/books/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23)

Take a look.

~ Underfoot 8)

P.S. - Anyone out there from PPC? (now sadly changed to PPU)

[tj]

Just saw the movie this afternoon. I liked it.

[Genesius Redux]

Well, I broke down and saw it, as coordinating the intercontinental effort was too challenging! Good film. The hippogriff totally rocks!!!!!

The only complaint that I've had with the films thus far has been their waste of talent. Dame Maggie Smith has barely appeared, and in this film Emma Thompson and Gary Oldman are just not used to their best advantage. The adult actor who is most consistently shown to his best advantage is Robbie Coltrane (who I think is one of the most watchable actors in film). And of course Kenneth Branagh's brilliant self-parody as Gilderoy Lockhart in The Chamber of Secrets just about stole the picture. (It's a great feat for an adult actor to steal a picture from kids).

[dancin_feet]

I went and saw this movie last night and I really enjoyed it. However it was the first one that I have seen knowing the storyline before seeing the movie. I don't know if it was that or the new director / producer (don't know which one) but it just didn't have the "wow" factor the other two had. The scenery was fantastic and the scene where Harry rides the Hippogriff was probably the best in the movie, but am a little disappointed that the series continuity was off because of the new scenery and change of location for Hagrid's house. They also lost a bit of the build up to Harry discovering the secret about Sirius Black by changing some of the scenes around. The scene continuity between the books and the movie were pretty much spot on in the first two.

Still loved it, but not the same feeling as the first two. May need to see it again to get over the "differences" and accept it as a movie in itself, rather than part of a series.

[NeoDevin]

i can't WAIT to see Harry Potter! just to see draco malfoy :twisted: I LOVE EVIL! haha... i'm gonna hopefully see it this weekend :P

:twisted: I like you already, when are you coming to visit me? :wink:

[pygmalion]

Hi Devin. Long time, no see. How's life in New York State? :D

[NeoDevin]

Life is not in NY state, had a change of plans, I'll post details in my "Moving? (http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=2283)" thread.

[pygmalion]

Thanks for checking in, ND. 8)

[Purr]

J.K. Rowling announced today the title of the sixth book - Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince! 8)

[pygmalion]

Half blood? Hmm... That leaves Ron Weasley out. He's pure wizard. I wonder about the status of Voldemort. Hmm. Thinking.

[Purr]

Here's what was on the Daily Mirror website.

J.K. Rowling is still writing the book, and there's no set release date. Also, she says the Half Blood Prince is neither Harry nor Lord Voldemort.

I wonder is the Half Blood Prince is a new character. Or, maybe it's someone unexpected, like Hagrid! :wink:

[cl5814]

I saw the movie last night and didn't think it was as great. How can you chase yourself - wasn't that idea just too farfetched ?

[Genesius Redux]

I saw the movie last night and didn't think it was as great. How can you chase yourself - wasn't that idea just too farfetched ?

:lol: And yet you don't find flying around on a creature that's half horse and half eagle, or turning into a wolf when the moon is full farfetched? :lol:

[cl5814]

I saw the movie last night and didn't think it was as great. How can you chase yourself - wasn't that idea just too farfetched ?

:lol: And yet you don't find flying around on a creature that's half horse and half eagle, or turning into a wolf when the moon is full farfetched? :lol:

I could still handle that part of the movie with the flying creature.........it was Hogwarts like. I don't think the 'chase' idea was too successful.... they had to make too many specific references to it or else nobody would get it. For anyone that read the book, did the chase seen come off more successful ?

[Flat Shoes]

My main problem with the Potter universe is its lack of internal logic when it comes to magic. It seems that anything magical that fits the moment is OK. For example the map that has the power to see everyone, even when the person is invisible or in a different form, is a bit over board. Not even the best of the wizard has this power. But a small bunch of mid-school students were able to put this power into a map. Nothing is too fantastic to fit the moment.

The Azkaban movie I think had bad flow. The first part was to jumpy, just stuff happening that was not very interesting. Only the last part, were things actually began to happen, it had a flow to it.

I didn't think the time-travel was confusing. But such a device in itself is extremely powerful and does not really fit very well into the universe as just another magical thingy. So this is another example of the above mentioned problem with the Potter universe.

But all in all, the books and the movies are decent entertainment.

The prince? What about the Neville dude?

[Purr]

The prince? What about the Neville dude?

I don't think so. Neville Longbottom is a pureblood, not a half blood.

[Genesius Redux]

I could still handle that part of the movie with the flying creature.........it was Hogwarts like. I don't think the 'chase' idea was too successful.... they had to make too many specific references to it or else nobody would get it. For anyone that read the book, did the chase seen come off more successful ?

In the book it was much more thoughtful, because the emphasis was on how careful they would have to be to leave no trace of themselves in the past. But it still seemed a little like a deus ex machina--who would ever trust a 3rd year with such powerful magic like time travel?

I think time travel needs to be represented either in terms of really deep philosophical issues as it is usually done in Star Trek, or with tongue firmly planted in cheek as in Back to the Future.

As for the half-blood prince, the only half-blood wizard that I know of is Hagrid, so it would have to be him or another character, no?

[pygmalion]

I think time travel needs to be represented either in terms of really deep philosophical issues as it is usually done in Star Trek, or with tongue firmly planted in cheek as in Back to the Future.


Or presented as cheaply as possible, a la Dr. Who. :lol: :lol:

[Flat Shoes]

The prince? What about the Neville dude?

I don't think so. Neville Longbottom is a pureblood, not a half blood.

Ok, don't have the details down. I just have the feeling that this fumbling kid is being set up to become something big.

[Purr]

Here's what was on the Daily Mirror website.

J.K. Rowling is still writing the book, and there's no set release date. Also, she says the Half Blood Prince is neither Harry nor Lord Voldemort.

I wonder is the Half Blood Prince is a new character. Or, maybe it's someone unexpected, like Hagrid! :wink:

Or, maybe the Half Blood Prince is someone entirely unexpected, like Professor Snape! What do we really know about him? He's the Potions Teacher. He was a former Death Eater, and apparent inside informer against them. And that's about it. :shock:

[pygmalion]

Yup. I've always thought Snape would be intimately tied to the culmination of the whole saga. I just wonder how. :roll: :?

[Purr]

I think Professor Snape & Neville Longbottom will play major roles in the culmination of the series.

I'm getting impatient....just when is the next book coming out???!!!

[pygmalion]

Last time I checked a fan web site, the publisher was hedging on the date (and, I believe, had pushed it back quite a bit as well. :( ) I wonder if there are any updates. :roll:

[Anonymous]

Snape is SUCH a Hottie, as is Luscious- oops, Lucius Malfoy. Enough to make me think straight, LOL

At first I thought "Pfft, Harry Potter- sounds like a cult full of knuckleheads would like it"... well, then I read it... and was hooked :-D So hooked that I shamelessly dress up for EVERY HP event (along with star wars and star trek stuff too).

I have a lot of predictions, but they've likely been thought before.

My two favorite sites for Harry Potter are:
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org
and
http://www.jkrowling.com

rowling's site is AWESOME.

[Anonymous]

PS, as far as series go, HP has stayed the distance FAR BETTER than The Matrix or Jean Auel's Earth's Children.

I could KILL the producers of the matrix for letting my TRINITY go like that! That was SO WRONG.

[chachagirlie]

I think the half blood prince will be a new character.

Ms. Rowling does not seem to backtrack when it comes to her new titles.

Love the Snape idea though!... :D

[Another Elizabeth]

I think the Half-Blood Prince will turn out to be someone from/related to Durmstrang. Either it will actually be Viktor Krum, or he will team up with and/or oppose Harry/Ron/Hermione as they learn about the Prince. The Ron/Hermione/Viktor triangle will be featured again, in any case.

In the longer run, I agree that Harry is going to end up with Luna. I suspect that after he defeats the Dark Lord, he will not really want to be an Auror any more, but will end up as the Defense Against Dark Arts teacher at Hogwarts (or conceivably as headmaster, with Snape as Dark Arts teacher at last). Hermione as headmistress is an interesting idea, but I think it's more likely that she will end up in charge of Muggle relations.

Percy will fall in with the Death Eaters, but eventually be redeemed, possibly by dying to save his father.

Neville will undoubtedly feature in the final battle in some way. Perhaps he will be misled into opposing Harry by Voldemort's promises to heal his parents, but will realize his mistake and return to the fold in time.

[Purr]

I like the way you think! :wink: