View Full Version : Could anyone recommend any notable or famous milongueros?
gregolam
09-02-2011, 11:51 AM
Hey guys, haven't been on the site for awhile but I was looking for videos online of dancers who's style I could observe. I'll obviously develop my own over time, but I still don't quite have an eye for who the greats really are. Also I cant exactly afford to go to BA right now so Id like to do what I can.
It is hard to search online, a few names I have come across were Jorge 'El Gallego' Garcia, Dani 'El Flaco' Garcia, Carlos Perez, and Carlos Gavito. I just want to search for some videos of people that are known for their stylistic excellence. If not to emulate at least to observe.
Could anyone offer any suggestions? Just names, Ill look for the videos myself.
gregolam
09-02-2011, 12:02 PM
Just to give a better idea of what I am looking for. I am looking at some of the older salon dancers rather than the younger performance oriented dancers just because I'm assuming that the older salon dancers are the ones that are really doing it for the love of the dance. There's less showmanship for the sake of showmanship in other words (not to slight the showmans! It's just my preference). Just elegant, smooth movements.
AndaBien
09-02-2011, 12:12 PM
Cacho Dante was not known for stylistic excellence, but he was know by the ladies to be a very desirable partner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgWMs0rAcJk
DerekWeb
09-02-2011, 12:20 PM
check out Jantango's blog. She has made it her mission to document all the famous milongueros
http://jantango.wordpress.com/
gregolam
09-02-2011, 12:25 PM
That is perfect! Thanks guys. I should have remembered Jantango for being serious about that. Maybe if she sees this the next time she logs on she can pick out a few standouts because she has ALOT of them listed.
Wanderer2
09-02-2011, 03:44 PM
Could anyone offer any suggestions? Just names, Ill look for the videos myself.
Very compresensive and excellent is Rick McGarrey's Tango and Chaos in Buenos Aires at tangoandchaos dot org
tangobro
09-02-2011, 10:51 PM
this site
http://practimilonguero.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/practimilonguero-presents-ricardo-maceiras-el-pibe-sarandi/
highlights some notable, though not widely known milongueros, as well as some who are more widely known. The interviews conclude with a dance so you see them dance. The interview gives you a sense of what goes into the dance.
I'd taken some classes with the August interviewee, "El Pibe" Sarandi, and what stuck with me more than the moves he taught, was a phrase he used. To paraphrase (less poetic in English) - Tango is to walk & turn in an embrace, in harmony with your partner.
jantango
09-03-2011, 10:39 PM
Hey guys, haven't been on the site for awhile but I was looking for videos online of dancers who's style I could observe. I'll obviously develop my own over time, but I still don't quite have an eye for who the greats really are. Also I cant exactly afford to go to BA right now so Id like to do what I can.
It is hard to search online, a few names I have come across were Jorge 'El Gallego' Garcia, Dani 'El Flaco' Garcia, Carlos Perez, and Carlos Gavito. I just want to search for some videos of people that are known for their stylistic excellence. If not to emulate at least to observe.
Could anyone offer any suggestions? Just names, Ill look for the videos myself.
Why do they have to be notable or famous? It was impossible to dance with a "famous" one who taught, and I know many anonymous milongueros who dance so much better than he did.
Carlos Gavito danced for an audience, so if you're interested in social dancing, he is not a good example. Neither is Carlos Perez who never dances on the beat; the same can be said about the late Gerardo Portalea and Pupy Castello.
Only a few of my videos show one couple on the floor; most are during a milonga. That shows who knows how to dance. Most of the videos are unlisted and linked from the blog. Roberto Angel Pujol was my favorite partner of all the milongueros.
gregolam
09-03-2011, 11:01 PM
Why do they have to be notable or famous? It was impossible to dance with a "famous" one who taught, and I know many anonymous milongueros who dance so much better than he did.
Carlos Gavito danced for an audience, so if you're interested in social dancing, he is not a good example. Neither is Carlos Perez who never dances on the beat; the same can be said about the late Gerardo Portalea and Pupy Castello.
That's exactly why I came on here to ask. Famous and notable was the only way I knew how to ask, since I am both relatively new to Tango as well as completely unfamiliar with what goes on in the salons of BA. I had to resort to looking on youtube (the only place I could think of) and my untrained eyes were unable to tell the difference so I could only take other people's word that they were good.
What I really meant and should have said was...instead of famous or notable, who were the true and talented milongueros over there? Maybe they were completely unknown except in the salons, but to those who are immersing themselves in that branch of tango (philosophy of tango almost) these guys were the real deal, and the ones I should really observe if that is something that I want to pursue.
At least until I can manage to get myself over there to see it first hand anyway. Which I really hope to do soon. Anyway thanks, I think you guys have given me quite a few good leads here.
opendoor
09-04-2011, 09:19 AM
... I was looking for videos online of dancers who's style I could observe. .. a few names I have come across were Jorge 'El Gallego' Garcia, Dani 'El Flaco' Garcia, Carlos Perez, and Carlos Gavito....
Hi gregolam, I dont know what you mean with milongueros? Tanguero, by chance? As Jan stated Gavito was a professional dancer, a stage tango man. I dont know if there are vids of a social dancing private Gavito at all, and if, his dancing surely wasn´t extraordinary and styleforming any more. The problem is, that you will find vids of famous dancers more easily. But I would not call those dancers milongueros. Milonguero and famous are kind of contradictions. I met Chicho Frumbuli last year, and when he danced socially after work (after his performances), he danced as everyone else around in the crowd on the dancefloor.
By the way greg, I would recommend young traveling teachers as role models. You would have the chance to meet them, ask them, and have workshops with them.
And at last here is one of my (gone) models Finito Rivera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7HmCGjYRYE
jantango
09-04-2011, 09:30 AM
You described them correctly -- completely unknown. The milongueros are the reason tango has survived. They have kept social dancing alive since its height of popularity in the 1950s. They go for the music and the embrace. Thanks to the milongueros, we know tango as a feeling.
You are headed in the right direction. There are thousands of videos on YouTube, but very few of the milongueros.
I sent you a private message.
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