View Full Version : The Cast of "Shall We Dance"
DanceMentor
08-21-2003, 03:49 PM
Richard Gere as John Clark (Chicago, Unfaithful, Pretty Woman)
Jennifer Lopez as Paulina (Maid in Manhattan, The Wedding Planner, Out of Sight)
Susan Sarandon as Beverly (Moonlight Mile, Igby Goes Down, Cradle Will Rock)
Stanley Tucci as Link (Road to Perdition, Big Night)
Lisa Ann Walter as Bobbi (Bruce Almighty)
Bobby Cannavale as Chic (OZ, Kingpin)
Omar Miller as Vern (8-Mile, The West Wing)
Anita Gillette as Mitzi (The Guru, Boys on the Side)
Richard Jenkins as Devine (Six Feet Under "Mr. Fisher")
Nick Cannon as Scotty (Drumline)
Tamara Hope as Jenna (The DeepEnd, Soul Food)
Stark Sands as Evan (Six Feet Under "Toby")
Director: Peter Chelsom (Serendipity, Town & Country, The Mighty)
Producer: Simon Fields
Screenplay: Audrey Wells (Disney's THe Kid Guinivere, The Truth About Cats and Dogs, George of the Jungle)
Shot in Winnipeg Canada
Release: 2004
Summary: The remake of a heartwarming Japanese comedy about a conservative family man who rediscovers the passion and love in his life through ballroom dancing.
Vince A
08-21-2003, 05:24 PM
List any of the choreographers . . . ???
DanceMentor
08-21-2003, 05:37 PM
I know Richard was trained at Izquierda Dance Studio off West 22nd in New York, but I'm not sure of the teacher.
peachexploration
04-25-2004, 02:33 AM
I just saw some previews about the movie just now. Richard Gere, Jennifer Lopez, Susan Serandan and Bobby Canavale :ladiesma: . Looks like it will be a great movie. Due out this summer. Very nice ballroom from Jennifer and Richard. I think I go see this one. :)
Flat Shoes
04-25-2004, 03:47 AM
I want a good swing movie :(
youngsta
04-25-2004, 08:46 AM
I saw the previews too and Mya was in it! :bouncy:
etchuck
04-25-2004, 09:04 AM
I want a good swing movie :(
Hey, you do have Swing Kids. Shag too...
Oh, do you actually mean a GOOD movie? :) :) :)
I'd like to see a West Coast Swing movie myself.
P.S. Besides, gosh darn it... at least you have a good musical (Swing).
Flat Shoes
04-25-2004, 09:18 AM
Hey, you do have Swing Kids.
I've seen the four(?) swing scenes, wasn't impressed though.
Shag too...
Hey.. Haven't even heard 'bout it. :arrow: Cheking IMDB/Amazon
(Btw: I love shag. Too sweaty for social dancing though!)
Oh, do you actually mean a GOOD movie? :) :) :)
Yeah! One that makes the public wanna learn how to swing. :D A movie with a decent plot and lots of great dancing, showing all the variations and moods of Lindy Hop, from slow and sexy, slow and cool, fast and fun and cool, fast with aerials, blues, balboa, shag.....
I'd like to see a West Coast Swing movie myself.
.... and west coast would be welcome too :!: :P
P.S. Besides, gosh darn it... at least you have a good musical (Swing).
I've searched for it (on DVD), but I can't find it. :(
Got a copy of the CD though... ( :banana: "... we do it on the two and four" :banana: (Where's the singing emoticons :?: ) )
peachexploration
04-25-2004, 10:00 AM
What's "Shall We Dance" about? Richard Gere stars as John Clark, a man with a wonderful job, charming wife (Susan Sarandon) and loving family, who nevertheless feels that something is missing as he makes his way every day through the city. Each evening on his commute home, John sees an entrancing young teacher (Jennifer Lopez) staring with a lost expression through the window of a dance studio. Haunted by her gaze, John impulsively jumps off the train one night, and signs up for dance lessons hoping to meet her. At first, it seems like a mistake. His teacher turns out to be not Paulina, but the older Miss Mitzi (Anita Gillette), and John proves just as clumsy as his equally clueless classmates on the dance-floor. Even worse, when he does meet Paulina, she icily tells John she hopes he has come to the studio to seriously study dance and not to look for a date. But, as his lessons continue, John discovers that his attraction to Paulina pales in comparison to the invigorating effects of falling in love with dancing. Now, keeping his new obsession from family and co-workers, John feverishly trains for Chicagos biggest dance competition. His friendship with Paulina blossoms, as his enthusiasm rekindles her own lost passion for dance. But the more time John spends away from home, the more his wife becomes suspicious until she hires a private detective to uncover a possible affair. With his secret about to be revealed, John will have to do some fancy footwork to keep his dream going and realize what it is he really yearns for.
etchuck
04-25-2004, 10:11 AM
Shag too...
Hey.. Haven't even heard 'bout it. :arrow: Cheking IMDB/Amazon
(Btw: I love shag. Too sweaty for social dancing though!)
I guess that depends. I probably have to retake lessons in shag, but I never equated "sweaty" with Carolina shag. (Maybe Collegiate shag, which is different...)
Oh, do you actually mean a GOOD movie? :) :) :)
Yeah! One that makes the public wanna learn how to swing. :D A movie with a decent plot and lots of great dancing, showing all the variations and moods of Lindy Hop, from slow and sexy, slow and cool, fast and fun and cool, fast with aerials, blues, balboa, shag.....
You know, I agree... for whatever reason more people here got into the retroswing/neo-swing/nouveau swing movement because of the Gap commercials, not because of any movie.
Of course, there is that one jitterbug scene in Back to the Future, though I admit it's not the focus of that movie.
I'd like to see a West Coast Swing movie myself.
.... and west coast would be welcome too :!: :P
With last year's Dance Fever competition on TV, I think a lot of people were interested in WCS, though not enough to have hoards of people running out to learn it (at least on the east coast).
P.S. Besides, gosh darn it... at least you have a good musical (Swing).
I've searched for it (on DVD), but I can't find it. :(
I understand... I don't think they videotaped it, which is an utter shame. They might have a couple of touring companies doing it though.
Got a copy of the CD though... ( :banana: "... we do it on the two and four" :banana: (Where's the singing moticons :?: ) )
If you can find "Two and Four" that isn't a medley, I'd be very interested. Not to mention the "Hit me a Hot Note", "All of Me" in lindy speed... it's a great Broadway soundtrack, but I'm waiting for strict-tempo lindy/swing versions. Oh well. I will play these clips at dances I do run... but only on request. ;)
peachexploration
04-25-2004, 10:11 AM
List any of the choreographers . . . ???
The only name I saw as choreographer was John O'Connell who also did Moulan Rouge and Strictly Ballroom. This was posted last year.
Oh, just saw this:
JoAnn Fregalette Jansen-Choreographer
Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights (2004)
Andrew Zee-Asst. Choreographer
etchuck
04-25-2004, 10:13 AM
What's "Shall We Dance" about? ...
I don't know... I just think that Susan Sarandon wouldn't just hire a private eye for this... I'd expect her to just whap Richard Gere across his knees by herself. ;)
dragon3085
04-25-2004, 10:14 AM
List any of the choreographers . . . ???
Joann Fregalette Jansen- Shall We Dance? (2004) (post-production) (choreographer)
Also of dirty dancing II fame, Oh boy, Think I'll stay with the orginal japanese version of the movie. :P
peachexploration
04-25-2004, 10:21 AM
What's "Shall We Dance" about? ...
I don't know... I just think that Susan Sarandon wouldn't just hire a private eye for this... I'd expect her to just whap Richard Gere across his knees by herself. ;)
Hmmm. In another movie perhaps. :?
pygmalion
04-25-2004, 10:29 AM
I really hope this is a good movie, and not lame, as I fear.
peachexploration
04-25-2004, 10:36 AM
I really hope this is a good movie, and not lame, as I fear.
Me too. Although, there seems to be something to the plot instead of a whole bunch of snapshots to grab your attention. Some seasoned actors always helps, ie Richard Gere and Susan Sarandon. We'll see what happens. Due out in June or August depending on what writeup you read.
Genesius Redux
04-25-2004, 10:53 AM
Richard Gere and J Lo? It's gonna bite. I'm waiting for a film starring Richard Gere and the Olson twins.
Richard Gere had no business whatsoever in Chicago. But then again neither did the other principles. This will be about Hollywood making a buck not about dancing. Keep your eye on the corners of the screen and the background if you really want to see good dancing. Watch Susan Sarandon if you want to see good acting. But if you want a whole movie, rent the original.
That's my prediction. 8)
pygmalion
04-25-2004, 11:01 AM
Tell me about it. The original had subtle cultural nuances and restraint. I don't see either of those as J-Lo's strong suit. Although I could be wrong. :?
Flat Shoes
04-25-2004, 11:03 AM
(Maybe Collegiate shag, which is different...)
Yeah, that's what I think about when people talk about shag.
You know, I agree... for whatever reason more people here got into the retroswing/neo-swing/nouveau swing movement because of the Gap commercials, not because of any movie.
I heard about that (I'm not from the states), and I've seen one of the commercials. But I know other movies, at least Dirty Dancing, made people wanna learn how to dance.
Of course, there is that one jitterbug scene in Back to the Future, though I admit it's not the focus of that movie.
And it's not much focus on the dance. What you see is mostly a couple of simple aerials, if memory serves me right.
With last year's Dance Fever competition on TV, I think a lot of people were interested in WCS, though not enough to have hoards of people running out to learn it (at least on the east coast).
I've not seen it, so I don't know anything about it. Was it a WCS competition? Was it one program, or a serie(s)?
If you can find "Two and Four" that isn't a medley, I'd be very interested.
I only got the CD from the muscial. (And it's a copy of a friends copy.)
You can listen to the version here. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00003XAIA/qid=1082904986/sr=1-13/ref=sr_1_13/102-0292174-5612921?v=glance&s=music) It's on Amazon, and it's only the first 30 secs (and for Two and Four omitting the quite long opera-ish intro.)
Larinda McRaven
04-25-2004, 10:49 PM
Gary McDonald was the main ballroom representative and worked closely with the Hollywood choreographer to keep it as close to real as possible. He also taught Jennifer. He said he tried as hard as possible to get the choreographer to go "American" as the could use Jennifers assets in open position and side by side solo work. Instead the main choreographer insted on making her a Standard dancer :roll: which is quite a stretch..
etchuck
04-26-2004, 01:06 AM
Richard Gere and J Lo? It's gonna bite. I'm waiting for a film starring Richard Gere and the Olson twins.
Oo! Oo! Oo!... I sense three-way dancing!!! :shock:
Richard Gere had no business whatsoever in Chicago. But then again neither did the other principles. This will be about Hollywood making a buck not about dancing. Keep your eye on the corners of the screen and the background if you really want to see good dancing. Watch Susan Sarandon if you want to see good acting. But if you want a whole movie, rent the original.
That's my prediction. 8)
I'd still say rent/buy the original movie anyway. If the movie becomes as good as the trailer sets it out to be, then okay. But sure I have been disappointed before.
peachexploration
04-26-2004, 07:37 AM
Gary McDonald was the main ballroom representative and worked closely with the Hollywood choreographer to keep it as close to real as possible. He also taught Jennifer. He said he tried as hard as possible to get the choreographer to go "American" as the could use Jennifers assets in open position and side by side solo work. Instead the main choreographer insted on making her a Standard dancer :roll: which is quite a stretch..
Cool. I'm glad Gary was around on this one. He and Diana are my favorites in professional ballroom.
Vince A
04-26-2004, 10:36 AM
There have been several "talk show" quips about the movie . . . everything has been good. I did see a few clips, and they can dance!
I understand that Gere has taken quite a lot of lessons in the last year or so . . something to the tune of 8 plus hours a day, including weekends.
I'll save further comments until after I see the movie . . .
Adwiz
04-28-2004, 03:24 PM
Gary McDonald was the main ballroom representative and worked closely with the Hollywood choreographer to keep it as close to real as possible. He also taught Jennifer.
Funny how folks try to make themselves bigger by making statements like this that imply they were her only coach on this movie effort.
J Lo had a number of teachers while preparing for Shall We Dance. She spent several weeks at my studio in the Vancouver area (we were there getting lessons a few times while she was in training). Her main instructors (at least while here in Vancouver) were a couple of top coaches from my studio. She did have others, including Gary, but as I heard it, each one only played a relatively small role in her overall instruction.
The previews suggest that the producers worked very hard to maintain the wonderfully rich storyline of the original. I hope it won't be messed up too badly by "star quality," but you never know until it gets released. The Japanese original was pure magic, so it would be very hard to match that exactly. Still, I'm pleased that this effort is being made and that they didn't try to modify the story. The original film, good as it was, didn't get any exposure. I think it's a charming story and should do a lot to increase the profile of DanceSport, especially in North America where we need all the awareness we can get.
pygmalion
04-28-2004, 03:50 PM
There's always some sort of spin on publicity when you're talking about the big stars, adwiz.
By the way, I did a google image search on the movie, and found a very nice picture of Richard Gere while in training in Toronto (maybe with a teacher from your studio?) Nothing on J-Lo, though At least, not in the first twenty pages. Maybe I need to change my search criteria. :?
Adwiz
04-28-2004, 06:43 PM
There's always some sort of spin on publicity when you're talking about the big stars, adwiz.
By the way, I did a google image search on the movie, and found a very nice picture of Richard Gere while in training in Toronto (maybe with a teacher from your studio?) Nothing on J-Lo, though At least, not in the first twenty pages. Maybe I need to change my search criteria. :?
Gere never came to Vancouver, as far as I heard. J Lo and her entourage had the studio booked for two months, making things pretty inconvenient because they reserved the entire practice floor full time, even though they would only show up for 2-4 hours at a time, and not nearly every day.
Every time I saw her in the studio, a huge African-American dude (obviously a bodyguard) was walking with her, even when she went to the bathroom. Once, when some of the folks taking private lessons looked like they were going to make a friendly welcoming gesture to say hello, the football-player/guard simply gave a look that said, "Don't come any closer if you value your legs" so they backed off and ignored her. She was never very approachable. Even her look was one of "don't bother me with your petty fawning." I guess all the stars have to do that to survive or they would be overwhelmed with an onslaught of attention. But still, it didn't leave anyone with warm fuzzies about her, not that her rep has ever been one of "nice." :wink:
pygmalion
04-28-2004, 06:55 PM
He trained in Winnipeg, apparently. Here's a link to his picture. Sorry about the mix-up. I assumed Toronto, since I knew that Toronto is a big hub for movie production these days. I didn't know Winnipeg was on the movie circuit. :oops: :?
http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_792425.html
dancingdragon
04-28-2004, 08:40 PM
I really hope this is a good movie, and not lame, as I fear.
Me too!!!!!!! I first saw the original when I was living in Japan, and it's what made me want to start dancing! And I'm sure a western remake of the movie would certainly lack all the cultural nuances and restraint you mentioned, Pyg - let's face it, to do something like Richard Gere does in America might be thought a little "unconventional", but ultimately, people in our culture are encouraged to be themselves, to stand out and be someone "special", which is a completely foreign concept for the Japanese mass psyche. To do the same thing in Japan would be considered utterly scandalous and strange - at least in my experience, maybe Cocodrilo has a different view? :?
I cringed when I heard that an American remake of this utterly Japanese film was coming out! And especially who was to be starring in it. :evil: The Japanese version is so culturally embedded that it even featured in a textbook I studied for a Crosscultural Management paper which compared polar opposites in Western and non-Western cultures.
:oops: Ahem ... anyway, just reminding myself that this forum is about dancing and not about cross-cultural issues and misunderstandings ...
As the great poet said - "back to lurk mode". :roll:
pygmalion
05-02-2004, 09:30 AM
I cringed when I heard that an American remake of this utterly Japanese film was coming out! And especially who was to be starring in it. :evil: The Japanese version is so culturally embedded that it even featured in a textbook I studied for a Crosscultural Management paper which compared polar opposites in Western and non-Western cultures.
:oops: Ahem ... anyway, just reminding myself that this forum is about dancing and not about cross-cultural issues and misunderstandings ...
It will be interesting to see how the writers handle the cultural stuff. :roll: :?
etchuck
05-02-2004, 10:27 AM
My guess, it will be more like a late coming-of-age discovery after a midlife crisis. I mean heck... Susan Sarandon and Richard Gere is not the primary acting relationship in this movie??? Are you kidding??? The cultural aspect though may be replaced by workplace expectations or routines.
Now, what I did wish... the protagonist would be a woman! Make this an older version of Dirty Dancing, and a transformation of a woman from being the proper wife to a passionate lover (of dance). You could introduce humor by having her deal with temptation (that hunk of raw hip motion and energy of a teacher), with humor (really dorky men who are only into dance for the women), and with competition (dealing with other women who dance who are much much more serious about the activity). She could even discover video clips online and an online bulletin board...
Genesius Redux
05-02-2004, 11:31 AM
Now, what I did wish... the protagonist would be a woman! Make this an older version of Dirty Dancing, and a transformation of a woman from being the proper wife to a passionate lover (of dance). You could introduce humor by having her deal with temptation (that hunk of raw hip motion and energy of a teacher), with humor (really dorky men who are only into dance for the women), and with competition (dealing with other women who dance who are much much more serious about the activity). She could even discover video clips online and an online bulletin board...
Don't forget the part where one of the guys who wants to go home with the women turns out to be a former illegal arms dealer with a, um, war wound that has set him on his obsessive path. He spends a lot of time looking in the mirror going, "Are you talking to me?" But not quite making it. :wink:
pygmalion
05-02-2004, 11:34 AM
Silly man! Actually, I think etchuck's scenario would hit home with a lot of ballroom dancers out there. Hmm.
I also think that such a story line would either turn sleazy or would require a level of maturity and insight (not to mention character development LOL) in the screenwriting that we rarely see in wide-distribution Hollywood films.
etchuck
05-02-2004, 06:08 PM
Silly man! Actually, I think etchuck's scenario would hit home with a lot of ballroom dancers out there. Hmm.
I also think that such a story line would either turn sleazy or would require a level of maturity and insight (not to mention character development LOL) in the screenwriting that we rarely see in wide-distribution Hollywood films.
Gasp... an actual screenplay that treated this in a mature manner! That's like playing polka at a salsa dance! :shock: :)
Considering that more women than men are out there dancing, I think that a "reverse-role" perspective would be quite interesting. There are plenty of really good actresses out there just dying for a good character script (cf. "The Hours"). Sure it might turn into some chick flick, but I really would like to know what keeps someone dancing in a follow-heavy (woman-heavy) activity like we know dancing can be. All the angst that many women have about their bodies, about the opposite sex, about the "Cinderella complex", about balancing career/family/this activity... there is quite an interesting interaction/subculture that happens here, and it's not about finding "true romance" for many. Maybe.
To me, that's the cultural dilemma that would interest me here, given whatever societal expectations we have in a world where gender roles are strictly dictated... it is too bad not too many movies will cover this seriously. And I agree why... it's not a guaranteed rainmaker.
But think "Mean Girls" with ballroom gowns. Perhaps.
Sakura
05-02-2004, 06:54 PM
What's "Shall We Dance" about? Richard Gere stars as John Clark, a man with a wonderful job, charming wife (Susan Sarandon) and loving family, who nevertheless feels that something is missing as he makes his way every day through the city. Each evening on his commute home, John sees an entrancing young teacher (Jennifer Lopez) staring with a lost expression through the window of a dance studio. Haunted by her gaze, John impulsively jumps off the train one night, and signs up for dance lessons hoping to meet her. At first, it seems like a mistake. His teacher turns out to be not Paulina, but the older Miss Mitzi (Anita Gillette), and John proves just as clumsy as his equally clueless classmates on the dance-floor. Even worse, when he does meet Paulina, she icily tells John she hopes he has come to the studio to seriously study dance and not to look for a date. But, as his lessons continue, John discovers that his attraction to Paulina pales in comparison to the invigorating effects of falling in love with dancing. Now, keeping his new obsession from family and co-workers, John feverishly trains for Chicagos biggest dance competition. His friendship with Paulina blossoms, as his enthusiasm rekindles her own lost passion for dance. But the more time John spends away from home, the more his wife becomes suspicious until she hires a private detective to uncover a possible affair. With his secret about to be revealed, John will have to do some fancy footwork to keep his dream going and realize what it is he really yearns for.
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Oh my God!!!! This sounds like the *exact* plot of a fanfic I once read! Down to the last bit! Except with a few extras thrown in, which may or may not be in the movie! *faint* I don't believe it! It was an absolutely *gorgeous* fanfic though! Beautifully written; hard to admit it, but I cried during the final part of it!
....But, if this is a new movie, and I first read this fanfic about 3 years ago..... *blinks and remembers an earlier post* Oh, wait; this is supposed to be a remake... *blinks and sweatdrops* Neeeevermind... :oops: 8)
I must make a point to go see this movie... And send an email to the authoress of that fanfic... Funnily enough, it too was called "Shall We Dance?"
*waves* See ya guys!
Sakura Kitty :kitty:
Sakura
05-02-2004, 07:05 PM
Ahem... *coughs* Now that I've acutally *read* all of the posts up to this point in time ( :oops: :D I couldn't help posting when I saw Peach Exploration's detail of the plot line; I mean, how many of you could resist such shock that you've *read* something that's the *exact* same?!)...
What is the title of the original Japanese version?! I *really* want to go out and see it now! And, if any of you remember, is this movie subtitled or voiced over? *hopes for the latter* Anyway, thanks for listening! :wink: 8)
Sakura Kitty :kitty:
(PS-I anticipate a new topic to be set up once this movie comes out so that we can all review, compare the new movie to the original, and talk about our favorite dance scenes, etc.! :D )
etchuck
05-03-2004, 12:19 AM
The original movie is subtitled in English so far as I know.
cocodrilo
05-03-2004, 03:06 AM
I saw the original movie, in Japanese, not too long after it came out. It was great entertainment- a good mixture of comedy, human drama & light romance! I'm interested to see how they are going to pull off the American version of it. Jennifer Lopez is a strong dancer, and has, how shall I put it- a big asset?
As for the Japanese cultural nuances- I don't think the director is even going to go there, and to keep it as westernized as possible. The Japanese are sniggling at "Kill Bill", and at Tarantino's boldness to present the Japan he thinks he knows, but doesn't. (Japan ain't all manga & geisha chicks, buddy!) I heard some Japanese friends comment on the inconsisitencies & oddities of "The Last Samurai" as well. Haven't seen the above movies yet, so no comment from me...
MacMoto
05-03-2004, 04:02 AM
What is the title of the original Japanese version?! I *really* want to go out and see it now!
The title of the original version is -- funnily enough -- also "Shall We Dance?", in English. The song of the same title from the musical King and I is featured in the film. It's a really good film, very funny and poignant at the same time. Thoroughly recommended.
DanceAm
05-03-2004, 10:38 AM
I think the reason they don't reverse the role of the star being a woman student has one critical element. I think the male dance teacher would come out looking very shallow. All the emotion would be the woman's and not the teacher's.
Plus the clumsiness of a man learning to dance, especially someone like Richard Gere, is endearing. Women in the audience will just become so enthralled in his endever and become emotionally part of his progression. They will love the woman (J-Lo) being in control, like a mother to a child and when he finally competes and shows what a great dancer he has become, it will just make every woman cry.
This is such a chick flick formula that I should bottle it and sell it. The strong female role, making the man better, plus a leading man like Richard Gere, women will just have to see it. It is as good as a James Bond movie, it is the perfect formula for men, that is why Bond movies are still being made.
I can just see the women instructors going to see it and critiquing the lessons and her dancing. They won't enjoy it, they will probably enjoy picking it apart.
Sakura
05-03-2004, 05:06 PM
Thanks for all of the help everybody! I'll have to go out and rent that right away. Funnily enough, "Shall We Dance?" from the King and I was *also* featured in that fanfic I mentioned! :shock: :D
As for the Japanese cultural nuances- I don't think the director is even going to go there, and to keep it as westernized as possible. The Japanese are sniggling at "Kill Bill", and at Tarantino's boldness to present the Japan he thinks he knows, but doesn't. (Japan ain't all manga & geisha chicks, buddy!) I heard some Japanese friends comment on the inconsisitencies & oddities of "The Last Samurai" as well. Haven't seen the above movies yet, so no comment from me...
:evil: I haven't gotten to seee "Kill Bill" or "K. B. Vol. II" yet!! *cries* But I'll get to seeing those soon... As for "The Last Samurai," I know that my friends and I, Otaku and lovers of Japan that we are, pointed out a few inconsistencies in the movie (Can't remember what they were now! *laughs sheepishly* :lol: 8) ), but overall, we thoroughly enjoyed it. However, when we first saw trailers for it, our reaction was: :shock: :shock: What the heck is Tom Cruise doing *in* Japan as the *last* Samurai?! Get out of Japan, boy!! Of course, since seeing it, we all have this unyielding desire to email him and ask that in the next award show he goes to, he clothes himself in the hakama and haori that he wore in the flim, because now none of us think he lookes *quite* right in modern, Western clothing... *laughs* But I have to get my hands on an email address first... Wonder if he'd do it... :roll: :twisted: (Ne, Cocodrilo, "hakama" and "haori" are the correct term for the male kimono and skirt-like pants, correct? I picked those up from the Rurouni Kenshin anime series, but I thought I'd cross-check with you. *bows* Thanks for all of your help on this Japanese terminology I keep pestering you for! :D :wink: 8) )
Sakura Kitty :kitty:
cocodrilo
05-03-2004, 06:06 PM
Kill Bill...I think I'll pass on Tarantino's flicks for the time being- too much pointless bloodshed & violence for the most part...Yes, it's hakama & haori. I've never worn a hakama, which is de rigeur for young ladies at college graduation parties ("Taisho-era style") but I wear yukata every summer & kimono when I make the opportunity. The latter takes quite a lot of preparation and should avoid being worn in foul weather(they're 100% silk!)...
Still, I'm looking forward to the American version of "Shall We Dance"! :D
dragon3085
05-08-2004, 08:47 AM
In case anyones intrested, Stars is showing the orginal version this month, including today like 3 times. its the Stars C channel which I guess means classic maybe?
Patrick
pygmalion
05-08-2004, 08:49 AM
Cool. Thanks. I knew there was a reason for me to pay exhorbitant fees for the premium cable package. :oops: :lol:
dragon3085
05-08-2004, 09:04 AM
Thats way I have Satellite baby :-) You know watching the movie again, I have even bigger doubts that Hollywood will do it justice. Its just a lot richer than anything starring gere and Jlo seems capable of.
JohnK
05-08-2004, 10:50 AM
Here is a link to the trailer for the new version:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/shall_we_dance.html
You will need to load QuickTime to see it (link is in above link).
Seems like a fairly faithful "follow" of the original plot line, looks interesting, it's due out in early August.
Sakura
05-08-2004, 11:42 AM
*taps her fingers patiently as she waits for the trailer to load* Thanks for the link to this! (Heh, with the bit I actually got to see so far, I'm truthfully more interested in the music in the background! :oops: :oops: Should I be? Whoops! 8) )
I still can't get over that I first *read* this movie, which I think is going to make it a bit more difficult for me to watch it, because I have the characters whom I read and followed through their triumphs and struggles in my head, but there's someone totally knew on screen that I have to learn to follow and love... =O_o= If that made sense to anyone....
Sakura Kitty :kitty:
Laura
05-08-2004, 01:14 PM
Wow, the trailer looks really good, I can't wait to see it. I loved the original and was worried that the remake would suck, but so far so good. Thanks for the link.
pygmalion
05-09-2004, 06:48 PM
I hope you're right, LauraB. Either way, every self-respecting ballroom person, at least, needs to get there on opening weekend, I think. We need to send Hollywood a message that ballroom dance can sell movie tickets. (sorry. My political activist side is showing. :oops: :lol: ) Seriously, though, the more of us that go see it, the more dance movies there may be to see in the future. :wink: 8)
Sakura
05-09-2004, 08:44 PM
I hope you're right, LauraB. Either way, every self-respecting ballroom person, at least, needs to get there on opening weekend, I think. We need to send Hollywood a message that ballroom dance can sell movie tickets. (sorry. My political activist side is showing. :oops: :lol: ) Seriously, though, the more of us that go see it, the more dance movies there may be to see in the future. :wink: 8)
Kudos to you for that Sentiment, Pygmalion! But, of course, our *key* word here needs to be that there may be more *good* dance movies in the future! :wink: 8)
Sakura Kitty :kitty:
pygmalion
05-09-2004, 08:46 PM
I'll take what I can get. At the moment, dance movies will do. If they're provided in numbers, some of them will be good, some will be great. But first, the studios have to be willing to fund dance movies. *shrug*
Sakura
05-09-2004, 08:56 PM
But first, the studios have to be willing to fund dance movies. *shrug*
:D :D Heh, heh; see, this is where I have to get into semantics, because my mind is just like that.... We have to be careful about what studios are funding what kind of dance movies; 'cause we might end up with some porno movie with dance in it! :shock: :oops: :shock: I know; but in an entirely sarcastic, horridly-not-funny way, it's kinda funny, right? *hears crickets chirping* Ah.... Gotcha. :wink:
Sakura Kitty :kitty:
pygmalion
05-09-2004, 09:04 PM
Actually, I think there's a fair amount of controversy in the porno industry -- some AIDS scare or the other is threatening to shut the industry down, at least as of last Friday. My view is that dance movies that get supported, good or bad, engender the production of similar movies. So, for me, every dance movie is a must-see, regardless of the reviews. I've sat through some bombs, but at least it's in the interest of seeing good stuff in the future. 8) :lol:
Sakura
05-09-2004, 09:13 PM
Actually, I think there's a fair amount of controversy in the porno industry -- some AIDS scare or the other is threatening to shut the industry down, at least as of last Friday. ... I've sat through some bombs, but at least it's in the interest of seeing good stuff in the future. 8) :lol:
*nods* I didn't see that the industry was getting threatened to shut down; but I *did* see the AIDS scare.... :? Not that I'd choose to head for that career choice, but I hope they all end up okay.
Kudos to you for going to see them Pygmalion, and persevering after the bombs! You're a shining role model for us! *hugs*
Sakura Kitty :kitty:
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