Basic Syllabus for an On 2 Class

[DanceMentor]

I am in the midst of my 3rd Semester teaching On2 Salsa at the Georgia Tech University, and I wanted to get some advice about what you are used to seeing in On 2 classes. Here is what I have taught so far:
1) Basic starting on 5-6-7 (of course)
2) Right Turn
3) Cross Lead
4) Left Turn

Combinations:
1) Left Turn to Right Turn
2) Cross Lead to Left Turn (and even Right Turn after Left Turn)

What would you do next?

[Beto]

I am in the midst of my 3rd Semester teaching On2 Salsa at the Georgia Tech University, and I wanted to get some advice about what you are used to seeing in On 2 classes. Here is what I have taught so far:
1) Basic starting on 5-6-7 (of course)
2) Right Turn
3) Cross Lead
4) Left Turn

Combinations:
1) Left Turn to Right Turn
2) Cross Lead to Left Turn (and even Right Turn after Left Turn)

What would you do next?
Hmm, off the top of my head I'd suggest a right turn followed by a copa. It's one of the neater combos people pick up when learning on2 especially since the leader can step back on their 6 to initiate the copa immediately after the follower has finished their turn on the 1,2,3.

[Alias]

... I wanted to get some advice about what you are used to seeing in On 2 classes. Here is what I have taught so far:
1) Basic starting on 5-6-7 (of course)
2) Right Turn
3) Cross Lead
4) Left Turn

I guess (because of "on 2" and "5-6-7") it's about the "ET2" variant of "cross-body-lead slotted salsa", but anyway aren't the moves the same (with the timing adjustment) among the three variants (LA, P2, ET2) (except if you want to use the particularity of one basic step).
I guess (1) that the forward break of the leader is on 6, hence the move is counted (567 123 ).

I guess that "Right Turn" is a right turn for the follower occuring in the second part of the move (after the pendulum in the first part).
But what is "Left Turn"?

Oh ... Are you talking about basic steps or about basic moves? Because I've seen "Right Turn" and "Left Turn" in basic steps seen in Shines. Or are you talking about basic shines?

[youngsta]

Hmm, off the top of my head I'd suggest a right turn followed by a copa. It's one of the neater combos people pick up when learning on2 especially since the leader can step back on their 6 to initiate the copa immediately after the follower has finished their turn on the 1,2,3.
I'd agree, seems to be one of the foundation moves for on2ers.

[DanceMentor]

Forgive my lack of knowledge, but a "Copa" is like a checked inside turn that starts with an open break and the mans' footwork is basically reversed. Correct?

[Beto]

Forgive my lack of knowledge, but a "Copa" is like a checked inside turn that starts with an open break and the mans' footwork is basically reversed. Correct?
That sounds about right. The 123 for the leader doesn't change and neither does the 5. But on 6 and 7 (the leader and follower's hands are already crossed at this point, right to right on top) the leader steps back instead. This leaves the follower open in the copa position and the leader holding them (pretty much shadowing them in a copa, literally a "cup") by the time you hit 1.

[africana]

weird thing is i follow all these patterns & moves but I couldn't tell you much about how to start them or what they're called or even putting counts to each part :oops:
it's kinda like the way some instructors use sounds (liek pa-ka-dum-dum-dam-pa-da) instead of counts to teach :? kinda hard to translate in writing

there are lots of good videos out there (like the razz m tazz collection) with on2 basic partnering lessons. Probably a better source to use these visual examples

[Beto]

weird thing is i follow all these patterns & moves but I couldn't tell you much about how to start them or what they're called or even putting counts to each part :oops:
it's kinda like the way some instructors use sounds (liek pa-ka-dum-dum-dam-pa-da) instead of counts to teach :? kinda hard to translate in writing

there are lots of good videos out there (like the razz m tazz collection) with on2 basic partnering lessons. Probably a better source to use these visual examples
You bring up a good point. Sometimes sounds being used to demonstrate or break down a sequence of moves actually works better. Frankie Martinez did that in a workshop he was teaching in Puerto Rico back in 2003 and I've seen and heard other instructors do that too. I think Frankie might've actually been using another language that was African in origin but which country's he used I'm not sure of.

[Alias]

Forgive my lack of knowledge, but a "Copa" is like a checked inside turn that starts with an open break and the mans' footwork is basically reversed. Correct?
There is some discussion and descriptions of the "Copa" move starting at this post (http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=114464#114464) in the "Describe salsa moves (http://www.dance-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=6770)" topic.

[DanceMentor]

I'm trying to understand. I even have a short clip, but it happens so quick in the video. I am taking a lesson tonight, so hopefully I will understand much more very soon. 8)

[Beto]

I'm trying to understand. I even have a short clip, but it happens so quick in the video. I am taking a lesson tonight, so hopefully I will understand much more very soon. 8)
I wouldn't be too concerned. It's a very quick and easy move to lead but I'm sure you'll get it pretty soon. :D

[rails]

weird thing is i follow all these patterns & moves but I couldn't tell you much about how to start them or what they're called or even putting counts to each part

Not weird at all. Most of the followers I know have very little idea what the leader is doing or thinking about even if they're good at following it.