As per your Perception..

[Sabor]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?

[youngsta]

A pool of upcoming talent. We were talking about that last night. We can't figure out how to get new people to keep wanting to come back and get better. It's pretty frustrating.

[Vin]

Before this thread gets hijacked, which I bet will happen before I finsih writing this post . . .

We are lacking a consistent saturday fix.

We are lacking dj's that play "popular" salsa.
Let me explain. In the scene here many of the popular songs are popular because the DJ's play it and not really the other way around. I would like it if our dj's would play just a "tad" bit more of the mainstream popular good salsa(read: more than none).

We may not like it all but the popular music is popular for a reason, there are lots of good songs that I rarely hear in the clubs and would absolutely love.

Case in point: I have only lately(last couple of weeks) started hearing "no le pege a la negra" in the clubs, that song has been around for alot longer than that.

[Rosa]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?

Sexy men! :lol: But that's difficult because my SO doesn't dance. I go out in a group with my (male and female) friends just for the pleasure of dancing, nothing more. But sexy movements are an integral part of salsa, merengue etc, so what do you do?

You either do it right, or you don't. I look on it as a kind of play-acting. I know where my heart lies, but... yeah, I'd like my salsa scene to include more men who'll play-act a little. I guess what i'm saying is that I'd like a little more dance-floor ... flirting! :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rosa :)

[Sabor]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?

Sexy men! :lol: But that's difficult because my SO doesn't dance. I go out in a group with my (male and female) friends just for the pleasure of dancing, nothing more. But sexy movements are an integral part of salsa, merengue etc, so what do you do?

You either do it right, or you don't. I look on it as a kind of play-acting. I know where my heart lies, but... yeah, I'd like my salsa scene to include more men who'll play-act a little. I guess what i'm saying is that I'd like a little more dance-floor ... flirting! :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rosa :)

We'll send brotha Youngsta over as soon as we can!.. he's a little over booked i'm sure u understand 8)

[Rosa]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?

Sexy men! :lol: But that's difficult because my SO doesn't dance. I go out in a group with my (male and female) friends just for the pleasure of dancing, nothing more. But sexy movements are an integral part of salsa, merengue etc, so what do you do?

You either do it right, or you don't. I look on it as a kind of play-acting. I know where my heart lies, but... yeah, I'd like my salsa scene to include more men who'll play-act a little. I guess what i'm saying is that I'd like a little more dance-floor ... flirting! :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rosa :)

We'll send brotha Youngsta over as soon as we can!.. he's a little over booked i'm sure u understand 8)

Will try to focus my mind on Youngsta as soon as I've got to grips with your ever-changing avatars! :lol:

Rosa :)

[youngsta]

See how he tries to deflect things to me Rosa? HE needs to start up the Zexxy roadshow! :lol:

[Rosa]

See how he tries to deflect things to me Rosa? HE needs to start up the Zexxy roadshow! :lol:

Yep, think he needs to take up trainspotting... or patchwork quilting... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rosa :)

[Sabor]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?

Sexy men! :lol: But that's difficult because my SO doesn't dance. I go out in a group with my (male and female) friends just for the pleasure of dancing, nothing more. But sexy movements are an integral part of salsa, merengue etc, so what do you do?

You either do it right, or you don't. I look on it as a kind of play-acting. I know where my heart lies, but... yeah, I'd like my salsa scene to include more men who'll play-act a little. I guess what i'm saying is that I'd like a little more dance-floor ... flirting! :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rosa :)

We'll send brotha Youngsta over as soon as we can!.. he's a little over booked i'm sure u understand 8)

Will try to focus my mind on Youngsta as soon as I've got to grips with your ever-changing avatars! :lol:

Rosa :)


maybe this will help u focuss your mind..? 8)

http://www.salserosweb.com/cal/2004/mRobYoung.jpg

[youngsta]

:lol: :lol: You play dirty, didn't have to bring out the pole work!

[tj]

Where's the photo from, R?

[Sabor]

:lol: :lol: You play dirty, didn't have to bring out the pole work!

:lol: the secret was bound to come out anyway :lol:

[SDsalsaguy]

Where's the photo from, R?
Yeah... and how did Sabor get it? :shock: :wink:

[Rosa]

Great photo, nice to see youngsta's got a sense of humour! 8) :lol:

Rosa :)

[Pacion]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :idea: "like the desert misses the rain", I miss "me" in my salsa scene :wink:

[alemana]

more woman leaders. i would KILL for that.

i started learning to lead myself, but i was too impatient.

[Twilight_Elena]

I miss... more people! The only decent salseros I know are... wait. I don't know any decent salseros! :shock: :shock: Heeelp! (Teacher not counted in, obviously. He's a demigod.). And let me not get started with salseras.
Hmmm. My salsa scene is not exactly a scene, to be honest with you. I'm sure there IS a real salsa scene in town, but I'm 17 and have too much homework and too little time (and a curfew!) to be able to really get around the clubs and so on. So what I call "salsa scene" consists of a handful of poeple that attend the lessons with me. Lessons are just before the studio's party starts, so that's about it for my social dancing life. It's not exactly what a salsera would want, but I have to make do.
I'm happy to see we've got live and kickin' salseros, Youngsta and Sabor. :P :wink: Give me a cheer when you get to my part of the world.
Oh, and about the sexy dancers? Bring them on! :wink: :wink:

Twilight Elena

[youngsta]

Where's the photo from, R?
Yeah... and how did Sabor get it? :shock: :wink:
It was taken during our gangstah theme night when I was out in LA over a year ago. It was submitted for sexiest salsero so it's posted online...that's how the troublemaker got it! :lol:

[aragonh]

Was it taken during the Congress??

The tent looks like the Mens dressing room from last years LA congress

[youngsta]

Nope, it was at a house party actually.

[tj]

:rocker: :rocker:

Woo hoo!

:cheers: :cheers:

[africana]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?
- we need more young men in my scene who can "go the distance", who don't get tired as often of the older guys populating my scene, guys that can keep up with intense/fast-tempo music (and with me :lol: ).
In short we need more men (esp ET2 dancers) to even out the ratio

- we need more creative dancers with their own dynamic style to excite beginners and newcomers to improve

- we need more integration, between dancers of cuban-style versus LA/NY. personally it's been fun moving in between all the groups/cliques, so I can see how everyone wil benefit more from a united dance community

overall it's a pretty good scene, but could get better at some things

[BrookeErin]

diversity of style ~ I didn't realize how different on1 and on2 could be until someone tried to lead me on2 at the Chicago Congress. And the things I saw there... :shock: It was amazing and inspiring. I am certainly not saying we all look a like, but maybe we're just all used to each other... so maybe I just need some new faces occasionally or the opportunity to travel more

and you can ALWAYS use more sexy men and safe, playful flirting on the floor.

[youngsta]

I'm no Sabor mind you, but I've been known to get my flirt on when I'm dancing :twisted:

[delamusica]

I'm no Sabor mind you, but I've been known to get my flirt on when I'm dancing :twisted:

And here's an eyewitness to that! :)

[macha]

We need more youngstas and Sabors (sabores? sp, my bad) for us plus-sized women. Since we equal two women, you get the idea.. :P

(I'm Shameless when I'm on this merlot... geez...the things I'll regret tomorrow...)

[squirrel]

We need more friendliness, more modesty... more good Salsa music (Gosh, "No le pege a la negra" - I know that song too well, together with Juliana, Ave Maria Lola, Dejate Querer, La negra tiene tumbao, Micaela, Rebellion, Azucar Negra ... I am sick and tired!)

We need more of everything!

[Sabor]

I'm no Sabor mind you, but I've been known to get my flirt on when I'm dancing :twisted:

And here's an eyewitness to that! :)

i believe it! now dont go playin humble on me brotha.. i can tell who can bring it and who can't even if i never seen them dance yet.. its a gift tell u.. and it tells me that if u be dancing, i'm gona be sitting down and watching 8)

Ladies.. trust me.. hunt Youngsta down if u have to.. and thank me later!

[Sabor]

We need more youngstas and Sabors (sabores? sp, my bad) for us plus-sized women. Since we equal two women, you get the idea.. :P

(I'm Shameless when I'm on this merlot... geez...the things I'll regret tomorrow...)

sounds like somebody needs to post her pic real quick!.. por favor muchacha :P

[wuthering]

We need more openness. Why is it that if I go to a new place I hardly get to dance? So if I want to enjoy myself, I have to stick with my usual club :?

[Rosa]

We need more youngstas and Sabors (sabores? sp, my bad) for us plus-sized women. Since we equal two women, you get the idea.. :P

(I'm Shameless when I'm on this merlot... geez...the things I'll regret tomorrow...)

Hey, macha, think you're gonna have to change your profile. As a lurker, you're a total failure... 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rosa :)

[Sagitta]

We need more openness. Why is it that if I go to a new place I hardly get to dance? So if I want to enjoy myself, I have to stick with my usual club :?

Ask people to dance? :?

[azzey]

Me. I've been away from what I think as my scene (Scotland) for 6 months now and have been missing it but in 1 week I'll be back and dancing again! Can't wait.

The thing I miss in most scenes, including Scotland is enough advanced dancers and dancers with good soft connection who really dance to the music. So i'll have to start training some more up.. hehe.

[b.b.]

We need more friendliness, more modesty... more good Salsa music (Gosh, "No le pege a la negra" - I know that song too well, together with Juliana, Ave Maria Lola, Dejate Querer, La negra tiene tumbao, Micaela, Rebellion, Azucar Negra ... I am sick and tired!)

This is the same music repertoire I used to hear every Thursday, Friday, Saturday... Thank goodness I am too busy helping my dance studio so I am 'resting' from salsa clubs (did I realy say this??? :shock: ). I hope all these songs won't bother me when I hit the scene again, since they will sound like classic by then.
Will somebody please send us a new DJ?

[wuthering]

We need more openness. Why is it that if I go to a new place I hardly get to dance? So if I want to enjoy myself, I have to stick with my usual club :?

Ask people to dance? :?

This is Europe here, AKA old world. Some people don't like being invited by women. Or is it me who's raised like that?

[jhb]

We need more friendliness, more modesty... more good Salsa music (Gosh, "No le pege a la negra" - I know that song too well, together with Juliana, Ave Maria Lola, Dejate Querer, La negra tiene tumbao, Micaela, Rebellion, Azucar Negra ... I am sick and tired!)

This is the same music repertoire I used to hear every Thursday, Friday, Saturday... Thank goodness I am too busy helping my dance studio so I am 'resting' from salsa clubs (did I realy say this??? :shock: ). I hope all these songs won't bother me when I hit the scene again, since they will sound like classic by then.
Will somebody please send us a new DJ?

For curiousity's sake, what other music are people totally sick of hearing at the clubs?

[Alias]

This is Europe here, AKA old world. Some people don't like being invited by women. Or is it me who's raised like that?
wuthering, you should go and check the "Les filles qui invitent (http://www.forumsalsa.net/yabbse2/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=4681)" (girls who invite) topic in the Salsa France web Forum (http://www.forumsalsa.net/yabbse2/) (if you can read french of course), all the men say they are pleased to be invited by women.

[aragonh]

Im honored by being asked to dance by a lady.
To me, it means she has been checking me out :wink:

or It means that Im very approachable.

Either way, I always say yes.

[wuthering]

Thx, I'll check that out. However, I noticed that the few guys whom I've invited so far don't tend to invite me again on their own initiative.

[Sagitta]

We need more friendliness, more modesty... more good Salsa music (Gosh, "No le pege a la negra" - I know that song too well, together with Juliana, Ave Maria Lola, Dejate Querer, La negra tiene tumbao, Micaela, Rebellion, Azucar Negra ... I am sick and tired!)

This is the same music repertoire I used to hear every Thursday, Friday, Saturday... Thank goodness I am too busy helping my dance studio so I am 'resting' from salsa clubs (did I realy say this??? :shock: ). I hope all these songs won't bother me when I hit the scene again, since they will sound like classic by then.
Will somebody please send us a new DJ?

Add to that "ya Boy" by Aventura, and "gasolina" - reggateon.

[Sagitta]

We need more openness. Why is it that if I go to a new place I hardly get to dance? So if I want to enjoy myself, I have to stick with my usual club :?

Ask people to dance? :?

This is Europe here, AKA old world. Some people don't like being invited by women. Or is it me who's raised like that?

There always will be people who want things the traditional way and other such as argonh who are pleased when asked. And as for people not asking you agin if the female:male ratio is skewed this could be why this happens. Also they may not remember. I get ladies who talk to me about enjoying their dances with me before and I cannot imagine why I didn't ask them again as I am really enjoying the current dance... :oops: I would rather think positive then negatively about those who don't ask you after you ask them.

[delamusica]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?

Sexy men! :lol: But that's difficult because my SO doesn't dance. I go out in a group with my (male and female) friends just for the pleasure of dancing, nothing more. But sexy movements are an integral part of salsa, merengue etc, so what do you do?

You either do it right, or you don't. I look on it as a kind of play-acting. I know where my heart lies, but... yeah, I'd like my salsa scene to include more men who'll play-act a little. I guess what i'm saying is that I'd like a little more dance-floor ... flirting! :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rosa :)

We'll send brotha Youngsta over as soon as we can!.. he's a little over booked i'm sure u understand 8)

:lol: Mr. Sassy Hips - saving salsa scenes the world over!

[Vin]

We need more friendliness, more modesty... more good Salsa music (Gosh, "No le pege a la negra" - I know that song too well, together with Juliana, Ave Maria Lola, Dejate Querer, La negra tiene tumbao, Micaela, Rebellion, Azucar Negra ... I am sick and tired!)

This is the same music repertoire I used to hear every Thursday, Friday, Saturday... Thank goodness I am too busy helping my dance studio so I am 'resting' from salsa clubs (did I realy say this??? :shock: ). I hope all these songs won't bother me when I hit the scene again, since they will sound like classic by then.
Will somebody please send us a new DJ?

Add to that "ya Boy" by Aventura, and "gasolina" - reggateon.

You guys would all love it here, I hear those songs maybe once every two months or so. In fact I would like to hear them more often. Except Gasolina, unfortunately I hear that song about every week.

note Yay Boy-Africando

[leaf]

I hope the salsa scene here has less mechanical dancers and that they would put more groove and feel to the music they dance to... including myself. :oops:

[Sagitta]

We need more friendliness, more modesty... more good Salsa music (Gosh, "No le pege a la negra" - I know that song too well, together with Juliana, Ave Maria Lola, Dejate Querer, La negra tiene tumbao, Micaela, Rebellion, Azucar Negra ... I am sick and tired!)

This is the same music repertoire I used to hear every Thursday, Friday, Saturday... Thank goodness I am too busy helping my dance studio so I am 'resting' from salsa clubs (did I realy say this??? :shock: ). I hope all these songs won't bother me when I hit the scene again, since they will sound like classic by then.
Will somebody please send us a new DJ?

Add to that "ya Boy" by Aventura, and "gasolina" - reggateon.

You guys would all love it here, I hear those songs maybe once every two months or so. In fact I would like to hear them more often. Except Gasolina, unfortunately I hear that song about every week.

note Yay Boy-Africando

Thanks...I knew that! :oops: Perhaps my mind will be better once my other prelim is over at 9 tonight...

[Vin]

Good luck on your prelim

[dancin_feet]

What is my salsa scene missing .... ? Well, let me see ....

Friendliness and willingness to welcome new people would be nice.

Have been out in the local salsa scene a couple of times, and it was always unwelcoming and unfriendly. Even though we had a male friend there who was deeply into the scene no-one even approached us. He even tried to drag some people over to meet us, but they disappeared back onto the dance floor (without us) or back to their little group very quickly. When we had had enough of this, we started dancing with each other and got the filthiest looks!

They have already had one venue close on them because of the lack of patronage. Haven't been out since that happened, maybe they have learnt their lesson, I don't know. I'm a bit hesitant to spend money on a venue again and get ignored and looked down on like some bit of trash.

[youngsta]

:lol: Mr. Sassy Hips - saving salsa scenes the world over!
:lol: :lol: My hips can only do so much!

[africana]

Have been out in the local salsa scene a couple of times, and it was always unwelcoming and unfriendly. Even though we had a male friend there who was deeply into the scene no-one even approached us. He even tried to drag some people over to meet us, but they disappeared back onto the dance floor (without us) or back to their little group very quickly. When we had had enough of this, we started dancing with each other and got the filthiest looks!

They have already had one venue close on them because of the lack of patronage. Haven't been out since that happened, maybe they have learnt their lesson, I don't know. I'm a bit hesitant to spend money on a venue again and get ignored and looked down on like some bit of trash. my goodness this sounds pretty bad! Are you sure it's intentional? Have you tried asking people instead of waiting for them to ask? I also encourage beginners/newcomers to take the club lessons especially at the venues where the instructor makes you rotate partners every few minutes. It's a great way to meet future partners, have them check you out ;) It works great if you new to club/scene
Also you're aware that most avid dancers like to switch partners often? I know I don't like to be stuck with anyone person for the entire night, however good he is
HTH

[djpatricio]

What are we missing here? That's too easy. The answer is...SALSA DANCERS! That's why I'm quitting djing here, at least for a few months. :cry: Last night I got a request for Britney Spears, for chrissake! In the middle of a freakin salsa and reggaeton set! So instead I played a salsa, this bitchin new tune called Tremendo Boogalu. :twisted: :bkick:

[Tasek]

Last night I got a request for Britney Spears, for chrissake!

And you shot that person, I assume??

[MacMoto]

This is Europe here, AKA old world. Some people don't like being invited by women.
:shock: Really? I go around asking men wherever I go, and most men seem really pleased when asked (admittedly, I've never danced in your country).

What's missing in my scene... you know, I'm actually quite happy with my scene. If you cover both of the two cities (and beyond), you can find a place to dance any given night, we have excellent teachers and DJs, plenty of good dancers who are friendly, you can dance both LA style and Cuban...

Yes and my glass is half full :wink:

[Sagitta]

This is Europe here, AKA old world. Some people don't like being invited by women.
:shock: Really? I go around asking men wherever I go, and most men seem really pleased when asked (admittedly, I've never danced in your country).

What's missing in my scene... you know, I'm actually quite happy with my scene. If you cover both of the two cities (and beyond), you can find a place to dance any given night, we have excellent teachers and DJs, plenty of good dancers who are friendly, you can dance both LA style and Cuban...

Yes and my glass is half full :wink:

Cool. :D

[b.b.]

What's missing in my scene... you know, I'm actually quite happy with my scene. If you cover both of the two cities (and beyond), you can find a place to dance any given night, we have excellent teachers and DJs, plenty of good dancers who are friendly, you can dance both LA style and Cuban...

I think I am moving to Scotland!

[djpatricio]

Last night I got a request for Britney Spears, for chrissake!

And you shot that person, I assume??

I should have, but I didn't. I'll have to find the customer service policy manual and see if shooting people is OK. If people ask for 50 Cent, I should be able to shoot them 9 times.

[tj]

Last night I got a request for Britney Spears, for chrissake!

And you shot that person, I assume??

I should have, but I didn't. I'll have to find the customer service policy manual and see if shooting people is OK.

Probably only in Durango or Casper... :wink: :roll:

[Sagitta]

Good luck on your prelim

Thanks. All done... :)

[peachexploration]

Last night I got a request for Britney Spears, for chrissake!

And you shot that person, I assume??

I should have, but I didn't. I'll have to find the customer service policy manual and see if shooting people is OK. If people ask for 50 Cent, I should be able to shoot them 9 times.

Or shoot them fifty times for asking about any kind of Cent at a Salsa event or venue. :? And, asking for Britney!?! Good grief! :roll: Give me a break. :?

We need more quality and variety of Salsa Schools and instructors in my area. The more qualified variety, the better. 8)

[pygmalion]

Amen to that, peach. 8)

[squirrel]

@ wuthering: I agree with Mac Moto. Never ever have I had a problem inviting guys to dance (or girls, when I lead). I went to Paris as well and invited there anybody I felt like dancing with.

[Sabor]

since i have no perception (lost it while shopping a while back) .. i cant reply to this :mrgreen:

[Vin]

since i have no perception (lost it while shopping a while back) .. i cant reply to this :mrgreen:

weren't you the op?

[salsera_alemana]

Raluca,

[quote="squirrel"]We need more friendliness, more modesty... more good Salsa music (Gosh, "No le pege a la negra" - I know that song too well, together with Juliana, Ave Maria Lola, Dejate Querer, La negra tiene tumbao, Micaela, Rebellion, Azucar Negra ... I am sick and tired!)
quote]

You hit the nail on the head! Juliana, Ave Maria Lola, Micaela ... the DJs should finally have mercy on us!

Marita

[salsera_alemana]

[quote="Sagitta

note Yay Boy-Africando[/quote]

Yeah, that one was missing in the collection! That is my all time No. 1 "anti favorite"!

During my time in the Netherlands (1996 to 99) I heard nothing but those list of songs every Friday, Saturday and sometimes Sunday. We always went out with the hope to maybe hear something else, but mostly in vain. We tried out all salsa places from Rotterdam to Amsterdam, from The Hague to Nijmegen and Eindhoven, but it was the same music everywhere. Pleading with the DJs was in vain, too. Once you are more than sick of certain songs, you will not even like them much later when they sound like classics to you.

I don’t understand why some DJs play the same music week after week. There is so much good salsa music out there and they make us listen to the same over and over. If you want some good salsa music to listen to while at the computer, go to Tito Morales' (DF member) salsa station at http://www.live365.com/stations/mrsalsoul?play.

[BrookeErin]

as someone who entered the salsa scene in July, I found that it's sometimes helpful to recognize songs. People like dancing to songs they know (I bet it gets more people on the floor) and there is emtional memory of a good experience that will also energize people for a recognizable song. As a beginner, one will feel less lost when they are able to recognize a song, a face, a pattern... I also think this becomes more important for those who are not fluent in Spanish. I'm not saying it should be the exact same playlist every night, but I think it's more wise to replay a few songs then to have an entirely new set each night.

[salsamale]

What are u missing in your Salsa scene?
It would be great if we had an after-hours salsa club, for every night of the week. An all-bachata club would be nice too :).

[salsera_alemana]

You guys would all love it here, I hear those songs maybe once every two months or so. In fact I would like to hear them more often. Except Gasolina, unfortunately I hear that song about every week.

note Yay Boy-Africando

Vin, the place to be for you is for example the Netherlands. We had to listen to those songs every single night we went out (Fri to Sun) for 3 years when we lived there (and they played only that type of salsa, samo samo samo... nothing for our taste). And most people loved them, it seemed that was the only type of salsa they knew at that time (96-99) and I bet you they still play those songs over and over.

We developed a "serious allergy" against these songs and still, after 8 years, we look at each other (my hubby and I) when one of those songs is played and we say "Remember Holland?" Now these songs are like classics of an otherwise (except salsa) wonderful time we had in Holland.

Yeah, wish I was in Puerto Rico! You have the absolute greatest music there. But we all have different tastes. I know you are in Mayaguez and that is far away from where the action is...

[salsera_alemana]

Sorry that I repeat myself. Just noticed that this is an old threat and I had posted the exact same complaint before...

[tj]

Pardon my speaking for Vin, but I believe when he originally posted this, he was still living in DC.

That being said, he's definitely got some amazingly good music to experience in PR, I'm sure!

[tangotime]

Puerto Ricans !! -- Boricua .

[delamusica]

My salsa scene is missing music, djs, dancers, and dance venues . . .

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. . oh wait . . . that's because there is no salsa scene here . . .


:car:

[tj]

:doh:

Sounds like we need to get a whole bunch of us to come visit you and throw a big salsa party! :banana::banana:

[noobster]

A little loving kindness, a little nurturing of individuality... it's a subtle complaint really. For the most part it's a great scene.