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KevinL
04-01-2005, 01:49 PM
"Trade Partners to Learn Faster", Amateur Dancers, January/ February 2005

Single people sometimes attend group dance classes, pay their admission fee like everyone else, and then spend the entire class without ever dancing with a partner. These people rarely return to class a second time. Why would someone not come back to dancing? Sometimes it is because the teacher never asked the students to trade partners, so those brave souls who got up the nerve to attend alone were never partnered and didn’t get the chance to feel the joy of dancing with a partner.

It is understandable that some dancers might not be interested in trading partners. However, if the goal of learning to social dance is to learn to dance well with a variety of people what better situation is there to do that than in a group class? Certainly wedding couples who are only taking one lesson shouldn’t be expected to trade partners, but perhaps they should take advantage of a private lesson to learn what they can in only one hour. Even beginning competitive couples could be well served by trading partners, although at higher levels trading partners might be counterproductive.

Trading partners in group classes helps people to learn to dance in a number of ways. Trading partners gives students the chance to dance with better dancers so that they can feel how the step or pattern should feel. If two people begin classes together and only dance with one another, they miss the opportunity to dance with more experienced dancers who might be able to help them learn. Students who refuse to trade partners often take longer to learn what the class is covering and require additional repetitions of the material which slows down the entire class, so overall it is better for a group class if everyone trades partners.

At the same time, trading partners gives students the chance to dance with less experienced dancers. It is while dancing with a less skilled dancer that a person learns (as a leader) what signals to give or (as a follower) what signals indicate a certain movement. Trading partners ensures that the woman gets to experience what different leads feel like, and that the man gets to experience the different responses the woman might have to the way he leads. In this way each person builds stronger lead or follow skills.

By trading partners it immediately becomes obvious if one half of a partnership is weaker than the other. If a leader is unable to lead a step with a succession of followers, it is clear that he is doing something wrong. If a follower is unable to follow that step with a succession of leaders, it is clear that the follower is doing something wrong. In a group class situation it is often challenging for the instructor to identify problems between partners. Instructor can fix problems more efficiently when the partners can identify the weak piece on their own

Trading partners is also a good way to ensure that people are more forgiving of their partners. It sometimes happens that people are more critical of their friends and acquaintances than they are of strangers. There is less chance that partners will be critical of one another while learning with strangers.

Trading partners lets students meet and interact with thier classmates. This is beneficial because people tend to be more comfortable with a group of friends and acquaintances than they are with a group of strangers. Also, other students might become friends and this will build a group of people to interact with at dances and social events.

The final reason that trading partners is a good idea is that it limits the negative impact of lead/ follow unbalanced classes. It is common to have extra women (or sometimes men) in a class, and if the partners never change these people are left without a partner for the entire evening. Trading partners ensures that everyone, on average, dances with a partner most of the time.

Although trading partners is the best way to learn to dance well in a group class situation, couples have the right to stay together and shouldn't be made to dance with others if they don’t want to do so. After all, they have paid for the class just like the unattached. However, part of the trade-off for inexpensive group classes is that students are part of a group, not just a couple. Some teachers and schools require that everyone trade partners and ask people who are not comfortable with trading partners to take private lessons.

Eventually, though, most people come to realize that social dancing is a lot more fun if you dance with other people, especially during dance class.

newbie
04-07-2005, 09:34 AM
During our last A.T we had an unbalanced set-up (10 men and 12 women). After noticing that some women were more often not dancing than the others, the (female) teacher gave them two pieces of advice:
-) Don't wait for a man to come to you and invite you. As a woman, you may like/be used to being invited, but here you have to go to some guy and ask him.
-) Go to the nearest guy, don't cross the floor to go to your favourite (most skilled, cutest...) leader, because chances are he'll be the favourite of the other women too.

aimerrouge
04-07-2005, 10:12 AM
I agree with the concept of trading partners. It works wonders.

In another corner of the web, a lead is complaining about very good dancers not dancing with him enough. I'm tempted to point him to this posting.

I'm also tempted to remind him good dancers aren't obligated to keep him dancing all night long. :roll:

johns
04-10-2005, 04:09 PM
One of the best ways I've found to deterimine if I'm really leading a step correctly is to lead a variety of followers through it. On more than one occasion, I've found that a lady responded differently than I had expected - she thought I was leading her into a different movement. At my next lesson, I discussed the problem with my teacher, who figured out something I was doing that could be quite misleading. Sometimes it took several iterations of this process to work things out. Sometimes one source of the confusion was that the lady knew a more advanced step which I did not, and she believed I was leading her into it. At the end of the day, progress is made (I hope... :-) )

In group classes, I've noticed another benefit of trading partners. The abilities and knowledge of the students in a class often covers a wide range. Although the instructors teach patterns and technique that are generally appropriate for the level of the class, they also often quietly provide additional, more tailored instruction to the students they dance with in rotation. The net result is that you always leave the class having learned something - even if you already knew the patterns and basic technique before you entered the room.

- John

pygmalion
04-11-2005, 11:19 AM
Nice observations. 8)

kansas49er
04-11-2005, 11:40 AM
My dance partner is my wife. We take privates together, as well as our team practice where we are partners. We started at the same time, although I have to express that she is picking up WCS dancing a little quicker than I am. That being said, trading partners can be a great teacher for the both of us. It is much easier to learn who really is at fault for the "wrongnes" of a move as we ddance with others. I know "the man is always at fault" on the dance floor. I take that responsibility. However, perfecting a step, pattern, or movement is much easer if both partners can Identify their own weaknesesses. CHanging partners helps with that.
Also as we go through increasing competence, it is our obligiation, in our minds, to help along those behind us. It is our obligation and really our pleasure, to perpetuate the dance, by dancing with those behind us. AS IF WE WERE VERY FAR DOWN HE ROAD! LOL! FInally, Dance is a social thing. We have met and are now friends with those we dance with, starting with rotating partners during class. Of course, I know nearly all the women and only a few of the men, she knows nearly all the men and few of the women, but we do have our mutual circle of both and we are not intimidated or jealous....because we know and trust each other so well. Trading partners can be frustrating sometimes, but the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages

KevinL
04-27-2005, 09:23 AM
However, perfecting a step, pattern, or movement is much easer if both partners can Identify their own weaknesesses. CHanging partners helps with that.

That is certainly a large part of why I encourage people to trade partners!

Also as we go through increasing competence, it is our obligiation, in our minds, to help along those behind us. It is our obligation and really our pleasure, to perpetuate the dance, by dancing with those behind us. AS IF WE WERE VERY FAR DOWN HE ROAD! LOL!

This is another excellent point. It's also vey helpful for the newer dancers to dance with people even newer than they are because it gives them a boost of confidence. Hey I actually know how to do something!

FInally, Dance is a social thing. We have met and are now friends with those we dance with, starting with rotating partners during class. Of course, I know nearly all the women and only a few of the men, she knows nearly all the men and few of the women, but we do have our mutual circle of both and we are not intimidated or jealous....because we know and trust each other so well.

This is the biggest reason that I like to trade partners. It builds a sense of community in the classes, and makes social dances easier because dancers already know other people there. Of course the problem of only knowing the names of the dancers who do the opposite role does lead to interesting conversations on the way home after dancing...

"Bob said that he really enjoyed the class tonight."
"Bob who?"
"Bob Smith"
"Who is that?"
"The tall guy with the moustache?"
"I don't think I know who that is."
"He comes with that short lady with the curly hair."
"Mary, or Sue?"
"I don't know. I think she was wearing blue tonight."
"Oh, that was Sue. I wondered what that guys name was..."

Trading partners can be frustrating sometimes, but the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages

I totally agree, 8^)

squirrel
04-27-2005, 09:33 AM
I use name tags to remember the names of my students... :) Really...!

Swingolder
04-27-2005, 09:44 AM
I love to change partners in a class. My dh does not. Fortunately we don't usually have a say on whether we do or not, that is usually the teacher's choice. My dh will change if the instructor says to, but I know he prefers to go to classes where he doesn't have to.

I, too, like the social part of it, meeting other dancers who we will then run into when we are out. Makes me feel like a part of a dancing circle.

MacMoto
04-27-2005, 09:57 AM
"Bob said that he really enjoyed the class tonight."
"Bob who?"
"Bob Smith"
"Who is that?"
"The tall guy with the moustache?"
"I don't think I know who that is."
"He comes with that short lady with the curly hair."
"Mary, or Sue?"
"I don't know. I think she was wearing blue tonight."
"Oh, that was Sue. I wondered what that guys name was..."

:lol: :lol: :lol:
This situation is very familiar -- I assume the first speaker is female and the second male. I often have conversations along these lines with male salsa pals.

I really don't like it when teachers don't make students rotate (change partners). In local salsa classes it is the norm to rotate, but at salsa congress workshops, often teachers don't rorate the class. :(

kansas49er
04-27-2005, 10:00 AM
I use name tags to remember the names of my students... :) Really...!

We use name tags too! Of course, since I am not that close to most of the men, it doesn't help there. It does, however, give me a chance to learn the name of the ladies (learning is not always remembering, unfortunately :oops: ) I get the opportunity to dance with. :D