Seen Any Good Movies Lately?

[pygmalion]

I bet you haven't. All you hardcore dancers out there are too busy dancing to get dressed, load up the car, and see an actual film in a theater (DVD's of dance movies don't count. :lol: ) So prove me wrong, folks. Seen any good movies lately? :D

[youngsta]

I LOVED Kill Bill! Yeah for those that can't stomach it it's violent as all get out, but for a marital arts film addict like me it was just fun. Very stylish, a LOT of pop culture references, and GoGo is one of the coolest movie sidekicks ever!!

[Swing Kitten]

Rabbit-Proof Fence... really quite good-- poignant. This is the last film I see in a theater-type setting... before that it had been months since I went to the movies.

[dancer_of_god]

oh goodie- more stuff to answer (see procrastination thread)
i can talk for hrs about this!!!
pirates of the caribbean was the bomb(orlando bloom certainly didn't hurt it)
matrix 1 and 2- so good but really creepy
center stage- see it, watch it, memorize it like i did
LOTR- need i say more
Harry Potter- yes, yes, yes
hocus Pocus- yah it's old but i just saw it.
i could go on but i've got things to do.(see top line.)

[SwinginBoo]

FINDING NEMO!!!! It was so great! It comes out on DVD on Nov. 4th :D

[dancer_of_god]

i so agree :P

[dancersdreamland]

Finding Nemo - Can't wait to get the DVD!!!

Luther - Very real look at the Lutheran religion and how it came to be. Very though provoking and historical.

Hmm...to broke to see anything else, but I want to see Mona Lisa Smile when it comes out in December and Harry Potter III next June.

[MissAlyssa]

Bowling for Columbine was WEIRD! It had some "wow, can't belive they are talking about this" moments, should see it.

[SDsalsaguy]

I think that movie is very telling.

[bouncybouncyweee]

ummm...
I saw Spellbound. soooo good (documentary about the national spelling bee)
I also saw Camp which was really amusing. (Think Fame in a camp setting, but cuter and more down to earth)
and American Splendor was great, especially if you're a comic book reader.
And Pirates was hysterical. You see, my friends and I thought the movie would be awful, and we also think we're really funny :roll: , so we took some bottles of coke and rum to the movie to drink whenever anyone said anything cheesy or lame, believing that any movie would be great after that. But the movie turned out to be incredibly good, so we changed the criteria to when Johnny Depp acted hot or gay, which was every scene...
I also saw Y tu Mama Tambien again... mmm..

[dancer_of_god]

Luther was ok, but you should study the facts before seeing it distorted by hollywood.

[Sagitta]

I also saw "Y tu Mama Tambien" this past week, but on cable on the Independant Film channel. My favourite channel as the movies shown are not the usual bland nonsense. There is a nice variety. I don't usually have time to watch movies at the cinema so I just wait for them to come out on cable, record them and then watch them at my leisure.

[pygmalion]

ummm...
I saw Spellbound. soooo good (documentary about the national spelling bee)

I heard a story about spellbound on NPR. Supposed to be very good.

Also the name of an old movies (late 40's sometime) with Ingrid Bergman and Gregory Peck. Worth a watch.



Had anybody seen Brother Bear? I try to check out all the G-rated animated films. Oh, and by the way, the local theaters are already advertising for Lord of the Rings, Return of the King. YES! :D

[bouncybouncyweee]

yes, I saw the original Spellbound. It's a Hitchcock movie! Very good, but you have to acknowledge the hilarity of the "special effects" (Skiing down a slope in front of obvious blue screen... hee hee.) Not nearly as good as other hitchcock films though.

Speaking of Gregory Peck, you must love the movie (and AMAZING book) To Kill A Mockingbird!!

[pygmalion]

One of my Favorite movies of all time. My family actually has a recipe for "Boo Radley cake" -- the cake we make every time we're going to watch To Kill a Mockingbird together. :D

[bouncybouncyweee]

One of my Favorite movies of all time. My family actually has a recipe for "Boo Radley cake" -- the cake we make every time we're going to watch To Kill a Mockingbird together.

That has got to be the fluffiest thing I've ever heard! I haven't seen it in sooo long now...

Ok, so where are the musical dorks? anybody up for Cabaret?

[pygmalion]

Hey! Fluffy is good. :D

Cabaret I didn't get. But there are a lot of great musicals out there. :D

[SDsalsaguy]

Hey! Fluffy is good. :D
Don't fret Jenn, for Lily "fluffy" is a compliment of the highest order!

[bouncybouncyweee]

yesssss!

Jonathan, now official DF bouncy translator, you are fluffy too! Except for the whole evil losing weight thing. That's not fluffy.

[suek]

Just saw Pieces of April. Good, great performances by Patricia Clarkson and Oliver Platt. Katie Holmes (I think that's her name) is the lead. Good story.

Jenn, you didn't get Cabaret? Sigh. Although the movie is weak. Saw the revival on Bway about 4 years ago with Alan Cumming. OMIGOD. Changed my life. Dark. Unbelievable.

Mockingbird is also one of my faves.

Did you see Lost in Translation? Very good.

Since I have no plans for Thxgiving and there won't be any dancing (too bad) that day, I'm thinking about catching up on movies. Someone said it on an earlier post: Since I've been dancing, I just don't go to as many movies any more (who wants to sit for two hours when one could be dancing?).

Here's a fun thing: the five movies you'd take to a desert island.

My top five are Godfather 1 and 2 and I'm stuck as always for 3,4 and 5. Candidates include: Some Like It Hot, All About Eve, Bang the Drum Slowly, Field of Dreams, Bull Durham, Jesus' Son, Drugstore Cowboy, Born Yesterday, Bells Are Ringing, Deer Hunter, To Kill a Mockingbird, Manchurian Candidate, Kiss of the Spider Woman, French Connection, Bullitt, Philadelphia Story, It Happened One Night, Double Indemnity, Taxi Driver, Wuthering Heights, Duck Soup, Meet Me in St. Louis, Singin' in the Rain, Taps, To Have and Have Not, The Big Sleep, Arsenic and Old Lace, Notorious...to name a few. Clearly my desert island better have a video store.
This was fun.

[bouncybouncyweee]

I loved the movie Cabaret!

But I understand how it might pale in comparison the the play. I will say though, it's one of the VERY FEW movie musicals that actually works on film. WestSide Story= BAD on film!

My five movies, hm?

Beauty and the Beast...

and then I'm lost. I mean, there are so many, and considering that I watch a total of about... 14-18 hours of the screen a month... it shows you how often I like to be in front of the screen. I despise television, and won't have a working one in the house, except for the DVD capabilities. I do love movies though!

[dancersdreamland]

I agree...I also did NOT get Cabaret.

Just wanted to FYI everyone...there's a new DANCE MOVIE coming out in early Decemeber called Honey. It stars the Dark Angel actress, Jessica Alba. Not sure what it's about, but if it's dance...it's gotta be good!

I'll have to get it added to the movie section of my site!

[Sagitta]

Just saw "Bug's Life" Friday as I sat home giving my right ankle a break. Pretty good.


Also this is not a movie, but a cable TV series...I saw "Queer Eye for a Straight Guy" yesterday night and the last ten minutes were hilarious. I was rolling around with laughter, and rolled right onto the floor!! LOL.

[SwinginBoo]

Also this is not a movie, but a cable TV series...I saw "Queer Eye for a Straight Guy" yesterday night and the last ten minutes were hilarious. I was rolling around with laughter, and rolled right onto the floor!! LOL.

I haven't seen this yet, but my friend says it's the most hilarious show she's ever seen. What channel is it on?

[pygmalion]

It's on Bravo, and it is hilarious. I'll never get over the time they waxed some guy's back! :D Classic TV moments! :lol: :lol:

[Swing Kitten]

It's on Bravo, and it is hilarious. I'll never get over the time they waxed some guy's back! :D Classic TV moments! :lol: :lol:

I don't know whether to say ouch or eww!

[SDsalsaguy]

Great show! I love it! :D

[Vince A]

Let me tell you one movie "NOT" to get . . .

"Boat Trip" with Cuba Gooding. I heard him in an intervue once, saying that he would "never ever make a movie that his kids couldn't watch."

Our 12 year-old picked it out, and because we remembered hearing what Gooding had said in the intervue, agreed it was OK. The box said "Not Rated," which should have told us something.

This movie was bad . . . language, content, and nudity . . . I seriously doubt that his kids would be allowed to watch it.

We turned it off within the first 30 seconds of the movie. I'm no prude, but my son will not be exposed to this stuff. He can make that decision on his own after he turns 18.

[dancersdreamland]

:bouncy: NEW DANCE MOVING COMING SOON!!! :bouncy:

Title: Honey

Expected Release Date: December 5, 2003

Official Site: http://www.honey-movie.com/

Genre: Drama/Romance

MPAA Rating: PG-13 for drug content and some sexual reference

Plot (taken from www.imdb.com): Honey (Alba) is a sexy, tough music video choreographer who shakes up her life after her mentor gives her an ultimatum: sleep with him or be blacklisted within their industry. - I personally think this plot synopsis is an understatement. Checkout the trailer at the office site. The movie looks to be full of hope, passion, and DANCE!!!!

Choreographer: Laurie Ann Gibson

Characters:
Honey...Jessica Alba
Chaz...Mekhi Phifer
Benny...Lil' Romeo

Notes: There are TONS of dancers in the crew! Should be a boogy good time!

[jon]

Master & Commander. Weir does not capture the scope of Patrick O'Brian's marvelous work, and barely touches on the complexity of the Aubrey-Maturin relationship at its core. But within the constraints of a Hollywood movie, he's done a fine job.

[Swing Kitten]

Clearly my desert island better have a video store.

not to mention electricity! But I believe if the desert island has cocnuts then you should be ok ;)

:lol:

[Sarah]

Master & Commander. Weir does not capture the scope of Patrick O'Brian's marvelous work, and barely touches on the complexity of the Aubrey-Maturin relationship at its core. But within the constraints of a Hollywood movie, he's done a fine job.

Considering the amount of material in that series, and the fact that not everybody in the theatres will have any sort of background about Napoleonic-era naval practice that's hardly surprising. I'm looking forward to it anyway.

I'm pretty much of the opinion that novels generally should not be made into movies (LOTR notwithstanding) as there is just too much material there. Some of the best movie adaptations have been of short stories eg Bladerunner. The length is right.

Cheers
Sarah

[Sagitta]

So LOTR is really worth seeing? I never see movie adaptations of books, unless I see the movie first...but, perhaps I'll see LOTR then...

Along the same vein of thought...I never see any sequels of movies. I saw a couple, but never really liked the sequels compared to the first movie. Any fantastic ones out there that shouldn't be missed?

[Swing Kitten]

I hear that the second Godfather is better than the first.

[dancersdreamland]

The second Harry Potter movie is just as AWESOME as the first!

[SDsalsaguy]

The Empire Strikes Back is widely regarded as the best of all the Star Wars movies...

[pygmalion]

Anything after Jaws ... thumbs down.
Anything after Friday the thirteenth ... thumbs down.
Anything after Father of the Bride ... thumbs down.
Anything after Halloween ... it depends.
Indiana Jones ... first movie great, third movie great, second movie, huh? Why did I bother to take the day off to see the premier? :? :lol:

[pygmalion]

I saw School for Scoundrels today. It had a weird, ironic kinda humor. Not sure I'd call it good. Weird, kinda dark, self-consistent and really well-done, I thought. Not my kind of humor, though. And, to make it all worse, there were two ladies sitting near me who thought everything in the movie was side-splittingly laugh-out-loud funny. After about half an hour, I wanted to throttle them both. That part of the experience was pretty funny, in retrospect. :lol:

I will say that Billy Bob Thornton really impresses me, as an actor. everything role I've seen him play has been totally different from every other and executed believably. He's a good actor, IMO.

[chachachacat]

I just saw The Illusionist, and I really enjoyed it! Best movie I've seen in a while.

Does anyone know if School for Scandal follows Moliere's play at all? Loosely?
It must have some relation, I'd think.

[pygmalion]

No idea about the play. Hmm. :?

The trailer for the illusionist looked ... suspenseful. Maybe I'll put that on my list for next weekk :cool:

[Twilight_Elena]

Though I've seen it many times before, I watched "Casablanca" again yesterday. *swoon*
Here's lookin' at you, kid.

T_E

[pygmalion]

That's always a good one. :D

[Twilight_Elena]

That's always a good one. :D

*sigh* I must be the only girl (at my age) that swoons over Bogey.

T_E

[Joe]

Well, if it matters, I swoon over Bergman.

[Twilight_Elena]

Well, if it matters, I swoon over Bergman.

I don't blame ya. ;)

T_E

[Twilight_Elena]

Just saw "Honey" (someone talked about it in this thread a couple of years ago). Now I feel all hip-hop and such. That Jessica Alba sure can dance! :D
One day, I'll have to try hip-hop. I have absolutely no idea what a class would be like or what they teach, but...

T_E

[pygmalion]

*ignorance alert* They have hip hop classes in Greece?

[tanya_the_dancer]

Went to see "The Departed" today. Better than I expected.

[Joe]

It's long, but it keeps you so involved that you don't know that much time has passed, and at the end you wish there was more!

[motardmom]

*Bump*

Seen any good movies lately?

I have a friend that I go to dinner and a movie with periodically, every couple weeks or so (it's coming up soon...). Whenever we get to the theater, he turns to me and asks, "So... what do you want to see?" I hate that question. I don't watch TV so I don't see any previews for current movies! I have no idea what's playing. Then he has to pick the movie and it turns into this awkward, "But what do YOU want to see?" kind of discussion. UGH!

Right now, I want to see Bridge to Terabithia (having re-read the book for the sole purpose of going to see the movie). But, I always like to say, "Oh, let's see this movie or that movie", thus narrowing down the choice to 2, both of which I am interested in, then he can pick which he would like to see and everyone ends up happy..... So what else is playing?

[mamboqueen]

Just saw Little Miss Sunshine....very cute...quirky.

[SuzieQ]

My daughter and I went to see "Music and Lyrics" last night. We really enjoyed it. Hugh Grant just keeps getting better and better (and looking better and better, imo) at the one role he plays! And he sings!

[fascination]

memoirs of a geisha

[Vince A]

Wanna see a "no-nudity, no-bad language, no violence, no-over-the-top actors, budget film that motivates you and makes you very teary-eyed? You will catch yourself on the edge of your seat, cheering and rooting!

See "Facing the Giants." A little above a moderate religious movie, but so powerful . . . one that some of us should see the week just before we go to a dance competition. It certainly can and will help you!

I'm not pushing religion, Christianity, or anything like that. It's very seldom that I sat and watch a movie . . . and I was glued to this one!

[tj]

Saw Children of Men a few weeks ago. It was different - certainly beautifully shot. Had a little trouble buying the basic premise, the friend that I saw it with even moreso.

Also saw Letters from Iwo Jima. Not as "hit you over the head" anti-war as Flags of our Fathers, and probably a better movie.

[Dancebug]

Watched La Dolce Vita last weekend...

[samina]

Watched La Dolce Vita last weekend...

niiice. :)

[Spitfire]

Fly Boys

Flags Of Our Fathers - read the book too.

[SlowDancer]

My daughter and I went to see "Music and Lyrics" last night. We really enjoyed it. Hugh Grant just keeps getting better and better (and looking better and better, imo) at the one role he plays! And he sings!

I really wanted to see this last weekend, but couldn't find anyone to go with me...I'll try again this weekend. I'm not in the mood for anything heavy right now and this movie sounds like it would fit my mood perfectly.

[SlowDancer]

memoirs of a geisha

Another one that's been on my list but I still haven't gotten around to seeing it. I loved the book.

[fascination]

well usually dangerous to see the movie after the book, but I liked the movie having never read the book

[motardmom]

Another one that's been on my list but I still haven't gotten around to seeing it. I loved the book.

Memoirs of a Geisha is one I've been wanting to see but haven't yet. It's on video now, no? (I don't want this guy at my house... lol)

[samina]

nearly 2/3 thru matrix marathon -- finishing up the 2nd movie & onto the 3rd. it's been awhile. amazing how different i'm experiencing it from the last time i watched the trilogy. rich food for thought, that one...

[Joe]

Children of Men was very dystopic. The end was a little disappointing, too. But it was quite engrossing.

[tj]

nearly 2/3 thru matrix marathon -- finishing up the 2nd movie & onto the 3rd. it's been awhile. amazing how different i'm experiencing it from the last time i watched the trilogy. rich food for thought, that one...


Yeah, an action movie (or movies, in this case) with cutting edge effects, a relatively engrossing plot, and a whole lot of philosophy = a good movie in my book.

The idea of humans being machines but with biological software is an interesting one. Not being that well versed in that subject at the time, led me to do a bunch of follow-up reading afterwards.

[tj]

Children of Men was very dystopic. The end was a little disappointing, too. But it was quite engrossing.


Yeah, I agree w/you. Didn't have much to think about afterwards, though.

[SuzieQ]

I really wanted to see this last weekend, but couldn't find anyone to go with me...I'll try again this weekend. I'm not in the mood for anything heavy right now and this movie sounds like it would fit my mood perfectly.

I hope you enjoy it. We actually laughed out loud at parts--I don't do that very often. And did I mention that Hugh Grant is---yummy?;)

[Dancebug]

memoirs of a geisha
Why did they make these Japanese speak English in the movie? What do you think about that?

[motardmom]

Why did they make these Japanese speak English in the movie? What do you think about that?

I'm guessing it was because the number of people who speak Japanese is far outstripped by the number or people who speak English. (Speaking from a marketing standpoint...) Japanese is a wonderful language... but...

[DWise1]

Why did they make these Japanese speak English in the movie? What do you think about that?
As a form of torture?

From "Moscow on the Hudson": Tell me, after speaking English all day, does your mouth hurt too?

Years before in college, a friend from Yugoslavia had said that when she was learning English in school her mouth hurt after every English class.


But seriously, I thought that the movie was made for the English-speaking market. If they were targeting the French, then the actors would have been speaking French.

Trivia learned from PBS' three-part biography of Buster Keaton: They used to shoot the same film several times, each time in a different language. Supporting parts would be played by native speakers, but the lead actors were in each version, having learned their foreign lines phonetically. I once saw such a film, Laurel and Hardy in Spanish.


No movies to report. No one to go with. No time to rent one and be sure I can watch it that same day. So whatever I can catch on HBO or Showtime.

[Dancebug]

I'm guessing it was because the number of people who speak Japanese is far outstripped by the number or people who speak English. (Speaking from a marketing standpoint...) Japanese is a wonderful language... but...
I guess that is why. But I think the movie lost something because of that.

[tanya_the_dancer]

Why did they make these Japanese speak English in the movie? What do you think about that?

Maybe because not all actors spoke Japanese? Besides, the target audience was English-speaking.

It was nice, though, with the original "Shall we dance" that they made subtitles instead of dubbing it. I think it preserved some cultural feel of the movie, which would have been lost otherwise.

[Dancebug]

It was nice, though, with the original "Shall we dance" that they made subtitles instead of dubbing it. I think it preserved some cultural feel of the movie, which would have been lost otherwise.
Exactly my point.

[DWise1]

Not just the cultural feel, but also the sense of the dialogue would be lost. I found the mixing of English into the Japanese to be interesting.
Tamako-sensei would sometimes count in English, sometimes in Japanese. Plus her "slow, slow, quick quick". And Mia's [name?] final invitation in English of "Shall we dance, Mr. ___?" (sorry, forgot his name) would have also been lost if it had been dubbed.

Years ago I saw a French movie that had been dubbed into English. In one scene, the guy meets with his tutor for an English lesson. Needless to say, the whole scene didn't make any sense at all to an English-speaking audience.

Similarly, I saw Cabaret in Germany dubbed into German. Remember when he first meets Sally and she stumbles through broken German before bursting out in English that she's just dying for a cigarette. Same thing in the German version, only she goes from broken German to fast and fluent German.

I can't understand why people hate subtitling so much. The only disadvantage I see to it is that when I'm watching one at home I have to keep my eyes on the screen, whereas if it's in English then I can work on something and still follow what's happening by listening.

Up-side to subtitling: One Scandanavian country -- Sweden, I think -- shows programming from other countries all subtitled, even cartoons for the children. They have one of the highest literacy rates.

[MacMoto]

Maybe because not all actors spoke Japanese? Besides, the target audience was English-speaking.
Yes the main characters were played by Chinese actresses -- casting was very much a marketing decision (use well known faces rather than getting Japanese actresses to play the roles), and that made it impossible to shoot the movie in Japanese.

In the last couple of months I saw Apocalipto (not a word of English), Babel (English, Spanish, Japanese, Berber, Arabic, French) and Blood Diamond (English, Krio, Mende, Afrikaans). Surely the English speaking audience is getting more used to reading subtitles now?

[tanya_the_dancer]

I can't understand why people hate subtitling so much. The only disadvantage I see to it is that when I'm watching one at home I have to keep my eyes on the screen, whereas if it's in English then I can work on something and still follow what's happening by listening.

One problem I have with subtitles, is that sometimes I have to strain my eyes too much to read them. They're usually in the bottom of the screen. If something gets into that area, which is same color as the titles... Maybe it is more of a problem for me because I am nearsighted. I don't remember this being a problem in "Shall we dance", but I remember having an issue with this when I watched "White" from "Blue, White and Red" trilogy.

[DWise1]

I remember encountering that problem in the movie "Midway" (I'm pretty sure, or else "Tora, Tora, Tora"). Toshiro Mifune as ADM Yamamoto was giving a speech in his dress white uniform and the white subtitles just blended right in.

I suspect poor reading skills/semi-literacy is why a lot of people don't like subtitles. Myself, I want to hear that other language, but then I started college as a language geek. I got a lot out of seeing "Z" the first week it was out, since it was subtitled then, even though I was only in my first year of French at the time. And having seen "Das Boot" at least once before it was forever dubbed (I've never found it again in German). And having heard at least one line of Shakespeare in the original Klingon (... no, wait a minute ...).

When you see the movie subtitled and know at least something about the language, then you can catch what's really being said rather than only the translation. And you can hear the actor's own voice and voice quality. A lot of dubbed voices do not convey that same quality. For example, when I saw "Spiel's noch mal, Sam" ("Play it again, Sam") dubbed into German, they had given Woody Allen a deep masculine voice. His neurotic whining is part of his humor.

[Joe]

Why did they make these Japanese speak English in the movie? What do you think about that?
Any one of a number of reasons. Midway. Or Iwo Jima. Fat Man. Little Boy. Etc.

[Corne]

yes, MQ, little miss sunshine was cute and a good movie.I really, really, liked the memoirs of geisha movie.Anybody saw "Babel" movie ? Only opening this friday here in my home country. It has an age restriction of 16 and rated as LN (bad language,nudity) present in the movie. Anybody care to comment on this ?

[squirrel]

I've seen lots of Matt Damon movies lately. :) Love that guy.

So:
Good Will Hunting - re-seen it like the 5th time - mmm... yummy.
The Talented Mr. Ripley - I am truly in love with this movie!
The Bourne Identity - nice and relaxing (have seen it before, but still like it)
The Bourne Supremacy - nice as well
Ocean's 12 - boring, Brad Pitt and Matt Damon kept me there (they both are attractive...).
The Good Shepherd - enjoyed it immensely
The Departed - liked it

Also, I've seen:
Babel - dissapointing
Apocalypto - could not finish watching it, qualifies as one of the most boring movies for me

I wanna see Stomp the Yard. Seems to have some nice dancing.

[quixotedlm]

I saw Mary Antoinette. I thought it was done well. But they didn't show the Guilottine ending. Disappointing :(

[Joe]

You wanted your blood?

[quixotedlm]

You wanted your blood?

Well, after enduring 2 hours of non-stop fashion parade, I deserve at least that much :-|

[Genesius Redux]

Best recent films (not in any particular order):

1. Art School Confidential. Kind of like LA Confidential in art school. Nice little satire.

2. Casino Royale. The *best* Bond film since Thunderball, and the second best of all time (after From Russia With Love).

3. The Good Shepherd. Just a really good spy film. Matt Damon has found his niche, and is exploiting it.

4. Children of Men. Very compelling. Michael Caine is the new cool old guy.

5. Brick. Very very cool neo-Noir film in a high school setting.

6. Notes on a Scandal. Judi Dench and Cate Blanchett. Oh my God. Oh. My. God. P.S. Cate I love you, I want to have your baby.

[alemana]

NOTES was astounding.

Last night: BREACH. Eh.

[Dancebug]

Lucia & Sex and Bad Education last week.

[Genesius Redux]

NOTES was astounding.

Seriously. I normally need at least a strong male lead to really interest me in a film. However good the actress, I want to see an actor carry it. In this case, I was wondering if the two of them could keep my attention. Holy cow, did they ever. Judi Dench is the Goddess not only of stage but now of screen. What an incredible presence.

[samina]

Seriously. I normally need at least a strong male lead to really interest me in a film. However good the actress, I want to see an actor carry it. In this case, I was wondering if the two of them could keep my attention. Holy cow, did they ever. Judi Dench is the Goddess not only of stage but now of screen. What an incredible presence.

huh. will take that under advisement. i so want to see a good film. have been wondering if they still make them...:rolleyes:

[Peaches]

Oh my God. Oh. My. God. P.S. Cate I love you, I want to have your baby.
LOL!

[samina]

if i were a guy, i probly woulda felt that way after seeing her in LOTR... whattagoddess...

[samina]

Lucia & Sex and Bad Education last week.

i enjoyed lucia & sex - i think i have it on dvd.

haven't seen bad education -- what is that?

[Dancebug]

i enjoyed lucia & sex - i think i have it on dvd.

haven't seen bad education -- what is that?
Bad Education was directed by Spanish Director Pedro Almodovar. He also made Talk to Her and All about My Mother.

[samina]

Bad Education was directed by Spanish Director Pedro Almodovar. He also made Talk to Her and All about My Mother.

ahhh... will check it out! i like his stuff!

[DWise1]

I didn't realize that El Sexo y Lucia had gotten that much play. I always tried to keep an eye open at the video stores for foreign films, but there just isn't much.

I coined a term from that movie, a "paella moment": a moment that hits you hard with the fact that you are no longer part of a couple. I'm not sure why it is, but every restaurant I've been to that served paella will only serve it to two people, not to just one. So Lucia (getting over the loss of her lover) sits down in a beach-side restaurant and orders paella and is refused, politely, since she's alone. At which point she runs out of the restaurant crying.

I had recounted my own "paella moment" here a couple years ago. When bagging apples in the grocery store, I would always tuck the wire tie under my wedding band until I needed it to tie off the plastic bag. So one day I tucked the wire tie under my wedding band only to realize that the ring was no longer there and was reminded of why it was not longer there. Only I didn't run out of the store crying.

[Dancebug]

DWise1,

You seem to be having hardest time trying to recover from your divorce. You often claim you don’t know why your ex wanted to divorce you. Do you really not know? Do you really not have any clue? It that is a true case, I think you need to sit down with your ex and explain your plight truthfully and ask her for the explanation. I think not knowing the reason makes the recovery one hundred times more difficult. But before you do that, please try to look inside and ask yourself if you really do not know. (Don’t people sometime say they don’t know certain truth because they are so afraid of it?)

[samina]

I didn't realize that El Sexo y Lucia had gotten that much play. I always tried to keep an eye open at the video stores for foreign films, but there just isn't much.

i think i picked the dvd up at a video closeout store... i'm like you, always on the lokout for a more obscure foreigh film. :)

I coined a term from that movie, a "paella moment": a moment that hits you hard with the fact that you are no longer part of a couple.

i like that....

hmmm... trying to think of a paella moment i may have had... it's been ovr 14 years since i was married.... um...

well, i remember when i took my ring off my finger that first month we parted... it felt strange to have a ring off my finger. the mgr at the restaurant i was working at said he had just the ring for me & my newly single life... brought it in & gave it to me and i wore it for many years.. loved that ring

other than that... have been single more than paired, i supppose, so not too many paella moments. :)

[Genesius Redux]

I had recounted my own "paella moment" here a couple years ago. When bagging apples in the grocery store, I would always tuck the wire tie under my wedding band until I needed it to tie off the plastic bag. So one day I tucked the wire tie under my wedding band only to realize that the ring was no longer there and was reminded of why it was not longer there. Only I didn't run out of the store crying.

Yeah, I had that moment when I realized that the only time I still needed to use my band was when I was playing a married character on stage. And that night I ran out of the theatre whistling and skipping.

[samina]

And that night I ran out of the theatre whistling and skipping.

*lol*

how long ago was this?

[Genesius Redux]

*lol*

how long ago was this?

3 or 4 years, I think. Almost 6 years since the Big Split.

Since then, I've gotten into the habit of going to movies by myself, even when I'm otherwise in a relationship. Nice to have those moments alone.

But--in the thread--not a good movie "recently," but one of my all-time fave comfort movies. "Murder on the Orient Express." Directed by Sidney Lumet. Incredibly lush costumes and great music--a Viennese theme song that's way to fast to dance to (at least for me). And it makes me think of how I want to direct Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night," with the same opulent costumes, and full ballroom choreography.

And actually, has anyone seen Branagh's "Love's Labors Lost"? He does the whole comedy like and old-fashioned 1930s ballroom musical, dancing and music by Gershwin and others. Featuring Branagh of course, and Alicia Silverstone and Nathan Lane and a bunch of others. Some very nice dancers in it (especially considering they weren't all dancers to start).

It's what Shakespeare should be--rich music, ballroom dancing, explosions of joy....

[samina]

i definitely liked MOTOE... <note to self: good one to pick up for library..>

haven't seen branagh's LLL... up my alley for a saturday nite viewing, tho...

you guys have some good recommendations

[DWise1]

DWise1,

You seem to be having hardest time trying to recover from your divorce. You often claim you don’t know why your ex wanted to divorce you. Do you really not know? Do you really not have any clue?

Oh, I can hazard a number of guesses. But that is all they are, guesses. And none of them would come anywhere close to warranting her actions which demonstrate such immense hatred towards me.

It that is a true case, I think you need to sit down with your ex and explain your plight truthfully and ask her for the explanation.

Obviously, you had not been paying any attention. Any kind of honest discussion with her is impossible. She despises me. She can't stand to be in the same room that I'm in -- several times we'd be somewhere (at a big dance with over 200 people) and one person would show up whom she had decided that she couldn't stand and she'd immediately insist on leaving; that's the kind of person she is. One time, that I know of, I showed up at a crowded venue she happened to be at -- I never saw her, but she did see me -- and, a mutual acquaintance told me, she was furious that I would dare to be there. You also obviously missed the scene where I did ask her for an explanation and she marched around the room head thrown back in gleeful malicious laughter glorying in the pain that she was causing. Or when I had been invited to the house for our son's graduation from police academy and I tried to offer a simple polite common-courtesy thank-you for letting me be there and she not only refused to hear it, let alone accept it, but also made some kind of odd hand gesture that seemed to be a cross between flipping me off and bidding me to get the hell out of there as fast as possible. Or when she called me because she needed the admin password for the PC (even though I had made sure to give it to her before I left) and as I was trying to spell it for her she launched into some kind of sick mind game of deliberately misspelling it (eg, I'd give her an "s" and she'd insist is was a "v").

Now, please explain to me how you could possibly imagine that she would even begin to allow me to "sit down with [her] and explain [my] plight truthfully and ask her for the explanation."

As I had said (and you obviously also did not notice), she would have to undergo a drastic transformation before such an event could possibly occur. Should she ever undergo such a transformation, I will be ready to discuss it with her. But I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it.

[Dancebug]

Obviously, you had not been paying any attention.
Obviously!

Any kind of honest discussion with her is impossible. She despises me. She can't stand to be in the same room that I'm in -- several times we'd be somewhere (at a big dance with over 200 people) and one person would show up whom she had decided that she couldn't stand and she'd immediately insist on leaving; that's the kind of person she is. One time, that I know of, I showed up at a crowded venue she happened to be at -- I never saw her, but she did see me -- and, a mutual acquaintance told me, she was furious that I would dare to be there. You also obviously missed the scene where I did ask her for an explanation and she marched around the room head thrown back in gleeful malicious laughter glorying in the pain that she was causing. Or when I had been invited to the house for our son's graduation from police academy and I tried to offer a simple polite common-courtesy thank-you for letting me be there and she not only refused to hear it, let alone accept it, but also made some kind of odd hand gesture that seemed to be a cross between flipping me off and bidding me to get the hell out of there as fast as possible. Or when she called me because she needed the admin password for the PC (even though I had made sure to give it to her before I left) and as I was trying to spell it for her she launched into some kind of sick mind game of deliberately misspelling it (eg, I'd give her an "s" and she'd insist is was a "v").

[size=3][font=Times New Roman]Now, please explain to me how you could possibly imagine that she would even begin to allow me to "sit down with [her] and explain [my] plight truthfully and ask her for the explanation."

As I had said (and you obviously also did not notice), she would have to undergo a drastic transformation before such an event could possibly occur. Should she ever undergo such a transformation, I will be ready to discuss it with her. But I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it.


Now I wonder what you did to get such intense disdain and hatred from a woman.

[DWise1]

Obviously!


Now I wonder what you did to get such intense disdain and hatred from a woman.

Join the club! Starting to see why I'm so baffled by it all? And ready to second-guess everything that I might say and do as being devastatingly wrong. And being scared so dungless of any new relationships because either a) I'll destroy it too in the same clueless manner or b) (horror of horrors) what if my ex turns out to have been normal (meaning that I'll encounter the same thing in any relationship I try). Even if b is not true (I do not really think that it's true and I certainly that it's not), there's also the oft cited tendency to unconsciously seek out the same kind of person as the ex.


I forget what show it was on TV, but a male character was offering sage advice to the other males, something to the tune of:
In your first marriage, you make lots of mistakes. Your second marriage is worse, because you're trying to avoid those mistakes and you end up making even worse mistakes. Now the third marriage, there you have a chance to get it right.


So knowing why would help me immensely to try to correct my flaws and to not waste time and energy and to not cause even worse mistakes by constantly second-guessing what's wrong with me. I do know that I did something(s) wrong, but I don't want to be sidetracked on trying to correct something else that isn't wrong.

In the meantime, I just want to avoid that entire quagmire altogether.


PS
Sorry, y'all. Wrong thread for this. But this is where it developed.

And now we return to the regularly scheduled programming.

[Dancebug]

La Belle Noiseuse . It took two days to finish. Almost four hour movie....

[Dancebug]

Cache. I did not know anything about the incident in1962, which was mentioned in the movie briefly. In my opinion, the incident that 200 Algerians got drowned in the Seine is huge, but I could not find specifics of it online. Maybe I was not looking in the right direction. If anybody knows, please share.

[fascination]

well neither are new, but I recently saw de-lovely and in addition to adoring kevin cline I am very intrigued by the level of devotion in such an unconventional sort of love story...i found it compelling....also saw bridget jones, and while it wasn't earth shattering, as a curvy girl, I resonated and enjoyed it....I also find hugh grant extremely sexy

[Peaches]

I watch Bridget Jones and think how beautiful she looks in that film--sooooo much prettier than when she's all skinny.

Hugh...blech. Now, Colin Firth...mmm...

[DancePoet]

Saw "Saving Private Ryan", again. First time for the SO, but she didn't say much.

[DancePoet]

Saw the "Bridget Jones" movie a ways back, it was ok.

Renee Zelleweger is more than just ok. :raisebro:

[mamboqueen]

I'm embarrassed to admit I watched Borat. OMG. My husband watched it the night before and I heard him laughing the entire time. I don't get it. Well, other than that shot of him in that "sling" bathing suit.

Took my dd to see "Meet the Robinsons". Yawn. Nap time for mom.

[fascination]

Saw "Saving Private Ryan", again. First time for the SO, but she didn't say much.
cannot watch other than btwn my tightly closed fingers over my eyes

[DancePoet]

I'd rather go see the new TMNT movie over Meet the Robinsons.

[Peaches]

Refuse to watch it. I saw my grandfather's facial expression when he saw a preview of it--and he made the comment that he lived it so he didn't need to see it all over again. If it's that realistic, I can't handle it.

[samina]

I watch Bridget Jones and think how beautiful she looks in that film--sooooo much prettier than when she's all skinny.

...

see, now i'm puzzled when you make remarks like that because you are a self-described aficionado of the stick-figure look...:shock:

[DancePoet]

cannot watch other than btwn my tightly closed fingers over my eyes
She was very good about watching it even though she wasn't sure she'd like it, and I warned her in advance of the one scene towards the end where the German that Hank's character freed earlier is ... well ... not sure there is even a easy way to say it ... slowing driving a knife into one of the Americans. Not a pretty scene. The SO looked away during this scene upon my advice, and returned after it was over.

[fascination]

Refuse to watch it. I saw my grandfather's facial expression when he saw a preview of it--and he made the comment that he lived it so he didn't need to see it all over again. If it's that realistic, I can't handle it.
that's sort of me too...having been a grief counselor for years, I don't really need to be more exposed

[yippee1999]

Last good film I saw (rented via Netflix, which totally ROCKS!) was... "Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...Spring". Beautiful, slow, zen sorta film (Korean). If you like foreign or thoughtful sorta films, you might like this. Beautiful cinematography.

[Peaches]

see, now i'm puzzled when you make remarks like that because you are a self-described aficionado of the stick-figure look...:shock:
Beautiful is beautiful...when it comes to other women, although I do tend to like stick-ish the way some guys have a preference for light or dark hair. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate all body types.

I strongly prefer the stick look for myself, in theory.

[fascination]

me too...though I have never seen it and am apparently highly resistant to it

[Dancebug]

Last good film I saw (rented via Netflix, which totally ROCKS!) was... "Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...Spring". Beautiful, slow, zen sorta film (Korean). If you like foreign or thoughtful sorta films, you might like this. Beautiful cinematography.
I don't mind zen sorta film, but I need to be in certain mood to enjoy that kind of movie. For example, I am glad that we watched La Belle Noiseuse , but boy, didn't it feel like finishing a task? Before I married, I had a lot more time and movies were something I always look forward to. Now it is something to kill time, like when we are too tired to go to dance practice.

[samina]

watched the thomas crown affair last night. gotta be some of the best on-screen chemistry ever captured between leads. i really enjoy that flick...

[DancePoet]

watched the thomas crown affair last night. gotta be some of the best on-screen chemistry ever captured between leads. i really enjoy that flick...
Oooh! Really liked that film. And don't mind the first one either. :cool:

[mamboqueen]

watched the thomas crown affair last night. gotta be some of the best on-screen chemistry ever captured between leads. i really enjoy that flick...

LOVED that movie! IIRC, there was a very sexy dress involved....

[samina]

very, very sexy dress :cool:

and pierce brosnan is so, well... "he's always so soave" as my oldest put it last night. watched the flick on my bed with both teenage boys snuggled about. in the nest with my kidlets, like old times. tres fab...

[DancePoet]

Ayuh, that was one heck of a dress. :raisebro:

[fascination]

doooooooooooooooooooooo tell

[samina]

there were many steamy moments in that film. aye-aye-aye...

[Genesius Redux]

Max (with John Cusack and Noah Taylor, reviewed on my MySpace blog) and The Quiet American (Michael Caine and Brendan Fraser).

[little_mouse]

Watched Hotel Rwanda over the weekend. Went through alot of kleenix.

[Dancebug]

Watched Hotel Rwanda over the weekend. Went through alot of kleenix.
I went to bathroom couple times. I do not like anybody including my DH seeing me crying during movies.

[mamboqueen]

That, too, was an incredible movie. Highly recommend it.

[samina]

Oooh! Really liked that film. And don't mind the first one either. :cool:

never saw the first thomas crown affair, but someone mentioned it last week (which is why i pulled the new one out). will have to look it up...

do you recall who's in it, DP?

[Terpsichorean Clod]

I watched Avenue Montaigne last night. Haven't wanted to go to Paris this badly since watching Amelie.

[samina]

i loved amelie... what kind of flick is avenue montaigne?

[Terpsichorean Clod]

i loved amelie... what kind of flick is avenue montaigne?
If you enjoyed Amelie, I think you might enjoy this one, too. This, too, features a somewhat impish young lady who impacts the lives of those around her (including a world-famous classical pianist and a Hollywood director), albeit unintentionally.

LA Times review (http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/reviews/cl-et-avenue2mar02,0,2150148.story)

[DWise1]

never saw the first thomas crown affair, but someone mentioned it last week (which is why i pulled the new one out). will have to look it up...

do you recall who's in it, DP?

Steve McQueen and Faye Dunnaway. She plays a helluva game of chess.

[DancePoet]

never saw the first thomas crown affair, but someone mentioned it last week (which is why i pulled the new one out). will have to look it up...

do you recall who's in it, DP?
Ayuh, Steve McQueen and Faye Dunaway, and she was hot! :D

[Dancebug]

Ok, now I would like to pick some brains here. I watched this movie on TV a long long time ago. Actually I watched only bits and pieces of it for some reason but I remember the cinematography was beautiful. The story line was like this. There is a married woman who thinks she is losing her memory. I remember one scene that she brings a nice umbrella home that she just bought, opens her closet and begins to cry…because there was an exactly same umbrella in the closet. She bought the umbrella because she forgot she already bought a same umbrella. It turns out that her husband and their neighbor who was having an affair with him set up all these to make her believe she is having mental problem and eventually to get rid of her.

I think the location was Paris, and it was almost always foggy. And I would like to say Faye Dunaway played the wife. Does anybody know the title of this movie? I would like to watch it from the beginning to the end, but I cannot because I do not know the title of the movie. Help!

[samina]

Steve McQueen and Faye Dunnaway. She plays a helluva game of chess.

oooo.... niiiiice.

ah, so that means faye's cameo as pierce brosnan's shrink is a salute to the original film. cool. will definitely check it out.

[Peaches]

When do you people have time to watch movies and tv??? Especially since you al practice, and dance way more than I do.

When? I just don't get it...

[samina]

i go thru phases... i may not watch anything for months on end, and then get into a jag where i like settling in to watch something late at night -- might be after practice or lesson, or just a night off to recoup.

have been in late-winter movie jag, but with the warm weather on the rise i know myself... am gonna become a dancing & practicing machine again & i'll forget all about passive entertainment.

[Genesius Redux]

Steve McQueen and Faye Dunnaway. She plays a helluva game of chess.

Speaking of relatively early Faye Dunaway with good leading men--check out 3 Days of the Condor. Seems a little naive these days, but it holds up well. Really strong supporting performances by Cliff Robertson and Max Von Sydow.

[Spitfire]

Joyeux Noel

Rented and watched this last Sunday.

About a Christmas truce between German, French and British soldiers during WWI who not only ceased fire, but emerged from their trenches and celebrated Christmas together. Perhaps this movie has its embellishments, but something like this really did happen.

[SPratt74]

I'm not a Daniel Steel fan, but I liked her movie, Jewels. It's two parts, but it's so interesting. And I liked how it had some history to it too, that was neat. ;)

[Genesius Redux]

I've finally been watching Babylon 5, which I never saw when it was on television. That show rocks!

[DWise1]

I've finally been watching Babylon 5, which I never saw when it was on television. That show rocks!

How far have you gotten? Far enough to start picking up on parallels with Lord of the Rings?

BTW, when JMS was developing the show and getting ready to produce it, he was on the on-line services promoting it; I came across him on CompuServe. The use of the term "lurker" on the show (for the transients who live much like homeless people on the lower levels of the station) was an acknowledgement to the CompuServe lurkers he was pitching to.

Also, he had envisioned it from the start as a five-year story. His stated reason was to invoke the "Star Trek" effect*. It was launched on the fledgling PTEN network which fizzled after a few years. The network that inherited them decided to cancel the show at the end of its fourth year, so they had to basically bring to conclusion as much as they could at that point, hence the episode, "Sleeping in Light", which takes place 20 years later. But then they were given their fifth year after all.

In the LA/OC area, it was carried on UPN 13. It was said that somebody high up in the company hated the show and didn't want to air it. Instead, they scheduled it for 5AM, so I put my VCR to work. Well, that entire late-night block from midnight to 6AM is sponsored by every sleazy enterprise imaginable yet still airable. The first episode to air was filled with all kinds of phone-sex ads. The next week, those ads were gone. I'm sure that a lot of people watched that show with their kids and so the station got a lot of complaints.

Check out the site, Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5, at http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html. Among the resources there is a list of episodes, each with a synopsis, analysis, and notes written by JMS. Do not read ahead of your viewing if you fear spoilers.

"Yes." (Kosh)

*The Star Trek effect.
I witnessed that, too. During the second season of the original show, it was announced that the show had been cancelled. This triggered a massive letter campaign from fans that caused the network to relent and renewed it for its third and final season -- increased network "help" (read "micromanaging interference") is blamed for the poorer quality of the shows.

Star Trek was immediately picked up for syndication, which is where its fan base grew immensely (I wanted to say "exponentially", but don't have the stats to back it up), until the studio saw that it would be feasible and profitable to make the Star Trek movies. Which led to a new show, TNG. Which led to more shows and more movies as the franchise grew and ended up lasting for 40 years (BTW, read wikipedia for info on a new movie, Star Trek 11, so news of the franchise's demise are premature).

On CompuServe, JMS often invoked this history of Star Trek as his reason for going for a five-year story. The Star Trek franchise grew in syndication and it had made it into syndication because it had run for three seasons. If it had only run for two seasons, then that would be too few episodes for syndication; you don't want a syndicated show run daily to start repeating episodes too soon. A show needs at least three seasons for it to have enough episodes for it to be syndicated.

So he wanted to shoot for five seasons, hoping that gave him a better chance to have at least three seasons so that Babylon 5 could live on and grow its fan base in the next life of syndication. Hmm. Didn't quite work out as he had planned, did it?

Sig Line I found: "Guns don't kill people. Class 2 phasers do."


BTW, I've heard that "Heroes" also has a five-year story line laid out for it.


PS
Have you noticed the role that religion plays in the show? And the very thoughtful and largely positive treatment it receives?

JMS is an atheist.

[DWise1]

Also, Gen, does your collection include the movies (made for TV)?

Definitely watch "The Gathering" first, since that was the two-hour pilot film.

You might want to wait on "In the Beginning" until you've seen the first three seasons, possibly most of the way through season four. It's a pre-quel which depicts many scenes that are mentioned during the series, such as Sheridan's destroying the Minbari ship during the Earth-Minbar war. The episode list on Lurker's Guide may give an indication of when it aired in relationship to the episodes.

[Genesius Redux]

How far have you gotten? Far enough to start picking up on parallels with Lord of the Rings?

Specific parallels? Not yet. I'm at the end of the second season.

Also, he had envisioned it from the start as a five-year story. His stated reason was to invoke the "Star Trek" effect*. It was launched on the fledgling PTEN network which fizzled after a few years. The network that inherited them decided to cancel the show at the end of its fourth year, so they had to basically bring to conclusion as much as they could at that point, hence the episode, "Sleeping in Light", which takes place 20 years later. But then they were given their fifth year after all.

Ah, so we do get to see the showdown between G'Kar and Londo....

*The Star Trek effect.
I witnessed that, too. During the second season of the original show, it was announced that the show had been cancelled. This triggered a massive letter campaign from fans that caused the network to relent and renewed it for its third and final season -- increased network "help" (read "micromanaging interference") is blamed for the poorer quality of the shows.

Star Trek was immediately picked up for syndication, which is where its fan base grew immensely (I wanted to say "exponentially", but don't have the stats to back it up), until the studio saw that it would be feasible and profitable to make the Star Trek movies. Which led to a new show, TNG. Which led to more shows and more movies as the franchise grew and ended up lasting for 40 years (BTW, read wikipedia for info on a new movie, Star Trek 11, so news of the franchise's demise are premature).

I'm fond of the original series, and a number of the movies with the original cast. I used to watch Next Gen religiously, but it seemed to me to be already heading in the direction of corporate glitz. Well-acted, well-directed, well-written, I never really developed a love for those characters.

Have you noticed the role that religion plays in the show? And the very thoughtful and largely positive treatment it receives?

JMS is an atheist.

Yeah, I have. IMO, if "religion" is a way of contemplating the unknowable mysteries of the universe and coming to an understanding of our own ways of perceiving them and our own existence, there's no such thing as a true atheist. It seems to me like the implicit religion of the series has a decidedly Taoist or neo-Hindi slant to it. I thought the idea of the doctor's religion (I think he called himself a "foundationist" was a cool idea, and pretty close to the "religion" implied by a lot of Physicists when they get mystical.

The "mystical" or "spiritual" side of the human psyche, I think of as that part of us which delves into mysteries, uncertainties, inconsistencies. As we continue to advance theories to explain them, the mystical frontier continues to expand, so even with advances in modes of scientific understanding, we never lose that "mystical" side.

And there is always that element that extends beyond the known universe that we cannot, by definition given our current technology, comprehend. If the known universe is comprised of that which we can perceive, that part of the universe that will always lie outside our perception is in the realm of the mystical. Even if we eventually become one with all of creation, perceive the whole as a whole, the question will still be--as in many Indian creation stories--what lies outside the self. And new universes will be brought into being to answer the question of solitude.

[Genesius Redux]

Also, Gen, does your collection include the movies (made for TV)?

Definitely watch "The Gathering" first, since that was the two-hour pilot film.

You might want to wait on "In the Beginning" until you've seen the first three seasons, possibly most of the way through season four. It's a pre-quel which depicts many scenes that are mentioned during the series, such as Sheridan's destroying the Minbari ship during the Earth-Minbar war. The episode list on Lurker's Guide may give an indication of when it aired in relationship to the episodes.

Thanks for the heads-up. I never saw the pilot, but I'm caught up enough to know what happened there. I'm only through the second season.

[DWise1]

Thanks for the heads-up. I never saw the pilot, but I'm caught up enough to know what happened there. I'm only through the second season.

You will need to see it, since it features the first station telepath who had to leave due to the events. She returns later and events surrounding her tie back to the pilot.

Important character.


One of the early LOTR references was when one character warns another to watch the shadows, they move when you're not looking.

And I forget when Marcus is introduced, but his comment was taken from the first meeting between Frodo and Strider.


BTW, we all loved Ivanova's character.

Wasn't that a great practical joke Sinclair and Garibaldi played on her? Making her think that she had slept through breakfast and was late for duty.
There was a Russian B5 fan site and, needless to say, a poster picture of Ivanova was prominently displayed.

[tanya_the_dancer]

Took my son to Shrek 3 today. Not as good as the first one, but still quite funny. I think they covered all fairy-tale territory by now.

[Twilight_Elena]

Just watched The Godfather I and II (can you tell it's been a slow Sunday?). Had never watched it before. Good LORD. Amazing cast. One heck of a plotline. Coppola directing. Do I need more reason to be wowed? I would watch III right now if it weren't for the fact that I'm working tomorrow and it's a 3-hour movie.

T_E

[Joe]

III isn't quite as good, mostly because Sofia Coppola can't act for beans.

[tj]

Saw Spiderman 3 last week with 2 friends. It was the first time in ages where all three of us liked a movie.

[Dave Bailey]

Saw Spiderman 3 last week with 2 friends. It was the first time in ages where all three of us liked a movie.
I wasn't that impressed - too long, too many villains. Still a good film, but not as good as I or II.

Yes, Sandman was great, but he didn't really add anything to the plot except as yet another villain with CGI effects. GG and Venom would have been enough I think.

[tj]

I wasn't that impressed - too long, too many villains. Still a good film, but not as good as I or II.

Yes, Sandman was great, but he didn't really add anything to the plot except as yet another villain with CGI effects. GG and Venom would have been enough I think.
Yeah, I wouldn't call it an all-time great movie or anything, but certainly an entertaining movie. I also liked how they tied in several of PP's other love interests from the comic books w/o diminishing his relationship with MJ.

[Twilight_Elena]

III isn't quite as good, mostly because Sofia Coppola can't act for beans.

Watched III today. Agreed about Sofia, though I didn't really mind her; I had all my focus on Pacino. For some reason, I liked him better in II. *shrug* Maybe it's just me. Oh, II was so good. I am torn between I and II for best Godfather part. *rant*
Both Brando and DeNiro made for an incredible Vito. Holy hockey sticks! Now we're talking about acting! They both did the same accent as well. I was very impressed.
Off to read The Silmarillion! (Admittedly, I jump from one cultural giant to the other, but I was inspired by a heated argument I had with my mother about how Tolkien created an incredible new world.) At some point tomorrow I'll watch A Streetcar Named Desire and On The Waterfront, because lately I'm doing a "back to the classics" kind of movie marathon. Brando just had to be part of it. Watched "Breakfast at Tiffany's" and "Sabrina" last week. It was Audrey Hepburn week. Not at all complete with just two movies, but I have a whole summer to make up for it.
At some point, I want to watch "A Clockwork Orange".

T_E

[Peaches]

Ooooh, A Clockwork Orange.

You'll never think of milk the same way.

[samina]

was eying that one on our shelf yesterday... wondering if i have the fortitude for something that dark right now...mmm, probly not

watched girl with a pearl earring last night. enjoyed it better than the first time...

[Twilight_Elena]

Ooooh, A Clockwork Orange.

You'll never think of milk the same way.

Uh... okay. I'm guessing it's a "leave the gun, take the cannoli" kind of reference. You gotta see it to understand.

T_E

[Peaches]

Didn't care for the movie. (Although I'd watch it again just for Colin Firth.) The book was good, though.

[Peaches]

Uh... okay. I'm guessing it's a "leave the gun, take the cannoli" kind of reference. You gotta see it to understand.

T_E
Given that you're quote is completely lost on me, I'd say yes.

You'll never think of Beethoven as Beethoven anymore, either.

[DancinAnne]

Ooooh, A Clockwork Orange.

You'll never think of milk the same way.

Ain't it the truth... funny thing, DH and I were just talking about that movie this weekend, and in so many words, I told him the same thing. I've seen it, he hasn't.

[samina]

Didn't care for the movie. (Although I'd watch it again just for Colin Firth.) The book was good, though.

i felt the same way after the first viewing.

i wonder why it happens that i like something later on which i did not like the first go-round. maybe just the frame of mind i was in at the time?

i'd recently read the book, which i really liked. maybe it was just that it couldn't compare when the story was so fresh in my mind at the time.

[Twilight_Elena]

watched girl with a pearl earring last night. enjoyed it better than the first time...

Agree. I liked that movie a lot. Very interesting directing. And Colin Firth. Yum.

T_E

[Peaches]

I think I just really loved the book, and didn't feel it could compare.

(Completely OT, but oh well...if you liked "Girl With a Pearl Earring", try "Girl in Hyacinth (sp?) Blue.")

[samina]

you liked that one, yourself? never heard of it.

[DancinAnne]

Blood Diamond - loved it
Mystery Men - loved it
The Man Who Would Be King - an older flick (1975), but worth the watch, IMO

[Peaches]

you liked that one, yourself? never heard of it.
Light reading, but interesting storytelling.

[Peaches]

Er...bot...no new, good movies seen recently. Want to see Shrek 3...want to see Pirates 3.

[Twilight_Elena]

Didn't care for the movie. (Although I'd watch it again just for Colin Firth.)

I am not surprised that we both like Colin Firth. Really not surprised, my dear twin.
That reminds me. Has anyone seen the Jane Eyre BBC production? I've seen a couple of Jane Eyre films and I think I like the BBC production most.

T_E

[Peaches]

Doesn't surprise me, either.

Haven't seen Jane Eyre. Own BBC's Pride and Prejudice, though.

[samina]

i saw jane eyre... some time ago... i think it was the BBC version... liked it.

liked the book better, but that's usually the case, ay? :D

[Peaches]

If that's the case with J.E., too, then I'm staying the hell away from the movie.

[samina]

yah, but i could be wrong... if the BBC production of J.E. was different as as good as pride & prejudice... so worth seeing, y'know?

[Twilight_Elena]

I don't think it's as good as the P&P BBC production. THAT one was a keeper. (I own it too.) But it was still good. J.E. and Rochester are played by fitting actors, I think, and because it's a mini series instead of just a couple of hours in a movie, they can expand on the dialogue and scenery, which is always good.

[Joe]

Ooooh, A Clockwork Orange.

You'll never think of milk the same way.
Try...the wine.

[Peaches]

Don't remember that bit.

Huh. It's been years since I've seen that movie. I should watch it again.

[samina]

peach, i tried to find that hyacinth movie at imdb.com... no luck... you sure that's the title?

[Peaches]

Sorry, my bad.

I don't think it's been made into a movie. I was commenting on the book. And, yes, that's the title.

Moo moo.

[samina]

ahhhh... actually, even better. in mood for a good read right now...

[Beto]

Thanks for the heads-up. I never saw the pilot, but I'm caught up enough to know what happened there. I'm only through the second season.
Well when you're all caught up, the new direct-to-DVD movie is coming out at the end of next month.

http://babylon5.warnerbros.com/

[bordertangoman]

Well when you're all caught up, the new direct-to-DVD movie is coming out at the end of next month.

http://babylon5.warnerbros.com/

whoopie!!:smile:

actually, even better. in mood for a good read right now...]

hj: have you read the time traveller's wife? or the book of lost things.
latter I enjoyed, former bored after six pages.

[mamboqueen]

Have seen: Spidey 3, Shrek 3 and Pirates 3, and thought Shrek was the best. Very disappointed (sad to say) with Pirates.

[Twilight_Elena]

Liked Pirates but definitely not as much as last Pirates. Just saw Casino Royale. A real flesh and bones Bond. Liked it a lot.

[SlowDancer]

Saw "Shrek 3" and "Fracture" last weekend. Loved "Fracture"..."Shrek 3" was OK, but there were so many little noisy young'uns in the theatre, hubby and I could barely hear the dialogue.

Oh that's right, it IS a kids' movie, after all!

[Beto]

Have seen: Spidey 3, Shrek 3 and Pirates 3, and thought Shrek was the best. Very disappointed (sad to say) with Pirates.
Saw Shrek 3 last night with my gf. She really loved it and I really liked it. Thought it was cute and thankfully there weren't too many screaming kids in the theatre so I was able to hear all of the dialogue. Spider-Man 3 we saw on the 21st and despite all of the bad reviews, I went in with -zero- expectations and was pleasantly surprised. Some things didn't work for me in the film (the butler being introduced? waaaay too tidy to resolve things) and others were okay but overall, I liked it.

Still have to see Pirates 3 and Hot Fuzz.

[tj]

Saw 28 Weeks Later tonight, and I liked it. I'd only recommend it if you're a zombie movie fan, though.

Will probably go see Knocked Up on Thursday. Heard it was pretty good.

[SPratt74]

I saw Because I Said So last night, and Music and Lyrics tonight. I loved them both, but they were definitely chick flicks lol! I would buy them though. Hugh Grant is sexy. I could watch him forever! And the two guys in Because I Said So that played the main characters were cute too. Not as gorgeous as Hugh though lol! ;)

[Joe]

Saw 28 Weeks Later tonight, and I liked it. I'd only recommend it if you're a zombie movie fan, though.

Couple of friends saw that and said it was scary. They're into zombie movies too.

[samina]

i think we have that one on our shelf at home... kids.:rolleyes:

[Sabor]

haven't seen any .. not since i was banned from watching x-rated movies..

[MeGustaReggaeton]

Pirates of the Carribbean III:) Liked that A LOT! Although the first 2 parts were better in the story line, the 3rd part has it's own place in the moving-making history:)

[Terpsichorean Clod]

Kinda went on a movie/dvd binge over the last two weeks:
Bunty aur Babli
Kal Ho Naa Ho
Bug
Maxed Out
Disturbia
28 Weeks Later

[tj]

Saw Knocked Up last night. Cute movie.

[basicarita]

Looking forward to "Oceans' Thirteen" this weekend since I generally dig Soderbergh, "11" was great, and I'm hoping the crew will redeem themselves from "12".

Also looking forward, in a weird way, to Ellen Barkin making me feel bad in a "this is why you have to go to the gym EVERY day instead of just when you feel like it since she is a generation older than you" kind of way.

Also would watch Mr. Garcia and Mr. Clooney on-screen if they did nothing more than read the phone book.
:cool::grin::cool:

[tj]

Let us know if you liked it or not. I'm likely going to go see 13, too.

[mamboqueen]

Also would watch Mr. Garcia and Mr. Clooney on-screen if they did nothing more than read the phone book.
:cool::grin::cool:

You picked my two faves of the batch :). Good taste, chica!

[DancingJew]

My mom saw Knocked Up, and she was in a giggling fit when I saw her again. She said it was 40 year old Virgin humor, and it was hysterical. Kinda slow at times, but enough hysterics to keep you laughing for along time.

I just saw Surf's Up with my gf (Was going to see Ocean's 13, but then we realized it was a sequal and we thought I wouldn't get it since I never saw a Ocean's movie). Annoying kids in the theater of course, but the movie was really good. Basically everything you expect out of an animated film. Nice Protagoinist with dream, doesn't do so good first time, finds mentor, etc. However, the plot was very engaging and it seemed fresh and new. Plus, the graphics and art they used for the movie blew me away.

[samina]

saw ocean's 13 last night. enjoyed it. similar vibe as the first two, but more level in tone... worth seeing IMO if you're a fan of the series.

[tj]

My mom saw Knocked Up, and she was in a giggling fit when I saw her again. She said it was 40 year old Virgin humor, and it was hysterical. Kinda slow at times, but enough hysterics to keep you laughing for along time.

Yeah, that sounds about right - certainly about the similarities to parts of the 40 year Old Virgin (Steve Correll even makes a surprise cameo). Just so you don't get overblown expectations, it'll make you chuckle, but kinda doubt it'll have you rolling in the aisles.

[tangotime]

Hope these havent been posted-- Just saw Shop girl ( bit of a rom/com ) but very funny in parts . Also, Keeping Mum-- an english black comedy-- both worth renting or cable .

[samina]

was not one to appreciate the 40-yr-old virgin, for the most part... guess i'll stay away from knocked up... which was my take to begin with...:rolleyes:

[tanya_the_dancer]

Little Miss Sunshine is worth renting.

[basicarita]

Didn't the same guy who wrote the script for "40-YO-Virgin" also write "Knocked Up"? Or star in it? Or something? (Clearly, I haven't been paying that much attention ...)

Totally with tanya_the_dancer. "Little Miss Sunshine" is one for the Netflix queue.

tj, you asked about "Ocean's 13." Cute. Frothy. Gorgeously photographed. Lots of plot (not everyone likes that). IMO, a return to form for Stephen. Good way for the crew to go out (I think an Ocean's 14 would be quite anticlimactic). A friend who is one of the RT reviewers wrote a nice review for it here:

http://www.flickfilosopher.com/blog/2007/06/oceans_thirteen_review.html

[Beto]

Paris, je t'aime

My gf and I saw this last night (totally unplanned as we were just walking by the theatre) and really liked it. It's different, hard to explain and definitely a film worth seeing if you don't mind 18 different stories set in Paris. http://www.salserosweb.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif http://www.salserosweb.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/thumbsup.gif

Official website and trailer:

http://www.firstlookstudios.com/pjt/
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[waltzgirl]

Rented the Astaire/Rogers film "Swing Time." Great dance numbers!

(Warning: Astaire does a blackface number. Large cringe factor, but as such things go, it's not a parody, rather an homage to the then-popular tappers Bill Robinson and John Bubbles.)

[tj]

Saw Ocean's 13 last night. I liked it - probably less than 11, but more than 12. (ty to basicarita & samina for their thoughts about it) I thought the CGI for the hotel in the middle of the strip was quite well done.

[spectator]

Has anyone seen the new french film about Tango? Is it any good?

[DancePoet]

Saw Ocean's 13 last night. I liked it - probably less than 11, but more than 12. (ty to basicarita & samina for their thoughts about it) I thought the CGI for the hotel in the middle of the strip was quite well done.
Yes! Ocean's 13 was very good! Perhaps the best of the three, yet I haven't seen the first in awhile.

[DancePoet]

Has anyone seen the new french film about Tango? Is it any good?

What is the film's name :?:

[spectator]

er... i can't remember... i saw a review in London Lite...

[Dave Bailey]

er... i can't remember... i saw a review in London Lite...
"Not Here To Be Loved" - it's a French film. Pretty standard plot:

"French bailiff Jean-Claude has lost the will to live, trapped in a thankless job which he inherited from his brusque father, who is the scourge of the local care home. Determined to energise his humdrum existence, Jean-Claude signs up for tango lessons, where he meets soon-to-be-wed Francoise. The two lost souls develop a tender and lasting bond as they glide gracefully across the dance-floor."
Etc. Blah blah blah...

Can't tell if it's ballroom tango or AT - the photos look like AT, but you never know. It's only on at a couple of places in London I think.

[spectator]

some one should be sent to see it to verify it...

[Peaches]

Started re-watching "Pulp Fiction" last night. It's been ages since I've seen it--10 years at least.

I'd forgotten what a good soundtrack it has, how utterly screwed it really is, and how good it is. I might have to put that on my xmas wish list...

[tj]

Pulp Fiction was the first movie that I remember seeing the time chronology get spun around like it was. Thought it was a nice twist.

Saw Fantasic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer tonight. It was good (and typical for a Marvel Comics/Stan Lee movie). As long as you know what you'll typically get from these types of movies, it should meet your expectations, I think.

[Terpsichorean Clod]

I watched Paprika last week (very good) and Private Fears in Public Places (also very good). I thought Private Fears had some similarity to Michael Haneke's Cache.

[DancePoet]

"Not Here To Be Loved" - it's a French film.

...

Can't tell if it's ballroom tango or AT - the photos look like AT, but you never know. It's only on at a couple of places in London I think.
Does anyone know if it is planning to be shown in the U.S. :?:

[DancePoet]

some one should be sent to see it to verify it...
Oooh! Good idea, and I'm volunteering to make the trip. :D

So ... I am announcing my fundraising drive called, "Send DP to Preview the New Tango Film in London". :cool:

[DancePoet]

Started re-watching "Pulp Fiction" last night. It's been ages since I've seen it--10 years at least.

I'd forgotten what a good soundtrack it has, how utterly screwed it really is, and how good it is. I might have to put that on my xmas wish list...
Ayuh, need to rewatch it myself.

[jfm]

Oooh! Good idea, and I'm volunteering to make the trip.


it's more doable than you probably think!

unless you are mike tyson or Snoop Dogg.

[DancePoet]

The SO and I like the shoes in your avatar picture. Where did you get them?

[jfm]

darcos ebay... but actally what size are you?
mine are a bit too big and was thinking of selling them on...

[DancePoet]

darcos ebay... but actally what size are you?
mine are a bit too big and was thinking of selling them on...
The SO is typically a U.S. size 8, sometimes 7 1/2. Feel free to pm us with details.

[jfm]

you are best off buying new from ebay, right now you can get them for $50!!!!

[mamboqueen]

Cannot wait to see Hairspray:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=463595&in_page_id=1773

[Terpsichorean Clod]

Just watched Private Fears in Public Places. Absolument fantastique!

[samina]

saw the original MASH movie this week. liked it... clearly very breakthrough for 1970.

also saw skeleton key recently, with kate hudson. "supernatural thriller". was quite surprised that i liked it so much. really liked the completely unexpected surprise ending!

[Terpsichorean Clod]

Just watched Daywatch. Really enjoyed it and will probably go rewatch Nightwatch.

[Spitfire]

The Lifetime channel's original movies; those are pretty good, watch them a lot.

[Dancebug]

"Volver," another Almodovar's movie.
Cruz was too pretty to play that role. But I cannot say her acting was bad.

[mamboqueen]

Ratatouille - cute!

[BM]

Ratatouille - cute!

That's two good reviews I've heard . . . now I REALLY want to see it.

[Beto]

I may be the only DFer to rave about this (hoping I'm wrong, though) but I saw "Transformers" last night and, oh my god, it did not disappoint! Will probably be seeing this again at least 1 or 2 more times! :D

[tanya_the_dancer]

I may be the only DFer to rave about this (hoping I'm wrong, though) but I saw "Transformers" last night and, oh my god, it did not disappoint! Will probably be seeing this again at least 1 or 2 more times! :D

My son wanted to see it, so is the movie interesting or should I bring earplugs and take a nap?

[Joe]

Transformers was FREAKING AWESOME!!!

[SlowDancer]

Saw "Waitress" today. It was a very sweet, entertaining movie.

[tj]

Glad to see that you guys liked Transformers! Will likely see it next week.

[Beto]

My son wanted to see it, so is the movie interesting or should I bring earplugs and take a nap?
I think it's interesting. It moves along quickly, unlike Pirates 3 and Spider-Man 3, and so it will hold your attention. Also, I have to say, that this is a film that MUST be seen on the big screen.

[Joe]

It can be hard to tell the transformers from each other, aside from Optimus and Bumblebee, when they are in robot form, though.

[Beto]

Noticed that myself. Luckily I've been familiar with the robot designs for months since I've been tracking this film for the past 2 years to the point of obsession. :D

[Masaya]

Transformers was FREAKING AWESOME!!!

I loved transformers too. Oh, and Megan Fox . . . that scene where she has him open the hood and leans over the car? Hmmmmmm

[Joe]

Yeah whatta fox. ;)

[tj]

Finally saw Transformers last night. Best movie I've seen this year!

[Terpsichorean Clod]

Just finished rewatching (3rd time) Pride and Prejudice (2005) with the American ending. I love the soundtrack and cinematography, but I don't like the way scenes and dialogue were changed to make it...well...more like a movie, especially the ending (Ick!). I'm thinking I really need to rewatch the 1995 BBC version to wash out the taste. I'm also reminded that it's been a while since I last went English country dancing... :bouncy:

[mamboqueen]

Has anyone seen Hairspray yet? I'm hoping to go this week.

[tanya_the_dancer]

I've watched 3 movies on the airplaine yesterday: Music and Lyrics, Breach and Miss Potter. All 3 would make quite good rentals.

[reb]

I've watched 3 movies on the airplaine yesterday: Music and Lyrics, Breach and Miss Potter. All 3 would make quite good rentals.
Good way to spend a flight to Europe!

[tanya_the_dancer]

Good way to spend a flight to Europe!

That was coming back. It's easier to sleep going there, since the flight leaves in the evening and flies through the night. Since most flights from Europe leave in the morning and get here in the afternoon, somehow it's harder to fall asleep.

[SPratt74]

I watched Man Of The Year tonight, and loved it! Watched High School Musical last night, and didn't care for it.