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DanceMentor
10-22-2003, 09:24 AM
REPOST (courtesy of Dance Notes (http://www.dancenotes.com))
Barbara Moore… Not Just Another Pretty Face

Imagine opening the pages of Playboy and seeing your favorite ballroom dancer. Barbara Moore went from a quiet childhood, where she wasn’t even allowed to dance, to being a model, actress and successful Dancesport competitor. And yes, she was even a Playboy Playmate! Barbara’s agent, Kurt Clements, is probably someone who knows her best. “Her energy is about direction and when she sets her mind to achieve, she’s really an achiever,” says Kurt. “She’s very focused, that’s why she’s been able to conquer so much at such a young age. Her achievements really follow her. I’m very honored to represent her.”

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Barbara sat down and talked with Dance Notes when she was finished competing at the Emerald Ball in May of 2002. She already has achieved the prestigious title of Top Overall Pro/Am Female of the United States, which she was awarded after her first year of dancing in 1999. She seems to be successful at whatever she attempts. This beauty also has brains. Clearly where there’s a will, there’s a way.

What styles do you dance?

I dance International Latin, American Smooth and International Standard. So that’s 14 dances that I have to practice.

Have you always done all three styles?

No. When I first started dancing I just did rhythm, in three dances - mambo, cha cha and rumba. That just led to more and more and more. I did American rhythm and smooth for about nine months, competitively. When I changed instructors, I added Latin and I’ve been doing standard for about a year now.

Which style do you like the best?

I am very torn between the smooth and the Latin, because I love moving in the Latin, but I also love the graceful feeling of the smooth dances. When you’re doing Latin you feel your sexual side is coming out, your flirty side. And also your more athletic, aggressive side comes out. With the smooth dances you feel like a princess. You feel elegant. It’s just so different. And that’s my personality; I think I have two totally different sides to me. I could never give up one style. Some people are drawn to one style, so it’s an easy decision for them. I would always have to be a ten dancer. Right now, I’m training and learning in all three. A ten dancer would be Latin and standard, but I’m doing American smooth because I want to learn the free flowing extra that you need when you’re doing solos and things like that

Have you found that one style is harder for you?

Oh definitely! Standard is definitely harder for me and what comes naturally is Latin. Even if I don’t practice I can still do my Latin, but it’s a different story with my standard and smooth. It’s something I really have to work on.

How did you become involved in ballroom dancing?

I always wanted to be a dancer. When I was eight years old my mother married a man who thought that dancing was a sin, so I grew up in a household where dancing was a sin. But the ironic thing about it was that, deep down in my heart, that’s all I ever wanted to do. When they would leave the house, I would turn the stereo on… and we only had Christian music, but I didn’t care, whatever music we had I would dance to. I didn’t even know what I was dancing; I was just copying what I had seen on television and in the movies. So all my life I was picturing myself dancing to whatever song came on. I didn’t start taking lessons until three years ago. The first time I stepped into a studio was like the highlight of my career, because I finally said, “Okay, I’m going to do it.” And I was a little bit afraid. I was so insecure about stepping into a dance studio, because I was so afraid to fail. But the minute I stepped in there and started, BAM! Three months later I was on the competition floor. I danced my first competition with an instructor named Jorge, and he was really great. But he moved away, so then I saw Richard Croteau, and I just had to have him… just the way he dances, he’s so emotional. He got me into Latin, American smooth and rhythm. In the first nine months with Richard, I danced eighteen competitions, and I won the United States Top Overall Female award. After doing 18 competitions in nine months I realized that was too much. I thought it was normal and then I realized real fast, it’s not! People don’t do that, right?! Around that time I switched to Donald Johnson.

Why did you switch?

Because I wanted to be better in Latin and he was such a champion in Latin. I mainly chose him for that reason. He also had studied and danced professionally in all three styles that I dance. A lot of people don’t know that because Donald is so well known as a Latin champion. It’s hard to find a teacher who can do all three styles and has danced competitively in all three. I found him, and I’m very happy with him. I’ve danced with Donald for two and a half years. I started out as a newcomer and at last year’s Ohio Star Ball, I entered my first open championship. That was another highlight. It was American smooth and I made the final. I was really happy about that. Now I’m dancing open in all three styles. In just three and half years for me to go from newcomer bronze to open status in all three levels… I’m pretty happy with the big picture!

You talked about realizing that you had done too many competitions in nine months. Was that physically or mentally?

Physically and mentally it was too much. My feet… I was doing way over a hundred entries a day. Then I would just go up to my room and I would be emotionally drained and exhausted. Emotionally, it was just too much, the adrenalin pumps a lot and I would get really high, and then I would crash. But I’ve learned to deal with that. After comps I don’t crash as much. That’s very normal with dancers. I’ve asked a lot of dancers and they’ve said they go through that too. Now, I go to one competition a month. I might even skip a month here and there and just study.

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How many lessons do you take?

I take three lessons a day five days a week.

Do you watch your videos?

I watch my videos all the time. I see a lot of improvement each time, even though I don’t feel it. I also learn from the videos. Videos are a really good learning tool. Expensive learning tool, but isn’t everything expensive in dancing?!

Do you practice on your own too?

I do. Sometimes after class I’ll practice. I’ve got to get better at that. Donald says that sometimes I’m good at practicing by myself and sometimes I’m not. It depends on what’s going on in my life, too. I’m busy. I do other projects, and I run my own business. There’s a lot that goes into the preparation to come to a competition and there’s a lot of effort putting it all together, but when you get on the floor and you feel like you danced well, it makes it worth it. Especially since it’s been a dream of mine since childhood. I know there are a lot of people out there who have danced all their lives and maybe they don’t appreciate it as much as I do now. Maybe it was a blessing that I was not allowed to dance when I was young, because now I appreciate it so much. The dream is finally becoming a reality.

What does your mother think of your dancing?

My mother loves it. It was just the stepfather, who is no longer in the picture. There are no problems. But it wouldn’t matter. When I left the house, I could have done whatever I wanted. I didn’t go straight to a dance studio, because I had to go work. I’ve just come into this situation; I’ve worked so hard and so long, and invested my money wisely. Now I can finally do what I’ve always really, really wanted to do, which is dance.

You’ve modeled and acted. What are you most known for?

I had a part in Austin Powers as a fembot. We were in sheer pink outfits with feathers. I’ve been on Married With Children, and I’ve starred on Baywatch a few times with David Hasselhoff. I’ve also worked with a lot of celebrities in print jobs. And I’ve done a lot of music videos... Aerosmith, Rolling Stones. I lived in Nashville, Tennessee for a while, so I worked with every country music star, doing their videos and a lot of print advertisement. When I started dancing, I stopped modeling and acting for a couple years, but now I’m getting back into it. I really truly believe that if you want to be really good at something, you have to put all of your energy and focus into that. I did with my dancing, and now I know exactly what I need to put into it to get better and to grow. So I know what time I can allot for my other interests, like my castings, and my modeling. A year and a half ago I started my own business and I have my own website. It’s a membership site. I charge $14.95 a month for my fans to join. I write a diary, and I post 30 brand new pictures of myself every week. I answer stories and questions that they have for me. So I’m constantly reading their e-mails and answering them.

What kinds of questions?

They have questions regarding relationship problems. I get questions from men and women. And they think that I know everything! I don’t know why! They think that I have all this experience because I was in Playboy. And I do have a following from being a Playmate.

What is the name of your site?

It’s called Barbarasplayhouse.com. When you go there, you’ll see pictures of me. I give you a free tour and tell you all about what’s in my site, and hopefully, you’ll join. There is also a store where I sell clothes that I’ve worn in photo shoots, my pictures, my videos and things like that. Someone will see me wearing something in the gallery, and they’ll give me an offer for it. I can sell a bikini or something for up to $500.00. It’s quite interesting what people want!

How many people are members?

I have about a thousand members now.

Are you still a Playmate?

I do work for Playboy. Right now I go there once a week and I answer e-mails and sign autographs for the servicemen, the military men. It helps morale. Hugh Hefner’s always been into that… to help the troops and the military. I have a brother who’s a Marine, so I think it’s very important. I go over there and do charity work for them. From time to time, I do photo shoots. I did a shoot with Mini-Me for the Millennium Issue. He was in Austin Powers too. I’ve done pictorials with Phil Hartman and Leslie Nielson. They still use me for things like that, and anything special that they do, like the special Valentine’s issue. I always go up to the mansion for the parties that they have. So I’m usually in the Playmate News. They’ve done a little article about my dancing. They care. They care about it a lot. I’ve been able to travel the world with Playboy. I’ve been to Moscow, Taipei, Tokyo, Cannes, Rio de Janeiro and Santiago, Chile... places that I probably never would have picked for vacations, but it’s really great to see these places. I’ve worked with them for a long time.

When did you start modeling?

When I was 19. I graduated from high school when I was 17, and I had to get a job. I applied to 100 airlines and American Eagle hired me. They based me in Nashville, Tennessee. I didn’t know one person in the south. I completely uprooted myself and moved to a new city with no car, no money, and this new job. And it was a really good thing for me to do. I had this uniform, and I felt so much pride. I had my own airplane and I had all these passengers and I was completely in charge of their safety and their protection. It matured me very quickly. My passengers would say, “Why are you doing this? Why aren’t you a model?” So after a year, I quit and started modeling. That’s when I did all the country music videos. The market for modeling is not very good in Nashville, so that’s why I made the phone call to Playboy Enterprises. I said, “How do I become a centerfold?” They said, “Send in pictures.” So I sent in pictures. The next week, I was flown to Beverly Hills and stayed at the Playboy mansion. I went through the test shoot, and I flew back home. They called me and said, “We want you to be in a shoot for the centerfold.” It took a week to shoot the centerfold, and then Hugh Hefner decides whether to use it or not. He said, “yes.” I had to keep flying back and forth shooting for them, the promo shots, the video, this and that. Right after that I moved to L.A. I opened the door of my apartment in Nashville and I screamed out, “Thank God I am out of here!” Ever since my Dad took me to Disneyland when I was 11, I wanted to live in Beverly Hills. I moved to Beverly Hills and I have lived here ever since.

What did your dad think about you being a Playmate?

I knew he was going to love it, because he’s very open minded about that kind of thing. He’s a really cool dad. And he loved it! He said, “Alright, that’s so great! Congratulations!” So then I had to call my mother, “Okay mom, I’m testing for Playboy.” She started crying, and then, I said, “Mom, have you seen a Playboy lately?” She’s like, “No.” I said, “Mom, you go to the newsstand and you get one and you look at it and then you call me back.” I got all choked up, and I couldn’t talk. She called me back two days later and said, “It’s okay, it’s not the pictures, it’s very tasteful. I’m just worried about the lifestyle. I’ve heard about that Playboy mansion. I don’t want you to get into drugs and all that stuff.” I said, “Mom, I’ve been out of the house for eight years. I’m going to be okay.” When she came out to visit me, I took her right up to the mansion. She sat by Tony Curtis and met Hef and she saw the people were so nice, so normal and so supportive and behind me. She was happy that I actually was doing that. A girl going to L.A. and just trying to model can end up totally broke. But when you’re a Playmate, you’ve got a family behind you. And you’ve got money coming in and jobs. It’s just such a foot in the door. I feel so happy about that part of my life.

You’re really a celebrity. Did the people in the dance world realize that? Did they treat you any differently?

When I first started dancing, Dancesport Magazine did an interview with me about being a Playmate and being in movies and television shows. But I don’t think the dancers treat me differently. I think they’re fair. I think they’re surprised that I’m still here! A lot of people come and go real fast. I think the more I stick with it; the more they commend me for the dedication I put into it. And I am dedicated, because competing is the only thing that’s going to make me a good dancer. My goal is to be a really good dancer. You’re trying to win, so that means that you’re always practicing to get better so you can win. That’s your drive, your motivation. I’ve had many, many offers already to turn pro and do shows and things like that. But that’s not what I want to do. I want to learn good technique, and I want to focus on becoming a proper dancer, with proper techniques.

The reason you dance is to become better, not to compete?

To become the best dancer that I can be. I have goals. I would like to be a top pro/am girl. Of course, I would like that. It feels great to win! But it also feels good just to go out there and know that I nailed the material that I have right now. When I go out there, I don’t think, “Oh, I’ve got to beat this person, I’ve got to beat that person,” and worry about who’s out there on the floor. I don’t even think about that. I think about focusing on my partner, feeling the music, and working on what I know at that moment. If I think about anything else, it’s distracting. But I love that adrenalin rush and I can’t live without it!

Getting out on the floor, or winning?

What I feel right before I go out on the floor. That feeling! A lot of people don’t like it. When I first started competing, there was this girl at the studio. She was about the same level that I was, and she told me, “Competing is like… I might as well cut my body up with razor blades. That’s how awful it is for me. You’ll find out, Barbara. You’ll find out that it’s just awful.” Well, I found out that I love that feeling of adrenalin. I like that heart pounding. I like that pure adrenalin rush. I need it in my life.

You don’t feel that way with acting or modeling?

I do for acting, but not with modeling. Modeling really came naturally to me. On a couple occasions the photographer would bring a new girl over and say, “Okay, watch Barbara, see how she moves. Do that!” I would feel bad for the girl, and it was kind of embarrassing for me. It just always came really natural to me, so I never thought, “Oh, no, I‘m not going to be able to move. I’m not going to be able to do this. I don’t know what to do.” The modeling never gave me the adrenalin rush. What I liked about modeling was going on all the castings and beating out people and getting the job.

So you’re with Donald a lot, like two, three hours a day. Do you get along?

We get along...

Do you have your moments?

Donald is very much like me. He’s a perfectionist. And I need a perfectionist. I want to know what every muscle is doing, where, what to feel, where my legs are, where are my toes supposed to be, where are my knees supposed to be, where’s my hand, my shoulders.... everything. I want to learn exactly where everything’s supposed to be. He is like that and I can understand it. It’s very deep, very in depth, and I take it as a compliment that I actually can get it! We do have our moments… a person you’re spending that much time with, you do. But, as much as he gets on me for not doing things correctly, I get the equal amount of praise. And if I can’t get something, he has ten other ways to explain it until I do. A lot of teachers don’t have that. They have one way, and if you don’t get it, you don’t get it. Donald has so many ways and analogies, that something always clicks. I couldn’t ask for a better teacher. I’m extremely happy right now.

Do you see yourself continuing to do this for a long time?

I do. Since I started competing I’ve thought that I’d be doing it for a long time. I have my moments, because I’m going through different phases in learning the open routines. I don’t know where it’s going to go. I don’t know where it’s going to lead me. I don’t know my full potential. I get quite surprised that I actually can do certain things. I feel that dancing completely fulfills me and without it I don’t think that I could live. I have to dance. It’s so hard to explain, but I know other dancers understand it. It’s something that boils in your heart. It’s real. I have to do it. I pray to God, I pray to Jesus that he will always give me the help and the strength that I can continue dancing forever.

Courtesy of Dance Notes (http://www.dancenotes.com), a subscription based print publication

SDsalsaguy
11-03-2003, 02:01 PM
Just as an update... Barbara has been competing exclusively in International Ballroom, with Igor Suvorov, for the past year and a half or so – and has won two consecutive U.S. National Pro-Am Ballroom titles along the way.

I've also added a few photos of Barbara with Igor to the ballroom album here: pic 1 (http://www.dance-forums.com/album/showphoto.php?photo=154&password=&sort=1&size=medium&cat=2&page=) – pic 2 (http://www.dance-forums.com/album/showphoto.php?photo=155&password=&sort=1&size=medium&cat=2&page=) – pic 3 (http://www.dance-forums.com/album/showphoto.php?photo=156&password=&sort=1&size=medium&cat=2&page=)

Porfirio Landeros
11-03-2003, 02:58 PM
Heehee... I took pictures of her at Southwest, too :twisted:

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I think she winked at me... she did, right? :wink:

SDsalsaguy
11-03-2003, 11:19 PM
I think she winked at me... she did, right? :wink:
Suuuuuuuuuure Porfirio, whatever you say... :roll: :wink:

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 11:09 AM
Anyone know if she still competes?

(DP, what were you searching for that brought this to the surface again?)

Oh ... nothing.

(DP, quit your whistling, we might think you are up to something.)

SDsalsaguy
10-14-2005, 11:36 AM
No DP, she does not.

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 11:46 AM
Any idea why she stopped?

alemana
10-14-2005, 11:48 AM
i guess jesus stopped listening to her prayers.

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 11:50 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

alemana
10-14-2005, 11:52 AM
the lord is fickle when it comes to playmates, always changing his mind. playing favorites.

SDsalsaguy
10-14-2005, 11:56 AM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.

Merrylegs
10-14-2005, 12:01 PM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.

To Lorenzo Llamas.....?

SDsalsaguy
10-14-2005, 12:03 PM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.

To Lorenzo Llamas.....?
Correct.

Porfirio Landeros
10-14-2005, 12:08 PM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.Past progressive tense ;)

alemana
10-14-2005, 12:13 PM
oh then jesus obviously started listening to lorenzo llamas' prayers. it's cleared up now.

SDsalsaguy
10-14-2005, 12:16 PM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.Past progressive tense ;)
Your point being? :eyebrow:

:wink:

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 12:20 PM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.
Well ... just because I might get married some day doesn't mean I'd give up dancing. :roll:

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 12:21 PM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.
To Lorenzo Llamas.....?
Correct.
I still wouldn't give up dancing. ;) :lol:

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 12:22 PM
oh then jesus obviously started listening to lorenzo llamas' prayers. it's cleared up now.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

tsb
10-14-2005, 12:30 PM
oh then jesus obviously started listening to lorenzo llamas' prayers. it's cleared up now.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

really? why is it non-pc to refer to any other religion in an apparently flippant way?

SDsalsaguy
10-14-2005, 12:30 PM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.
Well ... just because I might get married some day doesn't mean I'd give up dancing. :roll:
I never said that was a reason *to* stop, only that it was the reason why *she* chose to stop. If she now finds other uses of her time more fulfilling, than why wouldn't she stop?

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 12:42 PM
oh then jesus obviously started listening to lorenzo llamas' prayers. it's cleared up now.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

really? why is it non-pc to refer to any other religion in an apparently flippant way?
I interpretted that the flipancy was regarding the topic of this thread, not a specific religion. ;)

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 12:44 PM
Any idea why she stopped?
Yes, she was getting married.
Well ... just because I might get married some day doesn't mean I'd give up dancing. :roll:
I never said that was a reason *to* stop, only that it was the reason why *she* chose to stop. If she now finds other uses of her time more fulfilling, than why wouldn't she stop?
Hmmm ... it must be Friday.

I realize, and it seemed it was answered as requested. It is ok she chose to stop, I just said I wouldn't. ;)

chandra
10-14-2005, 12:51 PM
Its funny how you can have so much passion for something, and spend so much time, and then it just fades away!

swan
10-14-2005, 12:52 PM
Barbara Moore hasn't competed for more than 1 year now. She was in the midst of planning the wedding when she stopped competing. What inspired this thread?

I wondered if they did get married and what happened to the status of Lorenzo's filing for bankruptcy.

SDsalsaguy
10-14-2005, 12:56 PM
What inspired this thread?
Well, the initial post for this thread was a reprint of Barbara's Dance Notes interview/article that was posted here (with permission) on Oct 22, 2003 -- back when she was still competing with Donald Johnson. No clue why it came back to life today... :lol:

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 12:59 PM
What inspired this thread?
Well, the initial post for this thread was a reprint of Barbara's Dance Notes interview/article that was posted here (with permission) on Oct 22, 2003 -- back when she was still competing with Donald Johnson. No clue why it came back to life today... :lol:
Dancepoet was ... snooping? ;) :lol:

Merrylegs
10-14-2005, 01:12 PM
Subjects for flippancy, sarcasm, facetiousness and head shaking abound in the article and this woman's life.

The first time I laughed all day was at Alemana's post, thanks!

I have so much to say about that article AND THE PICTURES that I don't even know where to start.

Well, actually, I do. The photo of her in the red costume is inappropriate. It shows way too much of her, um, lack of dance pants. While I would assume that someone in her line of work is more than comfortable with revealing that side of herself, it doesn't work in ballroom dancing. Competing 101: wear appropriate undergarments. This isn't the Champagne Room at the Cheeta Club. Cover it up, please!

I've actually seen her dance in person, several years ago. I felt that I was looking at a Barbie doll. It was at a competition on the East Coast and the collagen lips, silicone boobs and all the rest of it was just too much. And out of place that far from Hollywood. Even for ballroom, and you know that's saying something!

I also can't believe that the magazine let her plug her website like that. Shameless!

Also, I yawned when she said she came from a Christian conservative household and that, gee, she's now in Playboy. What a shock ! :roll: So many people have swung far into the other direction that I don't care to count them anymore.

And, yes, it's funny to poke fun at uptight people. And that includes Conservative Christians. I said it. OK?

If she had a desk job working at an insurance company no one would care.

alemana
10-14-2005, 01:15 PM
*choking on my gum*

my boss just came over to see if i was ok! hahah!

alemana
10-14-2005, 01:16 PM
from now on, whenever i see inappropriate clothing i'm just going to say, "Excuse me, this isn't the champagne room at the Cheetah Club!"

Merrylegs
10-14-2005, 01:31 PM
Wait a minute. She said she takes 3 lessons a day, 5 days a week. OK, time for some math:

Assuming her lessons are $80 each that would equal $1200/week spent on dance lessons. $1200 x 4 weeks/month equals $4800.

She had (at the time the article went to print) 1,000 members on her site paying $14.95 per month to have her read their letters and give them advice. 1,000 x $14.95 equals $14,950.00.

$14,950.00 From website
- $4,800.00 spent on lessons
---------------
$10,150.00 remaining for other living expenses

I guess y'all should look for michelledimascio.com coming soon! Mention dance forums and get a discount. :lol:

Laura
10-14-2005, 01:34 PM
Using the power of Google, I found out what has happened to the love birds:

Lorenzo Lamas not getting married. Also not a llama.
Permalink | Comments | Tuesday - July 19, 2005

Lorenzo Lamas was supposed to get married a fifth time to Playboy Playmate Barbara Moore on Saturday, but the wedding was suddenly called off that morning. A source told Page Six, "Lorenzo surprised Barbara at her bachelorette party Friday night and caught her in a compromising position with a male stripper."

"Barbara and I would first like to thank our family and friends who have expressed concern at this time," said Lorenzo via his agent. "It is comforting to have their love and support. The two of us have chosen to take different paths, but will continue to support each other in the spirit of the goodness and light that brought us together."

From http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/003184.html

From his unofficial fan web site:

Lorenzo Lamas breaks up with Barbara Moore
(July 2005)

Last year Lorenzo lived like in a beatiful dream. He falled in love with a former Playboygirl, Barbara Moore (36), and last year in July they celebrated their engagement.
"Lorenzo and Barbara were inseparable. They were still together, holding hands, passionately kissing. Lorenzo even cut down shooting, in order to spend more time with his bride-to-be. And now such a smack in the eye! Lorenzo is mentally out of his resources," said one of Lorenzo´s friends.

What happened? Barbara, following the old habit, organized a big party "celebrating" loss of her freedom. She invited all her female friends to one club. One hired stripper was supposed to support the party. A fully-fashioned bodybuilder fascinated Barbara so much, that she started to dance with him.

( http://www.lorenzolamas.info/eng/index.php )

There's more details at the above link, but I didn't post them here because I thought I should be a little family-friendly. Or something.

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 01:43 PM
Subjects for flippancy, sarcasm, facetiousness and head shaking abound in the article and this woman's life.

The first time I laughed all day was at Alemana's post, thanks!

I have so much to say about that article AND THE PICTURES that I don't even know where to start.

Well, actually, I do. The photo of her in the red costume is inappropriate. It shows way too much of her, um, lack of dance pants. While I would assume that someone in her line of work is more than comfortable with revealing that side of herself, it doesn't work in ballroom dancing. Competing 101: wear appropriate undergarments. This isn't the Champagne Room at the Cheeta Club. Cover it up, please!

I've actually seen her dance in person, several years ago. I felt that I was looking at a Barbie doll. It was at a competition on the East Coast and the collagen lips, silicone boobs and all the rest of it was just too much. And out of place that far from Hollywood. Even for ballroom, and you know that's saying something!

I also can't believe that the magazine let her plug her website like that. Shameless!

Also, I yawned when she said she came from a Christian conservative household and that, gee, she's now in Playboy. What a shock ! :roll: So many people have swung far into the other direction that I don't care to count them anymore.

And, yes, it's funny to poke fun at uptight people. And that includes Conservative Christians. I said it. OK?

If she had a desk job working at an insurance company no one would care.
(Ok, we do need to be careful with the religious statements)

I'm not sure I'm really impressed with her looks either.

But, I've seen some very nice looking ladies who work for insurance companies. ;) :D

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 01:44 PM
from now on, whenever i see inappropriate clothing i'm just going to say, "Excuse me, this isn't the champagne room at the Cheetah Club!"
:lol:

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 01:45 PM
Wait a minute. She said she takes 3 lessons a day, 5 days a week. OK, time for some math:

Assuming her lessons are $80 each that would equal $1200/week spent on dance lessons. $1200 x 4 weeks/month equals $4800.

She had (at the time the article went to print) 1,000 members on her site paying $14.95 per month to have her read their letters and give them advice. 1,000 x $14.95 equals $14,950.00.

$14,950.00 From website
- $4,800.00 spent on lessons
---------------
$10,150.00 remaining for other living expenses

I guess y'all should look for michelledimascio.com coming soon! Mention dance forums and get a discount. :lol:
:lol: As long as you look as good as those other ladies who work for insurance companies, you'll do just fine. ;)

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 01:48 PM
Using the power of Google, I found out what has happened to the love birds:

Lorenzo Lamas not getting married. Also not a llama.
Permalink | Comments | Tuesday - July 19, 2005

Lorenzo Lamas was supposed to get married a fifth time to Playboy Playmate Barbara Moore on Saturday, but the wedding was suddenly called off that morning. A source told Page Six, "Lorenzo surprised Barbara at her bachelorette party Friday night and caught her in a compromising position with a male stripper."

"Barbara and I would first like to thank our family and friends who have expressed concern at this time," said Lorenzo via his agent. "It is comforting to have their love and support. The two of us have chosen to take different paths, but will continue to support each other in the spirit of the goodness and light that brought us together."

From http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/003184.html

From his unofficial fan web site:

Lorenzo Lamas breaks up with Barbara Moore
(July 2005)

Last year Lorenzo lived like in a beatiful dream. He falled in love with a former Playboygirl, Barbara Moore (36), and last year in July they celebrated their engagement.
"Lorenzo and Barbara were inseparable. They were still together, holding hands, passionately kissing. Lorenzo even cut down shooting, in order to spend more time with his bride-to-be. And now such a smack in the eye! Lorenzo is mentally out of his resources," said one of Lorenzo´s friends.

What happened? Barbara, following the old habit, organized a big party "celebrating" loss of her freedom. She invited all her female friends to one club. One hired stripper was supposed to support the party. A fully-fashioned bodybuilder fascinated Barbara so much, that she started to dance with him.

( http://www.lorenzolamas.info/eng/index.php )

There's more details at the above link, but I didn't post them here because I thought I should be a little family-friendly. Or something.
Life is full of ... unfortunate situations ... :roll: :roll: :roll:

(Who was it that dragged this thread up from out of nowhere anyway. ;) :lol:)

cornutt
10-14-2005, 01:50 PM
Lorenzo Lamas not getting married. Also not a llama.


Is he not a one-L lama or is he not a two-L llama? We already know he can't be a three-L lllama...

alemana
10-14-2005, 01:57 PM
too much!!!!! LOL.


you know i have been posting that i had an alter-ego, with name and personal details, that i use in order to 'release' my inner salsera/rhythm queen. but honestly i feel like i may have found my new inspiration.

in fact i think i'm going to the cheetah club RIGHT AFTER WORK.

chachachacat
10-14-2005, 02:24 PM
I had thought Lorenzo Lamas was someone really old. ?
Yes, I've seen Barbie Doll dance, with Richard and with Don.


No comment.

Except, HELLO, Barbie's measurements are UNREALISTIC!

alemana
10-14-2005, 02:27 PM
oh goodie, her site's still up.

tsb
10-14-2005, 02:39 PM
Subjects for flippancy, sarcasm, facetiousness and head shaking abound in the article and this woman's life.

The first time I laughed all day was at Alemana's post, thanks!

I have so much to say about that article AND THE PICTURES that I don't even know where to start.

Well, actually, I do. The photo of her in the red costume is inappropriate. It shows way too much of her, um, lack of dance pants. While I would assume that someone in her line of work is more than comfortable with revealing that side of herself, it doesn't work in ballroom dancing. Competing 101: wear appropriate undergarments. This isn't the Champagne Room at the Cheeta Club. Cover it up, please!

I've actually seen her dance in person, several years ago. I felt that I was looking at a Barbie doll. It was at a competition on the East Coast and the collagen lips, silicone boobs and all the rest of it was just too much. And out of place that far from Hollywood. Even for ballroom, and you know that's saying something!

I also can't believe that the magazine let her plug her website like that. Shameless!

Also, I yawned when she said she came from a Christian conservative household and that, gee, she's now in Playboy. What a shock ! :roll: So many people have swung far into the other direction that I don't care to count them anymore.

And, yes, it's funny to poke fun at uptight people. And that includes Conservative Christians. I said it. OK?

If she had a desk job working at an insurance company no one would care.

my point - which seems to have eluded everyone - is that no one makes fun of uptight people of any identifable group - except this one - without getting branded as non-pc by some member of the pc police. i find the inconsistency worth commenting on - especially if one is supposed to be a moderator - whose response - not the repetitive references - is what i commented on.

i mean, somebody should say something since anyone who fits the "conservative christian" stereotype the people participating in this tpoic appear to subscribe to - they wouldn't be reading a thread referring to a playboy playmate anyway, right? and they have as much right to their views as anyone does, don''t they? i mean, they're not nearly as zealous as salsa dancers are about how salsa has changed their lives, or being provincial when they can't understand why others don't share their world view, etc. :roll:

or maybe they're just being gracious & ignoring all this.

Merrylegs
10-14-2005, 03:37 PM
Subjects for flippancy, sarcasm, facetiousness and head shaking abound in the article and this woman's life.

The first time I laughed all day was at Alemana's post, thanks!

I have so much to say about that article AND THE PICTURES that I don't even know where to start.

Well, actually, I do. The photo of her in the red costume is inappropriate. It shows way too much of her, um, lack of dance pants. While I would assume that someone in her line of work is more than comfortable with revealing that side of herself, it doesn't work in ballroom dancing. Competing 101: wear appropriate undergarments. This isn't the Champagne Room at the Cheeta Club. Cover it up, please!

I've actually seen her dance in person, several years ago. I felt that I was looking at a Barbie doll. It was at a competition on the East Coast and the collagen lips, silicone boobs and all the rest of it was just too much. And out of place that far from Hollywood. Even for ballroom, and you know that's saying something!

I also can't believe that the magazine let her plug her website like that. Shameless!

Also, I yawned when she said she came from a Christian conservative household and that, gee, she's now in Playboy. What a shock ! :roll: So many people have swung far into the other direction that I don't care to count them anymore.

And, yes, it's funny to poke fun at uptight people. And that includes Conservative Christians. I said it. OK?

If she had a desk job working at an insurance company no one would care.

my point - which seems to have eluded everyone - is that no one makes fun of uptight people of any identifable group - except this one - without getting branded as non-pc by some member of the pc police. i find the inconsistency worth commenting on - especially if one is supposed to be a moderator - whose response - not the repetitive references - is what i commented on.

i mean, somebody should say something since anyone who fits the "conservative christian" stereotype the people participating in this tpoic appear to subscribe to - they wouldn't be reading a thread referring to a playboy playmate anyway, right? and they have as much right to their views as anyone does, don''t they? i mean, they're not nearly as zealous as salsa dancers are about how salsa has changed their lives, or being provincial when they can't understand why others don't share their world view, etc. :roll:

or maybe they're just being gracious & ignoring all this.

You know what? If, instead of saying "conservative Christian" group I inserted a different noun, would you be having this issue with me? I was using it as an example. And, I DIDN"T SAY ANYTHING THAT I HAVEN"T WITNESSED IN MY OWN LIFE. Wanna guess what my family's beliefs are?

Please, give me a break. If you have an issue with someone how about taking a look at the the former Concservative Christian-Playmate-Internet pornstar-adulteress? Giver her a hard time about values and send her an email, why don't you? I think you've missed the mark, my friend.

Merrylegs
10-14-2005, 03:40 PM
I had thought Lorenzo Lamas was someone really old. ?


Hi father is/was Fernando Lamas, and was/is also an actor.

tsb
10-14-2005, 04:50 PM
You know what? If, instead of saying "conservative Christian" group I inserted a different noun, would you be having this issue with me?


you still don't get the point - which is the only reason i responded to your post to begin with.

i think that someone who is a moderator, regardless of their personal views, has an obligation to be impartial to the best of their ability rather than encourage this - regardless of what faith or religion is being belittled.

*that* is my point - that it's apparently OK to belttle one particular religion but not others and that someone who is a moderator was apparently encouraging it.

still, in response to your question, deity forbid that i make a flippant comment about a stereotype of jews, catholics, mormons, or muslims, etc. but that someone from that group and/or a moderator wouldn't eventually respond and the ruling from on high would be: non PC. but that doesn't seem to happen for the faith in question.

Merrylegs
10-14-2005, 05:05 PM
You know what? If, instead of saying "conservative Christian" group I inserted a different noun, would you be having this issue with me?


you still don't get the point - which is the only reason i responded to your post to begin with.

i think that someone who is a moderator, regardless of their personal views, has an obligation to be impartial to the best of their ability rather than encourage this - regardless of what faith or religion is being belittled.

*that* is my point - that it's apparently OK to belttle one particular religion but not others and that someone who is a moderator was apparently encouraging it.

still, in response to your question, deity forbid that i make a flippant comment about a stereotype of jews, catholics, mormons, or muslims, etc. but that someone from that group and/or a moderator wouldn't eventually respond and the ruling from on high would be: non PC. but that doesn't seem to happen for the faith in question.

Sir, I am confused. I am not a moderator on this forum, or anywhere for that matter.

I admit to being confused, I think you might be as well. Are you taking aim at me or someone else? Am I being paranoid or is there an issue with me?

Please write clearly and succinctly so that I may understand what the problem is. Thanks.

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 05:05 PM
Evidently some of my comments have been ... overlooked? ;)

Merrylegs
10-14-2005, 05:35 PM
I've just re-read every post on this thread, and I can confirm that *I* did not make any derrogatory comments about a specific group. I just said it was funny to poke fun at uptight people. Sure, I made comments about the costume and probably some other stuff, too. I made a reference to Barbara Moore's article and that it was no surprise that she swung all the way to the other end of the spectrum based on the household she grew up in. (That was paraphrasing.)

And, the deity in question is acknowledged by many groups, which I won't name for fear of being called un-pc again. When did it become un-pc to just NAME groups?

If you only knew me, you'd know that I am inclusive of people from every aspect of life, with exception of closed minded people. I've recently dumped a friend for constantly telling racist jokes when I asked him not to, because it goes against my beliefs and the way I live my life. I embrace everybody, o.k.?

Why do I feel like I'm getting into trouble here? I'm going to wait until I hear back from you before I respond again. Am I nuts?

DancePoet
10-14-2005, 05:38 PM
I think it's just Friday. ;) :lol:

fascination
10-18-2005, 09:14 AM
You know what? If, instead of saying "conservative Christian" group I inserted a different noun, would you be having this issue with me?


you still don't get the point - which is the only reason i responded to your post to begin with.

i think that someone who is a moderator, regardless of their personal views, has an obligation to be impartial to the best of their ability rather than encourage this - regardless of what faith or religion is being belittled.

*that* is my point - that it's apparently OK to belttle one particular religion but not others and that someone who is a moderator was apparently encouraging it.

still, in response to your question, deity forbid that i make a flippant comment about a stereotype of jews, catholics, mormons, or muslims, etc. but that someone from that group and/or a moderator wouldn't eventually respond and the ruling from on high would be: non PC. but that doesn't seem to happen for the faith in question.sir, since we are setting the PC setting on high, Catholics ARE christians, at least that is how THEY view themselves and would be quite offended by another christian putting them outside of the category christian...just as would methodists and episcoplaians etc...SO, becareful with your indignation as you have just inadvertantly made a similar error...hug

fascination
10-18-2005, 09:19 AM
Anyone know if she still competes?

(DP, what were you searching for that brought this to the surface again?)

Oh ... nothing.

(DP, quit your whistling, we might think you are up to something.)you know DP the only reason I clicked onto this site was to see what YOU had to say about it :lol: :lol:

Sagitta
10-18-2005, 08:54 PM
This thread was right at the bottom of the page and I couldn't resist. It was brought to my attention by concerned people and I see why. :(

A general comment. Actually a couple...maybe. I welcome pms, but don't want a public discussion of moderating.

1. Comments on moderation by non-members.
Please read the guidelines. Sometimes moderators comment publicly, but in general we like to keep all moderating comments out of the public eye as it changes the atmosphere on df.

2. df atmosphere
Big time sniping going on over here. How many posts arguing about if you/I am a moderator with half the responses with agitated tone and also confused about what we even are talking about? If you think that someone is talking about moderating issues and shouldn't do you continue adding fuel to the fire or pm a moderator? I would advise the latter. There is a reason we have a pm function. Also attacking people's religion/religious views/comments? :shock: This is why we encourage people not to include religious comments. It takes a lot to talk civilly about an issue that is so personal and I have seen very few discussions on df which have touched this issue and succeeded in not disintegrating. Again, we have a pm function.

If I read this thread today as a new member I would hesitate to come back. Think about what most you value about this place and comments that I have seen elsewhere today, included below:
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1:Welcome!

Im pretty new too. So far everyone seems nice. Laughing


2:
Thanks for all the welcomes Very Happy

I haven’t figured out yet how to reply to parts of other posts so I will do it all in one go….
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Perhaps when we feel like retorting back online we consider the impression that we are making? What sort of community that we are trying to create? Open, welcoming discussion, respectfully disagreeing...

alemana
10-24-2005, 10:44 AM
i couldn't disagree more.

clave
10-24-2005, 02:04 PM
I wanted to see what all the ruckus is about, so I went and looked up Barbara Moore photos on google images. I must say, compared to the airbrushed perfection of her Playboy portfolio, her boob job looks absolutely terrible on most of the photos. Big turnoff. Ladies, don't do it.

tacad
10-24-2005, 04:40 PM
i couldn't disagree more.
Uhh,..., ok.