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Kitty
08-09-2005, 02:05 PM
people keep mentioning that they might have split.
If anyone knows anything, please post here and let all of us interested know.
Larinda McRaven
08-09-2005, 02:33 PM
Sorry Kitty, we prefer not to gossip here. If there is an official statement then we can post a copy of that and then discuss it. But until then we at Dance Forums ask everyone to respect Giampiero and Frantsiska's privacy.
Kitty
08-09-2005, 03:06 PM
well, the gossip is already around.
I created the topic so that someone could share official information if they have it.
Chris Stratton
08-09-2005, 04:22 PM
While we're waiting, maybe we could gossip about Kitty's partnership status...
SDsalsaguy
08-09-2005, 04:25 PM
:doh:
Kitty
08-09-2005, 05:18 PM
:lol: :tongue:
so....what's the current status??
SDsalsaguy
08-09-2005, 06:07 PM
How can we gossip if she actually tells us? :shock:
well, we'd like to get some confirmation for the person/couple in question!
standardgirl
08-09-2005, 09:48 PM
While we're waiting, maybe we could gossip about Kitty's partnership status...
hum...this does sound interesting...... :lol:
let's see, where should we start?
If it's gossip, i don't think you're supposed to hear (or "read") it!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Or are you willing to provide us with some inside scoop :shock: :lol: !!
Come on, Kitty, spill yer guts! :)
Kitty
08-10-2005, 10:43 AM
I wish I knew what is going on and what is going to happen with my partnership status...
I "officially" don't have a partner but people keep feeding me hopes and mentioning that there are possibilities. Where?
The opportunities are all around you, you just have to find it!
O.K., enough of space fillers.... maybe next time when someone says that to you, ask them to find you a partner :wink: !
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 11:05 AM
kitty has a lot of interesting things going on :)
since we're *gossiping*, what about sharing some of those "interesting" details for those of us who are bored stiff @ work??!!
pygmalion
08-10-2005, 11:06 AM
Do tell. :wink: (just kidding 8) )
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 11:08 AM
Sorry :P
The first topic she mentioned is also tempting... grr.. can't wait for an official statement so it can be discussed
that could be a while.....
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 11:10 AM
Oh well, probably won't bea around df at Nationals anyway
that's o.k., you can share all your stories when you're back!
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 12:01 PM
The opportunities are all around you, you just have to find it!
O.K., enough of space fillers.... maybe next time when someone says that to you, ask them to find you a partner :wink: !
no, no, no....next time when someone says that to ou, ask them to be your partner :lol:
no, no, no....next time when someone says that to ou, ask them to be your partner :lol:
I wish, but usually people who asks that are those who already have a partner!!
pygmalion
08-10-2005, 12:33 PM
that's o.k., you can share all your stories when you're back!
Yes. Please do share your Nationals experiences when you get back. :D
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 12:35 PM
Is Kitty having tryouts at National?
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 12:37 PM
She's not going to nationals :)
why not (not trying to pry or anything)?
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 12:44 PM
She dosn't have a partner for nationals... I think it's too expensve to go to just watch especially since you can see most of the top people in NY on a regular basis...
Kitty
08-10-2005, 12:45 PM
no, no, no....next time when someone says that to ou, ask them to be your partner :lol:
I wish, but usually people who asks that are those who already have a partner!!
exactly my problem...
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 12:47 PM
no, no, no....next time when someone says that to ou, ask them to be your partner :lol:
I wish, but usually people who asks that are those who already have a partner!!
exactly my problem...
Never hurt to ask, to express the interest and to keep an eye on him...
isn't that kind of what Kat did? :lol: - keep an eye on him -
pygmalion
08-10-2005, 12:48 PM
kitty. Are you okay with this thread? 8) :)
Kitty
08-10-2005, 12:49 PM
no, no, no....next time when someone says that to ou, ask them to be your partner :lol:
I wish, but usually people who asks that are those who already have a partner!!
exactly my problem...
Never hurt to ask, to express the interest and to keep an eye on him...
isn't that kind of what Kat did? :lol: - keep an eye on him -
yeah, have to learn from Kat...
I'm way behind her timeline. It has been over 3 weeks now...
no, no, no....next time when someone says that to ou, ask them to be your partner :lol:
I wish, but usually people who asks that are those who already have a partner!!
exactly my problem...
Never hurt to ask, to express the interest and to keep an eye on him...
isn't that kind of what Kat did? :lol: - keep an eye on him -
eh... i can't exactly keep an eye on someone else's bf/husband/so, that's....just....[insert your choice of word]!
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 12:50 PM
kitty. Are you okay with this thread? 8) :)
kitty, we all love you! :D
Kitty
08-10-2005, 12:51 PM
kitty. Are you okay with this thread? 8) :)
:nope: :lol:
pygmalion
08-10-2005, 12:51 PM
kitty. Are you okay with this thread? 8) :)
:nope: :lol:
Okay. Just checking. :friend: 8)
Kitty
08-10-2005, 12:52 PM
kitty. Are you okay with this thread? 8) :)
kitty, we all love you! :D
Thank you so much! :kissme:
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 12:53 PM
kitty. Are you okay with this thread? 8) :)
:nope: :lol:
oh..okay...guess we can be more wild now :raisebro: :twisted:
oh..okay...guess we can be more wild now :raisebro: :twisted:
:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 12:56 PM
kitty. Are you okay with this thread? 8) :)
kitty, we all love you! :D
Thank you so much! :kissme:
You, too for being who you are - supportive and everything! :together:
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 01:01 PM
Kitty is such a talented dancer, and such a sweet cute person :lol:
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:04 PM
Kitty is such a talented dancer, and such a sweet cute person :lol:
sounds pretty good, until it reaches the "big smile :lol: "
so, are you being honest, or just joking? :lol:
Kitty
08-10-2005, 01:04 PM
no, no, no....next time when someone says that to ou, ask them to be your partner :lol:
I wish, but usually people who asks that are those who already have a partner!!
exactly my problem...
Never hurt to ask, to express the interest and to keep an eye on him...
isn't that kind of what Kat did? :lol: - keep an eye on him -
eh... i can't exactly keep an eye on someone else's bf/husband/so, that's....just....[insert your choice of word]!
Truth is, it is all the good ones that are already taken.
Being partnerless in a city with a relatively small dancing scene is weird. You are practically waiting for someone to split up or move to the city.
I found one partnerless guy who is not very good right now, but is willing to train hard... I would work with him, but now he told me he will probably relocate in 9 months...
I just had too much of that. My previous 2 partners both moved away. One to another state and one to another country :shock:
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:07 PM
Being partnerless in a city with a relatively small dancing scene is weird. You are practically waiting for someone to split up or move to the city.
This is the word of the day for me......
now, what should I do in a week? :? :evil:
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 01:08 PM
Kitty is such a talented dancer, and such a sweet cute person :lol:
sounds pretty good, until it reaches the "big smile :lol: "
so, are you being honest, or just joking? :lol:
Smile is after remembering the cute aspect of kitty
Truth is, it is all the good ones that are already taken.
Being partnerless in a city with a relatively small dancing scene is weird. You are practically waiting for someone to split up or move to the city.
I found one partnerless guy who is not very good right now, but is willing to train hard... I would work with him, but now he told me he will probably relocate in 9 months...
I just had too much of that. My previous 2 partners both moved away. One to another state and one to another country :shock:
NY is a city with relatively small dancing scene?? Try where I live!! Everyone in my studio is 40+, every partnerless guy who i want to try out with is either not interested in working hard or not interested to put in the time to practce, this is very frustrating!!
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:10 PM
Kitty is such a talented dancer, and such a sweet cute person :lol:
sounds pretty good, until it reaches the "big smile :lol: "
so, are you being honest, or just joking? :lol:
Smile is after remembering the cute aspect of kitty
oh...com'on, tell us more....what did she do that's so cute? :lol:
Chris Stratton
08-10-2005, 01:11 PM
Being partnerless in a city with a relatively small dancing scene is weird. You are practically waiting for someone to split up or move to the city.
Fact of the day: NY is a city "with a relatively small dancing scene"
Actually, it is... though relative to what is a good question.
This is the word of the day for me......
now, what should I do in a week? :? :evil:
Keep on dancing?? :lol:
Fact of the day: NY is a city "with a relatively small dancing scene"
Actually, it is... though relative to what is a good question.
Definately not relative to where i'm from!
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 01:13 PM
Kitty is such a talented dancer, and such a sweet cute person :lol:
sounds pretty good, until it reaches the "big smile :lol: "
so, are you being honest, or just joking? :lol:
Smile is after remembering the cute aspect of kitty
oh...com'on, tell us more....what did she do that's so cute? :lol:
The face says it all, just look at the face
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:16 PM
The face says it all, just look at the face
okay, the next time I see her, I will make sure I "just look at the face." :lol:
Kitty
08-10-2005, 01:17 PM
Being partnerless in a city with a relatively small dancing scene is weird. You are practically waiting for someone to split up or move to the city.
Fact of the day: NY is a city "with a relatively small dancing scene"
Actually, it is... though relative to what is a good question.
ok, maybe I didn't say it right. the dancing scene is not small. It is the competitive dancing scene that is small.
also it gets smaller and smaller as levels go up.
ok, maybe I didn't say it right. the dancing scene is not small. It is the competitive dancing scene that is small.
also it gets smaller and smaller as levels go up.
But that's true with everything - not everyone can be at the top!
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:20 PM
This is the word of the day for me......
now, what should I do in a week? :? :evil:
Keep on dancing?? :lol:
with whom?
oh well, my teacher, I suppose :roll: :wink:
The good ones here are all romantically involved or married, so I guess I have to wait until someone get divorce or move here...... :wink: :lol:
with whom?
oh well, my teacher, I suppose :roll: :wink:
The good ones here are all romantically involved or married, so I guess I have to wait until someone get divorce or move here...... :wink: :lol:
That's my plan for now..... [perhaps not the waiting for someone getting divorced bit.. :shock: :? .)
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:26 PM
That's my plan for now..... [perhaps not the waiting for someone getting divorced bit.. :shock: :? .)
but I am serious, the good ones here are all married with one exception where they are still dating....and yes, we are talking about amateurs in there mid/late 20's. people here just seems to get married early, or maybe that's the way to go to secure a dance partner? :lol:
but I am serious, the good ones are all married with one exception where they are still dating
Yes, I completely understand what you mean, because i very much face the same situation. Right now the only ppl i can practice with are: my teacher & my imaginery partner!
Kitty
08-10-2005, 01:30 PM
ok, maybe I didn't say it right. the dancing scene is not small. It is the competitive dancing scene that is small.
also it gets smaller and smaller as levels go up.
But that's true with everything - not everyone can be at the top!
question is what is the top. In other countries where ballroom as a sport is more popular, I would be considered a beginner as the average level is very high. and as a beginner I would have a lot of people at a similar level to pick from. It would still be relatively easy at my level...
here I am a competent advanced dancer, and though I'm not at the top yet, there are literally very few people at my level to pick a partner from.
for comparison, in Russia an average competition in Moskow would have a couple hundred couples in the champ level, and a couple hundred in the prechamp. In that kind of scene there are always people out there looking for a partner.
in NY, prechamp rarely has more than an incomplete semi (and most of the couples participating are not even local).
question is what is the top. In other countries where ballroom as a sport is more popular, I would be considered a beginner as the average level is very high.
here I am a competent advanced dancer, and though I'm not at the top yet, there are literally very few people at my level to pick a partner from.
for comparison, in Russia an average competition in Moskow would have a couple hundred couples in the champ level, and a couple hundred in the prechamp. I that kind of scene there are always people out there looking for a partner.
in NY, prechamp rarely has more than an incomplete semi (and most of the couples participating are not even local).
You are absolutely right. But given the vast diversity of "things to do" in NY, it all comes down to choices. To be at your level takes a lot of practice and commitment - not something everyone's willing to do. It all comes down to interests and priorities, unfortunately, not everyone who picks up dancing will end up in your level, it's just not their "thing". It's just statistical fact that for those people who've ever tried dancing, only a few will stay, and maybe only 1 or 2 will have the perseverance to keep on advancing to the prechamp/champ level.
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:41 PM
hey kitty, do you feel like you are kind of in between?
like if you were better than where you are right now, it would be easier to find a partner, and also if you were not as good, perhaps it wouldn't be so hard to find a partner, either......
anyone feels this way?
Kitty
08-10-2005, 01:42 PM
I know I know....
so lets discuss the evil plan for stealing one of those good dancers form their wife... :twisted:
just kidding
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:47 PM
I know I know....
so lets discuss the evil plan for stealing one of those good dancers form their wife... :twisted:
I don't think the good guys in NY are all married?
so, perhaps you just need to steal them from their partner? :wink:
Speaking of stealing ones husband....hum, let's see.....
oh, I think a lot of experienced dancers can give you good advices
oops, did I say that? :lol:
there are so many dramas...... :roll:
Kitty
08-10-2005, 01:51 PM
hey kitty, do you feel like you are kind of in between?
like if you were better than where you are right now, it would be easier to find a partner, and also if you were not as good, perhaps it wouldn't be so hard to find a partner, either......
anyone feels this way?
yes. But I feel that's a unique situation. I would ideally want an open partner, but I am not familiar with open choreography. I'm perfectly fine with waltz (got plenty of practice with my last partner who was at the open level) and ok with tango and foxtrot. But I can't really do open quickstep, so I am not a "competent open person" yet.
it is different in syllabus though, or when you are securely open. so yes I feel in between.
but it is not my in-betweenness that limits me in finding a partner.
I have not yet tried out with a single standard guy at the prechamp level. I mean, it is not like there are guys around to try out with, but I am just not good enough to get them to dance with me. There are just no guys. And actually there are not too many girls either...
Kitty
08-10-2005, 01:53 PM
I don't think the good guys in NY are all married?
so, perhaps you just need to steal them from their partner? :wink:
Let's not talk about this... :shock: :lol: :lol:
Chris Stratton
08-10-2005, 01:56 PM
I have not yet tried out with a single standard guy at the prechamp level. I mean, it is not like there are guys around to try out with, but I am just not good enough to get them to dance with me. There are just no guys. And actually there are not too many girls either...
Probably because the numerically larger part of the NY field does pre-champ when they are what, 12? Wheras those passing through pre-champ in adulthood are fewer in number.
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 01:56 PM
I mean, it is not like there are guys around to try out with, but I am just not good enough to get them to dance with me. There are just no guys. And actually there are not too many girls either...
Same thing back there. There is actually a guy who is currently not dancing, but used to compete at prechamp level. I don't know what his plan is right now since he is in school and busy with that, but I am not good enough for him anyways. I am so tempted to ask him, but I am afraid too at the same time. :roll:
Kitty
08-10-2005, 02:00 PM
I have not yet tried out with a single standard guy at the prechamp level. I mean, it is not like there are guys around to try out with, but I am just not good enough to get them to dance with me. There are just no guys. And actually there are not too many girls either...
Probably because the numerically larger part of the NY field does pre-champ when they are what, 12? Wheras those passing through pre-champ in adulthood are fewer in number.
probably.
actually, I realized what I said was wrong. There is exactly one guy in NY who is at the prechamp level and a decent height match... :shock: :evil: :lol:
let's not go there...
diputs
08-10-2005, 02:00 PM
As another New Yorker, here is a question.
How did you find the time and money to get to your current level?
Unfortunateley I do not think many New Yorkers have the luxury of money and time.
I would love to dance more. My biggest problem is time. A 40 hour week work is a vacation for me.
Good luck finding a partner. If you Dance they will come.
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 02:04 PM
actually, I realized what I said was wrong. There is exactly one guy in NY who is at the prechamp level and a decent height match... :shock: :evil: :lol:
now, you have just made me start to ******* my memories of all the people I have met...... :lol:
hum, let's see.....
As another New Yorker, here is a question.
How did you find the time and money to get to your current level?
Unfortunateley I do not think many New Yorkers have the luxury of money and time.
I would love to dance more. My biggest problem is time. A 40 hour week work is a vacation for me.
Good luck finding a partner. If you Dance they will come.
not a New Yorker here, but i beat up my teacher in giving me the early morning or late night slot!
Kitty
08-10-2005, 02:23 PM
As another New Yorker, here is a question.
How did you find the time and money to get to your current level?
Unfortunateley I do not think many New Yorkers have the luxury of money and time.
I would love to dance more. My biggest problem is time. A 40 hour week work is a vacation for me.
Good luck finding a partner. If you Dance they will come.
time and money somewhat depend on what your priorities are. For me dancing has been top priority in the past year.
actually getting to my current level didn't cost too much money. (well, according to my mom it did cost an insane amount of money, but it really cost very little compared to what may people spend)
I didn't put "too much" time in while in syllabus. But that depend on what is too much for you.
For one year I typically had 1 lesson every 2 weeks (though by the end of the year it was becoming 1 lesson every week) and practiced about 6 hours per week. I also did only one style, to concentrate my efforts.
I had an amateur partner I do't think what I did is really possible without a partner (unless you are willing to spend a lot more money). And I picked best teachers. Teachers that I think provide most value for the money.
I was in college so I had a more time and flexibility than those who work. I know though people who work and still manage to put in a lot more hours than I did. (for example, Katarzyna) All depends on your priorities...
alemana
08-10-2005, 02:29 PM
i am choosing to stay in a well-compensated field (advertising) i dislike primarily because leaving it would severely impact my ability to pay for the dancing i enjoy so much.
standardgirl
08-10-2005, 02:30 PM
As another New Yorker, here is a question.
How did you find the time and money to get to your current level?
Unfortunateley I do not think many New Yorkers have the luxury of money and time.
I would love to dance more. My biggest problem is time. A 40 hour week work is a vacation for me.
Good luck finding a partner. If you Dance they will come.
It's a matter of priority, imo.......
It's hard to desceibe, but everyone has a busy life.
During school, I have 18 hrs of classes each week (that's pure time spent in the classroom), then time spent for homework and studying, and then I work 15 hrs a week, and still manage to dance and mantain fairly high grades. This is no where less than a 40 hour work week.
Right now, I work about 40~45 hrs a week, and I have a one-hour commute each way to dance, but I still manage to do it. Of course, my days are just work, dance, shower and sleep. That's about it. There are sacrificies to make, but it's doable.
Speaking of money, if you practice enough, you can really make a lot of progress with just a few lessons. Practicing is not expensive at all if you have a partner (it's about $4.25 per hour per person if you get a card). I don't think Kitty spent a lot of money or took a lot of lessons to get to where she is right now.
Yes, it does get very pricy when you don't have a partner and can only do pro/am. But even that, it's still affordable in most cases in the beginning when you are taking one lesson per week and you have a stable job. To play the pro/am game at the top level is a different story as you would then need to compete a lot to be seen by judges, and then with all the politics involved it does become a matter of money.
Medira
08-10-2005, 02:55 PM
i am choosing to stay in a well-compensated field (advertising) i dislike primarily because leaving it would severely impact my ability to pay for the dancing i enjoy so much.I'm in the same boat, though I'm in IT. I'm just hoping the new job that I start on Monday isn't as tedious as the one I'm leaving.
I work to be able to pay for my dancing. That's all.
mamboqueen
08-10-2005, 03:01 PM
work to be able to pay for my dancing
Amen!
mamboqueen
08-10-2005, 03:05 PM
Okay, Kitty, I just want you to remember that YOU said these words, words that I said months ago and you told me "bahhhh -- it's not that hard to find a partner":
There are just no guys
Bahhhhh!!!!
Okay. don't mean to kick you while you're down. I hope you find someone. Have you tried dancepartner.com?
Kitty
08-10-2005, 03:11 PM
I still stand by my words.
I'm pretty sure I'll find someone... But won't neccessarily be perfectly happy with him (at least for a while)...
I didn't mean to say there are no guys... I meant, there are no perfect guys.
And there are no perfect girls either. so it is tough for guys as well...
I think the number of available acceptable guys around is proportional to the time you've been partnerless. inversely proportional to the amount of money you have that you can spend on pro/am. and inversely proportional to your level.
mamboqueen
08-10-2005, 03:16 PM
well, there's more perfect girls than there are perfect guys (ducking!) :lol: Except for the df guys, who are as close to perfect as one can get :lol: :lol:
I'll stand by my words, too. I think NYC is the place to find a partner. A higher concentration of male dancers....and probably a higher concentration of gay male dancers (and I only make this distinction because that means more available men to dance with and less marriages to have to break up :wink: )...
I'm sure you'll find someone. It's just (as Tom Petty said) 'the waiting is the hardest part."
Kitty
08-10-2005, 03:20 PM
I'll stand by my words, too. I think NYC is the place to find a partner. A higher concentration of male dancers....and probably a higher concentration of gay male dancers (and I only make this distinction because that means more available men to dance with and less marriages to have to break up :wink: )...
doesn't that also mean more single women?
DancePoet
08-10-2005, 03:24 PM
Being partnerless in a city with a relatively small dancing scene is weird. You are practically waiting for someone to split up or move to the city.
Fact of the day: NY is a city "with a relatively small dancing scene"
Actually, it is... though relative to what is a good question.
ok, maybe I didn't say it right. the dancing scene is not small. It is the competitive dancing scene that is small.
also it gets smaller and smaller as levels go up.
Ayuh, the competive dance scene is relatively the same elsewhere. ;)
mamboqueen
08-10-2005, 03:25 PM
doesn't that also mean more single women?
Yup, but probably much better odds than up here in the Beantown area.
DancePoet
08-10-2005, 03:27 PM
question is what is the top. In other countries where ballroom as a sport is more popular, I would be considered a beginner as the average level is very high.
here I am a competent advanced dancer, and though I'm not at the top yet, there are literally very few people at my level to pick a partner from.
for comparison, in Russia an average competition in Moskow would have a couple hundred couples in the champ level, and a couple hundred in the prechamp. I that kind of scene there are always people out there looking for a partner.
in NY, prechamp rarely has more than an incomplete semi (and most of the couples participating are not even local).
You are absolutely right. But given the vast diversity of "things to do" in NY, it all comes down to choices. To be at your level takes a lot of practice and commitment - not something everyone's willing to do. It all comes down to interests and priorities, unfortunately, not everyone who picks up dancing will end up in your level, it's just not their "thing". It's just statistical fact that for those people who've ever tried dancing, only a few will stay, and maybe only 1 or 2 will have the perseverance to keep on advancing to the prechamp/champ level.
Ayuh. I've had four partners. The first three for only one comp, and these were all disolved for good reasons, but it taught me to be more choosy wiht my fourth. However, I've only done one comp with this one, and perhaps never again, because she is tending to her ill mother who has cancer, and who knows what lies around the bend on this. Thus, life moves forward, and it just goes to show you, nothing is ever as certain as we feel. ;) 8)
diputs
08-10-2005, 03:28 PM
I still stand by my words.
I'm pretty sure I'll find someone... But won't neccessarily be perfectly happy with him (at least for a while)...
This made me laugh out loud.
Reminds me of my last girlfriend. She kept trying to retrain me:)
DancePoet
08-10-2005, 03:31 PM
well, there's more perfect girls than there are perfect guys (ducking!) :lol: Except for the df guys, who are as close to perfect as one can get :lol: :lol:
Well ... this is one DF guy that ain't perfect. :oops:
pygmalion
08-10-2005, 03:33 PM
I still stand by my words.
I'm pretty sure I'll find someone... But won't neccessarily be perfectly happy with him (at least for a while)...
This made me laugh out loud.
Reminds me of my last girlfriend. She kept trying to retrain me:)
*giggle* :shock: That's not what you do with boyfriends? Retrain them, that is.
:doh: Oh! My illusions are shattered. (or is that delusions?) :roll: :wink: :lol:
Kitty
08-10-2005, 03:33 PM
well, there's more perfect girls than there are perfect guys (ducking!) :lol: Except for the df guys, who are as close to perfect as one can get :lol: :lol:
Well ... this is one DF guy that ain't perfect. :oops:
why not?
I'm sure you are a perfect partner for someone...
Katarzyna
08-10-2005, 08:32 PM
And I hear there are a lot more man in NY than women... (dance world).. expecially pre-champ/champ
Kitty
08-11-2005, 12:02 PM
where are they...?
Kat, be my partner! (following the advice that when someone mentions opportunities to ask them to be my partner)
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 12:04 PM
Aren't we already partnered for smooth? She's so mean, she already forgot :( she isnt valuing the partners she already has :cry:
(You just need another partner for standard :lol: )
Kitty
08-11-2005, 12:22 PM
Aren't we already partnered for smooth? She's so mean, she already forgot :( she isnt valuing the partners she already has :cry:
(You just need another partner for standard :lol: )
I'm so sorry. I didn't mean it that way! I meant to ask you to be my standard partner as well...
but if you see a surplus of standard prechamp boys around, point them out please.
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 12:26 PM
Aren't we already partnered for smooth? She's so mean, she already forgot :( she isnt valuing the partners she already has :cry:
(You just need another partner for standard :lol: )
I'm so sorry. I didn't mean it that way! I meant to ask you to be my standard partner as well...
but if you see a surplus of standard prechamp boys around, point them out please.
:lol:
I will when I see them> i just constantly hear they are around, just not sure where...
Kitty
08-11-2005, 12:33 PM
Aren't we already partnered for smooth? She's so mean, she already forgot :( she isnt valuing the partners she already has :cry:
(You just need another partner for standard :lol: )
I'm so sorry. I didn't mean it that way! I meant to ask you to be my standard partner as well...
but if you see a surplus of standard prechamp boys around, point them out please.
:lol:
I will when I see them> i just constantly hear they are around, just not sure where...
Thats what I hear all the time as well! "you'll find someone" "there are prechamp guys around"
WHERE ARE THEY HIDING? :shock: :lol:
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 12:38 PM
:lol:
TemptressToo
08-11-2005, 12:53 PM
The closest thing to gossip I have is that Bob and Julia will no longer be competing or performing...very soon...Bob stated that the Bourbon Street Ball was to be one of the last exhibition performances they would do...he said one or two more might be a possibility, but after that they are done.
Anyway, I was sad....
Thats what I hear all the time as well! "you'll find someone" "there are prechamp guys around"
WHERE ARE THEY HIDING? :shock: :lol:
In the closet, maybe?? Now you just have to go and drag themout :lol: !
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 12:57 PM
Thats what I hear all the time as well! "you'll find someone" "there are prechamp guys around"
WHERE ARE THEY HIDING? :shock: :lol:
In the closet, maybe?? Now you just have to go and drag themout :lol: !
Or seduce them away from their partners :)
Or seduce them away from their partners :)
:shock:
Hmm, daunting task!
do i really want to know how you found your current partner?? :shock: :lol:
standardgirl
08-11-2005, 01:00 PM
do i really want to know how you found your current partner?? :shock: :lol:
Oh....so what they said in the newspaper, and what you claimed is NOT true? :lol: :lol:
Tell us, Kat, What did you REALLY do? :lol: :shock:
Kitty
08-11-2005, 01:01 PM
Thats what I hear all the time as well! "you'll find someone" "there are prechamp guys around"
WHERE ARE THEY HIDING? :shock: :lol:
In the closet, maybe?? Now you just have to go and drag themout :lol: !
and why would they be in the closet? What are they doing there?
There is nothing wrong with being a standard dancer, is there?
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:05 PM
do i really want to know how you found your current partner?? :shock: :lol:
Oh....so what they said in the newspaper, and what you claimed is NOT true? :lol: :lol:
Tell us, Kat, What did you REALLY do? :lol: :shock:
I did nothing, I just knew that Alex was looking for a partner when B & I split up.. really not much of a story...
and why would they be in the closet? What are they doing there?
There is nothing wrong with being a standard dancer, is there?
Secretly practicing their steps so they can be PERFECT enough to be your partner :wink: ???
Kitty
08-11-2005, 01:12 PM
and why would they be in the closet? What are they doing there?
There is nothing wrong with being a standard dancer, is there?
Secretly practicing their steps so they can be PERFECT enough to be your partner :wink: ???
they better! :twisted:
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:14 PM
Since kitty is practicing her steps, so should they :)
Kitty
08-11-2005, 01:15 PM
But I don't want to intimidate anyone... I am really a very nice and cute girl, that is never mean to her partner :roll: ...
:kitty:
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:16 PM
:lol:
She's really nice and she ALWAYS listen to her partner, and she NEVER try to make him better by working on him.. EVER :roll:
Kitty
08-11-2005, 01:18 PM
maybe I should ask Kat for a letter of recommendation...
put on all my partner search ads "references available upon request"
that's why they need to make sure that they're good enough for you - b/c you're too nice!
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:19 PM
maybe I should ask Kat for a letter of recommendation...
put on all my partner search ads "references available upon request"
I'd definitley recommend you to any serious partner :) HIGHLY recommended
diputs
08-11-2005, 01:27 PM
But I don't want to intimidate anyone... I am really a very nice and cute girl, that is never mean to her partner :roll: ...
:kitty:
:lol:
She's really nice and she ALWAYS listen to her partner, and she NEVER try to make him better by working on him.. EVER :roll:
I can see the guys running for the door now!!!! :)
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:34 PM
But I don't want to intimidate anyone... I am really a very nice and cute girl, that is never mean to her partner :roll: ...
:kitty:
:lol:
She's really nice and she ALWAYS listen to her partner, and she NEVER try to make him better by working on him.. EVER :roll:
I can see the guys running for the door now!!!! :)
Not serious dancers that want to achieve something
Chris Stratton
08-11-2005, 01:35 PM
Thats what I hear all the time as well! "you'll find someone" "there are prechamp guys around"
WHERE ARE THEY HIDING? :shock: :lol:
The first round of champ?
diputs
08-11-2005, 01:36 PM
But I don't want to intimidate anyone... I am really a very nice and cute girl, that is never mean to her partner :roll: ...
:kitty:
:lol:
She's really nice and she ALWAYS listen to her partner, and she NEVER try to make him better by working on him.. EVER :roll:
I can see the guys running for the door now!!!! :)
Not serious dancers that want to achieve something
It was a joke:)
Kitty
08-11-2005, 01:37 PM
Thats what I hear all the time as well! "you'll find someone" "there are prechamp guys around"
WHERE ARE THEY HIDING? :shock: :lol:
The first round of champ?
the ones that are lucky enough to dance the first round of champ HAVE A PARTNER!
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:37 PM
But I don't want to intimidate anyone... I am really a very nice and cute girl, that is never mean to her partner :roll: ...
:kitty:
:lol:
She's really nice and she ALWAYS listen to her partner, and she NEVER try to make him better by working on him.. EVER :roll:
I can see the guys running for the door now!!!! :)
Not serious dancers that want to achieve something
It was a joke:)
:) mine too
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:37 PM
Thats what I hear all the time as well! "you'll find someone" "there are prechamp guys around"
WHERE ARE THEY HIDING? :shock: :lol:
The first round of champ?
No, that's the same group of people who do pre-champ
diputs
08-11-2005, 01:38 PM
8 pages all about Kitty.
Stand up and take a bow!! :applause:
:shock: !! :raisebro: that must be a record breaker!
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:45 PM
kitty is very special
Of course! makes me want to fly down and dance with her.....too bad i'm not a man.....and definately can't lead :oops:
Kitty
08-11-2005, 01:46 PM
didn't find a bow smiley...
hope this works:
:rocker:
Kitty
08-11-2005, 01:46 PM
Of course! makes me want to fly down and dance with her.....too bad i'm not a man.....and definately can't lead :oops:
thats ok. I can :lol:
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 01:46 PM
didn't find a bow smiley...
hope this works:
:rocker:
I think wil will do :)
diputs
08-11-2005, 01:46 PM
Just don't bow like that on the Dance Floor!!
Kitty
08-11-2005, 01:47 PM
didn't find a bow smiley...
hope this works:
:rocker:
I think wil will do :)
the closest one to a bow that I've found:-)
mamboqueen
08-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Nice choppers!
standardgirl
08-11-2005, 02:05 PM
8 pages all about Kitty.
Stand up and take a bow!! :applause:
See...gossips grow FAST, and people like gossips :lol:
I bet this is one of the fastest growing thread on DF!
P.S., i'm curious, Kitty, which one are you more comfortable with, lead or follow?
Kitty
08-11-2005, 02:11 PM
following of course. But I don't think it matters too much. It is all same thing after some point...
following of course. But I don't think it matters too much. It is all same thing after some point...
Impressive 8) !
diputs
08-11-2005, 02:13 PM
following of course. But I don't think it matters too much. It is all same thing after some point...
Would you mind elaborating on this. Whwn does leading and following feel the same? Or did I read this wrong?
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 02:15 PM
She's a great follower, but also a very decent lead, feels better than syllabus man..
Kitty
08-11-2005, 02:36 PM
slow slow quick quick slow slow quick quick... bronze am. foxtrot...
and then when your body and mind are ready you find out that you can pretty much walk in any direction with a partner in a ballroom hold. the most important thing is too keep your body over your feet, and keep your frame without shifting. You don't need to call a figure "quater turn" or anything else to do it. You can make up any figure as long as it is possible to do that figure with a partner.
so when you are there. when you just walk with a partner doing random or not so random stuff automatically, because you've practiced it so much, that it became automatic, then it doesn't really matter whether you are a leader or a follower. ifyou are a leader, you initiate direction of movement and then follow the follower. If you are a follower, you follow the leader's intention as you understand it, then see if he follows, and follow him again.
I think everyone is following everyone, and the difference is only who intiates the movement.
if you want to lead specific figures in a dance, then yes, you need some practice (but if you know the follower's part very well, it wont' take too much time to learn to reverse it)
This only works though if you are proficient with the dance. For example, I've never learned hustle (though I can follow it), so I'can't really make up the moves as I have no idea what this dance should even look like.
but I can lead some stuff in every standard dance, even though I heven't really practiced it much as a leader. I am comfortable enough with these dances so that i can reverse it in my head, or at least do something simple, without too much trouble.
of course there are certain tricks a leader should know about leading specific things. But followers often end up knowing them too. For example, I know what I need from a leader in a contra check. I can lead it ok: I'm just trying to give the follower what I would like to feel from a leader in a contracheck. Of course, this is high level dancing, as a follower, when you don't just do your stuff when you are lead, but you know exactly what and how you are doing and what you need from the leader in order for it to work. I can't lead throwaway oversway because I don't exactly know how it works even as a girl (though I can sort of do it with a leader).
so basically I try to give the follower the same as I want from the leader if I was following. Because I am stable on my feet and experienced in partner dancing, I am able to pull it off...
if you know how it works with a partner and how 2 bodies fit together (standard) or work together and how connection works (latin), then it doens't really matter much which part to dance. Both partners end up following each other.
diputs
08-11-2005, 02:43 PM
I think everyone is following everyone, and the difference is only who intiates the movement.
:idea:
Kitty
08-11-2005, 02:45 PM
She's a great follower, but also a very decent lead, feels better than syllabus man..
wow really?
I guess it depends...
When we dance with Kat, in standard at least I end up following her a lot. I sort of indicate where I want to go, and she does her girl's part exactly right, and powerfully. She just goes into the right position and I follow her. She makes sure she is the right place all the time. and since I am a good follower, I make sure I follow her and end up in the right place as well...
When you have a very active follower, I guess it is easier. Because I actually end up following her body position.
sometimes she does something different from what I intended, then I consider that I learned how to lead a new step... :lol:
Katarzyna
08-11-2005, 02:46 PM
sometimes she does something different from what I intended, then I consider that I learned how to lead a new step... :lol:
I love this :) :lol: :lol:
diputs
08-11-2005, 02:57 PM
sometimes she does something different from what I intended, then I consider that I learned how to lead a new step... :lol:
I love this :) :lol: :lol:
This is why women can never lead. They are way to logical!! :)
:argue:
I just liked this emoticon. I thought it was funny.
Kitty
08-11-2005, 03:27 PM
first time in my life I'm hearing a complaint that women are "too logical"! :shock:
first time in my life I'm hearing a complaint that women are "too logical"! :shock:
Same, here, just the other day, my co-worker was complaining to me how "irrational" and "emotional" women can be!
mamboqueen
08-11-2005, 05:42 PM
how "irrational" and "emotional" women can be!
That sounds more like it. But, having emotions is a plus in my book. A rumba wouldn't be quite the same without them :)
cl5814
08-11-2005, 06:15 PM
slow slow quick quick slow slow quick quick... bronze am. foxtrot...
.
Kitty, i really enjoyed reading your post. Made a lot of sense to me... i will definitely have to try leading using your approach. Well, i was able to lead a quater turn the other day.... Now i understand why having knowledge of both leading and following is so valuable....
Larinda McRaven
08-11-2005, 09:03 PM
slow slow quick quick slow slow quick quick... bronze am. foxtrot...
and then when your body and mind are ready you find out that you can pretty much walk in any direction with a partner in a ballroom hold. the most important thing is too keep your body over your feet, and keep your frame without shifting. You don't need to call a figure "quater turn" or anything else to do it.
.... (deleted to conserve space)...
if you know how it works with a partner and how 2 bodies fit together (standard) or work together and how connection works (latin), then it doens't really matter much which part to dance. Both partners end up following each other.
Kitty this was a great post!
flexi
08-11-2005, 10:23 PM
Kitty's leading post is similar to an idea I was once taught by a very well know argentine tango teacher...
He made sure that I understood the difference between the concept of "lead and follow" and the concept of "marking"...
The system he taught required a leader to communicate to the "follower" the direction and speed of a step... and she would the react AND MOVE BEFORE THE MAN...
as she moved, the man the would move, and place his foot.. and time it to touch the floor at the same time as the lady..
Comunicate direction and speed "MARK" or (send) the lady, follow her movement, place and time your foot accordingly..
I belive this is a great system, and as I learn more and more, I hear more things that support this system of "lead and follow" in standard ballroom..
Maybe a better terms would be..
Communicate, wait for responce, react to responce..."
standardgirl
08-12-2005, 12:25 PM
She's a great follower, but also a very decent lead, feels better than syllabus man..
wow really?
I guess it depends...
Yeah, you do lead better than most syllabus men...... :)
There just aren't that many good men who haven't declared themselves prechamp. :wink:
Chris Stratton
08-12-2005, 01:58 PM
as if men have a monopoly on declaring themselves pre-champ...
diputs
08-12-2005, 02:08 PM
The system he taught required a leader to communicate to the "follower"
If the system requires a man to communicate with a woman, isn't it doomed to fail by its very nature?
:doh:
Kitty
08-12-2005, 07:37 PM
as if men have a monopoly on declaring themselves pre-champ...
and who are you refering to here? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Kitty
08-12-2005, 07:51 PM
The system he taught required a leader to communicate to the "follower" the direction and speed of a step... and she would the react AND MOVE BEFORE THE MAN...
as she moved, the man the would move, and place his foot.. and time it to touch the floor at the same time as the lady..
Comunicate direction and speed "MARK" or (send) the lady, follow her movement, place and time your foot accordingly..
I belive this is a great system, and as I learn more and more, I hear more things that support this system of "lead and follow" in standard ballroom..
when I was a beginner I was taught that in standard the lady's job is to 1) follow the movement of the man (came naturally) and 2) stay on the man's left (that took a lot of practice)
when you are a follower the correct place to step is relative to your partner. There is no "backing diagonal wall is correct for step one of a natural turn"... everything is relative to the leader.
so when I lead, I think I am doing the same thing. indicate the movements and positions to the follower and then move myself in such a place that I would maintain my posititon on the left of the girl. (Yes, if the follower is on the left of the man, that means the man is on the left of the follower...)
so when I am leading, I indicate where and how I want to go and then go myself to the right position relative to the follower.
I do this in latin as well. The rigt position is where I should be relative to my partner. But due to greater variety of positions, it is more difficult to explain than in standard, where it is just always on the left.
Chris Stratton
08-12-2005, 09:00 PM
er, your left, man's right...
Medira
08-16-2005, 09:30 AM
er, your left, man's right...Right, unless you're looking at it from the point of view of the leader. (At least that's how I understood it from Kitty's post) The leader is positioned to the left of the follower from the leader's point of view. From the follower's point of view, the leader is positioned to her right.
mamboqueen
08-18-2005, 08:51 PM
So, Kitty....any news??!! 8)
Chris Stratton
08-18-2005, 08:53 PM
Gossip activity and dance activity tend to be inversly proportional...
Katarzyna
08-18-2005, 08:54 PM
So, Kitty....any news??!! 8)
I think she got a partner :wink:
mamboqueen
08-18-2005, 08:56 PM
*LOL* Chris...I kinda heard straight from the horse's (cat's, as in Kit, not Kat's) mouth.
Chris Stratton
08-18-2005, 08:57 PM
In fact, I think she might be practicing at the moment... or at least she was when I left the studio.
diputs
08-18-2005, 09:01 PM
In fact, I think she might be practicing at the moment... or at least she was when I left the studio.
For a second I thought the joke was that Chris was her new partner.
I do not know the ballroom scene, but this thread has kept me amused for several days.
Katarzyna
08-18-2005, 09:01 PM
In fact, I think she might be practicing at the moment... or at least she was when I left the studio.
Good for her...
We love you kitty :kissme:
pygmalion
08-19-2005, 03:45 AM
Gossip activity and dance activity tend to be inversly proportional...
:lol: :lol: Words to live by ...
So would the KitKat Club spill its collective guts? :lol:
mamboqueen
08-19-2005, 07:07 AM
I will forever now think of them as an orange-wrapped chocolate bar!
Katarzyna
08-19-2005, 07:44 AM
kitkat club :lol: orange wrapped chocolate bar :lol:
mamboqueen
08-19-2005, 10:24 AM
Now don't go and do something silly like buy a new orange gown!
Kitty, here Kitty....donde esta?
pygmalion
08-19-2005, 10:24 AM
kitkat club :lol: orange wrapped chocolate bar :lol:
Yep. DF is just full of woise goise, today. (Sorry. That was my best attempt at a Three Stooges accent. A poor attempt, I admit, but I stand behind it. Did the best I could. :oops: :lol: )
Katarzyna
08-19-2005, 10:57 AM
Now don't go and do something silly like buy a new orange gown!
Kitty, here Kitty....donde esta?
Can't afford to :) had one already
completely off topic: it'd be nice to have an orange kitty.....
Kitty
08-19-2005, 11:05 AM
Gossip activity and dance activity tend to be inversly proportional...
so true :-)
but before I start my new job, I still got two weeks left for intensive gossiping... without a job I do have time for both :roll:
Kitty
08-19-2005, 11:29 AM
In fact, I think she might be practicing at the moment... or at least she was when I left the studio.
we practiced till late last night.
we went home after got too tired...
Kitty
08-19-2005, 11:31 AM
Now don't go and do something silly like buy a new orange gown!
Kitty, here Kitty....donde esta?
Kat's new gown has fruit on it. Is that ok? :lol:
Katarzyna
08-19-2005, 11:31 AM
Now don't go and do something silly like buy a new orange gown!
Kitty, here Kitty....donde esta?
Kat's new gown has fruit on it. Is that ok? :lol:
I think it's a flower..
fruit tree that's got flowers?
mamboqueen
08-19-2005, 11:34 AM
a flowering fruit tree....
BTW, I have an orange kitty.
Katarzyna
08-19-2005, 11:34 AM
pbase.com/izaak/image/40816919
Hm..not sure what is it...
BTW, I have an orange kitty.
really?? wow, an orange kitty!! is there a picture???
Katarzyna
08-19-2005, 11:35 AM
BTW, I have an orange kitty.
really?? wow, an orange kitty!! is there a picture???
Where do you get one?
it's pretty, but can't quite tell whether it's a fruit or flower.....i think it's flower is more plausible, having a fruit on your ballgown just sounds :shock: .....
mamboqueen
08-19-2005, 11:39 AM
Haven't you seen an orange kitty before?? Okay; maybe he's more like tan. He's not the brightest bulb, though. I have a bowl on the kitchen counter with a Japanese fighting fish and he drinks the water out of the bowl. You'd kinda think he'd go after the fish....but ....after months of my husband thinking the fish water is evaporating, we caught the cat in action. I think he's got an identity crisis.
He kinda looks like this:
http://community.webshots.com/album/244826240awQkxA
oh, that's hilarious!! no, i've never seen "orange" kitties b4 (by orange, i wasn't thinking about the tan coloured ones...)
wait, is he sparky or butterscotch??
Kitty
08-19-2005, 11:50 AM
how cute!
he IS very orange! :D
how cute!
he IS very orange! :D
Really?? he's orange??? i hope i'm not colour-blind....
Katarzyna
08-19-2005, 02:08 PM
it's pretty, but can't quite tell whether it's a fruit or flower.....i think it's flower is more plausible, having a fruit on your ballgown just sounds :shock: .....
Although I saw one white one with cherries that was kind of nice :)
i honestly prefer white ballgowns, they just really stands out! but as someone mentioned, it does visually add 1-2 sizes....
Kitty
08-19-2005, 02:16 PM
i honestly prefer white ballgowns, they just really stands out! but as someone mentioned, it does visually add 1-2 sizes....
I wouldn't mind that. It think I am getting too thin.
Kitty
08-19-2005, 03:39 PM
In fact, I think she might be practicing at the moment... or at least she was when I left the studio.
Good for her...
We love you kitty :kissme:
I feel :ladiesma:
Katarzyna
08-19-2005, 07:21 PM
i honestly prefer white ballgowns, they just really stands out! but as someone mentioned, it does visually add 1-2 sizes....
I wouldn't mind that. It think I am getting too thin.
you're not too thin you look nice. But as you know, the white gown for you just arrived in my house :)
since you mentioned it, do we get a sneak preview of the gown :wink: ??
Katarzyna
08-19-2005, 07:42 PM
Sorry, don't have the photos of HER gown..
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