This one is explicit and I may be banned for posting it

[milla]

When you girls are not wearing tights, do you typically have to shave "down there"

[macha]

I HATE hair removal of any kind down there, but I see no way around it sometimes. I'd be curious to hear pain-free, quick, effective ideas on HOW to get rid of it without that gods-awful growback. NOT COOL for close-fitting couture!

(don't worry- I'm normally the one who first assaults people for innuendo questions. This, IMO is a very valid quandry... even if it's REALLY awkward to discuss with malefolk around. Yet another case of "you bstrds have it so much easier with your danglybits! Grr!")

[milla]

I HATE hair removal of any kind down there, but I see no way around it sometimes. I'd be curious to hear pain-free, quick, effective ideas on HOW to get rid of it without that gods-awful growback. NOT COOL for close-fitting couture!

(don't worry- I'm normally the one who first assaults people for innuendo questions. This, IMO is a very valid quandry... even if it's REALLY awkward to discuss with malefolk around. Yet another case of "you bstrds have it so much easier with your danglybits! Grr!")

Didnt mean to offend you, just felt like being free and discussing our sexuallity. it does feel and llok better without it, just wanted to hear what my friends thought.

Milla

[milla]

I HATE hair removal of any kind down there, but I see no way around it sometimes. I'd be curious to hear pain-free, quick, effective ideas on HOW to get rid of it without that gods-awful growback. NOT COOL for close-fitting couture!

(don't worry- I'm normally the one who first assaults people for innuendo questions. This, IMO is a very valid quandry... even if it's REALLY awkward to discuss with malefolk around. Yet another case of "you bstrds have it so much easier with your danglybits! Grr!")

Didnt mean to offend you, just felt like being free and discussing our sexuallity. it does feel and llok better without it, just wanted to hear what my friends thought.

Sorry about making you feel angry, just wanted another opinion.

Milla

[Ms_Sunlight]

I "do" my bikini line, yes. You have to, if you're a lady who wants to wear a swimsuit, unless you're blessed with little body hair. It's part of my routine in the bath -- the razor hits the armpits, lower legs and bikini line.

A leotard doesn't show any more than a swimming costume.

[Joe]

Yet another case of "you bstrds have it so much easier with your danglybits! Grr!")
Who sez men don't shave? :shock:

[cocodrilo]

I shave when I wear a bikini. Gets pretty itchy when it grows back, so I don't shave unless I'm hittin' the beaches.

[pygmalion]

I "do" my bikini line, yes. You have to, if you're a lady who wants to wear a swimsuit, unless you're blessed with little body hair. It's part of my routine in the bath -- the razor hits the armpits, lower legs and bikini line.

A leotard doesn't show any more than a swimming costume.

Ditto all the above. 8) Never had a bikini wax, though. Can't imagine ... uh. No. Better not say what I was thinking. :oops: :lol:

[Purr]

I "do" my bikini line, yes. You have to, if you're a lady who wants to wear a swimsuit, unless you're blessed with little body hair. It's part of my routine in the bath -- the razor hits the armpits, lower legs and bikini line.

A leotard doesn't show any more than a swimming costume.

Ditto all the above. 8) Never had a bikini wax, though. Can't imagine ... uh. No. Better not say what I was thinking. :oops: :lol:

I can guess. :lol:

[MacMoto]

Ditto about the bikini line (I don't wear leotard since I'm a social salsa dancer, but I swim regularly), and can I say that this topic is NOT sexual at all, and you have nothing to worry about being banned, milla. 8) This is simply about something you need to consider re. dancewear/costume. A totally valid topic, in my opinion. We also have threads about male body hair and dancing buried somewhere in these forums.

[lynn]

Ditto all the above. 8) Never had a bikini wax, though. Can't imagine ... uh. No. Better not say what I was thinking. :oops: :lol:

i think the skin around bikini line might b too sensitive for bikini wax...for me personally, i could never use any wax products - the last time i used anything remotely similar - i ended up bleeding like mad!! P.S., girls, when you pull a hair off your skin, don't you start bleeding??? i've never understand how wax could possibly work....

[pygmalion]

No bleeding when I get waxed. Hmm... maybe you just have sensitive skin.

A lot of people swear by regular bikini waxing. I think I'd find the whole process rather embarrassing, so I shave instead. 8)

[pygmalion]

Oh, and btw, I don't find anything sexual about this topic at all. Shaving is a just normal part of grooming. *shrug* Have no fear, milla. 8)

[lynn]

i think i'll stick to shaving for the time being, ending up w/ swollen & broken skin's just not my thing! - anyone tried the depilatory cream/lotion? i heard constant shaving wil only make your hair grow faster/thicker, i wonder if there's any scientific backing??

[Sagitta]

Yet another case of "you bstrds have it so much easier with your danglybits! Grr!")
Who sez men don't shave? :shock: Yeah! :shock:

[Sagitta]

i think i'll stick to shaving for the time being, ending up w/ swollen & broken skin's just not my thing! - anyone tried the depilatory cream/lotion? i heard constant shaving wil only make your hair grow faster/thicker, i wonder if there's any scientific backing?? My sister has a device that she uses. I'll ask her...now thinking about it my housemate may be the one. I'll check with her when I get home today.

[dTas]

or you could do like my wife... she had laser treatment done. no hair growth, stubble, itching, etc etc... guaranteed for 5 yrs!

its kinda pricey but the convienence and lack of discomfort where worth it for her. she had her whole lower body and underarms done.

i think it was a great investment. :D

[lynn]

yep, laser treatment sounds great, but it's always the $$ issue! i guess i should really thank my mom, being asian, i don't have THAT big of a problem, i only run into the shaving problem probably once a month 8) ??

[SDsalsaguy]

Oh, and btw, I don't find anything sexual about this topic at all. Shaving is a just normal part of grooming. *shrug* Have no fear, milla. 8)
Exactly Jenn. While the topic may be explicit (and hence the re-name) it really isn't sexual (which might have gone beyond our PG-13 standars). :wink:

[leftfeetnyc]

Queen of hair removal here...

Bikini wax....Hurts like a.............(you get the point) the first time, but not because it's actually painful. It's awkward. Your skin gets pulled in ways that are not usual and you have a stranger down there pulling your hair out. Your're nervous and therefore tense. It is a very very odd experience. BUT, if you go to someone regularly, it's no different than visiting a doctor. It doesn't become less painful because you become numb to it, but because you are more comfortable after a few times and therefore more relaxed.

It's my favorite option. I go only for emergencies...i.e. beach season, performances so I'm not spending $30 every 6 weeks to have it done regularly. The first time can result in some missed hairs, make sure you're not shaving there for two weeks before hand...there needs to be something for the wax to grip and for all the hair to in a similar stage of growth cycle so that two days later you're not getting some resessive folicl activating.

Electrolysis...takes a while, costs a lot. If it were cheaper I would do it. It's permanent. People say it's painful? Eh, did have an area (not bikini line) done and fell asleep during it. It's more like sharp static electricity. You can shave inbetween treatments and only need two days of growth before a treatment. Most use topical anethetics too in case you have senstive skin.

Laser...see above, not as permanent.

Nair or Veet...They do nothing for me. Other people swear by them, nmy body just doesn't react. But they are the cheapes quickest ways to do it without the problem of a 5 o'clock shadow between the legs and stubble, which as mentioned before...is itchy.

[macha]

milla wrote:
macha wrote:
I HATE hair removal of any kind down there, but I see no way around it sometimes. I'd be curious to hear pain-free, quick, effective ideas on HOW to get rid of it without that gods-awful growback. NOT COOL for close-fitting couture!

(don't worry- I'm normally the one who first assaults people for innuendo questions. This, IMO is a very valid quandry... even if it's REALLY awkward to discuss with malefolk around. Yet another case of "you bstrds have it so much easier with your danglybits! Grr!")


Didnt mean to offend you, just felt like being free and discussing our sexuallity. it does feel and llok better without it, just wanted to hear what my friends thought.

Sorry about making you feel angry, just wanted another opinion.

Milla

Would you PLEASE read that again and point out exactly where you perceive me angry at you? Nobody likes to be misinterpreted, and I believe I was.

If you need it spelled out, no, I wasn't angry with you. Did anyone else think I was angry with her? Anyone? Bueller?

Do I really need to go back to school and learn how to write my own language, or are people just less-than-perceptive? This frustrates the hell out of me when I think I've spelled something out on a rudimentary level so that it can be understood, and then even that isn't.

(Can you tell I've had a bad day? A REALLY BAD DAY? Two words: Nationals Axed.)

[pygmalion]

Hmm... Not sure what to say, here, since I see both points of view.

Yes, macha, you do sometimes come across as upset or angry, before people get to know you, especially people who are conflict-averse. But, in the (how many?) months I've "known" you online, I think I've gotten a little bit of a feel for your personality, and you're a sweetie-pie (or is that a sweet baby colt? :wink: ) at heart, IMO. Or, at a minimum, just a regular person mostly without claws. :wink: :)


Online communication hasn't even begun to approach the person-to-person thing, in terms of understanding each other. So these things happen, IMHO. 8)


It seems like things are looking up for you at school, milla. At least the prof is looking out for you, now. 8)

And, as for you, macha... What's up with the competition prep?

[lynn]

hey, macha, no, you didn't sound mad, how about a cool glass of lemonade to cool you down?? OK, i think many of us just want to err on the side of caution (or apologize even when there's nothing to apologize for) esp for sensitive topics!

[dancersdreamland]

I "do" my bikini line, yes. You have to, if you're a lady who wants to wear a swimsuit, unless you're blessed with little body hair. It's part of my routine in the bath -- the razor hits the armpits, lower legs and bikini line.

A leotard doesn't show any more than a swimming costume.

Ditto all the above. 8) Never had a bikini wax, though. Can't imagine ... uh. No. Better not say what I was thinking. :oops: :lol:

You took the words directly out of my mouth...

[macha]

I won't threadjack any more than necessary, but there was a fumbling technicality on the rulebooks that prevented me from entering because of stalling a horse on-grounds.

Yes, I think I'll go find that lemonade now!

I'm tempted to post a pic of the allroombe eaverbe again for this thread, LOL (I won't, I promise)

[pygmalion]

I won't threadjack any more than necessary, but there was a fumbling technicality on the rulebooks that prevented me from entering because of stalling a horse on-grounds.

Yes, I think I'll go find that lemonade now!

I'm tempted to post a pic of the allroombe eaverbe again for this thread, LOL (I won't, I promise)

So the pre-comp stress is out of the picture now? Is that good or bad, in your view?


And thanks for leaving the allroombe photo out. *giggle* You crack me up. No kidding. You really crack me up. 8)

[macha]

Yes, and what's better, now I can get the private lessons and double groups on mondays that I've wanted for ... since I started... and those nifty little danceybooties on ebay- the meshy ones with the cuban heel that look like supadance? Sweet.

Oh- and that pink technibond ring sz 9..

and that suede-seat black saddle...


and.... :roll:

[cocodrilo]

I've had electrolysis(where they stick a needle in your hair follicle and zap it with a current of elecricity) for my eyebrows and it is a very safe and effective way of permanent hair removal. My mom had her brows, legs, armpits and "moustache" done. I don't think she had here bikini line done, but many women have electrolysis down there. If I would be wearing a leotard on a regular basis I would DEFINITELY go in for electrolysis for my bikini area. No more shaving, tweezing, ingrown hairs, skin rashes- can you imagine? I'm actually surprised none of you dancers have had this done...

[milla]

Yet another case of "you bstrds have it so much easier with your danglybits! Grr!")
Who sez men don't shave? :shock:
tHE BASTRDS YOU ARE REFERING TO , we carry their children, and they make us feel good if youre in love with them. I know this is not a sex forum but you have now turned it into one. We love men, we all know it. THey make us feel secure, sexy and satisfied. If youve been hurt by one (like we all have) I have no problem with refering to them as bastrds. I am a woman, I like men. Ive been with several men but havent found the right one to start a family with, but I am shopping.

[pygmalion]

:? Huh? I'm so confused. :? 8)

[GalacticDancer44M]

:lol:

[Sagitta]

Yet another case of "you bstrds have it so much easier with your danglybits! Grr!")
Who sez men don't shave? :shock:
tHE BASTRDS YOU ARE REFERING TO , we carry their children, and they make us feel good if youre in love with them. I know this is not a sex forum but you have now turned it into one. We love men, we all know it. THey make us feel secure, sexy and satisfied. If youve been hurt by one (like we all have) I have no problem with refering to them as bastrds. I am a woman, I like men. Ive been with several men but havent found the right one to start a family with, but I am shopping.

If macha meant anything but affectionate use of that word you may be sure that us men would have jumped on her. On df we do not allow nonsense for long. :wink: But, it is sweet for you to do so. I really don't want the semantics of this comment or the responses quoted here debated to death. We already did a bit of this several posts ago on this very thread.Let's just move on, ok? Let's simply talk about shaving and leave it at that. Interesting stuff. Me I just shower, and lather, and shave. So, this is really good stuff to learn about.

:twisted: :lol:

[leftfeetnyc]

I've had electrolysis(where they stick a needle in your hair follicle and zap it with a current of elecricity) for my eyebrows and it is a very safe and effective way of permanent hair removal. My mom had her brows, legs, armpits and "moustache" done. I don't think she had here bikini line done, but many women have electrolysis down there. If I would be wearing a leotard on a regular basis I would DEFINITELY go in for electrolysis for my bikini area. No more shaving, tweezing, ingrown hairs, skin rashes- can you imagine? I'm actually surprised none of you dancers have had this done...

Eh! I 've done it! Not down there, but I'm not in a leotard doing swing. I love it am so glad I had electrolysis done. I wish I could afford to get more areas done (as a Lady, I'm not saying where) as it definitly has made life nicer.

Also nice, no grey shading and 5 o'clock shadows. The new ingrown hairs as mentioned is great! No razer burn or worring when you go out whether or not you shaved and if someone will notice. Depending where you get it, it will kill sweat glands and cut down on sweating too.

[macha]

milla, you have a PM. Check it after you have assembled necessary first aid accoutrements. This is for you:

http://www.tiaratown.com/r22.JPG

DF, consider yourself lucky, but you might still want to wear goggles- blood spatters some distance.

Update- a lot of good it did.. Is English your first language?

[Joe]

I think girlfriend needs to seek some professional help... :roll:

[cocodrilo]

Great to hear about your good electrolysis, Leftfeetnyc! I would like to get my bikini line and legs done, but I tried it over here and they are using equipment leftover from WWI and I got some pretty bad burns. Not to mention it is a dozen times the cost of that in the states(Grrr!)

[cocodrilo]

Macha, you clack me up! :lol:

[leftfeetnyc]

My suggestion to anyone interested in getting electrolysis....

Ask around for someone.. In NYC many places have signs in the windows that they do it or you can look it up on the web. Instead, I had asked my doctor (who I trust very much) about a dermatologist thinking she could do it after removing a scar. She didn't but recommended someone who would and I love my electrolysist. You'd never find her place on your own although she is on the internet. It's nice having a recommendation to back her up though.

Skin, baby smooth.

[cocodrilo]

Good advice and true about the sweating(so I hear). Must reduce the risk of body odor, too.

[BrookeErin]

for those of you who have done electrolysis... and all who have please speak up

Does it last forever?
Does it hurt?
Is it expensive?
There is Brazillian waxing, but Brazillian electrolysis?

I like my hair long and thick, but only on my head. I've tried lots of hair removal techniques. I've got it down to a routine, but to get rid of it completely... wouldn't that be heaven?

[cocodrilo]

for those of you who have done electrolysis... and all who have please speak up

Does it last forever?
Does it hurt?
Is it expensive?
There is Brazillian waxing, but Brazillian electrolysis?

I like my hair long and thick, but only on my head. I've tried lots of hair removal techniques. I've got it down to a routine, but to get rid of it completely... wouldn't that be heaven?
Does it last forever? Yes. The sam hair will grow out again, but it will be thinner and then the follicle will finally "die" and hair willnot grow out anymore. When undergoing electrolysis, you may have to go back several times even after your treatment is finished to yank some "stragglers", but it is forever(I LOVE my eyebrows! No pencil, tweezing or cutting. EVER!)

It is a tolerable pain. Certain parts of your face or body are more sensitive than others, but it's much less painful say than the dentist for example.

When I was going (to a littel studio in the San Francisco Bay area) I believe it was $14 a treatment. I think I went a total of 7 times for my eyebrows. I did this when I was back home for the summer. On my one-month vacation, I would go every 10 days or so. Did the same the next year. I highly recommend it. My mom LOVES the job she had done on her "mustache", legs, pits and brows!

[lynn]

how is electrolysis different from laser?? from what i heard, laser seems too be much expensive. coco, $14 sounds EXTREMELY cheap! i thought electrolysis always run around 3 digits minimum!

[cocodrilo]

coco, $14 sounds EXTREMELY cheap! i thought electrolysis always run around 3 digits minimum!
If it's running you 3 digits, you are getting ripped off. I had my treatments at a tiny studio that was owned/operated by a friend of my mom's (I believe she normally charged $20 per visit) and the session lasted less than 30 minutes. This was also over 10 years ago, so naturally the prices have gone up to adjust to the economy.

I would suggest calling around and checking prices and also asking friends & getting recommendations. I do not know about laser treatments.

[pygmalion]

Hmm. I thought I'd heard something about danger of skin discoloration, depending on your skin-tone. I might be getting electrolysis mixed up with something else, though. May I'll google later, if I don't get super lazy. Even more super lazy, that is. :)

[cocodrilo]

Hmm. I thought I'd heard something about danger of skin discoloration, depending on your skin-tone. I might be getting electrolysis mixed up with something else, though. May I'll google later, if I don't get super lazy. Even more super lazy, that is. :)
Skin discoloration? Maybe temporarily, from electrolysis. Maybe you were thinking about tattoo removal. :lol:

[lynn]

tattoo removal? that falls under the laser category... but usually the side effects are mild and generally aren't permanent.

[pygmalion]

Is it possible to remove a tattoo without leaving behind ugly stuff? I've only seen one tattoo that had been removed, and the guy's arm was very disfigured. Of course, that was a long time ago. I assume laser surgery techniques have advanced a lot since then. :?

[Sagitta]

Yup. THings have definitely improved nowadays, but still this is one reason why one shoudl think carefully before doing something that permanent.

[pygmalion]

Yep. Still plan to get another tattoo or two, though. Heck. It may be ugly when I get old, but at least I'll be able to say I had a life. :wink: :lol:

[cocodrilo]

Yes, but one can also have a life without things like tattoos, body piercing or breast augmentation. :wink:

[pygmalion]

True. But to each his/her own. 8) :)

[pygmalion]

Hey. Wait a second. Since when did breast augmentation get into the same category as piercing and tattoos? :shock: Uhh... I have to say I disagree with that categorization. Last time I checked, breast augmentation was fairly complex cosmetic surgery of fairly recent vintage. Piercing and tattoos are lightweight operations that have been around for centuries. Somehow I don't think Anne Bonny whatever, the 17th century female pirate, had breast augmentation... although I could be wrong. But tattoos? Maybe. 8)

To each his own, but uhhh... :?

[cocodrilo]

In piercing, you can let the holes close up and in breast augmentation, you can have it corrected or have the inserts removed but if you are doing graffiti on your body by way of tattoo there is NO removing that. Yes, there IS laser removal, but it leaves a disfiguring scar. The larger the tattoo removed, the more obvious and hideous the scar area.

Tattoos are kind of "trendy" here at the moment and my college girls are asking my advise on whether they should get one. I simply offer these 2 words of advise; NO WAY!

[pygmalion]

Yeah. I'd give similar advice on tattoos -- make sure you know what you're doing, because, either way, it's permanent. :? Still. We all have the right to choose. *shrug* 8)

[cocodrilo]

If the student is really adamant on getting a tattoo, then I suggest he or she try one of those temporary ones, and to see how they like it. Some people may be very happy with that dolphin on their ankle, or the dragon spiraling down their arm, but if they get tired of it, they are going to have to live with it. (BTW, laser tattoo removal is practically unheard of over here. If the service is available, and I'm sure it is in the major cities in Japan, it would be very expensive.)

[jenn]

:shock: at this thread!




:lol:
i love when people are bold!

[Sagitta]

:shock: at this thread!

:lol:
i love when people are bold!

Meaning you like body modifications?

[randomMysh]

Ditto all the above. 8) Never had a bikini wax, though. Can't imagine ... uh. No. Better not say what I was thinking. :oops: :lol:

i think the skin around bikini line might b too sensitive for bikini wax...for me personally, i could never use any wax products - the last time i used anything remotely similar - i ended up bleeding like mad!! P.S., girls, when you pull a hair off your skin, don't you start bleeding??? i've never understand how wax could possibly work....

Actually, for me it's the other way around. Shaving leads to major irritation that lasts for days and days while it's all growing out, while the only waxing side effect is very mild tenderness and redness that goes away after a couple of hours. It really depends on how it's done, though.
It was kind of scary and awkward the first time around, but it's really not that bad. One trick is to go shortly after your period, because that's when you're least sensitive to pain. Supposedly. :roll:

[DancingMommy]

Macha, you clack me up! :lol:

supplies, supplies....

[pygmalion]

Macha, you clack me up! :lol:

supplies, supplies....

And the wild and uncontrolled pun wins the day. 8) :lol:

[jenn]

:shock: at this thread!

:lol:
i love when people are bold!

Meaning you like body modifications?

lol...i was only referring to the first couple of posts because i didnt read all the other ones... :oops:

as for the other stuff, i have 2 (technically 3) tatoos. i agree that one should reeeeally know that they want it before getting it. my "third" tattoo was to cover up my 2nd one. :oops:
i love the other one though. 8)

[Joe]

What--you covered up "I love Biff" when you broke up with him? ;)

[cocodrilo]

Macha, you clack me up! :lol:

supplies, supplies....

And the wild and uncontrolled pun wins the day. 8) :lol:
Tomorrow is the race for the new upper house in the Japanese Parlaiment. It's going to be a big erection. (That's what they say, anyhow!)

[Rosa]

If you think I'm answering that question, you're bonkers! :shock:

A woman needs to have some mystery about her! 8) :D

Rosa :)

[macha]

You know what's really fun to do? Put hair extensions (that match your color, or not, either way works) through the crotch of your shorts so they reach almost to your knees, frizz 'em up a little bit, go to Wal-Mart at 3 am, and buy a chainsaw and two cans of shaving gel. :D

[cocodrilo]

So how many chainsaws do you have in your shed from doing this Macha? Thinking of opening up a Home Depot, maybe? :lol:

[pygmalion]

If you think I'm answering that question, you're bonkers! :shock:

A woman needs to have some mystery about her! 8) :D

Rosa :)

:lol: :lol:

[fascination]

I think I'm just going to say that I think it's prudent to keep things tidy down there :roll: