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chook
09-06-2005, 05:16 PM
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dTas
09-06-2005, 05:40 PM
yes, it can be done. my partner and i have choreographed this dip in several of our routines.

i rarely do dips on unsuspecting partners though. an upright dip is enough, i think. it shows control without endangering.

Sagitta
09-06-2005, 07:19 PM
yes, it can be done. my partner and i have choreographed this dip in several of our routines.

i rarely do dips on unsuspecting partners though. an upright dip is enough, i think. it shows control without endangering. Yes and yes.

HF
09-07-2005, 02:33 AM
What is an upright dip?

Dave
09-07-2005, 03:37 AM
Though salsa is sometimes difficult for me, one thing that I love doing is the dips. I love to dip girls. But I was thinking...if the girl does not weigh much, like say up to 110 pounds, is it possible to actually lift her off the ground during the dip?
Yes, it's possible. Is it a good idea? Not in my book (excluding specific practice for aerials or a performance). If you want to lift the girl, learn how to do it properly - just hoisting her in the air is unsafe, bad etiquette, and usually looks awful.

Ms_Sunlight
09-07-2005, 03:53 AM
I think my response would be "aaargh, what the heck do you think you're doing?"

Seriously, when you follow you are still carrying your own weight therefore still in control of yourself, even when dipped. To be unexpectedly hoisted off your feet would be very disconcerting. The follower is likely to fight you or panic and someone will get hurt, and it certainly won't make people want to dance with you again.

dTas
09-07-2005, 09:53 AM
What is an upright dip?

an upright dip would simply be putting the lady into one arm or the other and stopping right there. its like starting a full blown dip but stopping right at the point where the lady can no longer hold her own weight. that way she's still in conrol of her balance.

i think it looks much better since both partners are able to show their strength and balance. :D

heartgrl2k
09-07-2005, 10:03 AM
Personally, I hate being dipped, mostly because in my experience, few men do it correctly. By which I mean someone ends up getting hurt - me.

Recently, I was asked to dance by someone who I saw doing several dips throughout his 'routine' with other dancers - in a social atmosphere. He asked me to dance and I asked him NOT to dip me. I told him that I didn't like it. On top of that, I have back problems and am several months pregnant. Needless to say, he felt he was an expert and proceeded to dip me several times throughout the dance. I won't be dancing with him again.

I'm fine with the 'upright dip' as described in earlier posts, but dips are not as easy as they look, and if not done correctly, not only do they not look good, you can hurt the person you're dancing with.

Shooshoo
09-07-2005, 10:42 AM
I personally love dips, but it really depends on who's doing it. It's no fun if the leader is not that experienced, is not equal in physical strength, or if I haven't danced with alot.

So you have to be careful who you try it with, cause I also resist dips many times.

I have also been lifted in dips, which I enjoyed (but I just love dips), but again the ones who do it are usually experienced and stronger than myself.

chook
09-07-2005, 12:14 PM
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Medira
09-07-2005, 12:49 PM
If you have a strong hand and good balance, it shouldn't be dangerous or difficult. Of course I would ask the girl before hand if you she wanted to try.Ah, but you're forgetting one thing here. Her. If she isn't expecting it, her balance isn't necessarily going to be there. She may panic and bail. If she loses her posture, it doesn't matter how strong you are, you're probably hitting the floor.

cierre boca y baile
09-07-2005, 01:11 PM
Though salsa is sometimes difficult for me, one thing that I love doing is the dips. I love to dip girls. But I was thinking...if the girl does not weigh much, like say up to 110 pounds, is it possible to actually lift her off the ground during the dip? There are actually quite a few girls in my salsa class who are really small (and don't weigh much) so I was thinking about trying it. If she only weighs up to 110 pounds, if should be possible to lift her off the ground and hold her with my right hand. Has anyone here every tried to do that?

I do this with a few partners. Some weigh even a little more than 110. The ones that weigh that or less, I actually try to lift them to my chest then raise them at the waist to a kind of seated position as I start to spin and slowly let them slide down my body back to the ground.

I only do this with girls I know like it and with a very clear area on the dance floor, but it is one of my favorite moves and isn't real difficult.

luh
09-07-2005, 01:37 PM
yes, it can be done. my partner and i have choreographed this dip in several of our routines.

i rarely do dips on unsuspecting partners though. an upright dip is enough, i think. it shows control without endangering.

yes - dips just as long as they can hold each other - or the other one knows the move already really well, and knows that you can do it too. And even than - never without warning.
luh

aimerrouge
09-07-2005, 02:44 PM
Though salsa is sometimes difficult for me, one thing that I love doing is the dips. I love to dip girls. But I was thinking...if the girl does not weigh much, like say up to 110 pounds, is it possible to actually lift her off the ground during the dip? There are actually quite a few girls in my salsa class who are really small (and don't weigh much) so I was thinking about trying it. If she only weighs up to 110 pounds, if should be possible to lift her off the ground and hold her with my right hand. Has anyone here every tried to do that?

You should ALWAYS ask before engaging a lady in any activity in which she may get hurt.

It's presumptuous, and often wrong, to assume such behavior is OK. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should.

If the lady agrees, however, go for it!!! :D

kdogg
09-07-2005, 03:01 PM
Doing dips is fun if both the parties involved know what they're doing. At clubs where your dancing space is limited it's better to stay away from it. I've seen a few guys who would do complicated dips in the middle of the crowded floor, putting themselves and other neighbors in danger.

dTas
09-07-2005, 03:20 PM
i second that! no dangerous moves or ariels when on a social dance floor. you never know who might be moving in the path of a flying leg or arm or foot or even head.

even deep dips can be dangerous if the dip-ee decides to kick up a foot for counter balance.