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Discussion in 'Salsa' started by maxcinevanwyk, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. maxcinevanwyk

    maxcinevanwyk New Member

    Salsa is realy exiting for me as an individual when dancing i reflect all my emotions and allow the music to take conrtol of my emotions.I feel that salsa is a very relaxing form of dance. I have noticed that majority of younger people enjoy dancing salsa.Is salsa a dance style for the younger people or is it a dance style for all ages? I would like to know more about salsa like its entire background and the specific music played when dancing to salsa.Does one have to commit to a dance class to learn how to dance salsa or does it come natural when dancing?
  2. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    Hi Maxcine, welcome to DF

    That depends were you are based. In latin america it´s a dance for older people. In west europe, were I come from, people in their late 30s dance salsa, in east europe it´s a dance for those under 30.

    Salsa is an umbrella term for a handful of caribbean dances and music styles. The name salsa dates back to the 70s. Radio announcers in New York coined that term back then for any kind of music with some latin american influence. Salsa got west african and european influences. Cuba which is one place of origin banned the word salsa for political reasons and put his own words (and styles) Son, then Casino, now Timba at place instead.

    Cuban Casino Style (elegant, men do more shines than women, circling) is danced to slow and mid-paced Timba music

    Despelote Cubano (rather not partnered) danced to Reggaetón and fast Timba music.

    Son Cubano (the mother of all salsa styles) is danced to Son montuno lento, or Bolero-Son

    New York style (fast, acrobatic, on the spot) is danced to Salsa dura, fast paced Son montuno, or Mambo

    Los Angeles style (rather for stage, mixture from Casino and NY style) music s.o.

    Cumbia Colombiana (rather folkloristal style) is danced to Cumbia music

    Salsa puertoriqueña (an off shoot of NY style) music s.o.

    It comes naturally, of course. But classes may help a lot.
  3. DanceMentor

    DanceMentor Administrator

    From my experience where you see mostly Salsa danced, it will be a younger crowd. However, there are many factors. In some dance communities or studios the dance is more included with other dances. A more "social" studio will usually have more salsa as opposed to a more "competitive" studio. Then of course there can be some cultural influences too where salsa is more popular with everyone. Where I am dancing sometimes, it is a Chinese area, and there are people that have danced for years but don't know how to Salsa. Different parts of the city have different affinities.
  4. Rosaay Bianca

    Rosaay Bianca New Member

    Hi hun, I am from the UK and the groups that i have attended are of all different ages, I have seen university students to the elderly. I think people want a hobby and salsa is theirs. So it makes no difference. Just keep enjoying as you are doing. good luck!!!
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  5. tangotime

    tangotime Well-Known Member

    A few corrections...

    In the States, salsa is danced not only by older folks; in one major city, for e.g. has a very large younger contingent ( 22-35 ) in its clubs.It really depends upon the nite and the location.And as to S. America, the dominant salsa haven is Colombia, where salsa of all styles, is danced even by children. The ages are spread over a wide area.

    And "Rumba" is the umbrella term that, ALL the dances come under.
    Ive never come across any latinos ,who use anything but the name of the dance, they dance,and in matter of fact, they will correct you !. .

    Casino..Shines are not really that evident in this style, in fact, no spins and more of a "walked " style ( on "1" ). The variety is limited, and, as it name implies,originated in the dance Casinos ( dance halls in Cuba ) as space, being limited, was/ is danced in a close hold .Also,its NOT danced to Timba; it was being danced long before Timba was invented, to other cuban musical styles.

    Son.. there are 2 musical styles present in Son.. traditional and modern. Son music, like salsa has gone under a transformation. I have numerous albums of modern day Son whic I play for DJing and teach to .

    NY style.. I dont think acrobatic fits this style what so ever ( thats more LA ; NY style, is a blend of Cuban and PR ( what I teach and dance , among other styles ) .Musically, it does have a range of tempos, from Montunos to Guaguancos ( old time mambo had a lot of Guaguanco style music ). It was the P.Rs after all, who changed the mambo of old ,to its present day format, NOT the Cubanos, ergo NY style is predominantly PR .

    And, Cumbia is a totally different dance and should not be included in the salsa genre. It belongs with Danzon, Merengue , Bachata and Bomba etc, which all are indigenous styles .

    And, Colombia does have its own Salsa style, born in Cali, mainly danced by the younger generation , due to its speed.

    One last word about Timba; the majority consensus among most dancers is.. Timba does not sit well, primarily due to the lack of its unusual rhythmical composition. Being heavily percussion driven, it doesnt allow for the styles most are taught /dance, to fit that style of music .

    Its been around going on 30 yrs, and has made little headway into the mainstream .
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2013
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  6. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    Theoretically, but not practically: leave the protected places and seek out the venues in our towns were latinos and africanos usually dance: the amount of cumbia played very often is above traditional salsa.

    I know, but timba still is popular dance music. You will not find cubans that would freely dance what you are teaching. (With the exception of money and for tourists)
  7. tangotime

    tangotime Well-Known Member

    But I did. I spent nigh on 50 yrs dancing/teaching and be-friending latinos in many major US metro areas ,from NY to LA and Miami to Atlanta, and Timba was hardly ever played.
    I cant speak for Cuba, but from those that have travelled there recently, they say Timba is not high on anyones dance list, even in the outlying areas .Of course, there are Timba bands there, but they are still well behind the Salsa " tide ". One is more likely to find Son.

    As to Timba being popular, hardly outside of Cuba, according to many of the DJs who play all over the world, posting on S. Forums.
    Oddly enough, one country that has a strong base is Sweden .

    Popular to my way of thinking, is when I hear it played in clubs , ( and I dont mean the odd song ) on a regualr basis, at socials.
    Im DJing one tonite, but, I will not be playing any Timba, only Dura.
  8. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    Timba seems to attract quite the opposite clientele than cumbia. The first is rather more academically educated while the latter is popular among working migrants.

    Been there in october last year: Most people simply dance cubaton, reggaeton, despelote. Only saw salsa (casino, guracha, and the like) when danced or taught for tourists. Think it got the same status/significance as ballroom got for us.

    The dancers will thank you for this!
  9. tangotime

    tangotime Well-Known Member

    States-side latinos are fond of Cumbia ( I respect that, butnot my choice of dance ) .
    The salsaton and most of the same ilk, is seldom danced by the older and more knowledgeable dancecers . The latino Pop. is very diverse in the states, so it kind highlites , the various cultures thru dance choices in many clubs .I kinda like that

    I hope you are correct about tonite !.. I think it may take time to build .It is an excellent location, and the later event is well established.
    Update to follow..
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  10. Steve Pastor

    Steve Pastor Moderator Staff Member

    Speaking of cumbia (which I know nothing about)...
    I DID work on some hip hop moves when they were playing "Thrift Shop" at a country western place.
    Heard about this Thrift Shop / Cumbia remix this morning.

    Cumbia is currently quite popular in South America, they said. I found it interesting, too, that when Peru had an oil boom, they ended up with a mix with surf/psychodelia guitar because of the poeple who went down there from the oil producing states in the US.

  11. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    ok, there actually are some traces of cumbia in it.

    But here´s the original

  12. tarika

    tarika New Member

    I love salsa. Eye contact ,lag and hand movement play important role in salsa.

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