Salsa > Aspects of the dance

Discussion in 'Salsa' started by ticolora, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. ticolora

    ticolora Member

    Although the question is generic and applies to most dances, I would like you to assume Salsa social couple dance as the context, if it becomes important.

    My goal is to identify all the aspects that are important to the dance, or to put it differently contribute to the skill.

    I would like to eventually come up with a map that I can use to identify areas that need improvement. I also want to use it to compare my skill to that of the others (because I am shallow and insecure).

    The end goal is to come up with a curriculum to follow for my private lessons. Somehow I feel that every teacher I was with doesn't really have a plan. We start with "what do you want to work on?" and then we work on that, but I don't think I am competent to make that call.

    You would think that such a list would be self-evident, but as I learn more about the dance, I discover more areas I am ignorant about (ignorantly incompetent).

    Here is what I am aware of so far, I want to keep this in a brainstorm format, to make sure we don't overlook something. I will then ask questions for specific items:

    stay on beat
    stay on phrase
    anticipate hits and breaks
    express mood of the music in the dance


    mistakes recovery

    judge and adjust for follows level
    spin balance

    asking for a dance
    handling rejection
    small talk
    keep follow comfortable

    Inb4: if I could get a better teacher - I would, so far I wasn't able to. Which is why I want to take this in my own hands.
  2. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    You need to see the forest from the trees. You will suffer the paralysis of over analysis very quickly

    For example anticipate hits and breaks alone will take years of music listening and study as well as a modest study of music theory. And that's only one thing on your huge list

    Get a syllabus and learn that. The rest will come then crush technique
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  3. tangotime

    tangotime Well-Known Member

    This, sums up ALL your problems/desires.

    You need to be aware that, many salsa " teachers?" are NOT trained in the deeper aspects of dance .

    Promotion to congresses etc for one ex., are based upon HOW they dance , and not always what they know ( other than inculcating their audience with long groups ) . And as this exists, then one may extrapolate their methods to teachers who attend, and subsequently, to the general public.

    It takes multiple years of prof. training to acquire the necessary skills, to produce a good dance product .
    I could give you chapter and verse, about studios/teachers I have encountered over the years, who have been "fed " false "dance" information , so your dilemma is not uncommon .

    There are good teachers out there, ya just need to look farther afield .
  4. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    Elegance is missing, also knowledge of current and historic cds and music productions....
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  5. twnkltoz

    twnkltoz Well-Known Member

    Fluidity of movement. Body action. Correct use of feet and legs. Control. Styling. Articulation of joints. Posture. Spinning. Sabor (I think that's what salseros call it).
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  6. IndyLady

    IndyLady Well-Known Member

    100% agree with this. Especially bolded.
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  7. tangotime

    tangotime Well-Known Member

    "Sabor " is an undefined quality, which really cannot be taught .
  8. twnkltoz

    twnkltoz Well-Known Member

    Well, he wanted to list all the aspects.
  9. ticolora

    ticolora Member

    I do want all the aspects. No bad ideas in a brainstorm.

    shines, dip, moves for hits and breaks, 4 and 8 feet styling, turns (different types, including spins).
  10. HieroglyphicChi

    HieroglyphicChi New Member

    Performance quality, creativity, repetition, drops, dips, jumps, poses...

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