*laugh* i actually thought it would be more likely to object to the description of the pivoted ocho as "single axis turn, then stepping straight". I completely agree with you - when i was writing this i found it difficult to decide between describing this theoretical extreme as being part of the boleo family or part of the voleo family, but i settled onto voleo because (for me) boleo is more associated with "interrupting/reversing impulse" and voleo is more associated with "play with the free leg" - if your first association with voleo is "off axis move/change in posture" then this will not describe what i was thinking. As i said, this is more or less a theoretical description of the most extreme endpoints of the vast variety of ochos possible - even the most ardent defender of the pivoted ocho will usually step diagonal/cross and, and not only use the pivot, and even the most extreme crossed ocho defender will - as you have pointed out - gain more space than just the crossing behind will generate. And i think most leaders and followers are aware that the ocho they are dancing is somewhat of a hybrid - e.g. when i dance crossed ochos i tend to dissocate a little bit to cover more ground (which takes them at least a little bit into the realm of pivoted ochos).