Yes, yes, slotmonkey, we are here to dicuss things. So dicusss away. RickRS, welcome to my world. I've been perplexed by this for a number of years. We've even had people argue here that there is no push in the Sugar Push. This is not how it was taught originally, as far as I can tell. Current vocabulary does not seem to include, or at least seems to frown upon the words "Push" and "Pull", and emphasizes "body lead". And, you guys tell me, do teachers still say, "The woman owns the slot?" If she doesn't walk forward assertively, where does the compression come from? I had never been exposed to the "six count basic" where the woman changes direction pretty much because that's what she does, rather than because of a "Push". Now, I've decided it's part of the problem. I've even had "heavy couple weight" partners who would not walk in enough to create the compression. Hutchinson wrote in 1998 that "heavy couple weight" is part of the "Classic" style, while "modern" emphasized spins, etc. Maybe ask your teachers about this and see what they say. I'm curious about what others of you hear, too.