Oh it's no sacred cow, but I see no reason to adopt an understood Argentine term and re-purpose it in order to acquire some credence seemingly for marketing and promotional reasons. No I obviously don't dance with leaders and, since you don't lead as far as I know, your opinion will be different to mine. I have danced alongside some leaders from Europe, and watched and seen video. Nor do the people behind the so-called "Milonguero" festivals teach nor dance in BsAs style. If that's dancing give me BsAs style dance of the rhythm and the music every time. It depends which side of the dance you are on. Same answer I've not given Andreas. You can work it out. Actually all of this travelling circus - oops sorry, festival - is rather sad. You mean we have to travel thousands of miles all around Europe to get a decent dance experience? I actually think it would be rather sad to have to keep travelling to Buenos Aires for a decent tango experience but if that was the only alternative, BsAs would win every time. What we should be trying to achieve is the social tango experience of a dance to the music and a wide variety of dance skills mixing empathatically on the dance floor. Regrettably I don't expect that to happen widely anytime soon. But there are places. If I didn't contradict, I didn't intend to contradict. I thought it was clear already . . . . . . . that it was a comparison based on personal experience, of both. Just as yours is but from another perspective. To be clear, I haven't pretended that Buenos Aires milongas are perfect, nor are all the dancers. It is a social dance after all and that alone implies a wide range of skill. You are advocating a self-selecting super-tier of travelling tangueros/as (I refuse to use milongueros/as) for Europeans attending so-called festivals, I am not.