General Dance Discussion > Comp Results of DFers

Discussion in 'General Dance Discussion' started by elisedance, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. Rugby

    Rugby Member

    Good luck at the comp. ED. We found that presentation is big in Quebec, even over technique. Guess because they are more artistic there then here. Make everything big and you will do well.
     
  2. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    Thanks R: we'll be very happy indeed if we make the finals...
     
  3. danceronice

    danceronice Well-Known Member

    Whoo. Well, not pleased with Standard (a bunch of seconds--only two people in the heat, but at least the other person was from our studio) but on about six lessons' worth of standard, I'll take it. Less pleased with Smooth--mostly uncontested and firsts in all that were but I'm all over the place and both VWaltzes (Smooth and Standard) are disaster areas. NEEDS WORK. I think I need to just do Viennese in a lesson over and over and over until I learn how to move my @$$ and cross my feet properly or until I get so dizzy I fall down, whichever comes first.

    Happier with Rhythm--three uncontested but they both looked decent, if not GREAT, anyway, and won the other two. Rhumba and Bolero in particular looked a great deal better than they felt when I watched the video tonight.

    Most valuable lesson: at a one-day comp where there is no food in the venue itself, plan ability to get food more careful or you will end up headachey and tired and cranky by the time your last heats roll around.
     
  4. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    Hi COI. Congrats on getting out there - just remember that even though there were only two in the heat, there were another 10 in the audience who were too chicken to compete - you beat them :) (hey, thats positive thinking OK?;)).

    Good point on the food by the way. I always carry a chocolate bar for emergencies - it double duties as a food and a pickmeup! What makes it worse is that many comps have a gorgeous spread set out for the judges and admin that the competitors have to walk by! Our usual local comp venue has a bar stocked with WWS - the worlds worst sandwiches.... fortunately, up the road there is a terrific greek diner-like place where you can get great chicken souvelaki ...
     
  5. tangotime

    tangotime Well-Known Member

    Yes they are ( on occasion ) .

    Actually, there are several of us who have been D.D. at Freds, as well as A/M ,and also qualif. as examiners in the American styles, plus Fellowships in the Intern. divisions .

    I would admit however- it would be an onerous task to say the least ( beyond Br. level )
     
  6. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    But what would happen if the pro said - 'this is standard syllabus at the Joe Blogg studio(s)'. With the wording as it is, it eems to me you would have to cave....
     
  7. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    I know exactly what you mean, Cashmere. :D
     
  8. etp777

    etp777 Active Member

    I've always wondered about that myself. Sure makes the Closed comps easier in that respect (though some of envigilators we've had are known for how tough they are in that respect). Actually, one we've had locally for FA comps also does it for open comps. He rather intimidates me, and don't know him personally, otherwise I might ask. I know he was enviligator for Harvest moon here, wonder how he does it.
     
  9. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    Mixed results in this comp (MD). Placed in middle of pack in silver scholarship (5/9), but managed a 3rd place in the dancesport series. Having some critical issues with managing fatigue during competition...becoming tense and then instinctively responding with a defensive "contraction" to try to keep up. But then I don't release, and everything goes to hades in a handbasket. We're going to be doinh major rounds in practice from now on.

    On a positive,I reminded myself that we've jumped into these waters with little preparation, and we're still doing lead & follow. As frustrated as I was with my performance, I still managed it on improvisation.

    Hoping next weekend's comp goes better...
     
  10. tangotime

    tangotime Well-Known Member

    Having judged hundreds of comps in the states for many yrs, local and natinal , never had a problem with distinction at the Bronze level-- pretty much all know, NO continuity styling in the smooth dances, and in the rhythm, there is a general consensus in the lower levels what constitutes Br.


    If any dissention at all --- it would
    be some of the crossover figures n Silv/ Gold, but that has not really been a major problem .
     
  11. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    Congrats Sam! Remember, comps are a part of an evolution, you can't take the results from one by itself as a real measure - even within one comp you can get amazingly different results (qv our last one!). So much of it is getting comfortable with being out there (and that comes from one who has had the hardest time achieveing just that).

    The exahaustion may be a lot due to adrenalin - and I think that fixes itself with experience. However, I have also found that the softer my follow the far less either I or DP get tired. Thus, in the first comp together in September I was just gulping water every minute while at the last one I think I had a cup before and that was it.

    Great news on the DP series too - 3rd is still 10 points so it adds up. I lost track - where is the next comp?
     
  12. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    thanx, elise -- so true about placement being relative. i don't really care so much about that, other than as tracking a general trend. as long as i'm relatively competitive and have room to move up, it seems to me i'm competing at the right level.

    i was extremely frustrated with my dancing, tho -- adrenaline was definitely a factor during the individual dances where i seized up and did very poorly, despite favorable placement results. that didn't matter -- we both knew it was disastrous and we tried to sort out how to fix.

    then going into the scholarship & dancesport rounds, i started out relaxed, but then it all started happening again. and then apparently i did ironically better in the later dancesport round than scholarship -- but it almost all felt bad to me. meh... you're right... it's an evolution.

    am choosing to highlight some positives in it for myself, to offset my focus on so many things wrong. makes me want to dig in all the more.

    next comp is boston. the good thing about it: the dancesport series is held in the evening, not back-to-back with the scholarship. the scary thing: dancesport series is held in the evening. lol...
     
  13. waltzgirl

    waltzgirl Active Member

    I sip Pepsi before and between heats. I read about a study that showed that caffeine during exercise increased stamina, and it really does. The sugar helps, too. (Never drink soda otherwise--I just consider it my performance enhancing substance!)

    If I were you, sam, I'd try to have routines next time. That would remove one worry and might make it easier to relax.
     
  14. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    So I should dance while drinking a nice cup of capo ;) Nice to hear a justification for the morning coffee binge :)
     
  15. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    Sam - good luck with the comp tomorrow!

    Go out there and just before you dance say to your partner 'lets have fun'. It worked for me :)
     
  16. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    I've heard that as well. I may try that this weekend, WG.

    I actually feel very relaxed about that...I don't go out concerned about it at all. There are a couple figures I need to improve my follow on, but I feel safe out there in general.

    Seems more an energy management thing...innate tension being activated, coupled with stamina issue, and an automatic respnse that makes things even worse.

    But I have a multi-tiered approach to improve.
     
  17. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    I already do that...this is beyond that for me, lol. Although pro tried to promote that approach on the floor this weekend before one of the dances... "This is supposed to be fun!!!" No headgame I pulled on myself made any difference.

    But I still plan on pulling out the fun next time. :D
     
  18. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    The resuls are posted for MD already - gawd bless the computer eh?
     
  19. waltzgirl

    waltzgirl Active Member

    Maybe you've already thought about this, but perhaps you need to include some aerobic exercise in your non-dance training to increase stamina.

    Also, make sure you are eating enough protein. I went online and discovered I was routinely eating about 2/3 of the recommended amount of protein. My stamina definitely improved when I made a point to eat more protein.

    I have stamina issues, too, so I'd be interested in what else you are doing.

    ETA: Then there's my pro's plan to increase my stamina: ending lessons with a 4-minute hustle!
     
  20. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    oh yes, definitely on the table.

    i think i'm okay there.

    i don't think it can be underestimated how negative an impact tension has on the body during dancing -- i have tension in my body that i'm actively working with two different trainers to release, plus my own independent work. i think this is a significant issue in my case.

    we'll be doing rounds every lesson at least for half an hour. i need to get myself into that "omgiwannadie" state and learn how to cope differently with my muscle holding & energy... and mind.

    Here's my current plan:
    • Deep-tissue massage with particular emphasis on the shoulder-blades. that's the place where I can feel that faschia needs to be released, and is causing a myriad of challenges.
    • Resistance flexibility training ("Meridian Stretching"), both on a weekly basis with a trainer a well as nearly every day on my own. I do a series of 16 stretching exercises each time. I started a thread on this -- clearly nobody's into this yet, but I'm very impressed by it. Will eventually share more on it in that thread.
    • Interval training on treadmill: walking for a few minutes, then full-out sprint for two minutes, then walk, then sprint... classic. I also picked up a weighted jumprope, and I'm going to order one of those nylon rope ladders. That was awesome when I did some boot camp training a couple summers ago.
    • Rounds with pro til I stop moaning "oh god, oh god" like a porn star every time my body starts to seize up, lol.
     

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