In many clubs I've seen leaders grabbing their followers' forearms for almost every possible move in salsa, from basic mambo or open position, through almost imaginable every turn pattern. And I know one follower who suffered a dislocated wrist from being over led in this way. The other thing I see is leaders simply standing on the spot, barely moving the body, let alone the feet while pulling and grabbing their partners through these patterns. While I have not yet seen this form of lead and follow on instruction videos yet, I have seen instructors "leading" their partners this way while social dancing. What ever happened to Cubano hips, fingers-to-fingers connection and actually sharing the work and play of a dance for a song? Is leading with a nandful of forearm dancing and making a connection with a partner and sharing a song, or is this a puppetmaster simply "pulling strings" to a beat for a desired effect with little involvement or connection?