Ballroom Dance > Dancing on TV > Dancing with stars... Pros/Cons...thoughts?

Discussion in 'Dancing on TV' started by ChaChaLicious, Jul 5, 2005.

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  1. ChaChaLicious

    ChaChaLicious New Member

    preshow and week 1 (discussion)
    week 1 (poll)
    week 2 (discussion)
    week 2 (poll)
    week 3
    week 4
    week 5
    week 6
    judges & contestants
    in the news
    sold out
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    As great as this show might be, i think that kelly monaco is by far the worst. i cant believe she made it to the finals. her footwork is terrible, her posture is better but still off, and she has no sense of rhythm. ugh! i really hope john wins... hes awesome. what are your thoughts on the show?
  2. lynn

    lynn New Member

    Hmm, guess I'm the first to respond, I'll state the obvious:

    Pros: Some ppl discover that ballroom dancing is so much fun and full of passion.
    Cons: sometimes it leads to unrealistic expectations. Some people gets the idea that you can be THAT good in such a period of time.
  3. ChaChaLicious

    ChaChaLicious New Member

    i agree. actually, when i came into practice last week, i saw that we had a few new students so i asked them why they decided to join and their response was, well we saw it on tv and wanted to dance that well in that time frame like they did. i just grabbed my head and walked away.. i had nothing to say to these people. shouldnt people have common sense and realize it takes years and years to even be considered a good dancer...
  4. Indiana_Jay

    Indiana_Jay Active Member

    DWTS helped to motivate my wife and me to sign up for our first dance lessons. We might not have gotten around to it otherwise.

    Although we are newbies, we understood from the beginning that there's a big difference between what the dancers on DWTS are doing and what we'd be doing.

    We decided that ballroom dancing looked like a fun thing to do together.

    While I'm sure there are other new students with less realistic expectations, if it gets people into the studios, perhaps it's not all bad.

    Even if DWTS fails to accurately portray all the aspects of ballroom dancing, it's at least fun to watch and certainly more beautiful television than most other reality TV shows.

    I'm glad ABC took the risk and put it on.
  5. SDsalsaguy

    SDsalsaguy Administrator Staff Member

    Great points Indiana_Jay... and welcome to the wonderful world of balloom dancing (and the DF!)! :D
  6. lynn

    lynn New Member

    Well, I'm guessing you can be showy and not have proper technique/form in a short amount of time, at least that's what my teacher told me. He said all they've been working on is one dance per week (I'm not 100% sure on this, so plz don't quote me) and they probably don't know the basical lead/follow skills. But sometimes people just want to show off and don't care about the proper technique. It's sad, but everyone has different goals.

    I used to teach little kids piano so I know I can train them really well on one piece of music even if it's way above their level. All they need to do is to play it over and over every day and for that piece only. Being able to play that piece of music doesn't mean you're that level, it just means you can play it, period.
  7. Ithink

    Ithink Active Member

    I disagree with your assessment of Kelly but that's not what you asked.

    I think this show is not a bad thing by any means. At its best, it'll introduce lots of people to ballroom, drive down lesson prices and makes it more affordable for us. At its worst, it'll just show people that ballroom is athletic, fun and not just for old people.

    As for Kelly, I think she epitomizes what ballroom is about: fun, sexy, takes lots of hard work but isn't above anyone's abilities. That anyone who wants to dance, can even if they're pigeontoed, have no rhythm or whatever else you said about Kelly. And for what it's worth, I though this at first but I think she has made great strides and deserves, just as much as John (whose rhythm ain't that good either, IMO) to win DWTS.

  8. BrookeErin

    BrookeErin New Member

    welcome Jay
  9. Indiana_Jay

    Indiana_Jay Active Member

    Thanks, SD and Brooke... I'm learning a lot from the forums and looking forward to our second private lesson this week.
  10. Vince A

    Vince A Active Member

    I agree with you 100% . . . Kelly is what that show should be about - from rookie beginner to a continually improving dancer . . . given whatever timespan that person is involved in while to learn to dance and improve!

    Yes, John is good, and has also improved, but like you say, the rhythm, and the novice look is still there, while Kelly's is not.

    I also thought Kelly was the better dancer from the very first show . . . I think she has a shot at knocking John off! I know his charisma is powerful, and most times . . . that sells! You and I and a few others will get eaten alive on the DF if John wins, but if Kelly wins . . . the "I told you so's" will be short-lived.
  11. tacad

    tacad New Member

    But we could make a lot of noise in that short-lived time! :twisted:
  12. Vince A

    Vince A Active Member

    HA-HA-HA-HA . . . Im with you . . . :twisted: :twisted:

    I can't wait!
  13. mamboqueen

    mamboqueen Well-Known Member

    Okay, I love you guys, but you need to look at Kelly's dancing and not her body parts wiggling! :wink: She steeenks!

    Welcome, Indiana Jay. It's nice to hear that people are taking up the hobby/sport/art/name it from watching the show! I hope you and your wife enjoy it as much as the rest of us do.
  14. SDsalsaguy

    SDsalsaguy Administrator Staff Member

    It depends though...

    Do I think that John has, on the whole, been the best and mo consistent dancer (of the ams) since week one? Absolutely!

    Do I think that kelly is, without a doubt, the most improved dancer (of the ams) since week one? Also absolutely!

    I give a lot of credit to both of them and to both of their instructors accordingly.
  15. ChaChaLicious

    ChaChaLicious New Member

    even though she did improve a whole lot since week one of show, i still think she isnt a good dancer.

    as for the show itself, i must agree that it did open up a lot of doors for people who always wanted to take lessons and never got around to it. i know that my studio skyrocketed since the airing of DWTS. however, what i dont like about it, is that even though it portrays ballroom to be fun, and sexy and all that jazz, it doesnt really show what it really is about. all the years of work, dedictation that goes into it. all the dynamics and technique, all the money and all the hard work of training and practicing for weeks and weeks at a time. it just doesnt show everything i'd like people to really know about ballroom. i know its a show and they do show us scenes of them practicing but i dont think its enough. aside from that.. i think the show is great. im glad im finally able to watch something that i love and do everyday of my life. and im glad that so many people watch it to try to semi-understand what ballroom dancing REALLY, TRUELY is....
  16. Vince A

    Vince A Active Member

    I'd really like to see the two Pros dance just once. All the credit should be theirs for getting Kelly and what's his name into the finals.

    Regardless of who does win, I can assuredly say that the show has opened the eyes of non-ballroom, hell, non-dancersand dancers in general! The show as someone else put . . . is without a doubt the most beautiful of the reality shows, and it didn't need an extreme makeover to get there. It just took 6 great Pros . . . 6 willing stars to go through that . . . and three ho-hum judges . . . and one MC who is using his lines from the AMFV show!

    I have really enjoyed the show . . . honest!
  17. ChaChaLicious

    ChaChaLicious New Member

    speaking of the judges... i think the only people who should be judging the show are dancers themselves.. any pro-dancer/ or pro judge.. anyone who knows ballroom dancing like the back of their hand. not some choregraphers who probably never danced the cha cha in their lifetime. some retired dancers would be nice like tony meridith and melanie lapatin. or some pro dancers like slavik kryklyvyy and karina smirnoff, or eugene katsevman and maria manusova. gary and diana mcdonald.. anyone who knows the dance world!
  18. tacad

    tacad New Member

    Body parts? :shock: She had body parts? :shock:

    :lol: Actually I was watching the dancing except for 15 to 20 seconds when I was completely distracted by the wardrobe malfunction. :roll: Kelly is not as technically correct as John. This comes across as more interesting and confident for her. More tentative and beginner-ish for him. I agree with what Laura said about classic dancing vs. flash and trash. In fact I agree with the facts most people are putting forward about their skill levels. I, as a social ballroom dancer, liked the flava, for lack of a better word, in Kelly's dancing.
    For my standards, she was the better dancer. She conveyed more of what I like in social ballroom dancing.

    And if I may give a friendly jab :wink: : It ain't all about competitions, syllabi, or technique. But also about the heart and the mood of the dance.
    Ballroom dancing includes social ballroom dancing. And unless people think that America is going to run into studios and become competitors for dancesport, maybe it's a good thing that Kelly is here for the rest of us. Part and parcel of ballroom dancing.

    And I love and respect all you guys and gals too. :wink:
  19. Larinda McRaven

    Larinda McRaven Site Moderator Staff Member

    beautifully put.
  20. SDsalsaguy

    SDsalsaguy Administrator Staff Member

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