Ballroom Dance > Dancing on TV > Dancing with the Stars II - Week 4

Discussion in 'Dancing on TV' started by mamboqueen, Jan 23, 2006.

  1. new-ish

    new-ish New Member

    In my neighborhood it stands for "been there, done that"
  2. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    Been there done that.
  3. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    I was wondering that myself.
  4. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    Interesting perspective, saludas. Pretty profound thought for this early Saturday morning. :cool: :)

    Gotta say I agree with this. Train wrecks make me cringe, too. That's another reason why, in general, I don't watch these types of shows. For some reason, a lot of people seem to enjoy watching the spectacularly bad. Not I.

    That said, I'll say it again. I don't think that DWTS is primarily about dancing. It's about making money, in my jaundiced view. Seeing it from that perspective helps me put DWTS into a slightly different context. I don't expect honesty of pretty much anything. Reality shows aren't real. A pity, but I think it's true.
  5. Infosaturated

    Infosaturated New Member

    That's true, but why did Miller get voted off this week? Why did the audience turn on him?

    I think people are very willing to give others the benefit of the doubt, which is a good thing. But, it is contingent on putting in an honest effort. This week, the viewers found out he wasn't practicing.

    That made everyone feel "had" by Miller. He was no longer the clutz that was trying and just wasn't a natural dancer. That persona people could identity with. People do not want to identify with someone who isn't putting in an honest effort.

    The unforgiveable sin was not and is not being a poor dancer, it's not trying.

    Ashley tugged my heartstrings this week. She was trying so hard to say positive things without lying. She didn't make the "call in" signal when their number was announced. He managed to take the "bubbly" out of Ashley. Put that in the frame that he wasn't showing up for practice which made her job impossible. She must have struggled so hard to come up with a choreography that he could learn in five hours.

    So, in conclusion, I don't think it was so much the "trainwreck" vote that was keeping him around, but the "underdog" vote. He lost the underdog vote when people found out he wasn't putting in any effort.
  6. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    Actually, my comments just now were about the show in general and not Master P ... I think. :?

    Interesting points, though, InfoSaturated. :cool: :) I still have no idea how the voting works (I deliberately never found out -- information overload. :lol:, )so I can't begin to speculate about why who got voted off or stayed on. But your theory sounds viable to me. *shrug*
  7. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    i just dont want to waste my good pondering cells pondering it......
  8. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    I agreed with this as well saludas
  9. Bradamant

    Bradamant Member

    Found it, it WAS Chelo.

  10. chachachacat

    chachachacat Well-Known Member

  11. DancePoet

    DancePoet Well-Known Member

    Very interesting perspective!

    There is a pattern in some humans' behaviour that shows people being all eyes for "train wrecks". And I suspect this has certainly helped the network make some additional advertising dollars through P's situation, just hopefully not at the expense of viewing ballroom dancing in a negative manner. I'm feeling like this show is doing good things for ballroom based on my relatively localized experiences. I believe with P being gone, those who have started watching this show for the first time AND stick around to continue watching more, will be the folks most likely to find there way into a dance studio for lessons. The others who don't will be those folks looking for the shortcuts and quick fixes, and such folks often lose out when it comes to long term joy.
  12. DancePoet

    DancePoet Well-Known Member

    Many of the "trainwreck" voters could be "underdog" voters, too. And maybe it was a combination of the two?

    I feel sympathetic towards Ashley. She had a tough job, and hopefully she got paid appropriately.
  13. DancePoet

    DancePoet Well-Known Member

    With all the popndering cells you use, I'm glad you still have some left. ;) :lol:
  14. patois

    patois New Member

    Hear! Hear!

    I've also enjoyed watching George dance so much! What a trooper. He shows such enthusiasm and joy--he's having so much fun, he's just a pleasure to watch. After seeing him in movies/tv all these years, this is a nice touch for his career.
  15. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    Hmm. I hadn't thought about that. They're getting paid? (Over and above the priceless face time on TV?) Really? Not sure why, but I assumed that the pay was minimal. :?
  16. SDsalsaguy

    SDsalsaguy Administrator Staff Member

    I'm not sure what the figure is this season, but they're all paid for the whole season, but at a higher rate as long as the're still one of the "active" couples. They really do need to get paid too, since they can't rally take any other work at the same time and have to live on something.

    I know the ammont last season was $2,000/month, but I'd asume that's gone up at least some....
  17. mamboqueen

    mamboqueen Well-Known Member

    And I assume all of their expenses (hotel, meals, etc.) are covered? I dunno. It sounds like a losing proposition unless they're really thinking their business will pick up a lot because of this "advertising."
  18. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    Yep. $2000 a month is minimal, in my view, considering ...
  19. alemana

    alemana New Member

    someone who knew about it posted that neither the pros nor the stars were being put up, fed, etc during the show - that the way 'reality' tv is framed by actor union rules means much lower compensation/benefits than, say, a sitcom. that's part of the reason there is so much 'reality' on TV right now - it's cheaper, many times over, to produce than your average sitcom/drama.
  20. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    I hate "reality" TV, to be honest, but I think the economics make it fairly likely that reality TV is here to stay ... at least for a while. :?

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