Hi, In Waltz the timing for the following figures alone would/could be normally: Double Reverse Spin with overspin (1 reverse pivot) = 12&3& Telespin = 123&1& I could join these two figures by eliminating the overspin of the dble reverse spin but a more interesting way would be to add a second reverse pivot to end facing forwards to then be able to enter the telespin. If I do this there would appear to be two main choices for timing: - Either speed up the dble reverse spin, so as to do the "overspin", ie. first reverse pivot on 3 and then use & for the second reverse pivot so as to enter the first step of the telespin with left foot on 1. Hence the total timing becomes: 1&2(&)3&123&1& Where I have bracketed the extra step of the lady in the dble reverse spin. - The other choice is to enter the Telespin on beat 2 rather than the more normal 1. The justification for this being that the whole movement taken together means the necessity to start the telespin on beat 1 might not exist. The total timing would then be 12&3& for the dble reverse spin plus overspin (first pivot) and then the second pivot on 1 and enter the telespin on 2. Here I would chose to move the syncopation of the telespin one step earlier, hence 23&1&2. This is therefore LF forward on 2, right foot around on 3 (lady does heel turn), step back for man & lady out of heel turn on &, same foot position on 1, final two pivots on "&" and 2. In both cases I am entering a throwaway oversway after this sequence so the need to exit on beat 1 or 3, etc, doesn't exist. Any thoughts?