Ballroom Dance > how are your lessons going? thread II

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by fascination, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. scullystwin42

    scullystwin42 Well-Known Member

    That's a rough talk. Have you got prospective partners? I miss AM-AM as well, and spent a lot of time looking for a partner. Never found one in my age group and skill level that could make it work. I hope you can move to that!
  2. j_alexandra

    j_alexandra Well-Known Member

    Welcome. This says it all, Entheos.
  3. RiseNFall

    RiseNFall Well-Known Member

    Pro is back and we're not doing what I expected. I expected to do more on some major improvements in quality we were working on before the comp--ones that, as expected, did not quite show up there. Instead, we're working on some new figures. The VW I had worked on before, but dropped before the comp because there was no way it was going to be ready. At the moment it's got an eminent train wreck feel to it, but that means my dancing will be better once I've gotten it under control. :) The Foxtrot is jazzier than what I've done before, so that's fun, but getting it to look good will be a challenge. Waltz we had already worked on and it just needs to get a bit more consistent. Tango is a figure that is not train-wreck difficult (like the VW), but I'm having to learn quite a bit for it to feel or look good. In fact, after we did it the first time, I asked him to do it with New Guy so that I could get some idea of what I was aiming for.

    Pro is being smart in that I am one of those people who is perfectly happy working on making the stuff I already know better more or less forever. This is a good time to introduce new material because we won't be competing for a while. I can at least pretend that I'll have it under control before them. ;)
  4. cornutt

    cornutt Well-Known Member

    I've long wondered about the experience of following in VW. Because leading it is a hanging-on-to-the-cliff-edge-by-your-fingernails experience... :eek:
  5. RiseNFall

    RiseNFall Well-Known Member

    There was a looonnng period in which all of my VW felt like an eminent train wreck. I have now been dancing for something like seven years, though the first several I wasn't doing much VW. It was only the last year or so that even the basics became solidly consistent over a range of professional leaders. And down right fun only the last six or so months. I'm not sure I've ever danced VW with an amateur, because I haven't been doing much social dancing recently and before that it wouldn't have seemed fair to the leader ("hey, I can barely do this with my teachers, wanna give it a shot?"), let alone safe. I agree with the :eek:.
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  6. entheos

    entheos Member

    Went to my first waltz group class. It's the first style I've learned during private lessons. It's my bread and butter. I did really well. It was all familiar stuff, but I still took the basics seriously. Dancing with a lot of different people with varying skills.

    I'm getting confident with leading. I'm not so apologetic anymore during mistakes. I feel at home at the studio now.

    Some of the people I've met won't be around anymore. Some will be back around 2 months. Kind of sucks since we just started to get to know each other. A new guy showed up. His first lesson ever. Feels weird not being the new guy anymore. Mix of consistent goers and people I've never seen before come to each class.

    I'm starting to get compliments from various people.

    I love coming extra early just to warm up, chill out, and watch the children who are amazing dancers practicing. They're the most consistent people. Always there when I go there.

    My private instructor has high hopes for me. She's keeps amping up the lessons everytime. I welcome the challenge. I'll be ready for our next one.

    Only 1 group class and 1 private lesson left for 2017. I'll make the most of it. I'll practice hard during the time off in December.
  7. entheos

    entheos Member

    I wanted to do so well for this private class. I went into it so confident, but for whatever reason it just wasn't my day. Everything just fell apart and I felt slow mentally.

    I learned a lot and I know it's all just part of the process.

    A little frustrated, but I'll be back at it again tomorrow.

    It was a humbling experience.
  8. cornutt

    cornutt Well-Known Member

    It happens now and then, especially at the stage you're at. There's a lot to learn at this point.
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  9. FancyFeet

    FancyFeet Well-Known Member

    @entheos we all have days where it's like we've completely forgotten how to dance or left our brains at home. As you improve, you get better at camouflaging and working through those days... but they still happen. I've learned that - for me anyway - getting frustrated is the worst way to deal. I try to just accept how it is that day, and keep working at it.
  10. FancyFeet

    FancyFeet Well-Known Member

    No. Hence... crying.

    Things are a little better this week. Trying not to be peeved that for the first time in a long time, I was in the mood to really work... and pro called an end to my lesson 10-15 mins early, because his knee was hurting. (Must have been seriously painful for him to admit anything, because he does not like to show weakness. Me being irked is just indicative of my headspace right now, not really about him at all.)
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  11. SwingingAlong

    SwingingAlong Well-Known Member

    Sorry to hear about this, hope things are a bit better now, and you can think your way into a happier place. I have wanted to compete for a long time too, but where I am, there is no chance of finding an AM partner, and not even any lessons (at any level) unless I want to travel for 4 hours, or fly, which I can't really afford on top of paying for a lesson at the moment. And with the teacher I do have, ProAm is not an option (he was openly horrified at the idea). I am learning to accept what I can't have, and channel the desperate wanting into other areas of my life. Over the last 8 winters, I have slowly been teaching my DH, and we are at the stage where he is confident to go out social dancing now and again (We had a few years of frozen shoulders and then I was sick for 18 months). But he loves practicing - we can go hard out and work on whatever we want to, and add a new dance or step when it suits us. The other day he was bouncing about and doing little skips of enjoyment, so I've started teaching him step hops. Sure, he's only about Bronze/Silver level, but is very athletic, so we can bounce around as much as we like, since there is never anyone else there. And while he doesn't do my routines yet (I was doing Gold Bar when I stopped having regular lessons) there is always stuff I can work on, and I still practice by myself a bit. So, I can't have a comp partner, but I have found a way to keep my dancing self very happy.
    If it means that much to you, maybe it's time to look deeper into what is stopping you getting there. Looking at jobs in the US might be a place to start? Do some comps there, go on a holiday and check out the studios, build some friendships, so the move ends up being to a place you know, rather than a huge scary empty void. Speaking for what is was like for me moving towns here - I find it extremely difficult. Can't imagine I'd ever be brave enough to move country:eek::bookworm::bookworm::hungry::shy::sorry::confused::cool::p
  12. RiseNFall

    RiseNFall Well-Known Member

    We snuck in some work on quality/technique in Waltz but most of Tuesday's and all of today's lessons were on learning the new figures. If I keep my wits about me (which is not guaranteed), there are only two measures of the waltz that I have difficulty executing. And there's a third that can slip by the wayside pretty easily. Tango and Foxtrot are executable, just not sharp yet. We added in yet another VW figure, partially because I have seen it danced a lot, really like it, and was excited about learning it. I'm sure that once I'm better at it I'll remember what I liked about it. ;)
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  13. entheos

    entheos Member

    Did Samba today. Met two new instructors for this group class. I picked up the techniques faster than the other styles I've done so far. I think I'm getting used to moving my body in certain ways and put my mind in a better learning state. It was a fun class. I learned a lot. Basic steps / whisk / voltas / crisscross voltas / travelling bota fogos.

    I socialize and introduce myself a lot more now. Especially to help nervous newcomers feel at ease. I'm on a first name basis with a lot of the regulars and the instructors. Good times.

    This is the last group class for the year. The next one is a month away. Same with private classes. So I'll have plenty of practice time to go over everything I've learned and really refine the basics of everything.

    I'm glad I started learning all these styles of dancing. It was only 4 group classes and 3 privates (4 different styles in 1 month) so far, but I love it there and I've set myself up for success and a more colorful life for 2018. Being part of the studio and its great people also helps me become a better person in general.
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  14. 3wishes

    3wishes Well-Known Member

    Lots of laughing, maybe something was in the water but everyone and myself had an extreme case of the giggles.
    Lesson was good, worked on weight over hip in fast pivots, Pro is becoming much more adventurous.
  15. RiseNFall

    RiseNFall Well-Known Member

    With the addition of the new figures, I asked Pro to map out for me what goes where on the floor. After this week, he'll be out for two weeks, then I'll be out, so there'll be a 3 and a half week gap before I'll have another lesson with him. We have a coaching later this week, so this was my last chance to get it figured out. There won't be quite as much time as I would like after I'm back to prepare for a team match and then a competition, so I wanted to get it straight now. Pro probably thinks he's teaching me a couple more figures before the competition. :rofl:

    We primarily worked on the new VW figures and...well, they are definitely better than they were. :) That's about the best I can say about them at the moment.
  16. FancyFeet

    FancyFeet Well-Known Member

    Pro cancelled yesterday for a "last minute personal appointment". Now I'm really trying to not be peeved.

    (Seriously, I didn't really want to go anyway as I haven't been feeling well, and we were in the middle of a (not horrific) snowstorm, and he rarely cancels last minute (though still more than my once in 4.5 years - thanks, food poisoning!) so it's not really a big deal... I'm just fighting with the illogical, petty part of my brain.)
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  17. scullystwin42

    scullystwin42 Well-Known Member

    fun lesson last night in smooth. tweaking choreo for my tango open. my pro is a serial choreo changer, and i've realized that i'm finally comfortable with that. plus, this was some fun stuff we were changing it to.
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  18. Lai Lai

    Lai Lai Member

    Sounds like something I'm about to face. Except 10 minutes of dancing - that is a lot, I only get that much dancing at a competition, not lessons. Or, what qualifies as actual dancing?
  19. FancyFeet

    FancyFeet Well-Known Member

    My lessons are usually mostly all dancing. Dance, quick 'let's try this', dance... repeat for an hour. We're no longer at the place where I'm learning figures, etc. - we spend most our time on fine details. Even new choreography goes quickly. We added a new wall of QS last night that we were running to music in about 5 minutes, and part of that was me watching the inspiration video. It'll be comp ready in a few weeks.

    Best of luck with your intense discussion!

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