Salsa > How to become really good salsa dancer?

Discussion in 'Salsa' started by Slawek, Feb 23, 2005.

  1. delamusica

    delamusica Active Member

    Good for you! No teacher should be trying to just teach steps without explaining the fundamentals of the movement, posture, and connection of the dance . . . sheesh. :roll:
     
  2. HF

    HF New Member

    @ africana
    Hmm ... I think the video shows a guy named Aanio that Slawek admires, not himself. To me it looks like a demonstration after a workshop.
     
  3. Twilight_Elena

    Twilight_Elena Well-Known Member

    I'll second, Sabor. It's all about the groove! :banana: Oh well, there's also some technique involved...
    I personally began ballroom before salsa, and it helped me a LOT. I totally reccomend it. I would suggest, however, that you don't do ballroom just for teh sake of improving your salsa technique. Rather approach it as a seperate thing, something you could love for what it is. If you went to your ballroom classes eager to learn salsa and not ballroom, it's only logical that you felt dissapointed.
    When I first began ballroom, I took technique groups after 5-6 private lessons. You can't expect to do proper technique so early. I think your teacher was right but that you misunderstood him/her. I suggest you take up some other form of dancing if ballroom is not of your liking. If it is, though, you can simply find a different instructor.

    Twilight Elena
     
  4. Slawek

    Slawek New Member

    Exactly :p This is video recorded during party after workshop with Aanyo. I just wish I could dance like him.
     
  5. tj

    tj New Member

    I think it's a worthy goal to want to improve one's dancing.

    However, I personally think it's better to think of it as an ongoing journey rather than trying to get to a final destination.

    If you can't enjoy where you currently are (or what your current skill level is), how are you going to enjoy your time dancing?
     
  6. africana

    africana New Member

    oopsie :oops: i guess you wouldn't want to post yours then haha :oops:
     
  7. labelledanseuse

    labelledanseuse New Member

    I take lessons at a studio that teaches all kinds of dances: ballroom, latin, salsa, c & w, swing, etc... My teacher makes sure that I do all of the techniques correctly before he teaches me new steps. Those teachers sound like they are inconsiderate of their student's wishes.
     
  8. brujo

    brujo New Member

    Hire a guy to break all the kneecaps of the dancers better than you in your scene.

    It really depends for me, some people are really good dancers because they hit you at an emotional level. It's hard to get this because you have to listen to a ton of music, really learn and love it and express it. Acting classes, musicality and music classes.

    Others hit you at a technical level, and this is where all the jazz / ballet and jujitsu training comes in.
     
  9. Rosa

    Rosa New Member

    Squirrel, sounds like you had a bad experience, but there are instructors like that in all forms of dance :cry: , so it probably wasn't a specific ballroom thing. If you really want to, I'd give it another try.

    I have a salsa instructor who believes in technique right from the every beginning, and continues it no matter how high a level you are. In fact some of us would say she concentrates TOO much on technique, but that's another story... :roll:
     
  10. azzey

    azzey Member

    Like learning anything it's a case of chipping away every day until you gain the desired result.

    BTW, I do LA style (with Rumba) and Cuban casino style seperately with specialist instructors. Unfortunately my Cuban instructor (who is native Cuban) hasn't had time to do privates last year. I'm hoping she will this year.

    Although I class myself as intermediate-advanced I am going through a similar situation as I am working on Rumba and styling at the moment.

    Here's what I did/am doing:

    Downloaded 800 video clips of Professional dancers.
    In my opinion some of the best for NY style are from http://www.mamboston2.com I think Leye and Emily are some of the best at Rumba movement in NY style.

    Select the best clips for learning purposes. i.e. you see something in a dancer that you would like to learn. Compare and contrast that feature (e.g. rumba like movement) with how the other pro's do it.

    Watch them every day for a few months until you literally have the way they move burned into your inner eyeball. Each time I watch I see some little nuance I didn't before and I work out how to do it. Then practice this.

    I have been working on Rumba movements for several months at home and have been integrating them into my Salsa dancing in the same ways I see the pro's doing them.

    The next thing I'm going to do is buy a video camera and record myself at every practice session at home and in the club. Compare to the video clips of the pro's and modify my practice. In this way I will have a video history where I can see when I got the look right and when I am getting it wrong.

    I've done Rumba classes at congresses and with Cuban professionals like Osbanis, however I think I'm gunna have to do most of the work myself and then just get them to correct my learning at intervals with privates.

    I'm also going to buy a DVD called Rumbon Tropical (from Cuba) as it has some of the best Rumberos dancing at Rumba parties, and select and adapt what they do to Rumba in Salsa.
    See here. http://www.boogalu.com/generic121.html

    In my opinion, asking a great Cuban dancer who is not a teacher is gunna be a waste of time as my friends who are Cuban learnt to dance as they were growing up by copying others in Cuba and are not good at breaking things down or teaching them.

    Lastly, you could always take a trip to Cuba and for $20 an hour get professional private instruction for the week. It's on my list of To Do's eventually. :)
     
  11. Slawek

    Slawek New Member

    Thanks Azzey. Watching video clips and trying to figure out most interesting moves for me and then practicing them. That's exactly what I'm doing lately. There is also a advice I've heard during the ladies styling classes I've been watching this weekend. The advice is:
    If you decide to buy this Rumbon Tropical DVD share your opinion on it.

    Unfortunately I can not afford trip to Cuba right now. And even if I could I would prefer to visit NY first.
     
  12. azzey

    azzey Member

    I realised when I got home that it was James and Emily, and the clip is from http://www.mamboriginals.com I forget which gallery though, but they really have great NY style and body movements.
     
  13. azzey

    azzey Member

    Yeah, that advice goes for anything, until you build a seamless flowing landscape. It's nice to have a model in your mind to work from of the completed masterpiece though, even if it's always a work-in-progress.

    Sure, will do. Even though I lean towards LA style, I quite like some of the NY style dancers style and body movements. It's just a shame that Mambo seems to only come in one flavour of ice-cream.
    I like many flavours so I get bored of Mambo mambo mambo all the time.
     

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