Tango Argentino > If you can't lead it don't dance it

Discussion in 'Tango Argentino' started by hbboogie1, May 20, 2009.

  1. Dave Bailey

    Dave Bailey New Member

    Can I nick that for my site? It's brilliant...
  2. Zoopsia59

    Zoopsia59 Well-Known Member

    Weren't Jim Croce' and Carole Lombard on that plane too?
  3. bordertangoman

    bordertangoman Well-Known Member

    okay but you have to add the bit where he turns down Greta Garbo; you could substitute
    somebody contemporary.......

  4. Ampster

    Ampster Active Member

    :confused: What are we talking about? :tongue:
  5. Tango Bellingham

    Tango Bellingham New Member

    Uh, what's a "prat"? :confused:
  6. Angel HI

    Angel HI Well-Known Member

    very Small Attempt To Get back On Topic

    If this happens, it's most often because charity dancers do not really dance for the charity case...they dance for the appearance of being charitable. If we would dance at the level of the intended partner, it will never turn out badly.

    And, D'chester, liked the story. Funny.
  7. Tango Bellingham

    Tango Bellingham New Member

    And are you saying this applies to me? [starting to growl....] And I get accused of being patronizing?! :mad:
    Geez louise!

    I'm talking about the charity dances where I get my back muscles shredded because of ballistic auto-eroticism on the part of the follower, or the follower who wants to do her own thing, regardless of my attempts to corral her from running into people or furniture, or the follower that thinks close-embrace means a choke-hold on my neck or using me as a trapeze, or the ballroom champion who arches her upper back up and away from me and auto-poses every ten seconds so I have to dig in with my toes to keep from falling on top of her.

    And I always dance to the level of my partner. That way, if I'm dancing with a beginner (who I've seen before and am fairly sure will not inflict any of the bodily harm listed above) , she has a nice time and gets to enjoy herself rather than being yanked through a series of exhibitionist stage moves and subjected to an on-the-dance-floor litany of how she could improve, blah blah.

  8. Tango Bellingham

    Tango Bellingham New Member

    No problem.

    BTW, the drink offer still holds....:cheers:

    Btu you'll have to use the cabaceo to get it....:razz:
  9. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    And that's why I won't ask a guy to dance. I don't even want to be thought of as a "charity dance." Don't need/want pity like that; I've got my own set of issues in my head to contend with. I figure if they were interested in dancing with me, they'd have asked.
  10. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    Why not dance in open, with a soft and giving embrace? Seems like it could help mitigate some of those problems.
  11. bordertangoman

    bordertangoman Well-Known Member

    ouch! sounds like my teaching partner. I will ask a stranger to dance without knowing her ability and I will dance with people I have seen dance and think them attractive dancers and I will dance with favourites and I will dance with friends, That I think is in the nature of chivalry.
  12. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    Er...wasn't meant to be ouch-y. Just saying, I don't even want to be thought of as a charity dance. If someone wants to dance with me, YAY! If they don't want to dance with me...well, not yay, and I may be disappointed because I've been curious about them, or disappointed because I'd like to dance with someone really good or whose musicality I've admired...but I don't hold it against them if they don't ask. That's fine.

    A few weeks ago I was asked to dance with a guy I'd been admiring for some while. We'd been chatting about other things, and he asked me mid-tanda. It was very nice, and he did me the favor of asking for a second set, which I also enjoyed. Last weekend...he didn't ask me. Disappointed, yes, but it's his perfectly valid choice. I just kinda hope that I'll continue to get better so that at some point he'd like to ask me again. *shrug*
  13. dchester

    dchester Moderator Staff Member

    Just remember, whenever a guy asks a women to dance who might be better than him, this is what he has to deal with.

    FWIW, I'm always flattered when a woman asks me to dance. It actually makes me try a little harder to be a good leader for her.
  14. Tango Bellingham

    Tango Bellingham New Member

    Because I don't dance open-embrace unless I am on a stage, performing, which is rarely, if ever.
  15. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    Oh yes, I'm aware of the fundamental hypocrisy of my thinking. It's one of those time when I'll enjoy the little benefits of being a girl. :)
  16. bordertangoman

    bordertangoman Well-Known Member

    Pete & Dud Part II

    Pete: well Dud; as a musician, which of the tango orchestras gains your favour.
    Dud: For me, the arrangements of Tanturi coupled with the velvety voice of Enrique Campos are the epitome of good dance music. No other singer can convey emotion coupled with a sonorous rendition. Foe me he is the Bing Crosby of the tango world; not just beautiful to the ear but like drinking a really good cup of Espresso. The music has been steamed out under high temperature and the result is rich tasting and dark and smooth. What about you Pete?

    Pete: Give me Pugliese every time. He is the Jimi Hendrix of the Bandoneon. He makes the instrument sound like the human voice. a human voice with passion and drama; His rendition of La Yumba captures every other tango song ever played with a bandoneon.

    Dud: he was a pianist Pete.

    Pete: that makes his genius even more extraordinary. Only someone with such vision could make an instrument he wasnt playing sound so evocative. When I hear Galla Ciego or Negracha I am aroused to a state of passion that is rarely experienced outside cloistered religious institutions.
    If Tanturi & Campos are the best coffee of tango, then Pugliese is the Mescaline of tango. When I hear his music it transports to an altered state where I lose myself. I am no longer conscious of there being a me and a partner or that I am in a room full of people; there is only music and movement. I am no longer responsible for my actions when Pugliese is played

    Dud: Is that why you bump into so many people then?

    Pete: quite possibly, dud, quite possibly
  17. tangomaniac

    tangomaniac Active Member

    A big problem is men don't realize they are the cause of the problem--and women seem very accomodating to take the blame.
  18. dchester

    dchester Moderator Staff Member

    I think it's my teacher's fault.

    (After all, it couldn't be my fault that I'm a lousy dancer)

  19. Heather2007

    Heather2007 New Member

  20. newbie

    newbie Well-Known Member

    Oh it will be done very easily. And to be more convincing I will quote a follower (Mariana from Sebastian & Mariana).

    "You ladies you want good leaders, but you do nothing to help them getting good."

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