Tango Argentino > Live music - not tango

Discussion in 'Tango Argentino' started by oldtangoguy, May 17, 2017 at 4:19 PM.

  1. oldtangoguy

    oldtangoguy Active Member

    Question for the open-minded.

    My wife and I love dancing to live music - golden age tango preferred, but those bands/orquestas are hard to come by, so we dance to blues, jazz, indie rock, reggie, grateful dead covers, you name it (NOT 2-steppin' country music however!). Our dance is totally improvised, in part because we may not know the music, and generally don't know the band. Everything we do is "tango", commonly seen in the world of "Alt-tango" and "Nuevo-tango".

    However, we have not even once seen others out dancing as we do, not even those who claim to prefer alt-tango. Is this true everywhere? Or is there some community in which the (alt) tango dancers hit the bars and dance halls?
     
  2. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    In Hamburg/Germany it started around 2005 that people that used to dance the way you do were freezed out from the normal milongas. Since then the community is splitted, with the alternative dancers beeing the smaller crowd. Giving birth to a new profession: the traditional tango djay. The alternative dancers keep dancing tango also to non-tango music (ambient and jazzy tunes, balkan, neotango). In Berlin there is still a big alternative scene, also in many french, spanish and italian towns I´ve been to. I find the ideological schism to be deeper in Germany than in other european countries.
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2017 at 12:48 AM
  3. newbie

    newbie Well-Known Member

    Makes sense. Golden Age ended before 1955, the bands and musicians of this time must not be playing live any more.

    As for places where alternative music is dominant, yes we have some in my neck of the woods. But not many. The music can be Murray Head's "say it ain't so joe", any of Virgin Suicides OST, Angie by the Stones, etc. And the DJ makes it very clear in his ads that he will play alternative music. And he plays alternative songs, not Electro ones. And, finally, it's not a full-alternative milonga. At best (or at worst, depending on your PoV) he will play 50% alternative, the rest is usual tangos.
     
  4. oldtangoguy

    oldtangoguy Active Member

    One clarification - although there is a bit of an alt scene where we live, we don't attend "Alternative milongas" with DJed music, much of which I don't like. I regularly DJ a traditional milonga, strongly prefer traditional music, and if I'm going to dance to recorded music, please let it be golden age.

    The question was less about alternative djed music and more about peoples willingness to go out and dance to live music. Also, I'm not necessarily advocating "nuevo tango moves". One can, and we often do, dance close embrace ("milonguero style", sort of) to the live music, depending on the feel of the music.
     
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  5. TomTango

    TomTango Active Member

    There's a group from my community who goes out and "tango bombs" live music venues (blues, rock, swing, whatever) after our practicas. It's not really my thing, but they seem to have a blast doing it.
     
  6. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    So why do you make a difference between djayed and live music? Music will go straight to the legs or it will not. When passing a street musician with his accordion I will grab my woman and do some sort of improvized dancing. But of course I would try to match the style as far as I can (folklore, or swing, or carribbean, or what else).
    By the way I like Dominic's "mil-ipso" improvisation in Time Square…​

     
  7. From my experience the distinction between live and recorded music lies in the fact that while recorded music has an even and predictable beat, live music depends and the musician and that moment and usually it's either too slow, too fast or it alternates in between the two.
    I find that in a Milonga it's easier to dance to a recorded music.
     
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