Matching Music to a Dance

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by Foreveradvanced, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums, and to dancing really. I've just started to pick up dancing, American Ballroom to be more precise. I know a few dance styles including Foxtrot, Tango, Waltz, Salsa, Rumba, Nightclub Two Step and East Coast Swing. I don't have any dancing background, however I do have a heavy musical background, specifically in percussion. So with dancing, come music, and what has been one of my favorite parts of this whole experience of learning these dances is going through music and trying to match them to dance styles. However, Its really hard to peg some of the, especially being the novice that I am at the moment.

    So to the question at hand, I've got a huge interest in finding modern songs, especially those in musical genres not typically associated with traditional ballroom dances and what I'd like is your collective opinions on what, if any, these songs will work for. The music might not be tyour taste, and don't get me wrong, I love the classics, but this is a fascination of mine, and maybe of others here.

    I'll start off with these two, especially this first one:

    Burndt Jamb by Weezer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo1zQAy85jg
    (I was thinking maybe a fast rumba or nightclub two step?)

    My Heart by Paramore
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLvcE2vFrl8
    (A Quick Waltz?)

    Any help would help, or even song suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and if I get a good reception I have many more question on this and related topics that I'll be sure to ask.

    Thanks for your time, and looking forward to sharing dance and music with you all in the future :D

    -Chris
  2. TAK

    TAK Member

    Not NC2S. Too fast.
    My first impulse is actually to say samba. It doesn't have the samba feeling at all, but it does have the 3-quarter - 1-quarter - 1 beat pattern in there somewhere. It sounds more 2/4 than 4/4 to me which would make it more samba than rumba, although you could do a rumba to it too -- the individual beats are around the same duration in rumba and samba so they are substitutable in general. (And quickstep is twice as fast, so you can often substitute quickstep and samba if you want to do Latin during Standard practice or something)

    Yeah, there isn't much of a choice with triple time. Fast waltz or slow Viennese waltz.

    This is a pretty fun topic you're getting into -- as a place to start you should get familiar with the tempi (in measures/bars per minute): http://ballroomdancemusic.info/tempos.htm

    Have fun!
  3. kayak

    kayak Active Member

    The first song would work as a good west coast swing. It wasn't on your list of dances, but would probably be my choice. You could easily adapt a triple step ECS to the music.
  4. asdepique

    asdepique Member

    Your songs are not suited for ballroom dancing.
  5. Well, The point is not for them to work traditionally exactly. The point to it really, is that music is all around us, and comes in many a form, fashion, style, and occasion. For me, I'm a young guy surrounded by friends who are theater majors, dancers, artsy folks from San Francisco lol. SO basically, wouldn't you think it nice to be able to pick out any sort of song and adapt it, without having to change up beats and musicality, and just simply dance to it? Plus, its so much easier to attract people to dancing when you can use a song from the type of music they love to hook them into it, then when they are hooked work them on to the classics? Anyways, if its not your cup of tea, its not your cup of tea. The songs I post here aren't ones I'd necissarily use to dance to every night, but are ones I could see working an unconventional routine around just to shake things up, or like I said, to dance to with friends, or get others hooked into dancing. Anyways you look at it, my intentions are good here :D

    And thanks for the help and sugestionsTak and Kayak, thats the kind of response I was looking for. I'll be sure to post a couple more up for scroutiny! :p

    Thanks again,
    -Chris
  6. Lies!!! You can dance to anything!!! Lol :tongue:

    Welcome to DF, Foreveradvanced! My first instinct on the 1st song is, same as you, also nightclub two step, or american rumba. West Coast Swing would work too, and maybe Mambo as well.

    2nd song is a definite Viennese.
  7. Here are some others with the same theme:

    Wake Up by Coheed and Cambria
    (I know this will work for at least Nightclub Two Step)

    Holiday by Green Day
    (Now I was told this works for East Coast Swing... but it juuust doesn't seem right, I can tell it works, but I wouldn't be surprised if it worked for something else better. The drum beats fairly dancy)

    Too Good To Be by New Found Glory
    (You know, I'm not really sure? I'm not sure if their is a dance style thats like a fast rumba? and I know I'm showing how much of a novice I am, but I figure something along those lines.)

    Again, Thanks for the help :)
  8. well I put up another post, but I guess it has to go through administrator approval first? Which is.. odd to say the least, especially since I posted it a few minutes ago? Any particular reason?
  9. Angel HI

    Angel HI Active Member

    Welcome to the DF, asde. Your post, however, is quite inaccurate. One of the greatest things that our studios offer is to show persons that they can dance BR to their fav music regardless of what it is.
    A PM to you will explain.
  10. Br0nze

    Br0nze Member

    'Burndt Jamb' could be a Rumba, a Samba, or Nightclub Foxtrot with its infamous "Step-Tap" "Step-Tap." WCS could work, as well as Mambo. I'd say anything that goes &-a-1-&-a-2-&-a-3-&-a-4 is fair game.

    I'd (also) say that 'My Heart' is indeed a Viennese Waltz.
    At least it doesn't change tempo on you mid-song, like 'Iris' by the Goo Goo Dolls. 'Iris' goes from a 1-2-3 to a 1-2-3-4 in some places. Really fun to play with, though. (Check out the song ~2:40 - ~3:20, and tell me if I'm crazy...)
  11. alright, thanks for letting me know. I do intend on becoming an avid poster and participant in other topics, so hopefully I'll reach the post point soon enough :)

    Now! back to the topic at hand :grin:
  12. Mengu

    Mengu Active Member

    It seems quite right to me. It's an excellent swing, get's you moving in that 1-a-2 beat.

    Today I watched a very enjoyable hip hop to a string quartet version of Cold Play's Yellow in SYTYCD result show. Love seeing unusual picks like this (though this one wasn't a ballroom example). I danced a foxtrot showcase to Bleeding Love last spring. One could also dance a rumba to it, and it was used as a hip hop in SYTYCD few seasons ago.

    You'll find lots of modern/new songs, and some old, non-traditional ones, that can be used for ballroom. It's a fun game to play, going digging for a good beat.
  13. TAK

    TAK Member

    You're not crazy...it's on the practice playlists on our team's iPods and it drives me nuts...
  14. So what does everyone think of the New Found Glory Song? What, if anything could you dance to it?
  15. Subliminal

    Subliminal Well-Known Member

    Hrm. WCS perhaps? Like you said, maybe an American Rumba would work... but... doesn't really feel like a rumba song.
  16. Hrmm, ok, ya like I thought. Its just got a beat that stands out, but I couldn't really track it in my head with any basic dance count I know.

    The next topic on my list will be Tango's! Its one of the types of dance that has a beat thats very distinctive. When I listen to a classic tango, or most tangos really, I find it easy to track that slow, slow, quick-quick, slow beat. However, when turning to modern music (this meaning within the last 10-15 years, 10 years preferably), and music in genres not traditionally associated with dance, its incredibly hard for me to track a tango beat in a song. Now if someone points out a song, and says, this is a tango, I can listen to it and judge for myself, but its picking them out of my own collection or spotting them on the radio that so far has escaped me. So, in what I foresee as a never ending quest, I'm searching for modern music to tango to.

    Some runners up already just band wise are Metallica, Rihanna, U2, and Regina Spektor, to name a few. After listening over some tracks I'll be posting them up to see what yall think, however, if you can think of any that meet the criteria above; Modern as described, and in a none classic genre done by a popular artist, and not a dance remix, then please share them. Anything would be greatly appreciated!

    Oh, as a side note however, I've got two more little criteria. One, I'd prefer to stay away from movie themes, or sound tracks that aren't recieving radio play, or didn't recieve radio play as it may have been. For example you could use the tango from Mulan Rouge, but that in my book defeats the point of this whole interest of mine I've started here :p The second, is by popular I mean, if you went up to someone on the street and asked them if they have at least heard of this band, group, singer, song, they may know. Stuff that is popular just to dancers, doesn't particulartily fit the bill in this circumstance.

    Thanks as always,
    -Chris
  17. TAK

    TAK Member

    Elevation definitely seems better to me as a cha cha...and Fidelity as a rumba. Disturbia I could see as either cha cha or tango.
  18. TAK

    TAK Member

    On DWTS someone did a tango to Lady Gaga's "Pokerface" IIRC.
  19. Was it unedited?

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