General Dance Discussion > Paid dance Social/event with your dance teacher for the entire event time?

Discussion in 'General Dance Discussion' started by anntennis, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. anntennis

    anntennis Active Member

    Paid dance Social/event with your dance teacher for the entire event time?


    Did anybody go to a dance social /event with your dance teacher/ instructor as a paid dance partner for the entire event?

    I got this idea from Golf playing lesson, it is for as little golf as I practiced before dance- the teacher plays with you 9 holes. It usually takes at least 3 hours and there is a flat or hourly fee depending on the pro.

    Perhaps, it is nothing new in the dance world for the experienced dancers.

    Of course, the teacher have to dance only with you, and as many dances as it is possible. As close to a dance paid fairy tale as you get. Well, we pay pro/Am. We pay ski instructor, doctor, massage therapist. What the difference, I thought.

    I want to dance all night, and not to wait when and what man invite me and how often.

    I asked one instructor I took a lot of private lessons with to go to an event of my interest (not his work studio) and he said “Most likely YES, but I have to think about it”, but before the event he changed his mind and said that he can lose his job if people he knows will see him there. I got upset and felt rejected, but still wanted to dance with professional all 3-4 hours on that, what I call “ball”

    I did asked another teacher from a different studio and we agreed on a flat fee for 4 hours, reasonable, all cash.

    He is a very skillful Pro/Am, he is independent, and he went, and danced with me all 4 hours non-stop. I had such a great time dancing, and if my budget allows, will do it again.


    I feel comfortable to compete with him Pro/Am in the future now.
     
  2. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    This is not uncommon in Jersey. There is no negative stigma for the pro or the student. I have done this, both solo with pro and also splitting the cost & sharing him with another dancer.

    Two hours is sufficient for me, if I dance every Standard & every Latin song. Haven't done this for awhile, but it is truly enjoyable.
     
  3. GJB

    GJB Well-Known Member

    I would guess that most studios would not want their instructors to do this. So, no reason to be upset with him.
     
  4. anntennis

    anntennis Active Member

    Yes!!

    Perhapes, people of older generation compare that kind of practice almost like hiring a romantic partner and look at that like taboo or that something wrong with a woman who can do that.

    But I compare it to a all kind of instructors for wich time you paying to get good quality service and has nothing to do with romance. To dance well all the dancers, to get a lot of practice, to have fun


    Yes, it should be a level of comfort with your teacher, and it is best to ask who you know is a great instructor/teacher for a paid social.


    Socials are often outnumbered by woman, and I read conversation about asking man to dance and some agonizing experiences we, woman go through , and rejection, and hurt, and self-worth issues, and some psychos, and after all they are not dancing like pros after all, why just not to share a good instructor between 2-3 woman and pay him to dance well. At least sometimes.
     
  5. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    I think some pros are in a better position than others to do that, if they actually wanted to... I can't see many wanting to though I could see some being willing to...I know that I would pay a good pro heap big mulah to go to a social dance....I just don't happen to know any who would...while it may be common out east...I have never seen it here in my corner of the midwest...and I could see it being speculated upon in a not very positive light out thisaways
     
  6. Standarddancer

    Standarddancer Well-Known Member

    that's not a new thing, I've heard about this for a long time and remember at a party seeing many male dancers get paid by their students or other ladies who just want a party dance companion. some dance teachers charge regular hourly rate and some start calculating hours from the minute the lady pick him up at his home door until the minute she sent him back to his home. All charges varies, you just have to talk to your teacher directly see how much he charges.
     
  7. reb

    reb Active Member

    Taxi! And just leave the meter running . . . :D
     
  8. Stagekat

    Stagekat Member

    I know it's not unheard of for a studio to actually have this offered...for their instructors to go out to a social dance event with a student. We call it "renting a dance partner" ...I don't know what the studios call it...I've known it to have an hourly rate or a flat rate is possible sometimes too. I've considered it, but haven't had an event come up where I find it's so vitally important that I be able to show off my skills (like at a wedding reception, or charity event).
     
  9. Gorme

    Gorme Active Member

    They're called dance escorts here. It's usually a male pro being hired by 1-3 female students to be shared throughout the evening. The women who hire them normally do not get asked to dance much. The price quoted for the evening (~ 3 hours) is a little less than paying for private lessons in the same amount of time.
     
  10. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    HURRY up;)
     
  11. emeralddancer

    emeralddancer Active Member

    I think it is a great idea. The benefits to this type of arrangement would be great for the gal. LOL

    But I think one of the cons would be, if you take said paid partner to a social, I thought the rule of thumb was to dance with various people. So wouldn't ALOT of people men AND women be a wee bit upset if a couple was "exclusive"? Regardless of the arrangement? (especially if there are fewer men than women?)

    I would do this if I actually threw a party and wanted to show off to my non-dancing friends. (I know it is a bit "showy" BUT many of my friends would then be able to dance with him too and hopefully sign up with him for classes ...they keep saying they are interested ...It would be a great motivator to bring him to them and they then see if it is what they might do. Make sense?)
     
  12. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    well...in my case...most of the men at the socials I attend are intimidated so I wouldn't be deprieving them of a thing
     
  13. anntennis

    anntennis Active Member

    No sharing!! It is the same as you pay for your own private tennis lesson, 3 hour of ski lesson, massage session, personal trainer, so in this case you pay your instructor a fee of 3 or 4 dance lessons, and his time is exclusivly yours - you pay for that as privates multiply by 4.
     
  14. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    I've heard of it before. Seems like a reasonable idea, particularly if going to a venue where you're unknown and/or wouldn't be asked to dance much.

    antennis, I definitely wouldn't take it seriously that he said no. Studios can have their own reasons for prohibiting a teacher from doing this. Also, you don't know what else your teacher may have had going on that evening...perhaps the original "possibly, likely" response was predicated on seeing what his SO felt about it, or if prior plans worked out, or who knows what. Just because you're willing and able to pay a good hourly rate for his time, doesn't mean that he's obligated to take you up on it.

    Also, while dancing is recreation for the students, it's WORK for the teacher. Sure, they might enjoy it (hopefully they do), but it's still a job. And I don't know about you, but even when I've had jobs that I've loved, I was still looking forward to doing something different when I wasn't there. :) Added to that, I imagine it's got to be kinda tiring to be on your feet and dancing all day long...I can see wanting to not do that on a day off.
     
  15. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    personally, I would have loved to have done this w/ FP... a) b/c I enjoyed his company and B) b/c it would have been a great way for us to work on lead and follow and floorcraft...plus I would know that every dance would be pleasant...but lol...I don't think there would be a price high enough...he generally avoided parties even when he worked at a studio...shrug...ya can't have everything you want...again, while stagekat is about an hour and a half away from me...it is simply unheard of around here...
     
  16. emeralddancer

    emeralddancer Active Member

    Anntennis - I understand. :)
     
  17. emeralddancer

    emeralddancer Active Member

    Hehee Fasc ... I know a few instructors that TRY to avoid the studios socials. But somehow they get roped in on occasion. LOL :D
     
  18. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    yep...I used to have so much fun watching how long FP would hold out...
     
  19. JJ

    JJ Member

    Anntennis, it's actually a very common phenomenon in Asia for students to hire their teachers to social dance with them. In fact, there are some teachers who make the bulk of their income from social dancing with students. i even heard that there are some top class european dancers who make periodic trips to asia to supplement their income by social dancing with students. however, i think the rule is that the student needs to choose beforehand whether s/he wants to dance ballroom or latin. the sessions are usually either in the afternoons (called tea dance) or evenings (called dinner dance). tea dance is usually from 3pm-6pm and dinner dance is usually from 8pm-midnight. the venue is usually at a restaurant that has a dance floor. in terms of cost, the student pays for the teacher's time and the cost of the venue (ie. the food and drink that are consumed between them).
     
  20. Joe

    Joe Well-Known Member

    Paid for every dance, selling each romance
    Every night some heart betraying
     

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