Event Announcements > Seventh Annual Boston University Terrier Dancesport Competition

Discussion in 'Event Announcements' started by BM, May 3, 2007.

  1. BM

    BM New Member

    Hmh, sounds like a good way to keep the numbers in line and the competitors satisfied. Duly noted.

    Star of the North DanceSport Competition
    Feb 16 - 17, 2008
    Minneapolis, MN
    -usabda.org

    Classique du Quebec is also that weekend, and I think Florida may be having a comp (have to double-check, though).

    True, but if I go too far outside of the box, my budget may not break even. ;)
     
  2. Chris Stratton

    Chris Stratton New Member

    I was actually meaning the surrounding few weeks rather than literal conflicts. BU had tended to sit nicely as one of relatively few choices in the gap between MAC and the later spring college comps. I think Princeton is now in there somewhere, but will have to see what else is going on from the "far south of Boston" perspective.
     
  3. NielsenE

    NielsenE Active Member

    The weekend before is Eastern (NDCA), two weeks before is the tentative new Yale date. The week after is Clover Star (UPenn/Princeton)

    Plans A&C, are basically creating a "Latin/Rhythm" day and a "Standard/Smooth" day.
    Plan C, additionally is a nice schedule for syllabus 10-dancers, they can travel Sat morning, sun afternoon, and still make all their events. Champion 10-dancers are penalized.

    Plan B creates "International" and "American" days, aside from the cross style issue with the championship events.

    Most other collegiate two day competitions used the
    Standard/Rhythm and Latin/Smooth pairing to mix up both american v rhythm and latiny v ballroomy styles. -- or they've evolved to even more esoteric combinations.

    I'm very interested in plan B -- I've wanted to see how "niche" competitions could word -- ie American Only or International Only or syllabus only events with Master of Syllabus instead of Open, etc since I feel the New England circuit has lost some of its charm of the very unique and individual competitions. Plan B lets a regular competition attempt to have two possibly different atmosphere sub-comps, that i personally find intrigueing.


    BU's normal rules haven't allowed a couple to do both Novice and Open in the same style. If that's still true, I'd push for moving Championship Standard to Saturday under plan B to keep the keep Sunday purely American. I understand you have other reasons for needing to keep Open Rhythm on Saturday....
     
  4. NielsenE

    NielsenE Active Member

    Another options to consider -- move all the open to Saturday night, and all the newcomer to Sunday. I think you'd also need to move the formation team to saturday to balance the times then. Probably start from B (International v American days for syllabus) with Open on the international day and newcomer on the american day.

    Given the current attitudes of open dancers, I can't see many choosing to travel to compete in a Sunday evening event.
     
  5. BM

    BM New Member

    All Open on Saturuday

    I was thinking about whether or not we could finagle the schedule so that all Open events are on Saturday. I'll probably toss some numbers around later this evening to see if it's feasible. If it is, then get ready to say hello to Plan D.

    Edit: Plan D added. I think that I prefer this schedule so far.
     
  6. IlyZislin

    IlyZislin Active Member

    From what I understand it's UPenn, not Princeton, and the date is 2/23 or something of the sorts...
     
  7. Anna

    Anna New Member

    Unfortunately, Penn is indeed holding their own competition and I don't know what Princeton will do, if anything (too many comps in the spring anyways).
     
  8. NielsenE

    NielsenE Active Member

    (Sorry for hijacking BM), so Clover is no longer a jointly hosted competition?
     
  9. Kitty

    Kitty New Member

    What is that supposed to mean? :)))
     
  10. NielsenE

    NielsenE Active Member

    open dancers are generally prima donnas :p, at least in the college circuit, and if they aren't treated like royalty they can get quite obnoxious ;)
     
  11. and123

    and123 Well-Known Member

    Kee-ripes. Give them the 8 am slot and see how they like it :rolleyes:
    (kidding!)
     
  12. NielsenE

    NielsenE Active Member

    howabout a 3am slot? :)
     
  13. Katarzyna

    Katarzyna Well-Known Member

    I vote for 3am.. I am a lot more awake at night than in the morning..
    but seriously, if someone treats their dancing seriously, there is no point to go to a competition if there isnt even an opportunity to dance... competition has to have some sort of an incentive for higher level couples to show. be it, amasing big floor, many couples to compete against, convenient time/location.. or whatever.. but something is needed..
    Like MIT has a huge floor to dance on, and a big field... there is a reason to go there.. now DCDI is looking like over 15 couples in open, that makes it worthwhile too.
     
  14. Kitty

    Kitty New Member

    Prima donnas? it is true that open dancers will pick and choose which competitions to go to.. however, for different reasons.
    And I wouldn't call them primadonnas.
    When have you seen a silver level couple travel 4-5 hours to compete in one event that is a straight final? Open couples do it all the time!!!!!! I am pretty sure I saw you at Empire State Championship, and I am pretty sure there were not many Boston couples competing in syllabus levels at that event.
    The reason why it looks like open level couples are harder to lure to a competition is because there are just less of them per square mile, so you have to convince couples from far away to travel to the comp in order to have a decent turnout.. Also, since open level couples are rarely a part of a college team, they have to figure out their own transportation, which adds to the inconvinience of traveling far.. I think there will be no problem convincing local open couples to show up at BU or Brown.
     
  15. Kitty

    Kitty New Member

    I really enjoyed dancing in the spot lights at Harvard competition.:)

    The University orchestra in which I participated had both little chamber recitals and grand performances on big stage. The yearly recitals of Handel's Messiah took about 3 weeks to prepare and were performed in a smaller room and in a less formal atmosphere. The big performances took about a semester of weekly rehearsals, but were performed in a professional environment on a big stage. Would be disappointing to perform half a year of work in someone's basement.

    Back to the snide 8 am comment: I don't mind, however, dancing for the audience is a part of the skill that open level dancers are working on and want to demonstrate. I doubt there will be a lot of attentive audience at 8 am.
     
  16. BM

    BM New Member

    As of now, all Open events will take place on Saturday evening, so no need to worry about 8.00am competitors. Kitty made a very valid point - Open dancers are not as available as collegiate syllabus competitors. They also tend to specialise, so whereas syllabus competitors don't have to travel far for great competition in several dances, Open dancers may travel for hours, perhaps even book an evening in a hotel, to compete against only seven other couples, in four or five dances, just once. It's perfectly understandable that they will want it to be worth their while, particularly for collegiate comps, which often don't even have scholarships.

    However, let's perhaps keep that debate to another thread and reserve this one for BU Comp chat. :)
     
  17. Kitty

    Kitty New Member

    That means couples won't be able to travel from far away.
     
  18. Katarzyna

    Katarzyna Well-Known Member

    my first thought when I saw that announcement
     
  19. BM

    BM New Member

    I can't believe I wrote "Friday." I'm sorry, I'm exhausted - I meant Saturday.

    All Open events are SATURDAY evening.
     
  20. Chris Stratton

    Chris Stratton New Member

    Well, I had a whole ballroom team's worth of bronze competitors crash in my living room the year MIT did the preliminary round. They'd driven umpteen hours, and they all got cut after TWO dances per style, not even an entire first round!

    But yes, this barely-get-on-the-floor kind of thing makes competitions unattractive, regardless of why or at which level it occurs.
     

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