Tango Argentino > Videos > Troilo, the LCM between the worlds

Discussion in 'Videos' started by opendoor, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. bordertangoman

    bordertangoman Well-Known Member

    HMM EXperienced something along those lines this weekend; guest dj plays a lot of 'B' side stuff that the locals dont know, and was frankly neither simple to accommodate thier relative inexperience, nor good (according to the BA experienced dancer.) So fail on all accounts. i sat a lot of it out, too many cantas for my taste.
  2. UKDancer

    UKDancer Well-Known Member

    I don't care why a DJ plays poor quality music, but plenty do. There is far more good music available than just the limited repertoire of the immediately familiar though, but unless you are going to offer a very odd programme, there are few enough opportunities to promote music you believe to be good and worth being better known. I look upon it as the leaven in the lump.

    When I'm formulating a playlist I try to come up with a balanced selection: the familiar and the less so; all the main orchestras, and a complimentary selection of secondary ones; a mixture of periods, and a balance between vocal and instrumental tracks. I play a small selection of contemporary and alternative music, as well as the traditional, and those can be the hardest selections to incorporate satisfactorily.

    Few DJs get it right all the time, but a good DJ should be a bit like a waiter in a good restaurant - hardly noticed and certainly drawing no attention to his role. There is, however, a very high probability that he knows his music better than most of the dancers, some of whom appear to be only vaguely aware that there is music playing at all, but it is equally probable that there is lots of worthwhile music with which the DJ is not familiar himself.

    How big is the music collection of most DJs? I've no idea.
  3. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    There are much more poor tangos around than actually good ones.
    a) some DJs submit to the taste of the majority of dancers
    b) ..
  4. UKDancer

    UKDancer Well-Known Member

    I looked at my own collection. It has been carefully rated (by me) on a range of 1 to 5 stars. Five star tracks can be counted in single figures, and they are genuinely something particularly special. One star tracks are ones that I would never dance to, and really the only reason I don't just send them to the recycle bin is as a reminder that I have already bought them and think that they're rubbish.

    Two star tracks are below average, or are OK musically but have particularly poor sound, and I wouldn't expect to use them for dancing. Three star songs are of a good danceable standard. They don't stand out, but they don't offend. A whole milonga of them would be rather dull, but many are perfectly acceptable as part of a balanced programme. Four star songs are the ones that I really like, think to be of high quality, and would be very happy to dance to all night. A milonga comprised of exclusively four star songs would be really good.

    So how do the numbers stack up:

    • 5 star: 0.3%
    • 4 star: 23%
    • 3-star: 58%
    • 1 & 2 star: the remainder.

    So my own judgment tells me that fewer than 1 in 4 songs I have acquired (and they are all discs from the major import labels, chosen as carefully as possible, and often after input from specialist review sites and advice) are 'good' for dancing. Most of my playlists are drawn predominantly from those 4 star songs. Lots of them are well known, but equally, there are lots that are not. They are all familiar to me though, through regular listening, and I dance to them as much as I can. I always watch the dancefloor carefully, for signs that I have chosen unwisely, but usually, I am quite happy with the feedback I receive at my milongas.
  5. dchester

    dchester Moderator Staff Member

    That might be because they want to be invited back. Nothing wrong with that, BTW.

    However, I also think a DJ should try to inspire the dancers, and occasionally expose them to some selected songs that are less commonly played, (but only if the DJ really thinks they are special). It can be risky to do this however, as often, the reason a song is less commonly played is because less people like it. That's why the DJ really needs to think the song is special, and not just OK.
  6. UKDancer

    UKDancer Well-Known Member

    On second thoughts, never mind...

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