Tango Argentino > What are you currently 'working on' in A.T.?-Vol.II

Discussion in 'Tango Argentino' started by Mario7, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. Subliminal

    Subliminal Well-Known Member

    Continuing to work on this. It's supposedly an advanced technique, but it's coming to me way more easily than a lot of other things. I like it!
  2. Subliminal

    Subliminal Well-Known Member

    Also, more on ganchos/legwraps. I think I've got a better grasp of positioning, which seems like it's 95% of the step...
  3. Zoopsia59

    Zoopsia59 Well-Known Member

    I think that's true of most every step in tango! But now that you understand that, you should make rapid progress! :D
  4. Subliminal

    Subliminal Well-Known Member

    heh, thanks! :D

    ETA: Well yes, I sort of understood that already, I just keep forgetting it! ;) Specifically, I was having a lot of trouble with the wrap in the giro until I was reminded of that fact. Once you have the perfect position, it's just a slight shift of the leader's leg, no effort at all.
  5. Angel HI

    Angel HI Well-Known Member

    I keep saying it.
    And, in time, we all learn.
  6. Mario7

    Mario7 Member

    Concentrating only on the woman's feet...where her weight/momentum, etc. is...
    I've found that one of the DISadvantages of practicing alone is that; although I kept 'seeing' the woman's feet, I didn't do it to the extent and with the care that I needed to. And after much practice, I found that my Giros at a real dance with a partner were worse not better. Thankfully, I was able to make the adjustment and I gave up my solo lapiz turns for simply paying attention to the woman's steps in the Giro. It worked and it even got me a new practice partner! will wonders never cease? ...no
  7. tanjive

    tanjive New Member

    Some people on here, with a particular blog, might just say "It's all about her". Do you get the point? Fancy foot work is just icing, get all the rest to a high standard then worry about it. By then you probably care little for them anyway.
  8. dchester

    dchester Moderator Staff Member

    While I will at times do a lapiz or planeo during turns, you can't do them with every follower (nor in every situation). The follower needs to be precise enough to consistently step on the imaginary circle around you (not keep changing how close or away she is from you).

    Of course, your balance needs to be good enough to withstand some minor fluctuations in what she does. Also, the more crowded it is, the more difficult (and/or less suitable) they become.
  9. Subliminal

    Subliminal Well-Known Member

    Last week was apilado, now I'm playing with colgadas and volcadas! Messing with the axis is fun. And scary. heh. The colgadas are feeling particularly awkward... it's tough to break the "stay forward" training.

    I'm pondering where these would fit in the music. I'm almost thinking they work better done slow, like dragging over the duration of a note or over a sliding scale.
  10. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    I find that colgadas, espcially, tend to fit better with electronic or alternative music. Not terribly shocking--modern move, modern music.
  11. Mario7

    Mario7 Member

    We got a whole new Tango scene suddenly with people from out-of-town heading it up! One young woman with 12 yrs experience is giving class at $3.50 a class and is just interested in covering her travel expenses to get here. Anyway, I got to dance a couple of tandas with her and I let it all hang out...all over the place...no inhibitions and she seemed to really like it...of course afterwards, she mentioned a couple things to work on. But I am stoked to have such a great dancer pay some attention to my dance. And to be able to push the envelope like never before!!
    I'm still experiencing dificulties with the Giro and so I will re read the excellent thread on starting them and add a post if all my questions are not answered... at last, I have a future in this dance...and I have a couple of new practice partners, too!
  12. Zoopsia59

    Zoopsia59 Well-Known Member

    Wow! $3.50 per class? That's EXCELLENT! I pay more than that for a practica! Congrats on finding a tango "home" and some peeps to keep you progressing. :D
  13. Subliminal

    Subliminal Well-Known Member

    First real lesson in a while. Back to the basics... walking, musical interpretation, and maintaining perfect connection all the way through rotational movements. My teacher picked a variation on the ocho cortado with a much higher rotation than the usual one to illustrate some of these concepts. It was a harder than I thought... guess it goes to show you can't get stuck doing things one way or you don't improve.
  14. Mladenac

    Mladenac Well-Known Member

    sacadas in giro
  15. Subliminal

    Subliminal Well-Known Member

    More walking. Seems to go in cycles. I pick up more and more walking techniques, until eventually my teacher tells me to forget everything and start back at the beginning with how I walk on the street. Then we start building back up.

    Arg. So frustrating.
  16. Mario7

    Mario7 Member

    An intuitive piece of advice... make the music everything....forget the 'technique'..you will be suprised to find that the innovative creativity comes from someplace else.
  17. Zoopsia59

    Zoopsia59 Well-Known Member

    Working on not letting the comments of others get to me... it really messes with my head and my enjoyment.
  18. Steve Pastor

    Steve Pastor Moderator Staff Member

    For me that's ALWAYS a work in progress!
  19. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    next step?

    Difficult to start, and difficult to explain (especially in a different language) I am working on a different self-concept. And it wasn´t my idea. You know I had a lot of privates with Karin Solana Brennan (a former ballerina and really blessed tango teacher). She said, you are NO beginner any more, but so often you dance so as if: mistakes, laxity, sudden additonal repair, non-attention, hesitancy... would cloud all my progress. And indeed, I dont take it that seriously sometimes, for I dont want to be a priest or representative on the dance floor. Already to many dancers below my level tend to that sort of self-staging. I want Tango to be playful and unsophisticated. Do I bear a different responsibility, now? What is different for an artist. What are his mental properties? What makes a real good tango dancer besides technique and musicality? What am I lacking? I am a little bit confused, just now??
  20. Ampster

    Ampster Active Member

    As a next step, I would recommend that (I think) it is time for you to just "Let go, and let things happen!"

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