I can always tell when a guy is at an activity just to meet women and doesn't really care about the activity itself. I used to be in a volunteer group for singles and sometimes a guy would show up for one of the meetings and you could see him scanning the room to decide if he liked any of the women. If he didn't find anyone to his liking, (or if he did but the woman wasn't favorable in return), then you'd never see the guy again. As it happened I did date a couple guys through that volunteer group, but that was after being in the group for months. Wolfgang, you're absolutely right that single guys are often advised to take dance lessons to meet women (and the advice usually comes from people who know nothing about the dance world) - still, nothing wrong with that advice per se, it just that the expectations need to be appropriate. Seems to me that if you take up a hobby, it isn't worth investing the time and money unless you actually enjoy the hobby itself. I bet I could meet lots of men if I took up, say, fly fishing. But you'll never see me getting up at the crack of dawn to put on hip waders; it's just not my thing. There are always singles bars, speed dating and personal ads if the goal is solely romance.