I don't know because I am new to CW Dancing but I can tell you why the old time Social Dancing has vanished. The old time dances generally started with Quick Quick. Some did one slow after the two Quick's, some did a Quick Quick, &, Quick, some did Quick, Quick, Slow Slow. The old time Rumba was Quick, Quick, Slow. The old time Cha was 1,2,3,&,4. (You can bank on someday hearing someone teach CW Two Step as, Slow Slow, Quick, Quick.) The old time dances came down from generation to generation and the they were taught to people by friends and relatives so everyone wanted them to be easy to learn. When the for profit studio chains came they had to make dancing harder so they could make more money teaching it. They also wanted to say that they "Made Up" the dance steps, so they changed basic from Q,Q,S timing to, Slow, Quick Quick,. Still later they changed to have the dancers start on the 2ND beat. (Again to make it more difficult so they could make more money.) Back in the Eighties those who made these changes found that they could not get new dancers so they raided the old time social dances of their people. One of the tricks they used on us was to make fun of the way we looked. (We had never danced for mirror or a camera so we didn't look as good as they did.) Over the next thirty years the Competitive Instructors completely destroyed the old Social Ballroom Dance activity. They took all of our peopleand used them up,,,, but, now they have run out of us, so they are going after you guys. Once again they find themselves without enough dancers so they have come after yours. If you check it out, you will find that nearly all of the top people in CW Dancing are now taking lessons from the same International Instructors who killed the old Social Dance. (Exactly what happened to us in the late Eighties.) Why did West Coast Swing do so well for so long? They made it easy! Now they, as well as you, are following in our foot steps. I see that most of your top leaders are now pushing competition. I see lots of timing changes being pushed. I now see dancers taking International Ballroom lessons. (Your leaders will find out like ours did that if you are teaching International Ballroom, ,,, sooner or later your students will ask themselves why they don't take their lessons from the International Ballroom Instructor guy who teaches you!) I want to make it clear that I have no problem with International Ballroom as an activity for those who actually want to compete. I do have a problem with them raiding other dance forms and then causing those dance forms to die. That said, I fully understand that these Instructors need students to survive. I understand that they will go where ever they have to go and take whose ever dancers they need to take to make a living for them selves. What I don't understand is why everyone knells at their feet and hands their dancers over to them. In the end, after the Competition Dance leaders drain the swamp of all the dancers, they will die off because they simply can not exist without stealing other peoples dancers and there will no longer be anymore dancers to steal.