I have been revisiting the 8CB as people keep asking about it, and i have noticed something quite strange: It seems that some time in the 90's the 6-7-8 changed from a turn into a box (and example of the "old" (original?) 8cb: ) - the line from todaro (who afaik invented the salida (and it roughly matches how he starts his performances in the ones that i have seen on video)) to zotto is clear. copes looks very similar around that time, too, and while gavito presents something slightly different (and to me a bit more "milonga ready") as his 8CB, he also had a turn at the end. Completely aside from the 8CB's utility or not as the first thing that a lot of beginners get taught, does anybody have any idea who/why this turn got lost? One idea i had is that somebody wanted to be able to chain it - turning it from the "entrance"/ first sequence into an actual "basic step"? Did anybody witness that change?