Argentine Tango - Want To Learn...

Spitfire

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#1
I'm interested in learning Argentine Tango. Do I understand correctly that there is no basic pattern?

I understand that it can be tricky to learn. What is the aspect that makes this so?
 

SDsalsaguy

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#2
From what I understand, what makes Argentine Tango so tricky is that steps are not what you are leading and following but, rather, individual weight changes. I too am interested in learning so will have to leave it to someone better versed then I to explain further....
 

DanceMentor

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#3
There is a common basic.
Man's part:
Back on the right foot
Side on the left foot
Forward on the right foot outside partner
Forward on the Left Foot
Bring Right foot together
Forward on the Left Foot
Side on the Right Foot
Bring Left Foot Together

Lady's Part:
Forward on the Left Foot
Side on the Right Foot
Back on the Left Foot
Back on the Right Foot
Cross the Left Foot in Front on the Right Foot
Back Side Together (RLR)

This is often danced Slow, Slow, Slow, Quick, Hold (the cross), Quick, Quick Slow. But the music and the dancer's interpretaton both play a roll. Sometimes the first or second steps of this common basic are excluded.
 
#4
You are exactly right. No basic. Be very, very wary of people who say there is a basic pattern. It could take a long, long time to get it out of your head and learn to dance.
 
#7
It is a yes and no answer.

In the "old days" in Argentina only men learned the dance and it was a womans role to follow. This does not negate the need for partnership skills.

The true Tangouera would say the most important step in Argentine Tango is the walk. I believe this too. As a lady I have to move and follow but it is the skill and the walk that is most important.

There are patterns to learn but it is more important to move because the Argentine Tango is the expression of the music. It moves slow and fast and is moody and joyful.

Find a good instructor and learn both the Mans and the woman's part. It will make the dance more enjoyable because you learn what signals your partner receives.
 

SDsalsaguy

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#8
Re: It is a yes and no answer.

golddancer said:
Find a good instructor and learn both the Mans and the woman's part. It will make the dance more enjoyable because you learn what signals your partner receives.
Welcome to the forums golddancer! :D

This is excellent advice, for any dance I think!
 

SDsalsaguy

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#10
Spitfire said:
Pretty good; I see now where it certainly does not have any structured pattern. I take it that the man can use his own innovations?
Sounds about what I expected. Now that you've had some exposure, would you say that my initial impression (quoted again below) seems right?

SDsalsaguy said:
From what I understand, what makes Argentine Tango so tricky is that steps are not what you are leading and following but, rather, individual weight changes.
 

Spitfire

Well-Known Member
#11
SDsalsaguy said:
Spitfire said:
Pretty good; I see now where it certainly does not have any structured pattern. I take it that the man can use his own innovations?
Sounds about what I expected. Now that you've had some exposure, would you say that my initial impression (quoted again below) seems right?

SDsalsaguy said:
From what I understand, what makes Argentine Tango so tricky is that steps are not what you are leading and following but, rather, individual weight changes.
Exactly; since there is no pattern it seems to be pretty much body leading.
 
#12
Spitfire said:
SDsalsaguy said:
Spitfire said:
Pretty good; I see now where it certainly does not have any structured pattern. I take it that the man can use his own innovations?
Sounds about what I expected. Now that you've had some exposure, would you say that my initial impression (quoted again below) seems right?

SDsalsaguy said:
From what I understand, what makes Argentine Tango so tricky is that steps are not what you are leading and following but, rather, individual weight changes.
Exactly; since there is no pattern it seems to be pretty much body leading.

Where did you take your lesson :?:
 

Spitfire

Well-Known Member
#13
MissAlyssa said:
Spitfire said:
SDsalsaguy said:
Spitfire said:
Pretty good; I see now where it certainly does not have any structured pattern. I take it that the man can use his own innovations?
Sounds about what I expected. Now that you've had some exposure, would you say that my initial impression (quoted again below) seems right?

SDsalsaguy said:
From what I understand, what makes Argentine Tango so tricky is that steps are not what you are leading and following but, rather, individual weight changes.
Exactly; since there is no pattern it seems to be pretty much body leading.

Where did you take your lesson :?:
From the studio where I go dancing. They have a class on Argentine Tango every Saturday afternoon at 2:00. The first hour is beginning and the second is intermediate.
 
#14
Here's another thing that can make AT difficult for a leader. The dancers can dance on a different foot or the same foot. That is, left for leader and left for follower. That is illegal and unheard of in most dances. It gives it a lot of variety, especially with the pivots. Let's imagine that both dancers are on the right foot. The leader wants to move to his left. The follower's weight is on her right foot. How can she move? She pivots. Maybe that is why AT is full of what people call ochos.
I've known a lot of people who were pretty good at ballroom and just didn't get AT. Then, I've known some people who were good at ballroom, took one authentic AT class, and never danced ballroom again. I've never really met anybody anywhere in between. What do you think?
 

Spitfire

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#15
will35 said:
Here's another thing that can make AT difficult for a leader. The dancers can dance on a different foot or the same foot. That is, left for leader and left for follower. That is illegal and unheard of in most dances. It gives it a lot of variety, especially with the pivots. Let's imagine that both dancers are on the right foot. The leader wants to move to his left. The follower's weight is on her right foot. How can she move? She pivots. Maybe that is why AT is full of what people call ochos.
I've known a lot of people who were pretty good at ballroom and just didn't get AT. Then, I've known some people who were good at ballroom, took one authentic AT class, and never danced ballroom again. I've never really met anybody anywhere in between. What do you think?
What do I think?

Will let you know as I progress. :)
 
#17
I know it is challenging the switching of the feet ... it is contrary to ballroom. But it is one of the key "spices" of the dance.

I still do ballroom and A. T. and it is requires a lot of concentration to keep them seperate.

I have the most fun dancing American tango with an AT tango because we mix the two. American tango has its roots in Arg Tango.

I am going to a dance tonight and maybe will get a chance to do both.


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