Cheaper alternative to private lessons?

fascination

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#61
OK, at risk of taking this thread in a completely different direction, I want to ask a question. It's my thread, so guess I can take it where I want to.

How old are most people who compete? From watching Dancing with the Stars, I've gotten the impression that most people who compete successfully or are pros are in their mid-20's. But, as we just discussed, most people at dance studios are much older than that. I was thinking that at 29 I was too old to just be starting ballroom dance and expecting to be able to compete (or possibly even teach) someday. I mean, to be a professional ballet or modern dancer, you have to be *really* good by the time you're 18 or you're out of luck.
depends...I saw some excellent dancers in their 60s last weekend...Victor Russo's lady....to name just one...wish I could recall her name...personally, I think it serves no useful purpose to ponder one's limitations...only to maximize one's advantages
 

etp777

Active Member
#62
While I also highly suggest looking into independent teachers as a way to save money, just remember that the independent teacher is not always going to be a better use of your money. I know of one studnet in area (or area where I used to be, anyway), that worked with teacher at a chain studio and an independent teacher, and the chain teacher was DEFINITELY better, both a better dancer, and a better teacher.
 
#63
Heh, I had a feeling Terpsichorean Clod was going to link another thread. :) I'm not very good at finding what I'm looking for by searching, so I appreciate that.
 
#64
You can compete at any age. Competitions are divided by age category and, at pro-am comps, the top group is 80+. (I sometimes joke with my teacher that I have my eye on an over-80 championship--cuz it will take me that long to get good enough :D)
 
#65
Thanks for the replies regarding age. I read that other thread and got the info I was looking for, so there's no need to reply about that anymore . . . unless, of course, you want to. :)
 
#66
Heh, I had a feeling Terpsichorean Clod was going to link another thread. :) I'm not very good at finding what I'm looking for by searching, so I appreciate that.
Perhaps I'm better suited for a career as a librarian than as an actuary. Speaking of which, I've met one actuary who plays the lottery. :shock:
 
#67
You can compete at any age. Competitions are divided by age category and, at pro-am comps, the top group is 80+. (I sometimes joke with my teacher that I have my eye on an over-80 championship--cuz it will take me that long to get good enough :D)
You're just planning to outlive your competition, aren't you? ;)
 
#71
You're an actuary? Sweet! I love meeting other math geeks. I met a statistician once who also regularly plays the lottery. Wacko . . . ;)

So, I can't seem to stop thinking about my dilemma here. I've thought about being straight up and telling my teacher that I can't afford to take any more lessons from him. I've thought about playing the game and acting like I can't decide so they'll keep trying to sell me on the next level. The latter is totally not my style, though. I think what I'm going to do is wait until they take me into the little room to talk prices. I'm going to flat-out tell them how much I can afford. If they can give me something that fits my criteria, then great. It certainly won't be the standard package their hoping to sell me, but maybe they'll want to keep my business enough to work with me. With the small amount I can afford, I doubt I'd get much more than group lessons and parties, but at least that way I won't have to change studios if I decide I don't want to. Most likely they'll tell me I'm out of luck and that they don't have any packages that cheap. In that case, I'll say thank you and goodbye.

Now . . . we'll see if I feel the same way tomorrow. :)
 
#72
OK, at risk of taking this thread in a completely different direction, I want to ask a question. It's my thread, so guess I can take it where I want to.

How old are most people who compete? From watching Dancing with the Stars, I've gotten the impression that most people who compete successfully or are pros are in their mid-20's. But, as we just discussed, most people at dance studios are much older than that. I was thinking that at 29 I was too old to just be starting ballroom dance and expecting to be able to compete (or possibly even teach) someday. I mean, to be a professional ballet or modern dancer, you have to be *really* good by the time you're 18 or you're out of luck.
I am 34 and I have been competing for the last 4 years.
 

danceronice

Well-Known Member
#73
The pros I know personally who are competing are in their early thirties (at least the men are.)

While you've got a lot of catching up to do, and lord knows I'm working on that, it's not like ballet or skating, where you're a has-been if you haven't made it by sixteen (in skating--seriously, for women in skating, if you haven't made it out of regionals these days and you're sixteen or older, stick a fork in it, you're done. Switching to dance or pairs is only an option if you can find a partner.) But it's a matter of how much time and energy and money can you commit to it--in my case, I'm single with some alternative means of financial support plus four jobs. I don't have to think about anyone else's schedules or finances.
 
#75
OK . . . I was SO WRONG about my studio! They are wonderful people. Granted, they require long-term contracts, but that's not an uncommon practice.

Today I spoke with one of the higher-up people at the studio about starting a Bronze program. I told her how much I wanted to do it, but then explained how my financial situation had changed since I initially signed up. She said that she would sit down with my teacher and another supervisor and design a smaller program for me that fits the budget I told her I could afford. She could tell that I was rather distressed by the whole situation and she even gave me a hug!

So, I want to take back every negative thing I might have said or suggested about the studio. I'm absolutely thrilled that I'll be able to continue there. I will have to change teachers, which makes me sad, but I've danced with a few of the other male teachers there and I'm sure I'll be fine with whoever I get assigned to next (my teacher is a "specialist," meaning that his main role is to teach new students long enough to design a program for them--then they get passed along to their long-term teacher).

I'm so happy with how this turned out!! :D


As a side note, my teacher's supervisor asked me "On a scale of 1 to 10 how good do you want to get?" Without hesitation, I replied "10!" Is there really any other answer to that question, though? Do people actually say, "I think 5 or 6 would be good enough for me."?
 
#79
You're an actuary? Sweet! I love meeting other math geeks. I met a statistician once who also regularly plays the lottery. Wacko . . . ;)
Well, not quite yet. I'm still working towards a designation (2 more to ASA). Er....I was working on it, but seem to have gotten a little sidetracked with a certain hobby... :oops:

I guess my dancing would probably work best if I danced with an actuary - someone who could predict my leading to within 3 significant figures. :razz:
 
#80
I'm so happy with how this turned out!! :D
Awesome! I'm glad to hear it all worked out so well! :D
Statlady said:
As a side note, my teacher's supervisor asked me "On a scale of 1 to 10 how good do you want to get?" Without hesitation, I replied "10!" Is there really any other answer to that question, though? Do people actually say, "I think 5 or 6 would be good enough for me."?
Everyone may say that they want to be the best, but how many are willing to put in the effort?
 

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