Ok, I'm getting tired of trying to convince people who only do salsa that the image of stiff, stilted, unmusical, unemotional, restrictive ballroom latin is just a bad stereotype . . . that's how it looks watching people who aren't very good at it. I do ballroom latin very well, and I do club salsa very well - few people can say that, and I'm telling you (the generic you, not a specific you) that they aren't nearly as different as everyone would love to make them out to be. Sure, bad salsa and bad ballroom look as different as night and day - but someone who's good at one will find it easy to get good at the other by changing a few stylistic things.