how are your lessons going? thread II

finally a satisfying lesson after a couple weeks of frustrating ones. smooth went well last night. routines and rounds for the next few weeks before comp, to get all the new info settled in my body.
 

Purr

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Lesson yesterday on WCS...theme of the lesson seemed to be picking apart every single detail...don't think we got more than 3 measures of anything before a correction...most of the time it was 1 measure...after awhile I suggested maybe we should move to AT for the remainder of the lesson...and yet more detail picking...next week I am going to suggest putting on music and just trying out what I've learned/not learned...

Studio is hosting WCS event in a couple of weeks...looks like a fun event...was actually considering going for small part of it...like the beginner group class... but after yesterday's lesson my confidence took a nose dive...told pro I don't want to go now because I'll just look foolish...I haven't come far enough yet to go...you can't break down a dance and put it back together without a lot of setbacks...
 

Purr

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It was just a messy lesson...pro seems to have high expectations of what I can do...and he was highly outspoken when I didn't get it exactly right...after having reworked the right and left side passes, he wanted to add something where the follow signals an apparent hijack to something spontaneous (pro used example of body ripple)...told pro 1) I can barely get through exactly what you want with pass; 2) I can't figure out how/where to add the hijack signal; 3) even if I managed #1 and #2, I'm not that quick to figure out what exactly to hijack too and by the time I figured it out the moment would be over; and 4) more or less, this is akin to patting your head and doing belly circles at the same time. Maybe with time I can put #1 and #2 together. No idea with #3, there's a good possibility I'll end up doing ochos or some other move that doesn't make sense with WCS.
 

Purr

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Both good suggestions. And that's the hijack signal I was shown. At this point, I'm a little mystified why I would want to hijack the dance - to do what, exactly??? Ronde and swivels? Some kind of ripple? A sit pose?
 
lessons going ok. Smooth pro is getting on my nerves - i have a limited amount of time and money, and it frustrates him that i can only take 1 or 2 lessons a week. I have goals, and not taking a ton of lessons every week makes it harder to reach those goals, but that's the way it is. i know it's coming from the right place - he wants to see me succeed and improve even more - but i'm going to have to remind him again that this is just the way it is.
 

MaggieMoves

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lessons going ok. Smooth pro is getting on my nerves - i have a limited amount of time and money, and it frustrates him that i can only take 1 or 2 lessons a week. I have goals, and not taking a ton of lessons every week makes it harder to reach those goals, but that's the way it is. i know it's coming from the right place - he wants to see me succeed and improve even more - but i'm going to have to remind him again that this is just the way it is.
Be careful with a pro like this. I've experienced it in the past and it can get uncomfortable. It's best to let it out now than to let it fester and rear it's ugly head after a few months... or years.
 
Be careful with a pro like this. I've experienced it in the past and it can get uncomfortable. It's best to let it out now than to let it fester and rear it's ugly head after a few months... or years.
Noted. What got uncomfortable? The pressure got too constant? I am pretty bloody vocal, so he'll hear it again tonight at my lesson. I mean, i get frustrated too - would love to take tons of lessons so that the things that keep reappearing in my dancing (right now, frame issues) get completely worked out, but, yo that is how life is.
 

MaggieMoves

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Noted. What got uncomfortable? The pressure got too constant? I am pretty bloody vocal, so he'll hear it again tonight at my lesson. I mean, i get frustrated too - would love to take tons of lessons so that the things that keep reappearing in my dancing (right now, frame issues) get completely worked out, but, yo that is how life is.
Ultimately what got uncomfortable was his constant pushing for more money from me, even after I told him a ramp up in lessons was only temporary until I find a new partner. When I got a new partner and I cut back on lessons, I got mind games from him which really irked me.

There were some other things that happened as well involving money and his mismanagement of it, especially in his bulk rate. He still owes me lessons and or cash from years ago.
 
There were some other things that happened as well involving money and his mismanagement of it, especially in his bulk rate. He still owes me lessons and or cash from years ago.
Well, that's awful! It is nowhere near that point, but it is good to be warned. Oddly enough, was talking about this pro with another student today- and then we came to the conclusion that he appears burnt out to us. Which makes it odd that he'd ask for more lessons, but I think it's coming from more of frustration at having to repeat things. Which teachers have to do. Unfortunately, at my studio and in my area, there is getting to be a shortage of good male pros. So, kinda stuck.
 

Dr Dance

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Has anyone else stumbled over moves that are similar, but slightly different? While taking a lesson to prepare a routine on American rumba, I was practicing the back spot turn with my social instructor. But (false) muscle memory crept in and I danced the footwork for a natural fleckerl instead. (It could have been an Argentine Cross or a natural top!) I know... different dances, yes. But strong muscle memory is still muscle memory. I have to over ride previous habits with reminders of specific moves for specific dances.
 
Has anyone else stumbled over moves that are similar, but slightly different? ... natural fleckerl instead.
Too funny. Yes. For me the swing pattern we call "Turn Rhythm" kicks in when I am supposed to be following a Natural Fleckerl and at 180 bpm there's no thinking involved just axial reflex. It seems to work ok, so far, at least socially. I do not have Fleckerls in my comp routines, so no worries, yet.
 

scullystwin42

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unexpectedly great coaching last week in smooth. Broke through a lot of the comfort zones that my pro has been trying to do - and that i didn't realize i was in - the outside person moving me around while i danced with pro helped so much. BUT there was an odd question that the coach asked - if my open waltz was a show dance...i didn't think much of it at the time, but after other related conversations with other students, i'm wondering if my choreography is not up to par - too simplistic? not enough content? He's been simplifying other students' routines - and i didn't think he was doing it to mine, but maybe i'm too in it to realize. it's been gnawing at me all weekend and i need to get to the studio and get it dealt with. can anyone recommend a good thread on choreo for opens and judges' perception of said choreo? i did a couple searches but couldn't find what i was looking for.
 
lessons going ok. Smooth pro is getting on my nerves - i have a limited amount of time and money, and it frustrates him that i can only take 1 or 2 lessons a week.
I have an opposite problem. No, the limited time and money part is the same, unfortunately.:) But it's becoming very difficult for me to get the lessons with my pro. And whenever regular one is cancelled (often by him), there is usually no chance of getting it moved to another day or time. Obviously, it frustrates me, as the dance lessons is something I'm very much looking forward to, not to say an addiction.
 

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