Ok... I can't listen, so I'll take your word for it. It seems a rather specific example of a limited use movement. If it's intended to be playful and the follower doesn't get it, well, dems the breaks. It's one move out of your whole tanda. Follower's aren't perfect either. It still seems to me you had to go to an extreme to find an example where collecting is a hindrance.
It's also totally unrelated to the follower's molinete or the leader's potential enrosque. I fear you and I have hijacked the thread rather badly, so we should get back to the topic.