Macho and cultural differences.

Hi Lily

I was reading the other day that SF has one of the largest populations of female leaders in the world. Is that true? How does it affect the dynamics of the dancing community?
I would say, our tango community is slightly on a leaders-heavy side in general, regardless of leaders' gender.
What do you mean by the dynamics? The community is very diverse and fast growing. Right now we have more than one milonga happening on any given night, so everybody can find his or her nich, more or less.
I do not lead in milongas btw, only in classes. Perhaps, one day.
 
I would say, our tango community is slightly on a leaders-heavy side in general, regardless of leaders' gender.
What do you mean by the dynamics? The community is very diverse and fast growing. Right now we have more than one milonga happening on any given night, so everybody can find his or her nich, more or less.
I do not lead in milongas btw, only in classes. Perhaps, one day.
Is this their inner "Nietzsche"? :cool: (God, I'm being a nerd this evening)

Ah OK it's similar to elsewhere. I just imagined that you would have milongas where many of the women asked each other to dance, and the men sat there, slightly bewildered :rolleyes:. Or something like that!

Do you get many men learning to follow in the classes?
 
Is this their inner "Nietzsche"? :cool: (God, I'm being a nerd this evening)

Ah OK it's similar to elsewhere. I just imagined that you would have milongas where many of the women asked each other to dance, and the men sat there, slightly bewildered :rolleyes:. Or something like that!

Do you get many men learning to follow in the classes?
We have some of the former (not much, although I have heard complaints from the gents that last night they wanted to dance with such and such lady, but alas, she was busy leading :) ) and a lot more of the latter.

My teacher leads all his male/leaders students in classes regularly. It is a part of the learning process. I have seen other instructors do that, too. In practicas, I see guys practice following all the time.
I haven't seen that many men come to a "regular" class with the sole purpose of learning the follower's role. However, I encountered quite a few men taking "follower tehcnique" classes and workshops.

We do have same-sex classes, classes directly advertized as "gay friendly", classes where people learn ways of switching lead and follow during one song. I do not take those, but from the videos I have seen, I might guess that is where you can meet more males who predominantly follow.
 
We have some of the former (not much, although I have heard complaints from the gents that last night they wanted to dance with such and such lady, but alas, she was busy leading :) ) and a lot more of the latter.

My teacher leads all his male/leaders students in classes regularly. It is a part of the learning process. I have seen other instructors do that, too. In practicas, I see guys practice following all the time.
I haven't seen that many men come to a "regular" class with the sole purpose of learning the follower's role. However, I encountered quite a few men taking "follower tehcnique" classes and workshops.

We do have same-sex classes, classes directly advertized as "gay friendly", classes where people learn ways of switching lead and follow during one song. I do not take those, but from the videos I have seen, I might guess that is where you can meet more males who predominantly follow.
Interesting :
- I'm pretty sure that in the UK most men wouldnt go near a "follower technique" class. It would be seen as "too gay".
- Ditto a male teacher leading male students : it would be seen as "a little peculiar" (though that could be because men rarely follow here, so havent got the first clue about what to do)
- Most men in my local group wont even swap roles in a class ..
 

bordertangoman

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Interesting :
- I'm pretty sure that in the UK most men wouldnt go near a "follower technique" class. It would be seen as "too gay".
- Ditto a male teacher leading male students : it would be seen as "a little peculiar" (though that could be because men rarely follow here, so havent got the first clue about what to do)
- Most men in my local group wont even swap roles in a class ..
Occasionally I follow because I think its a hoot; I've led and followed Korey Ireland, Mike from Cardiff and one of my local friends. Someone says as a teacher I should be wearing heel!; so if anyone has a size 7.5/8 Cifs they don't want ;)
 
And I read more and more material in books published decades ago, it becomes more and more obvious that there are many people who teach AT who are rank amteurs at teaching classes. They may be good at tango, but there's more to it than that.
Yup. Teaching requires a skill in good eyesight along with college degree in child psychology:D
 

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