Music For AT

opendoor

Well-Known Member
#2
Lovely music Albanaich, a real must-dance-to! And it is suitable for TA, too. The accordeon sounds a little bit like a bando, and the rhythm fits. I will rip it down as mp3 to my PC. Thanks !

-- by the way, how many people still speak or understand gaelic?
 
#3
#5
Depends how you define Gaelic, Scots Gaelic is under threat, maybe 100,000 speakers, Irish Gaelic holding its own with 300,000, but the strongest Gaelic language is Welsh, which is expanding rapidly.

http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6014088

All three languages share a similar musical and poetic tradition.

Albanaich, you're a fan of Karen Matheson as well? Ah a voice that's touched by God..

All three languages are increasingly being taught at primary school level (up to 11). But historically of the three only Welsh has remained a proper second language. The others tend to be spoken only in well defined areas of the country (the Western Isles in Scotland, the West Coast and parts of the South in Ireland).

I have studied Scots Gaelic and it is not an easy language to pick up. The grammar is difficult and the spelling is not at all intuitive. Still it is a beautiful language. Especially when sung by Karen Matheson :D
 
#6
So, have you considered doing some AT to it.

And it may surprise you to know that Karen Matheson, although very good, is not considered 'the best', mostly because she 'sings' and Scots/Irish Gaelic doesn't work that way.

I actually have never taken classes in Gaelic - though on occasions I've been surrounded by it, as in being very much in the English speaking minority.

There's a whole lot of Gaelic thinking you have to understand before you can get to grips with the language.

My mother was a Welsh speaker, my child minder German. I'm competent in German and can think in German. Welsh is beyond me.

Always wanted to be fluent in Anglo Saxon - but could never find a teacher :)

And you must surely have figured things out with a forum name of 'Albanaich'

Christine Primrose is the definative Scots Gaelic orator, (singer is not the right word) amongst the Gaelic community, but she's largely unknown outside the Gaeltacht.
 

Lui

Active Member
#7
It’s beautiful music and it does challenge to dance – just not to tango for me. In my book, Tango is a very grounded music with a streak of sadness, determination and drama. When I hear this airy music, I see something different in my mind: Fairies gracefully jumping a lively dance on a sunny glade. Ok in my case I would be more leprechauns or maybe I can qualify as a hobbit.
 
#11
Well I wouldnt quibble about it - Karen Matheson's "one of the best", alright. There are in fact a number of "Gaelic singing babes" - Julie Fowlis, Kathleen MacInnes, that hottie from Altan. I wouldnt say no to any of them :p

It was interesting in studying the Gaelic how much modern "Scots" dialect owes to it. So being able to think in "Scots" would certainly help!

No I havent found anything so far that I would say was AT-"able". Most Gaelic songs tend to fall into one of two camps : "ballads" or "working songs". The "working" songs (eg songs women would sing while working cloth) have a stronger rhythm but its not the rhythm of tango.



ps There was a famous documentary a couple of years back, "No Bearla" , about how poor knowledge of Irish is in Ireland. Its quite fun - the guy goes in to a shop to try to buy condoms in Irish, for instance. I would post a link but its completely in Irish! Havent found a clip with subtitles yet.
 
#12
What happens if you are in Gaelic speaking community is that they customarily speak English with Gaelic syntax and grammar - and you get some unusual sentence constructions.

'It is to the party you will be going' - isn't English :)

Also gaels have a fascination for word games, and continuely play with words to make new and striking images - they do it in English as well.

I've picked up a few English gaelic phrases, one interesting one that apparently just 'jumps out' at Gaels is 'You're as kind as the segulls' Its apparently a very clever pun in Scots gaelic on the word oir which implies that you're being offered a bribe.
 

opendoor

Well-Known Member
#13
Another question Albanaich, can gaelic speaking people from Scotland, Wales and Ireland understand each other? And, are there still manx speaking people?

wr OD
 
#14
Scots Gaelic and Irish Gaelic are mutually comprehensiable, in same way that folks for Hamburg are supposed to be able to understand folks from Bavaria:)

Welsh is completely different, but related language - more like the relationship between English and German.

Welsh and Breton share a similar relationship to each other to Scots and Irish Gaelic

I had to look up the details of Manx - there are still 54 people who use it as there first language. . . .

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_language
 

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